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Post by jay15206 on Sept 30, 2014 8:16:06 GMT -5
me thinks there needs to be some moderating on this thread. maybe the posters can self-moderate. I do not think it a good idea to categorize people (am not even sure what a hipster is) is it a modern hippie or the baby boomer ones? the other term I won't even get into. eddiejinnj Hipsters are in their teens through their 30s. I do not mock them. I enjoy them. If you're a baby boomer, you're too old, but if you were a hippie when you were young, you'd likely be a hipster today. They wear extremely tight pants today, just as we wore bell-bottoms then. www.bananastravel.com/wtf-hipster/
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Post by Dianna on Sept 30, 2014 10:55:53 GMT -5
me thinks there needs to be some moderating on this thread. maybe the posters can self-moderate. I do not think it a good idea to categorize people (am not even sure what a hipster is) is it a modern hippie or the baby boomer ones? the other term I won't even get into. eddiejinnj Hipsters are in their teens through their 30s. I do not mock them. I enjoy them. If you're a baby boomer, you're too old, but if you were a hippie when you were young, you'd likely be a hipster today. They wear extremely tight pants today, just as we wore bell-bottoms then. www.bananastravel.com/wtf-hipster/ LIke this crazy clip here from the show portlandia, which is exaggerated . but hipsters do shop at vintage stores. like buffalo exchange.. I was gonna psst in funny youtubes thread.. but since we are discussing hipsters.. lol.. yep. I think most of us here are too old to be hipsters.
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Post by POP80 on Sept 30, 2014 11:27:43 GMT -5
Hipsters are in their teens through their 30s. I do not mock them. I enjoy them. If you're a baby boomer, you're too old, but if you were a hippie when you were young, you'd likely be a hipster today. They wear extremely tight pants today, just as we wore bell-bottoms then.
The term "hipster" goes back even further than than the hippie days, but I haven't seen too many folks from the Beat Generation (or young hipsters) hanging out at Starbucks. In NY, it's really a mixed bag and I find it a relaxing way to take a break from the everyday madness.
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Post by rick on Sept 30, 2014 13:04:34 GMT -5
Hipsters are in their teens through their 30s. I do not mock them. I enjoy them. If you're a baby boomer, you're too old, but if you were a hippie when you were young, you'd likely be a hipster today. They wear extremely tight pants today, just as we wore bell-bottoms then.
The term "hipster" goes back even further than than the hippie days, but I haven't seen too many folks from the Beat Generation (or young hipsters) hanging out at Starbucks. In NY, it's really a mixed bag and I find it a relaxing way to take a break from the everyday madness. I agree that most of us who post on here are probably too, ahem, "mature" for what is generally thought of as a "hipster." But I remember an episode of "Seinfeld" from the early 1990s and Elaine (Julia Louis-Dreyfus) was mad at Kramer (Michael Richards) and she called him a "hipster doofus." Kramer is older than I am. And I don't think it necessarily is tied in with skinny jeans. My nephew is in his late 20s and a hipster and he wears the pork pie hats and insists on only buying vinyl, etc. That said, I was in Starbucks yesterday and a Japanese-American couple in their 70s were in front of me in line and a businesswoman in a nice work suit was behind me. Maybe the one where Bradley goes is frequented by "hipsters" when he went by there and that was enough to turn him off. If Starbucks relied only on hipsters then they would not have as many stores and being everywhere as they are.
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Post by revin2go on Sept 30, 2014 14:48:39 GMT -5
I must confess it was a really bad Linda day for me at Starbucks. I'll start by saying I rarely go to Starbucks, but this particular day really grated my nerves. Perhaps it was because the phone woke me up during a sound sleep, the sun was a little too strong this morning and this unseasonable humidity for southern California has gotten to everybody, but it was just one irritating Linda song after another! I simply couldn't take it any longer and quietly told Linda to STFU. Forgive me, Linda. All my least favorite Linda songs came out to annoy me: CRY ME A RIVER, WHAT'LL I DO, Emmy's MR. SANDMAN, those God-awful Aaron Neville duets, HURT SO BAD...all songs were like nails on the chalkboard to me. Granted, I respect Linda for attempting those styles, but I can rarely stomach anything she did after GET CLOSER save a few goodies like ANYONE WHO HAD A HEART and a couple of the TRIO songs. I've tried, really tried to like Linda post 1982, but it has been a rough ride and emphasizes all the more that country-rock is really her forte. Give me Linda from 1967-1982 and I'm happy. God bless her for delving into those other styles, but today just hit me wrong. Has this happened to anyone else?
