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Post by goldie on Sept 9, 2016 1:13:54 GMT -5
3 more months and you could have had a baby
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Post by fabtastique on Sept 9, 2016 2:33:48 GMT -5
indeed!
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Post by the Scribe on Sept 9, 2016 17:18:20 GMT -5
TODAY'S RELEASESTHE COMPLETE TRIO COLLECTION
I love this GRAMMY BOUND album. Anyone here think there may be a possible single release or two?
Where Will The Words Come From, My Blue Tears, You Don't Knock, other unreleased titles?
A link to some snippets:
www.amazon.com/Complete-Trio-Collection-Deluxe/dp/B01CKE91QW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473460140&sr=8-1&keywords=trio VOTE FOR ANY 3 SONGSFARTHER ALONG MY DEAR COMPANIONSome of the full songs already available. I only included unreleased songs in the poll: I am not sure if All I Left Behind is Trio or even just Linda singing backup but I like it. Same with Last Cheater's Waltz. EMMYLOU HARRIS RARITIES TAKE FLIGHT ON SONGBIRD
www.emmylou.net/songbird.html
Through the '80s-an era of urban cowboys, mechanical bulls, and country-pop-Harris rose to become the authentic voice of country on such albums, which is highlighted on SONGBIRD's second disc. The disc kicks off with "The Sweetheart Of The Rodeo" from the semi-autobiographical concept album The Ballad Of Sally Rose (1984), which features the voices of Parton, Linda Ronstadt, Vince Gill and Gail Davies. Disc Two features tracks from At The Ryman, the live album Emmylou recorded at Nashville's "Church of Country Music" in the early 1990s when it actually risked demolition. The attention the album brought to the venue is credited largely as what saved the hall, and The Ryman Auditorium continues to be one of the country's premier concert venues.
Disc Three features the previously unissued gem "Palms Of Victory," which was recorded in 1978 with Dolly Parton and Linda Ronstadt, who were then calling themselves The Queenston Trio. This song is the first, original and unsweetened track from what would have been the first Trio album to ever see release, had they completed the project. Also included on this disc is a previously unissued outtake of the hymn "Softly And Tenderly" from the Trio II sessions. Of this song, Emmylou says, "I was grieved that this [song] didn't come out. I think the singing is exquisite. When Linda goes up in that modulation you realize all over again why she is maybe the greatest voice of our time.... and then of course Dolly was made to sing these old-timey songs...It was an unbelievable experience to hear those voices on the same song." NCCLeslie Emmylou Harris, Dolly Parton & Linda Ronstadt on choosing songs for "Trio" release
soundcloud.com/nccleslie/emmylou-harris-dolly-parton-linda-ronstadt-on-choosing-songs-for-trio-release
soundcloud.com/nccleslie/trio-linda-ronstadt-emmylou-harris-and-dolly-parton-talk-more-about-choosing-the-songs
Review
by Sarah Carson
Thirty years ago, after years of mutual admiration and thwarted plans to collaborate, three of America's biggest artists – Dolly Parton, Emmylou Harris and Linda Ronstadt – recorded their first album together, Trio. The women came from varied musical backgrounds - Appalachian “mountain music” for Dolly, folk for Emmylou and California rock for Linda - but the breathtaking, mellifluous harmonies and timeless natural sounds on the album, released in 1987, made it a worldwide success (and spawned a follow-up, Trio II, in 1999). In this marvellous film, the three women, their peers, and music industry experts reminisce.
Summary
How Dolly Parton, Linda Ronstadt and Emmylou Harris's careers took off in the 1970s with very distinct takes on country music, before they came together to collaborate on a successful album in 1987. The artists talk about uniting as harmony singers, focusing on how their alliance made them pioneers in bringing different music worlds together and raising the game for women in the country tradition.
