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Post by rick on Jul 18, 2019 22:34:37 GMT -5
eddie — I’m sorry you’re upset. I will say a few things. There have been the 2017 and 2018 Kennedy Center Honors held since Trump has been in office. In 2017, at least two of the five honorees — Norman Lear and Carmen Lalavallade — said they would not attend if Trump showed up. See this article where even Gloria Estefan said she was glad that Trump didn’t attend — www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2017/12/04/no-trumps-no-problems-2017-kennedy-center-honors/918238001/ Last year, Cher was concerned that she might not be able to attend if Trump attended. It was announced that neither Donald or Melania Trump would be there so honorees like Cher and Lin-Manuel Miranda showed up. Eddie, I don’t know what your feelings are about Cher. But Cher has never been a fan of Trump’s. You certainly are a fan of Linda’s. To know Linda, as you do, is to know her political views. She is a citizen with a right to her opinions. She’s not shy about speaking her mind. You know this about Linda. It shouldn’t be a surprise to people that Linda had her say. We have covered this ground on this board before. Stephen Sondheim refused to accept the Kennedy Center Honor during George H. W. Bush’s presidency. When Clinton became president, The Kennedy Center awarded it to Sondheim and he accepted. Follow the women of song — Cher, Barbra Streisand, Bette Midler — all are very outspoken progressives. Again, no news there. I think Trump is a whole different case. Streisand was awarded her Kennedy Center Honor during George W. Bush’s presidency, but she accepted, she said, in the interest of showing bipartisanship and graciously took photos with W. Without this descending into “War Room” topics, Eddie, please let me say that I do have Republican friends and they are embarrassed by Trump. All that said, Linda has a right to speak her mind AS OTHERS RECEIVING THIS HONOR HAVE DONE BEFORE HER.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 18, 2019 22:39:56 GMT -5
Slamming Trump Re; this is mixing politics with the Arts and she has plenty of forums to slam him and I don't care if she dislikes him. That is her opinion and is entitled to. One of the women involved in this whole stupid thing and yes I don't agree with Trump by far on everything (Again, I believe that there should be no parties)actually said the first day she was in Congress and I paraphrase "We going to bring that mfer down." I actually thought that would qualify for censure. I believe in sticking with the facts and presenting one's own position as factually and respectfully as possible. I absolutely believe that both sides are acting ridiculous at times. Trump was completely maligned at the beginning (and still is) because Hillary and many others thought no way he was going to win. It is not racist imo (Cortez is Hispanic to my knowledge and that is not a race) but based on the fact they disrespected him. He is equal opportunity that way and that is not racist. That card keeps being pushed as fact. In general, when something is said enough in public it becomes like fact when it is not. There is actually too much information out there it is hard to tell truth from lies. This racist card is advantageous for the opposition (never know there may be more than one) as the mixtures of races in the population is greater than ever and rich white men are being ridiculed. So if Trump is portrayed as a racist, the strategy would be to get the votes of various racial backgrounds. The group went too far and Trump is acknowledging that. Anyway, I have to try and get this bad taste out of my mouth. I want to be excited about the documentary and the Kennedy Honors. I am very much an inclusive moderate and had no problem with her expressing her views on immigration on her birthday. Productive debate is good. See I am absolutely for immigration but there are rules on the books of how it to be done. Obama used them and deported a lot of people for awhile early in his presidency. If laws are enacted and they are ignored or gone against by those in power without formally changing them that endangers our democracy. There is a whole world out there so for immigration to be fair there needs to be rules. How can this country possibly handle thousands upon thousands of people on a daily basis. There has to be some kind of order to end this chaos. It is not fair to those who abide by the rules and come to this land of milk and honey!!!! Nite All!!!! I truly hate controversy and I have an early morning eddiejinnj
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 18, 2019 22:50:31 GMT -5
Did anybody refuse to attend when Obama or Clinton were president? If not why? Could be that those people rose to the occasion as you said Streisand did. Were they able to be mature and separate this honor from other honors that may more directly go against their political beliefs. Based on what I read the mission of the awards is, I am not sure why this has become so poltical. It is not doing service to the awards or those who are nominated. I can see, maybe, the Medal of Arts Award there being a quote boycott by somebody since the President awards this. eddiejinnj Rick: Do you have Republican friends that like him? Are all those mentioned in the article Democrats?
