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Post by sliderocker on Jan 14, 2024 22:03:32 GMT -5
All I hope is that it is not one big chronological, career-spanning story with everything done in order. I think that could be a blah, predictable way forward. I think begin with her in a moment of triumph, presumably Canciónes, and then flash back to how it happened (which winds up getting everything you’d want touched upon along the way.) I think David O Russell is likely to do something more avant grade than a Spielberg would and that’s probably a good thing. It should be a work of art and I am confident it will be. I would prefer that it not be a work of art. Movies that are works of art don't usually do too well in the theaters. Works of art have a bad tendency to plod along, putting their audiences to sleep. I went to see Becket in the theater in the 60s. It was considered a work of art too. Put me to sleep faster than a Woody Allen movie. Theaters are dark places when a movie begins, and if a movie just moves too slow, it's going to lose the audience. They'll either walk out because it's too boring or they will do like me, just fall asleep. I don't want that to happen to a movie about Linda. As to the movie about Linda, it's not possible to do a movie about Linda and all of her life in a two hour time frame. Where do you begin? Where do you stop? What do you leave in, what do you leave out? If you cover Linda as a singer from 1967 to the end of her career in 2009, that's a 42 year time frame. Every scene likely could be no more than three minutes. Even if you broke it up by the decades, you're not going to have time to do everything that ever happened in Linda's life. A two and a half hour movie? Too long. Same for a three hour movie. What I believe would work is covering Linda's beginnings in the 60s and continuing on into the 70s when she becomes a superstar and then end there. You don't cover every decade because it's going to be too long and you're going to lose the audience when you do. You take some of the stories in Linda's book or from interviews and make them into movie scenes. Linda's career pre- Heart Like a Wheel is a more interesting period because it was a time when she was struggling and not having much in the way of hit singles and hit albums. She had reached a point in her life where she was almost ready to give up, go back home to Tucson and find a guy to get married to and have kids, and live that life instead. She soldiered on instead as a singer and didn't give up. Would she have given up if Heart Like a Wheel and its singles, You're No Good and When Will I Be Loved hadn't been the huge hits they were? Linda (Selena) breaking into You're No Good at one of her concerts would be a good ending point, do a freeze frame and roll the credits as the song plays over the credits. As the credits are rolling, they could add photos of Linda from all of her career. It goes without saying that a movie about Linda will include some poetic licensing about her career. A career that lasted 44 years basically in a movie is going to have conversations no one can remember, including Linda, so any dialog in the movie on Linda's early life or career is going to be poetic license. So are any scenes. With Linda's illness, it may not be possible for Linda to remember conversations from the 60s or 70s. Recall she thought she had never appeared with Neil Diamond, despite being a guest with him on the Glen Campbell Good Time Hour, in which she, Neil and Glen worked their way through some of Neil's songbook.If she could not remember that, what else might she not remember? But, yeah, I believe Linda's early career would make for the best movie about her life, though if they were to make it into a work of art, I think, would only doom the movie's chances.
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Post by Dianna on Jan 15, 2024 2:20:49 GMT -5
A successful biopic requires.. what's the word.. messiness... in its subject. Like Jim Morrison's drug problems. Or JFK trying to handle the Cuban missile crisis. Linda had a one in a million singing voice but she kept her personal life on lockdown. No scandals, no relationship drama. Everyone likes her. Her childhood was idyllic... you see where I'm going with this? I'm afraid to juice things up they'll do what they did with Bohemian Rhapsody and simply make stuff up. If Linda isn't truly going to unlock and give us much more of a sense of who she is through her private life, I think the biopic will not do anyone a service. Interesting you mention Jim Morrison as Linda wrote about him in her book. IMO, it would make for a funny scene, where a tired Linda blows off a plainly inebriated Morrison after he walks her home.. she signals to him she's going to sleep. Anyway, it was kind of funny in my head.. Not much drama in Linda's personal life or if there was we won't know about it lol.. but I would think since Linda is very passionate and outspoken about her beliefs and her politics I think there are some traumatic things she could touch on that she also wrote about in her book. Being of Mexican Heritage and of fair skin, Linda did not experience racism but she witnessed it first hand happening to others..She lived close to the Mexican border during the 1950's.. so she might use her experiences to contrast that not much has changed since then or if anything maybe it has gotten worse. I think the movie like the documentary will focus more on her singing career and the many different styles of music she chose to sing and how she was influenced..