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Post by rick on Sept 30, 2014 15:35:16 GMT -5
Has this happened to anyone else? . No. Not for me. Linda herself has said that she was not, in her mind, the best singer, but she was the most diverse singer. I have been on this board a long time and have talked about how "Heart Like a Wheel" came out when I was finishing high school and able to drive -- able to drive myself to Linda's concerts at the then-Universal Amphitheatre. She might have a 10-day engagement, and I'd go three nights in just one engagement. I then followed Linda into the "Mad Love" era and loved that album. I then went to New York to see her in "Pirates," and then to see her on consecutive nights during her "Get Closer" tour. And then to New York for her first night singing the standards live with Nelson Riddle. And on and on and on. For me, it is about Linda's remarkable voice. The word that I associate most with Linda is integrity. She has integrity as an artist. And, in my opinion, whether she was singing standards or operetta or country-rock or canciones, she surrounded herself with the best people to make the music she wanted to make. And she's often spoken about how when she took on a new style or genre, she would (her term) "wood-shed" it. Meaning she took herself to the woodshed and with discipline worked on her craft seven hours a day. To me, Linda Ronstadt didn't do things half-assed. Rev, you are entitled to your opinion. You more than hinted that you sort of got out on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Personally, I celebrate Linda Ronstadt. All that she is.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Sept 30, 2014 16:37:18 GMT -5
well, Rev, "Hurt So Bad" was pre-1982. I would be in my glory if I walked into a Starbucks and all they played is Linda. eddiejinnj
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Post by timetraveler on Sept 30, 2014 17:17:54 GMT -5
Linda's great appeal is that over time she has had something for everyone but not everything for someone. Her Country Rock was superb as was her few Country Gospel songs. But her voice really flexed its muscles and shined on her Spanish music and on many from the Riddle era. As a lover of Pop music those duets with Aaron were some of her best on the charts. Mad Love was one of the best albums ever with Hurt So Bad sung like it was meant to be sung. (she has had so many monumental albums) She has always had difficulty finding songs that she liked so overall I think she did quite well.
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Post by erik on Sept 30, 2014 17:26:55 GMT -5
Quote by timetraveler:
Yes, but over time, those became virtually all any radio station, especially an Adult Contemporary one, would play of Linda's. Worst of all, it led to lot of people who should have known better being brainwashed into the notion that all Linda ever did was sing duets with Aaron Neville.
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Post by beatle on Sept 30, 2014 18:04:57 GMT -5
I am not sure what a hipster is either...at 58 I was too young for the hippie days..... .....but I used to have long hair down to my shoulders...now it is white and short.. .my son and his friends have names for all of their fathers..he informed me that mine was "The Acid King"...I went to the first Starbucks on the way home and it was right there waiting for me....a very nice package with nice pictures...some different ones...an odd collection of songs actually.
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Post by Richard W on Sept 30, 2014 18:20:21 GMT -5
Yep, it is an odd collection of songs, for the most part. But probably no odder than any compilation I'd come up with myself trying to impress someone with Linda's versatility. Then again, Linda was doing those sorts of stylistic mash-ups on her own albums decades ago.
As for hipsters, I confess I wouldn't know the difference between the two, wannabe or genuine.
All I know is that Starbucks is the only cafe in the neighborhood where I live, and I like to go there and drink 3 shots of espresso on ice while I write. And yes, I have an Apple laptop, so get off me!
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Post by POP80 on Sept 30, 2014 19:44:26 GMT -5
No matter what what mood I'm in, Linda could never wreck my day. That doesn't mean that I like all of her songs, but I always love her voice. Personally, I find the duets with Aaron Neville to be rather "schmaltzy" but I respect Linda's thoughtful choices in music on the whole. As others have said, I favor her earlier music from the 1970's and think Heart Like A Wheel is a gem. Linda's diversity allows for something for everyone, and that alone is a testament to her unique artistry.
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Post by 70smusicfan on Sept 30, 2014 20:44:23 GMT -5
5 hours ago revin2go said: Has this happened to anyone else?
I think I would have agreed 2-3 years ago, but as I've listened to more Linda in the past few years, I find that her voice has so much improved in the mid-1980s to early 2000s that I appreciate her later music even more than the 1970s stuff. Her 1970s style of country-rock music may be more appealing and approachable - and the music from my youth, but her voice in later years - that is what really impresses me and tips the balance.
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Post by moon on Sept 30, 2014 21:27:40 GMT -5
I was never a fan of Linda Ronstadt until she recorded Whats New. Her 70's music did nothing for me. My sister was a huge fan of hers in the 70'S and thought I was nuts for not liking her music. Then she recorded the Nelson Riddle music and I was totally blown away by her voice. Actually Pirates was a real eye opener too. Now I am a huge fan of everything she recorded. Yea, Linda has something for everyone!!!