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Post by erik on Jul 18, 2019 23:36:34 GMT -5
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Post by Vacation! on Jul 19, 2019 0:58:26 GMT -5
Did anybody refuse to attend when Obama or Clinton were president?
Neither Obama nor Clinton were as vile and disgusting as the whoremonger Trump, not nearly. And I had policy differences with both of them. And Clinton put the country through the wringer because he refused to acknowledge fellatio. Well truth be told we would have been through the ringer anyway as Ken Starr kept investigating for four years never finding a real crime so he at least came up with some illicit sex.
Yes, I have friends that are Republican, and we get along fine as long as they don't start up with any pro-Trump nonsense. There are three main types of people that are pro-Trump. Ignorant people. Stupid people. And vile people. Ignorant people who are uninformed and just don't realize the damage that is being done to the country that will take decades to fix. Stupid people who don't care about facts. And vile people who chant at his rallies.
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Post by the Scribe on Jul 19, 2019 1:32:26 GMT -5
The Kennedy Center Honors list just made the iheart radio news brief at the half and hour. Linda prominently mentioned.
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Post by Partridge on Jul 19, 2019 2:10:48 GMT -5
Here is an article from the Washington Post:
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Post by Dianna on Jul 19, 2019 2:24:43 GMT -5
Whoa.. I came on this thread literally eating popcorn... And A big CONGRATULATIONS TO LINDA.. A LONG TIME COMING.
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Post by the Scribe on Jul 19, 2019 2:48:32 GMT -5
Typically, the guests of honor are seated around the president and first lady. The article made it sound like the Trump's haven't decided yet. Not a good idea to sit them next to Linda lol. Best to have Big Bird sit between them.
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Post by Dianna on Jul 19, 2019 3:03:05 GMT -5
See Erik you would like to believe all that!!!!!! You made a big deal of Selena issue saying you I will not back down on this one. Well, I am not backing down. All people deserve respect and that starts with ourselves. Go blame EVERYTHING on your opposition; that will get you far in life. I have been very nice and respectful though I felt on eggshells that I couldn't be myself (just like what I suffered until I was 30 and finally had to come out) on a Linda Ronstadt discussion forum. I will continue to be inclusive and have friends of all ages, races, political and religious affiliations and try to do what I can to improve things not blame or criticize constantly to the point that this country gets nothing done because of divisiveness. It would not be hypocritical if Trump was there. If anything the event would show how important the Arts are. Another justification!!! Linda is not accepting the award from him. eddiejinnj Eddie, I don't think anyone is being non inclusive here.... Okay, if you want to throw that word around and hold others to that standard, please take a look at trump who just last sunday on twitter told 4 of our congresswomen, who happen to be women of color, to"go back to their own country," 3 were born here and 1 is a naturalized citizen. Eddie, this is frightening for many people. Because a person has opposing views does not mean they do not love this country.. Trump has been bad mouthing our country since President Obama was in office, talk about being non inclusive. Even his inaugural speech, as George W. Bush put it "that was some weird shit." lol... spoke in very dark sentences and bashed our country, instead of being uplifting and positive. I'm sorry Eddie.. I agree with the vacation poster, trump is vile and disgusting, and I've never said this about any other American President.. Ever.
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Post by rick on Jul 19, 2019 3:12:47 GMT -5
Typically, the guests of honor are seated around the president and first lady. The article made it sound like the Trump's haven't decided yet. Not a good idea to sit them next to Linda lol. Best to have Big Bird sit between them.
