Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 16:59:51 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Biff McFly on Mar 18, 2022 18:34:39 GMT -5
I was referring strictly to the name Susan not being Biblical. In fact, I have only seen Gretchen referred to as Suzy.
|
|
|
Post by sliderocker on Mar 18, 2022 19:23:37 GMT -5
I said I was going to have the last word but I'm not going to make up my own list of maybes. Maybes don't add anything to the knowledge base. And I doubt we will ever find the path from Linda Ronstadt to Maria Linda Ronstadt to Linda Marie Ronstadt to Linda Maria Ronstadt or any other variations that have been used. And when I said we were both wrong, really we were all wrong. Even Linda. She answered that her birth certificate name was Linda Maria, so between Tony, Slide, and Linda, none of us know exactly what the hell we're talking about. So maybe the subject should be closed until someone comes up with actual data. I don't like to think of what I write as maybes, but as possible explanations that are my own personal opinions and that others may agree or disagree with me. True, none of us may know what the hell we are talking about, especially me. I'm not the most knowledgeable on Linda. Wish I could say I was, that I knew someone who was related to Linda or knew Linda. Maybe they would know the truth of the matter? But, I wouldn't want to bother Linda's family. For now, I will go with the information presented by Rob since it appears to be an official document of the state of Arizona. I'm still not sure why the state of Arizona's genealogy department could provide it, but the department of vital statistics could not. That doesn't make sense to me, but it's where we're at right now.
|
|
|
Post by sliderocker on Mar 18, 2022 19:38:52 GMT -5
Where's the Suzy, playground? On the joke scale of 1-10, this one is off the charts! Thanks for a great laugh today! I am still laughing.
|
|
|
Post by sliderocker on Mar 18, 2022 19:46:27 GMT -5
Susan is a derivative from Susanna or Suzanna, but Biff is right in that the Susan variation is not found in the Bible. Likewise, Linda's sister seemed to have been referred to as Suzy by her family and that's something now which only Gretchen's family, Michael's family and Linda and Peter (and their kids) may know the answer to. But, we all know Linda won't talk about her family or herself and the same is probably true of Gretchen's family, Peter's and Michael's families as well. Susan, who do you think you're foolin'? (nod to the Buckinghams hit from 1967.)
|
|
|
Post by rick on Mar 19, 2022 0:45:22 GMT -5
There might be a purpose to creating a formal Linda Ronstadt Fan Club. So, instead of mouse ears like they did in "The Mickey Mouse Club," would we all get an appropriately sized Cub Scout uniform if we are a member in good standing?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2022 9:54:47 GMT -5
There might be a purpose to creating a formal Linda Ronstadt Fan Club. So, instead of mouse ears like they did in "The Mickey Mouse Club," would we all get an appropriately sized Cub Scout uniform if we are a member in good standing? "Linda's Pack/Den". No shorts for me though, not worn any as overwear since school 46 years ago.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2022 9:59:38 GMT -5
I was referring strictly to the name Susan not being Biblical. In fact, I have only seen Gretchen referred to as Suzy. Gretchen was born in 1939. It was too Germanic a name to use in the WW2 era. Perhaps "Suzy" was chosen as being a much more home-friendly name....
|
|
|
Post by Partridge on Mar 24, 2022 0:13:10 GMT -5
Maybe she dealt with the Colonel. Not the Moph-eye-a. I have been a Dolly fan since she started her career when I was a teen. But I was always put off by her maudlin songs-- too many where people died tragic deaths, especially young girls. But Skeeter Davis recorded one of those maudlin songs, Down from Dover, and I loved her version. She was one of the first singers to recognize Dolly as a songwriter, having a hit in 1967 with an improved version of Dolly's Fuel to the Flame. Then later she recorded an entire album of Dolly songs, which unfortunately was released before I Will Always Love You was written. But I wanted to address sliderocker's contention that Dolly was mistaken about The King being interested in I Will Always Love You. Whose memory do we trust more, slide or Dolly? I am in the middle of a Dolly Parton documentary on Netflix and she is telling that story about her having to turn down The King wanting to record her signature song. She goes on to elaborate, saying that Priscilla told her than when she and Elvis left the courthouse following their divorce, that Elvis sang that song to her. The problem with the story is that Elvis and Priscilla divorced in 1973, and I Will Always Love You came out in 1974. As Dolly said, I think there's something fishy going on. Dolly's memory may be as bad as Linda's, or maybe she just has a better imagination.