Cast & Crew
Narrator KT Tunstall
Director Dione Newton
Executive Producer Mark Cooper
Producer Dione Newton Sisters In Country: Dolly, Linda And Emmylou Confirmed for BBC Four on 4 November at 10pm to 11pm
Friday 4 November
10.00pm-11.00pm
BBC FOUR
NEW
In this new one-hour BBC Four documentary, narrator KT Tunstall explores how Dolly Parton, Linda Ronstadt and Emmylou Harris’s careers took off in the 1970s.
Although they had very distinct takes on country, the three women ended up uniting as friends and close-harmony singers to record their 1987 album Trio, which helped launch the Mountain Music revival of the 90s and beyond.
Dolly, Linda and Emmylou were all born in the late 1940s and grew up in very different parts of the USA. In the mid-to-late 60s they launched their careers in Nashville, LA and Greenwich Village respectively.
If Dolly put a new spin on the old-fashioned country ‘girl’ singer by writing her own songs and proving sharper than the guys, Linda Ronstadt’s ear for classic country was part of her jukebox sensibility that made her the biggest female star on FM radio in mid-70s USA.
Meanwhile, folkie Emmylou learned about country from mentor Gram Parsons, and, after his early death in 1973, became a bandleader, country curator and revivalist in her own right. She recorded albums in California that placed Beatles’ songs alongside classic honky-tonk albums that could never have been made in the Nashville studio system, and which made her a star with the college crowd.
If Linda and Emmylou brought country to the kids who’d begun as Beatles’ fans, Dolly was country through and through - but somehow managed to transcend the country market. Dolly went to Hollywood claiming she’d taken country with her and became a global superstar with her 1980s hit Nine To Five. Linda continued to diversify as a song and genre interpreter, taking in new wave and the Great American Songbook, while Emmylou became the untarnished champion of many styles of country.
This is the story of Dolly, Linda and Emmylou’s friendship and musical sisterhood over several decades, how they united their different audiences and raised the game for women in the country tradition.
Pictured: Dolly Parton and Emmylou Harris
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Post by Richard W on Sept 9, 2016 17:34:26 GMT -5
Even Cowgirls Get the Blues would make a great single, with the ladies trading vocals on the verses. It still has a contemporary sound that could elbow some of the more vapid songs on country radio.
It was never released as a single from Emmylou's record, was it?
Am really loving the trio vocals on this one.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Sept 9, 2016 17:45:57 GMT -5
I was going to ask if this album would qualify for a Grammy award? I guess it would have to be a single to win? I don't want to assume lol eddiejinnj
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Post by the Scribe on Sept 9, 2016 17:55:26 GMT -5
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Post by erik on Sept 9, 2016 17:56:27 GMT -5
If I were a betting man (in which case I'd be broke!), I'd bet on "Are You Tired Of Me?" and "You Don't Knock".
You see why I've never been to Las Vegas (Lost Wages).
But I think the whole Trio collection, if it becomes a big success (which I think it will), will become so based on its merits as a complete collection. I just don't believe country radio will ever play any hits off of it because of the sexism that runs rampant on that format (Carrie Underwood and Miranda Lambert being the only gals getting regular airplay, most of the rest being ballcaps-worn-backwards "Bros"), and the ageism that has discriminated against older artists in country music since the advent of Garth Brooks/Garth Vader.
Certainly the reputations of all three women over the last fifty years will aid in making the collection one of the great ones of 2016 with both audiences and critics at large. But country radio airplay is out (IMHO).
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Post by the Scribe on Sept 9, 2016 18:04:05 GMT -5
I think this could start a trend towards quality in Country Music again. It could be successful on Country radio because of so many different reasons among them the sheer beauty of the music, 3 superstars, sympathy for Linda, this would be the last Trio album ever, revitalizing the industry if it sells well, its influence on younger musicians especially women singers, Christians, country baby boomers and long time fans of all three women singularly and collectively. This could surprise everyone and for the better.
This could be the exception Erik especially if stations begin getting requests galore.
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Post by TRIO FAN on Sept 9, 2016 18:12:20 GMT -5
Maybe Linda could get old friend George Lucas to help make some videos? I am sure he still cares for her and what else does he have to do lol.