Rob — The first year of Trump’s presidency, 2017, there was more drama surrounding whether they would show up, but eventually, I believe, The Kennedy Center appealed to the Trumps not to attend. For his second year, 2018, my memory is that after some trepidation by Cher, it was announced that yet again Donald and Melania would not attend. I hope and pray that it will be the same 3 years in a row.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 19, 2019 7:14:36 GMT -5
Those that have responded are still not getting the point. I am separating out the event vs people's feelings re: the president in general. This is not a political event and re: Clinton and Obama I never hoped that either of them would not be there and whether they had the right (of course they did). That is Maturity!!!! All that results in, imo, is that these boycotters influence who is nominated because of fear of the nominee not accepting for political reasons. The smart thing to do is for the winners in their acceptance speech to discuss how important the Arts were for them and in general and I agree. When I was in HS we didn't have a big Arts programs that I recall. My school was a big football school and I could care less about football (I was listening to Linda Ronstadt records and defending her). There should balance between the two. I really was teased and shamed for liking her. For this event, which is such an Honor, should not each year be bogged down with who is accepting noms or not for political reasons. This has gone on too long. Again, my people, if I am allowed to call you that, I am just talking the Kennedy Center Honors. If honorees can't sit in their seats and enjoy the show no matter whom they are sitting next to or near because not everyone can sit rt next to them for a couple hours what does that say - IMMATURITY. Diva behavior to me!!!!!! To address Dianna the main point I am saying is that people can have opposing opinions and still act like civilized people and that starts with each of us. Obviously, I am very tolerant of opposing views as I have been a member of this forum for 15 yrs and based on the posts (factual observation in writing) there is nothing but opposing views politically. I just focus on the multi-faceted career of Linda Ronstadt who has taught me much about different forms of music. I truly wish y'all PEACE!!!! eddiejinnj
PS: I love the vintage clothes in the picture of Sesame Street. I look for them in shops. My partner says I look great in them as I am thin and muscular. If one does believe that vacation is inclusive then all I say is WOW!!!!!
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 19, 2019 8:50:48 GMT -5
I was just in shower and was laughing to myself that I guess I took Marlo's "Free to Be You and Me" too much to heart. It really does hurt me; I really just want everyone to get along. I did have Music class in the grammar school I went to. Loved it!!!! We sang that and I remember singing "Ben". I still know the words by heart!!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by the Scribe on Jul 19, 2019 12:04:08 GMT -5
President Trump's proposed budget calls for big cuts in a wide array of domestic programs — among them, agencies that fund the arts, humanities and public media. Funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting would be cut to zero under the proposal, and the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities would be eliminated entirely, the first time any president has proposed such a measure. I was just in shower and was laughing to myself that I guess I took Marlo's "Free to Be You and Me" too much to heart. It really does hurt me; I really just want everyone to get along. I did have Music class in the grammar school I went to. Loved it!!!! We sang that and I remember singing "Ben". I still know the words by heart!!!! eddiejinnj Sorry Eddie but shut up and sing is no longer a viable concept outside of conservative circles. Trump has declared war on the arts by trying to obliviate them and has made this event (and others) political and personal to everyone in that genre and beyond.(not the other way around) We went through this conservative "shut up and sing" scenario before. You are not the victim. The arts, artists and most Americans are. If you want everyone to get along you might want to start with conservative media intent on dividing the country and denigrating the arts on a daily basis. Candidate Trump joined them and attacked corporate media long before they fought back. And just for the record, Free to Be faced backlash from conservative leaders, including Evangelical author and psychologist James Dobson at the time it was released. It was an attack on women and feminism. Had it been up to them that project would never exist. I do not think it is fair to expect one side to shut up while the other is involved in attacking them and their very existence.