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Post by revin2go on Oct 1, 2014 1:09:36 GMT -5
Well I finally figured out what was grating me. It's when Linda sings in minor keys and notes (A and B flat especially) and tries to make it sexy. Flat out doesn't work for me. When she sings in the standard notes (ABCDEFG) and sharp notes, it's beyond thrilling.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Oct 1, 2014 6:37:54 GMT -5
as far as airplay, yes, the Neville duets get played and mostly yng, when will I be loved, and different drum (though in recent years I finally have stopped hearing dd). lots of stations play only one or 2 songs by an artist ad nauseam. i say to any radio station play anything by linda; there's so much to pick from. eddiejinnj
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Post by markv on Oct 1, 2014 6:47:24 GMT -5
LINDA IS A GREAT SINGER.
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Post by POP80 on Oct 1, 2014 8:54:50 GMT -5
I was never a fan of Linda Ronstadt until she recorded Whats New. Her 70's music did nothing for me. My sister was a huge fan of hers in the 70'S and thought I was nuts for not liking her music. Then she recorded the Nelson Riddle music and I was totally blown away by her voice. Actually Pirates was a real eye opener too. Now I am a huge fan of everything she recorded. Yea, Linda has something for everyone!!!
Don't get me wrong--I think the Nelson Riddle recordings were fantastic! Linda's voice got stronger and richer as she matured, particularly after Pirates. The 70s music got me completely hooked and I've been a "Ronstadt Maniac" ever since.
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Post by Tony on Oct 1, 2014 10:02:02 GMT -5
I am not sure what a hipster is either...at 58 I was too young for the hippie days..... .....but I used to have long hair down to my shoulders...now it is white and short.. .my son and his friends have names for all of their fathers..he informed me that mine was "The Acid King"...I went to the first Starbucks on the way home and it was right there waiting for me....a very nice package with nice pictures...some different ones...an odd collection of songs actually.
Hey hipster! Where have you been so long?
I agree with you about the nice package... the way they textured the paper makes it feel like fine Corinthian leather (even though there's no such thing).
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Post by eddiejinnj on Oct 1, 2014 10:18:52 GMT -5
Tony, I can just hear you doing your best Ricardo Montalban impression "the fiiine Coriiinithian leather" (referring to his Chrysler commercials). eddiejinnj
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Post by Richard W on Oct 1, 2014 10:56:24 GMT -5
I noticed the feel of the paper, too, Tony. It has a curious drag on the finger.
No such thing as fine Corinthian leather? My innocense is gone...
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Post by Belle on Oct 1, 2014 18:02:42 GMT -5
I've gone to Starbucks twice lately here in "ultra-conservative" Lubbock Texas, and there were no Linda CD's on the rack, much less playing in the store. I'm guessing there won't be any time soon...
The clientele ranged from very young to very old... With all college age workers behind the counter.
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Post by erik on Oct 1, 2014 19:46:59 GMT -5
Quote b Belle:
Given that Linda covered three of hometown hero Buddy Holly's songs, I find that development rather depressing.
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Post by POP80 on Oct 1, 2014 19:59:17 GMT -5
Maybe if you ask for the CD, they will get it in that store. I only saw it on the shelf for a short time in NY, so I'm not sure how Starbucks is distributing this item.
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Post by rick on Oct 1, 2014 21:06:41 GMT -5
I've gone to Starbucks twice lately here in "ultra-conservative" Lubbock Texas, and there were no Linda CD's on the rack, much less playing in the store. I'm guessing there won't be any time soon
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Post by 70smusicfan on Oct 1, 2014 21:11:22 GMT -5
Rick - How do I post a picture? - I have one of Linda at a Lubbock Tornado Jam for Belle to see (same venue as her avatar).
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Post by 70smusicfan on Oct 1, 2014 21:17:00 GMT -5
Rick - Never mind, I figured it out - you can't use "Quick Post", just the regular "Reply" at the top right. Belle - I don't know if I have your picture of Linda at the Lubbock Tornado Jam, but I do have a cute one of Linda and her tambourine from the same venue...now if I can just figure out how to insert it.
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Post by Belle on Oct 2, 2014 2:08:50 GMT -5
Hey, you did it! That pic is cute with the tambourine around her neck. She is with Joe Ely there. I posted some Lubbock Tornado Jam pics on another thread, but only had ones with Jesse Taylor in them.
Thanks for sharing
Next time I go to Starbucks I will ask for one. Might as well add it to my collection.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Oct 2, 2014 6:22:51 GMT -5
love that avatar pic, Belle!!!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by eddiejinnj on Oct 7, 2014 7:36:57 GMT -5
anybody know where the album is on the billboard chart in its 3rd week? eddiejinnj
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