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Post by erik on Sept 9, 2016 18:38:18 GMT -5
Quote by ronstadtfanaz:
The reason why I think it is unrealistic to expect this collection to spawn any hits is pretty basic: Radio stations, given that they are owned by big media conglomerates, don't give a damn anymore about what the listener wants. And even though there are likely to be radio station programmers who want to play tracks off of this collection, their bosses and the corporate honchos higher up on that food chain likely have a gun to their heads. The attitude of these people is twofold: If you are not on country radio, you don't exist; and that female artists (especially those over forty) are merely the "tomatoes", while the men (especially the "Bros") are the "salad" when it comes to getting airplay on the radio. Anyone who thinks this isn't the case hasn't been reading what I have read on the web over the last two years about the lack of women on country radio beyond Carrie Underwood and Miranda Lambert.
And in any case, this year, Chris Stapleton, with his album Traveler, has managed to sell tons of albums without much recourse to getting country radio airplay (they really don't play too much of his stuff, but he sells all the same). The same has held true in more modest form for honky-tonk/C&W-rock heroine Margo Price, whose album Midwest Farmer's Daughter has done exceptionally well absent anything off of it getting any airplay.
My point is that the Trio collection will indeed sell to all those aforementioned demographics, and be a critical, artistic, and commercial success--but it will do so not because of country radio, but in spite of it.
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Post by goldie on Sept 9, 2016 18:48:04 GMT -5
I'm glad you're not a betting man Erik.
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Post by erik on Sept 9, 2016 20:12:54 GMT -5
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Post by kgreen on Sept 9, 2016 20:56:31 GMT -5
Got mine. I have it on and the new disk is STUNNING! What a present from the Trio!!! I am thrilled.
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Post by kgreen on Sept 9, 2016 21:03:20 GMT -5
I think the album will be up for best historical/repackaged album of the year. I see several other nods as well. This is a stunning set....beyond my expectations...from the packaging to the beauty of the new music. I also checked one song from Trio II and the remastering is masterful. I will try to give a full review by the end of the weekend.....just wonderful.
"You Don't Knock" could easily be a single and country hit. A side of Emmy few have erer heard. Linda and Dolly are great as the Emmy-etts?
Lots of Linda Leads or major harmony parts!
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Post by kgreen on Sept 9, 2016 21:13:39 GMT -5
Three songs are not enough Rob! "You Don't Knock" is an obvious choice....love it. But all these new Linda leads are the potenially last we'll ever get....how can I not vote for them!
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Post by erik on Sept 9, 2016 21:19:28 GMT -5
Quote by goldie:
I am too.
The point of this is just that all three of them have managed to have successful careers with not only big hit singles, but also big hit albums. In fact, I would even argue that Linda herself, starting with Heart Like A Wheel, was the first female artist in any genre (country; pop, etc.) whose career is as defined by her albums as (if not more so than) her hit singles. I don't think they actually need any hits to come forth from this complete Trio collection for the thing to be a success.
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Post by the Scribe on Sept 9, 2016 23:45:56 GMT -5
My thinking is that if you can only vote for 3 it will give us a better idea of what the most popular songs would be for release. It is really a difficult choice because favorites change. I think you can go back and change your mind as I left it open until December 31.
I am hoping some of the lurkers may sign up and old friends from here show up to vote also as I am sure they too are Trio fans.
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Post by the Scribe on Sept 9, 2016 23:55:37 GMT -5
Harris, Parton and Ronstadt appeared as musical guests on the Tonight Show With Johnny Carson. Parton was a favorite (and her voluptuous figure a favorite target) of the late-night host, so the appearance was hardly unexpected. What was surprising – and yet certainly appropriate – was that the ladies were given three performance slots – and some valuable couch time to gab with Carson. Opening with the lively "Those Memories of You," seen in the above clip, the entire performance was backed by an ace band which included Mark O'Connor on fiddle, Herb Pedersen and John Starling on guitars, Steve Fishell on Dobro, Leland Sklar on bass and Russ Kunkel on drums. "To Know Him Is to Love Him" followed and after chatting with Carson, the trio and musicians returned to the stage for "Hobo's Meditation," with lead vocals from Ronstadt.