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Post by Dianna on Jul 19, 2019 12:16:55 GMT -5
Those that have responded are still not getting the point. I am separating out the event vs people's feelings re: the president in general. This is not a political event and re: Clinton and Obama I never hoped that either of them would not be there and whether they had the right (of course they did). That is Maturity!!!! All that results in, imo, is that these boycotters influence who is nominated because of fear of the nominee not accepting for political reasons. The smart thing to do is for the winners in their acceptance speech to discuss how important the Arts were for them and in general and I agree. When I was in HS we didn't have a big Arts programs that I recall. My school was a big football school and I could care less about football (I was listening to Linda Ronstadt records and defending her). There should balance between the two. I really was teased and shamed for liking her. For this event, which is such an Honor, should not each year be bogged down with who is accepting noms or not for political reasons. This has gone on too long. Again, my people, if I am allowed to call you that, I am just talking the Kennedy Center Honors. If honorees can't sit in their seats and enjoy the show no matter whom they are sitting next to or near because not everyone can sit rt next to them for a couple hours what does that say - IMMATURITY. Diva behavior to me!!!!!! To address Dianna the main point I am saying is that people can have opposing opinions and still act like civilized people and that starts with each of us. Obviously, I am very tolerant of opposing views as I have been a member of this forum for 15 yrs and based on the posts (factual observation in writing) there is nothing but opposing views politically. I just focus on the multi-faceted career of Linda Ronstadt who has taught me much about different forms of music. I truly wish y'all PEACE!!!! eddiejinnj PS: I love the vintage clothes in the picture of Sesame Street. I look for them in shops. My partner says I look great in them as I am thin and muscular. If one does believe that vacation is inclusive then all I say is WOW!!!!! Eddie, let me ask you a question? If you see bullying or a crime happening.. would you just stand there - ignore it and pretend it isn't happening or speak up? This is how many view what's happening right now.. we are under crisis and many are enabling him. Or being complicit..Maybe you don't see it that way, but many others do. Again, I don't think with past Presidents, despite their faults and or policies we have ever seen anything like this. Has there ever been another president in our lifetime who has been so divisive, racist, bigoted, misogynistic and a proven liar? Allowing his crowd to chant "send her back?" I'm not going to list all the horrible things this person has said and done.... (it isnt normal Eddie)I'm not saying you don't have one, because you sound like a very nice person and have been through a lot, but anyone with a heart,soul and a decent amount of compassion can not NOT protest this behavior by a one donald j. trump and pretend it doesn;t exist because if so then one would assume he or she supports it.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 19, 2019 15:28:41 GMT -5
You don't get it. I am talking about the awards show and it being political when it should not be. So my answer is that this last few times it is because of Trump but this has been going on for awhile and only during Republican admins. Trump was not MY candidate for President. I think they all stunk on both sides. I didn't vote in the last NJ gubernatorial race, the first time that I recall since I turned 18. I disliked both major candidates that much. I truly wish I could have an honest conversation. Both sides are acting like children. I have not heard one word to that effect but Congress whether Dem or Rep or a mix and had a low approval rating for a long time. I really if I had the time would like to do a social psych study re: the increase in violence and hate in America despite major advances in civil rights. You can't talk to anybody who has kids to compliment them without being made to feel that you are a predator. Unprecedented quantities of sexual abuse cases in Hollywood, politics including Franken there are Rep ones too just not thinking, the school systems, religious figures. Road rage. School shootings (kids are just as wounded psychologically in school to do such things), police issues. There is disrespect for authority whether it be teachers, police, parents etc. The upcoming generations are growing up with unrealistic entitlements. Hopefully moderates all over America (I am a moderate that is personally fiscally conservative) will make some sense of this. I probably agree with most things moderates on both sides believe. Not everything but most. Now I can't, again, even be who I am for fear of repercussions like what Kanye went through. It's cool, though, I persevere. Boundaries in life no longer exist. I have operated my life with an extremely high bar morally and ethically. I used to write to the editorials when I was 11 yrs old. People need to have a basic sense of decorum and remember we are all human. I am still trying to wrap my mind and resolve that fact that if I was in the audience with Linda or performing for her, or in the audience of one of her concerts I would compromise her enjoyment (it makes sense across the board that she must wonder who is in her audience as well as those other listed circumstances). That is the personal dilemma I am in. I have stuck up for her. My stepmother used to call her nasal. So I was a gay kid ridiculed and called a fag (it always surprises my partner I was as I am pretty manny, lol) and I was uncool because I loved Linda. It feels like a waste of 43 years for me!!!!I truly am grieving Linda right now!!!!! eddiejinnj I cry uncle!!!!! I have to resolve in my mind my Linda dilemma.