|
|
|
Post by guest on Mar 24, 2022 6:09:15 GMT -5
I Will Always Love You was written and recorded in June of 1973 in the RCA studios and released in 1974 as a single. Elvis and Priscilla's divorce was in October of 1973. Being that RCA was his label isn't it possible that he had a preview of the song?
|
|
|
Post by eddiejinnj on Mar 24, 2022 7:56:18 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum, guest, and thanks for the input. It is easy to join the forum and it's fun. eddiejinfl
|
|
|
Post by eddiejinnj on Mar 24, 2022 8:02:44 GMT -5
I was in the Cub Scouts. It would be a hoot to put one on again. Imagine us all gathering in Cub Scout uniforms. Funny stuff. eddiejinfl
|
|
|
Post by PoP80 on Mar 24, 2022 8:29:13 GMT -5
I was in the Cub Scouts. It would be a hoot to put one on again. Imagine us all gathering in Cub Scout uniforms. Funny stuff. eddiejinfl Count me in!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2022 9:54:40 GMT -5
My jersey & cap were green I remember, black & blue scarf. Too small to fit me now.
|
|
|
Post by Partridge on Mar 24, 2022 16:20:33 GMT -5
I Will Always Love You was written and recorded in June of 1973 in the RCA studios and released in 1974 as a single. Elvis and Priscilla's divorce was in October of 1973. Being that RCA was his label isn't it possible that he had a preview of the song? Possible of course. It seems unlikely.
|
|
|
Post by prisonerindisguise on Jun 21, 2022 9:15:29 GMT -5
I thought this was pretty interesting. There's a Wikipedia page for Linda in Esperanto, which is a constructed (made up/invented) language and by far the most widely spoken constructed language. It seems pretty bare, but I don't know the language so I can't really fix it. If you use Google Chrome it should offer to translate the page for you. Here's a link: eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Ronstadt
|
|
|
Post by PoP80 on Jun 21, 2022 9:37:04 GMT -5
I thought this was pretty interesting. There's a Wikipedia page for Linda in Esperanto, which is a constructed (made up/invented) language and by far the most widely spoken constructed language. It seems pretty bare, but I don't know the language so I can't really fix it. If you use Google Chrome it should offer to translate the page for you. Here's a link: eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Ronstadt Linda Maria RONSTADT (Tucson, Arizono), la 15-an de julio 1946) estas usona kantistino, kiu trarompis en la 1970-aj jaroj per pop-influita kontreorokenrolo. Ronstadt gajnis 11 premiojn Grammy kaj ĉesis kanti post kiam ŝi estis diagnozita kun Parkinsona malsano.
Thanks for posting. I got this far with the translation... (Tucson, Arizona) born on July 15, 1946, is a singer, who broke through in 1970, with pop-influenced rock and roll. Ronstadt received 11 Grammy awards, and stopped singing when she was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease.
|
|
|
Post by sliderocker on Jun 21, 2022 21:29:18 GMT -5
I Will Always Love You was written and recorded in June of 1973 in the RCA studios and released in 1974 as a single. Elvis and Priscilla's divorce was in October of 1973. Being that RCA was his label isn't it possible that he had a preview of the song? Missed this, but regarding RCA sending this song to Elvis for his consideration: RCA would had to have sent the song to Elvis's manager, who would want part or all of the publishing of the song before the song would be submitted to Elvis. It's possible Dolly submitted I Will Always Love You, going by the proper channels to Colonel Parker (Andreas von Kujik) and Parker wanted part of the publishing on the song in exchange for Elvis's consideration to record the song. Parton refused and Elvis never received the demo. Elvis wanted to record Coat of Many Colors, per the late Marty Lacker, who was a member of Elvis's Memphis Mafia.Elvis identified with the song's lyrics. It's possible his manager also wanted part or all of the publishing on that song as well, but as this was 1971 or 1972, Parton would've been aware of Parker's hassling of music publishers and songwriters when she thought Elvis wanted to record I Will Always Love You. Elvis put an end to Parker's publishing hassles in the early 70s by telling Parker or his reps that if they could get part of the publishing, fine, but if they couldn't and he still wanted to record the song, he was still going to record the song. But, he wanted the publishing business concerns to not take place in the studio. Dolly may have submitted her song but it never got to Elvis because she wouldn't give Parker part of the publishing. And sadly, by the 70s, Elvis's publishing concerns in the 70s was all about getting a quarter of the publishing on a song already published. Original songs were still being submitted to Elvis's publishing companies but many of those songs never got to Elvis. Singer-guitarist Roy Wood of Wizzard submitted three songs to Elvis but he too fell afoul of Parker hassling him and his publisher over the publishing. Elvis never heard his songs either.
|
|