It's a bit irksome s/he forgot to mention Linda's cousin David Lindley in the band. David is one of the best musicians of all time and his work with Jackson Browne is legendary.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Sept 10, 2016 17:40:11 GMT -5
I was just thinking that the other day that Emmy had quite a number of trio songs that isn't in this collection. Is it because they of course had to include the 2 trio albums and the rest which is 20 songs that never saw the light of day except Cowgirls and Mr. Sandman? So as i'm thinking this through as I'm typing that reason doesn't make sense. It should have probably been titled "The Ultimate Trio Collection." Any thoughts? eddiejinnj
PS: I wanted to ask the group did Dolly put any of the Trio songs on any of her albums?
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Post by the Scribe on Sept 10, 2016 18:51:34 GMT -5
I was just thinking that the other day that Emmy had quite a number of trio songs that isn't in this collection. Is it because they of course had to include the 2 trio albums and the rest which is 20 songs that never saw the light of day except Cowgirls and Mr. Sandman? So as i'm thinking this through as I'm typing that reason doesn't make sense. It should have probably been titled "The Ultimate Trio Collection." Any thoughts? eddiejinnj PS: I wanted to ask the group did Dolly put any of the Trio songs on any of her albums? Ultimate is a better title.
I was thinking Dolly did her own version of After The Goldrush but then I wasn't sure so I looked it up.
The song has been covered numerous times. In 1973, it was interpreted by Prelude, whose version was a top 40 hit all over the globe, especially the United Kingdom where it re-charted in the Top 40 in 1982. Other versions have been performed by artists such as Thom Yorke, k.d. lang, The Flaming Lips, The King's Singers, Michael Hedges, Nena, and Natalie Merchant. Linda Ronstadt, Dolly Parton, and Emmylou Harris included it on their smash Trio II album in 1999 and were awarded a Grammy for their version. (Parton also released a solo version of the song in 1996, though her version altered the line "I felt like getting high" to "I felt like I could cry" with the permission of Neil Young.) During Radiohead's 2003 World Tour and 2012 Coachella Festival performance, Thom Yorke occasionally played this song solo, usually segueing into "Everything in Its Right Place." Patti Smith included it on her 2012 album, Banga. The song has also been covered in live shows by Tori Amos, Dave Matthews, Neil Finn during Crowded House's 2007 tour of the United States, and by Nana Mouskouri during her 1970s BBC show.
Dolly Parton once commented about the making of her version of the song: "When we were doing the Trio album, I asked Linda and Emmy what it meant, and they didn't know. So we called Neil Young, and he didn't know. We asked him, flat out, what it meant, and he said, 'Hell, I don't know. I just wrote it. It just depends on what I was taking at the time. I guess every verse has something different I'd taken.'"[2] The Trio version of the song was also released as a single, and while it received modest radio airplay, a video accompanying the song was very popular on a number of cable video outlets, including CMT.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Sept 11, 2016 7:42:20 GMT -5
Did Dolly do what Linda did and reworked the song not as a trio song? I am so glad she did that though Valerie's vocals are as or more dominant as Linda's (nothing against Valerie and to be honest their two voices I think went together better). The Trio probably picked Dolly on lead as it had a ethereal kind of feel to it and Dolly's voice went with that theme. After listening to the provided video above (thanks for posting) she reworked it so I wouldn't consider that a Trio song she put on her album. Her inspiration, imo, was of course Trio related re: recording a solo version. eddiejinnj
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Post by the Scribe on Sept 11, 2016 12:57:12 GMT -5
Did Dolly do what Linda did and reworked the song not as a trio song? I am so glad she did that though Valerie's vocals are as or more dominant as Linda's (nothing against Valerie and to be honest their two voices I think went together better). The Trio probably picked Dolly on lead as it had a ethereal kind of feel to it and Dolly's voice went with that theme. After listening to the provided video above (thanks for posting) she reworked it so I wouldn't consider that a Trio song she put on her album. Her inspiration, imo, was of course Trio related re: recording a solo version. eddiejinnj Valerie's voice is quite ethereal as well. Here is Linda's reworked version after replacing Dolly with Valerie. I was surprised how many people recorded it until I pulled up the Wiki page. I first heard it when Prelude had their hit.