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Post by Dianna on Jul 19, 2019 16:25:24 GMT -5
You don't get it. I am talking about the awards show and it being political when it should not be. So my answer is that this last few times it is because of Trump but this has been going on for awhile and only during Republican admins. Trump was not MY candidate for President. I think they all stunk on both sides. I didn't vote in the last NJ gubernatorial race, the first time that I recall since I turned 18. I disliked both major candidates that much. I truly wish I could have an honest conversation. Both sides are acting like children. I have not heard one word to that effect but Congress whether Dem or Rep or a mix and had a low approval rating for a long time. I really if I had the time would like to do a social psych study re: the increase in violence and hate in America despite major advances in civil rights. You can't talk to anybody who has kids to compliment them without being made to feel that you are a predator. Unprecedented quantities of sexual abuse cases in Hollywood, politics including Franken there are Rep ones too just not thinking, the school systems, religious figures. Road rage. School shootings (kids are just as wounded psychologically in school to do such things), police issues. There is disrespect for authority whether it be teachers, police, parents etc. The upcoming generations are growing up with unrealistic entitlements. Hopefully moderates all over America (I am a moderate that is personally fiscally conservative) will make some sense of this. I probably agree with most things moderates on both sides believe. Not everything but most. Now I can't, again, even be who I am for fear of repercussions like what Kanye went through. It's cool, though, I persevere. Boundaries in life no longer exist. I have operated my life with an extremely high bar morally and ethically. I used to write to the editorials when I was 11 yrs old. People need to have a basic sense of decorum and remember we are all human. I am still trying to wrap my mind and resolve that fact that if I was in the audience with Linda or performing for her, or in the audience of one of her concerts I would compromise her enjoyment (it makes sense across the board that she must wonder who is in her audience as well as those other listed circumstances). That is the personal dilemma I am in. I have stuck up for her. My stepmother used to call her nasal. So I was a gay kid ridiculed and called a fag (it always surprises my partner I was as I am pretty manny, lol) and I was uncool because I loved Linda. It feels like a waste of 43 years for me!!!!I truly am grieving Linda right now!!!!! eddiejinnj I cry uncle!!!!! I have to resolve in my mind my Linda dilemma. eddiejinnj Eddie, I get it...and there will always be protesting, no matter what. Most artists tend to be more liberal .. that's just the way it is.. there's nothing you or I can do about it..There are also artists on the right who have spoken up.. Reba, Clint Eastwood, Kelsey Grammer, Kidd Rock, Ted Nugent (who has been very outspoken on President Obama) Gloria Estefan, who has been very supported towards President Bush.. ect ect... As far as the increase of violence and hatred in America and civil rights.. Do you really think Trumps message of division and hating brown and black people who do not support him is helping or making things even worse? So lets do away with civil rights and while we're at it gay rights, women's rights ect ect. I don't have all the answers but I know going backwards is not it...... Eddie, do you really think Trump and his evangelical followers will fight for your rights as a gay man.. (or woman)? wow? You sound upset and IMO are blaming the wrong people... ..