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Post by Vox Populi on Sept 11, 2016 13:45:02 GMT -5
Did Dolly do what Linda did and reworked the song not as a trio song? I am so glad she did that though Valerie's vocals are as or more dominant as Linda's (nothing against Valerie and to be honest their two voices I think went together better). The Trio probably picked Dolly on lead as it had a ethereal kind of feel to it and Dolly's voice went with that theme. After listening to the provided video above (thanks for posting) she reworked it so I wouldn't consider that a Trio song she put on her album. Her inspiration, imo, was of course Trio related re: recording a solo version. eddiejinnj Dolly's version of AFTER THE GOLD RUSH was recorded on the next album she released after the original 1995 release date of TRIO II was aborted. That was a showcase song for her on TRIO II- it was Dolly's idea to include that song. In hindsight, I am glad that TRIO II had problems and that it ended up being a solo Linda Ronstadt album (Feels Like Home). We might never have gotten THE WAITING, Linda's version of AFTER THE GOLD RUSH, and all the other great songs on FEELS LIKE HOME. I find it odd that when TRIO II fell apart, Dolly already had a solo album in the can ready to go. The release date for the COMPLETE TRIO has been known for month, and again Dolly chose to put out a solo album during the same release window. It's almost like she is trying to draw attention away from this new Trio set, which is a shame because Dolly really shines on the entire project. A natural sales outlet for this type of music is Cracker Barrel. I ate there Friday, and Dolly's solo album is available there in a special edition. This is a big missed sales opportunity if they don't market this set at Cracker Barrel.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Sept 11, 2016 19:04:51 GMT -5
I just think Dolly's voice has a stronger affection to it. The arrangement including the glass armonica in the trio and Linda's version also makes the song ethereal. Dolly's solo version has a different arrangement to be honest I don't like as much and not quite as true to the original. eddiejinnj
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Post by memac62 on Sept 16, 2016 12:43:40 GMT -5
The Complete Trio Collection debuts at number 1 on the UK Country Compilation chart. The Farther Along lp is at 14 on the chart.
Number 47 on the UK top 100 albums chart.
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Post by fabtastique on Sept 16, 2016 13:04:42 GMT -5
Yes, perfect news!
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Post by TRIO FAN on Sept 20, 2016 16:42:27 GMT -5
Now that we know Trio is doing well on many charts is there any word of a "SINGLE" release?
Any ideas on which song, if any would be released as the first single?
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Post by WOW on Sept 20, 2016 16:52:55 GMT -5
NOW THIS IS WHAT I CALL MUSIC. GREAT MUSIC!!
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Post by erik on Sept 20, 2016 17:58:01 GMT -5
Quote by TRIO FAN:
I'm not betting on any being released for the reasons I gave in my first post here: sexism and ageism with respect to country radio. I just don't see it happening. People may think I'm a "Debbie Downer" for saying that, but I don't make any apologies for it because both discriminatory practices exist in the country radio format.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Sept 21, 2016 5:24:30 GMT -5
Radio, to my knowledge, has always been about demographics. Quote pop radio generally has always been focused on the youth for singles and top 40 material. I just know for myself as I got older I bought less and less albums especially singles (not talking downloads which in a way makes every song a single but without the official release to radio stations etc). The business of business is business. Did I like much of what my mom (my dad I only remember liking "Me and Mrs Jones") listened to? No, especially if asked, etc. I did like some of it I realized later but I still never bought the music. I do agree that it does seem (and I say that that way as I have not done research) that radio is much more formatted than I remember but I also, too, remember when I listened to top 40 radio that there were always some songs played ad nauseum. eddiejinnj
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