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Post by germancanadian on Jul 19, 2019 16:41:12 GMT -5
Sally Field sure looks a lot like younger Linda in that photo.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 19, 2019 17:30:29 GMT -5
You can believe what you want re: Trump being racist for wanting to have orderly immigration. Believe me I don't agree with everything he says. The rhetoric on both sides is just too much!!! Immature. Orderly humane immigration I think makes sense. There are laws on the books. It is not fair for people who do the right thing and follow the process. I am for ALL human rights not just gay rights. Obama was forced to have an opinion when Biden made a statement re: Obama and gay rights marriage that Obama was not pleased that Biden put words in his mouth. See, I am a whole picture person and I am not just worried about myself re: our country's policies. Don't get me wrong I believe ALL humans have equal rights!!!! I am unselfish and look at the picture as a whole. I am a very unique person and I am not angry. I am grieving Linda's non-approval of me because I am Republican. I will say it AGAIN. I believe there should be no parties at all!!!! Dianna, you are being prejudice re: evangelicals. Sure some are judgmental but you are judging them as a whole group. Tons of people who are not religious are judgmental all the time. Being judgmental is not exclusive to one group. Come on!!!! I avoid blanket statements. They tend not to do justice to the subject matter. If you said Democrats and Jews you would be blasted like nobody's business. You are being judgmental. I am not an Evangelical but I am a Christian so you are insulting a sect of Christians. It would be like judging Hasidic Jews and say I am not insulting Jews. How dare you!!!!! This is a forum of about 20 regulars. No big deal!!!!! This group after all these years has like 20 regulars. It is kind of sad and probably another shame factor for me. I was teased big time liking Linda's music. I had a co-worker I was very close with and she said "Oh, Remake Ronstadt!!!! Of course, I stuck up for her. People can say including Linda that I didn't have to do it. eddiejinnj
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Post by Madlove80 on Jul 19, 2019 18:47:03 GMT -5
I am so happy for the greatest singer of my lifetime! I haven’t posted in a long time because I am not going to argue or defend my political views.But everyone must remember when Linda played in Sun City she said politics should be kept out of music and the arts. I wish she still felt that way now. Seen her in concert many times and didn’t like her comments on Republicans being in the audience but still love her anyways.
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Post by musedeva on Jul 19, 2019 18:58:47 GMT -5
Also David Geffen and some Eagles.....and of course her good buddy, Mr. J. Browne......
ConGRATULATIONS Miss Ronstadt WAAAAYYY over due...and now that the Orange Dream(NIGHTMARE)Cicle has so wonderously Gifted us with an Assured NON Appearance.....The Geniosity Generosity of Ms. Linda's appearance I'm sure will (Wo)Manifest!!! Yeah.....Pluto and Saturn are doing their thing and the Planets are Singing sweetly....enjoy your Pisces Moon Weekend folks!!!!
I am so excited. This is a great honor for an artist. This award is not given unless they are assured the honoree is there. If the honoree cannot be there they choose someone else. It has happened before. She’ll be there. The people who should do the tribute are Aaron Neville, Emmylou Harris, Dolly Parton and Ann Savoy.
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Post by Dianna on Jul 19, 2019 19:12:24 GMT -5
You can believe what you want re: Trump being racist for wanting to have orderly immigration. Believe me I don't agree with everything he says. The rhetoric on both sides is just too much!!! Immature. Orderly humane immigration I think makes sense. There are laws on the books. It is not fair for people who do the right thing and follow the process. I am for ALL human rights not just gay rights. Obama was forced to have an opinion when Biden made a statement re: Obama and gay rights marriage that Obama was not pleased that Biden put words in his mouth. See, I am a whole picture person and I am not just worried about myself re: our country's policies. Don't get me wrong I believe ALL humans have equal rights!!!! I am unselfish and look at the picture as a whole. I am a very unique person and I am not angry. I am grieving Linda's non-approval of me because I am Republican. I will say it AGAIN. I believe there should be no parties at all!!!! Dianna, you are being prejudice re: evangelicals. Sure some are judgmental but you are judging them as a whole group. Tons of people who are not religious are judgmental all the time. Being judgmental is not exclusive to one group. Come on!!!! I avoid blanket statements. They tend not to do justice to the subject matter. If you said Democrats and Jews you would be blasted like nobody's business. You are being judgmental. I am not an Evangelical but I am a Christian so you are insulting a sect of Christians. It would be like judging Hasidic Jews and say I am not insulting Jews. How dare you!!!!! This is a forum of about 20 regulars. No big deal!!!!! This group after all these years has like 20 regulars. It is kind of sad and probably another shame factor for me. I was teased big time liking Linda's music. I had a co-worker I was very close with and she said "Oh, Remake Ronstadt!!!! Of course, I stuck up for her. People can say including Linda that I didn't have to do it. eddiejinnj wow.. so now I'm the prejudice one. LMAO Boy, that's really twisting things. Eddie, do I have to remind you what many of the evangelicals have said about about gay people? Come, you're not that naive...and I'm not that stupid... And your Obama comparison is another false equivalency.. bottom line, President Obama is a supporter of gay marriage.. yes, there are laws on the books, but once again you are skimming over details. Nobody Ive heard has said they want open borders... BUT.. You CANNOT DEMONIZE an entire group of people.. you hate blanket statements.. what about Mexicans are Rapists and Murderers.. and some he assumes are good people. That my friend, is a blanket statement made by your lovely president... but I guess its okay, because it was said on your side of the isle. Boy we really are living in a trump parallel universe where up is down and wrong is right.. I am not insulting Christians who behave like Christians and if you follow that thing, I'm sorry you are not a Christian.. That's it I'm done.. I got to mow my yard.
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Post by Dianna on Jul 19, 2019 19:34:14 GMT -5
Oh and P.S. Regarding Trump and Christianity.. Trump is not of Christ Consciousness.. Anybody who spews such hateful rhetoric about Minorities and Women.. is a pathological liar, childish name calling loves money more than anything.. cheats on his wives with porn stars ect ect.. No siree, last time I checked Christ did not have that behavior.. If you want to compare.. Jimmy Carter is a fine example of a Christian.. he lives modestly doesn't brag and builds homes for needy people.. he walks the walk..
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Post by Partridge on Jul 19, 2019 20:22:56 GMT -5
You can believe what you want re: Trump being racist for wanting to have orderly immigration. I don't think Trump is racist for wanting orderly immigration. We already had orderly immigration. Trump wants zero immigration, zero asylum. I think he is making a big production to keep his base riled up.
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Post by Partridge on Jul 19, 2019 20:25:44 GMT -5
This is a forum of about 20 regulars. No big deal!!!!! This group after all these years has like 20 regulars. True that, but we have a couple hundred unique visitors every day. At least there is a forum here to share information. So many artists do not have that. Many times I have gone looking for a fan group of a particular artist to clear up questions from my inquiring mind, only to come up empty. Where are all the Bonnie Raitt fans? I have considered in the past changing the forum so that you were required to register to participate and not allow non-members to post messages, but this open format seems to have worked well for many years.
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Post by laurenm57 on Jul 19, 2019 21:40:49 GMT -5
I think we should smile and revel in the fact that the greatest singer is finally getting the recognition she deserves. I also think Jimmy Webb should be added to the list I posted before of people giving tribute to Linda.
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Post by Dianna on Jul 19, 2019 21:56:49 GMT -5
You can believe what you want re: Trump being racist for wanting to have orderly immigration. I don't think Trump is racist for wanting orderly immigration. We already had orderly immigration. Trump wants zero immigration, zero asylum. I think he is making a big production to keep his base riled up. Only if you're from Norway... Black or Brown people from S hole countries (his words) need not apply.
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Post by erik on Jul 19, 2019 22:19:51 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
Even more, Trump is basically encouraging his supporters to lash out against his (and their) opponents with actual physical violence. This is way beyond the pale...or at least it should be for anyone with an ounce of brains or conscience (IMHO).
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Post by the Scribe on Jul 19, 2019 23:59:21 GMT -5
I think George Bush changed her mind on that. Stolen election, immediate recession after giving the wealthy tax cuts, ignoring 9/11 warnings, 9/11 itself, attacking the wrong country and getting us into a protracted war, Katrina, another stolen election and then the worst economic crash since the first Republican caused Great Depression. I think those few things might turn anyone around.
Mammon. But I think we are all getting way off point on this thread. (including me)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 7:50:08 GMT -5
All the political opinions aside, this is sort of a golden age for Linda. When one considers the Hall of Fame inclusion, the Kennedy Honors and the new documentary, these are events that many people do not enjoy and certainly not during their lifetime. Linda is being given a lot of attention and respect and she's still around to enjoy it. A Linda fan really can't ask for more
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