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Post by MokyWI on Jan 15, 2024 6:58:19 GMT -5
All I hope is that it is not one big chronological, career-spanning story with everything done in order. I think that could be a blah, predictable way forward. I think begin with her in a moment of triumph, presumably Canciónes, and then flash back to how it happened (which winds up getting everything you’d want touched upon along the way.) I think David O Russell is likely to do something more avant grade than a Spielberg would and that’s probably a good thing. It should be a work of art and I am confident it will be. I would prefer that it not be a work of art. Movies that are works of art don't usually do too well in the theaters. Works of art have a bad tendency to plod along, putting their audiences to sleep. I went to see Becket in the theater in the 60s. It was considered a work of art too. Put me to sleep faster than a Woody Allen movie. Theaters are dark places when a movie begins, and if a movie just moves too slow, it's going to lose the audience. They'll either walk out because it's too boring or they will do like me, just fall asleep. I don't want that to happen to a movie about Linda. As to the movie about Linda, it's not possible to do a movie about Linda and all of her life in a two hour time frame. Where do you begin? Where do you stop? What do you leave in, what do you leave out? If you cover Linda as a singer from 1967 to the end of her career in 2009, that's a 42 year time frame. Every scene likely could be no more than three minutes. Even if you broke it up by the decades, you're not going to have time to do everything that ever happened in Linda's life. A two and a half hour movie? Too long. Same for a three hour movie. What I believe would work is covering Linda's beginnings in the 60s and continuing on into the 70s when she becomes a superstar and then end there. You don't cover every decade because it's going to be too long and you're going to lose the audience when you do. You take some of the stories in Linda's book or from interviews and make them into movie scenes. Linda's career pre- Heart Like a Wheel is a more interesting period because it was a time when she was struggling and not having much in the way of hit singles and hit albums. She had reached a point in her life where she was almost ready to give up, go back home to Tucson and find a guy to get married to and have kids, and live that life instead. She soldiered on instead as a singer and didn't give up. Would she have given up if Heart Like a Wheel and its singles, You're No Good and When Will I Be Loved hadn't been the huge hits they were? Linda (Selena) breaking into You're No Good at one of her concerts would be a good ending point, do a freeze frame and roll the credits as the song plays over the credits. As the credits are rolling, they could add photos of Linda from all of her career. It goes without saying that a movie about Linda will include some poetic licensing about her career. A career that lasted 44 years basically in a movie is going to have conversations no one can remember, including Linda, so any dialog in the movie on Linda's early life or career is going to be poetic license. So are any scenes. With Linda's illness, it may not be possible for Linda to remember conversations from the 60s or 70s. Recall she thought she had never appeared with Neil Diamond, despite being a guest with him on the Glen Campbell Good Time Hour, in which she, Neil and Glen worked their way through some of Neil's songbook.If she could not remember that, what else might she not remember? But, yeah, I believe Linda's early career would make for the best movie about her life, though if they were to make it into a work of art, I think, would only doom the movie's chances. Don’t agree as far as just covering her 70’s heyday. What makes her story so compelling is the guts she had to go where she was told not to and have the success she did with every new turn. Leave that out and you missed what makes Linda so unique. Leaving Riddle, and that first Mexican album out, no way!
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Post by rick on Jan 15, 2024 15:34:22 GMT -5
Don’t agree as far as just covering her 70’s heyday. What makes her story so compelling is the guts she had to go where she was told not to and have the success she did with every new turn. Leave that out and you missed what makes Linda so unique. Leaving Riddle, and that first Mexican album out, no way! I agree with Moky. I'm trying not to jump ahead of what this film might be, but being that Boylan and Keach are involved, I wonder if it will follow along the lines of the documentary and basically show Linda returning to pop music in a big way with the Aaron Neville work and then show her noticing something wrong with her voice and cut to a Selena Gomez made up to look older singing with her family before a meal after Linda received her diagnosis. In this way they omit all of the work/music/concerts Linda did in the 1990s and the 2000s because, sadly, a lot of the public doesn't know about "Winter Light," "Feels Like Home," "Western Wall," "Dedicated," etc. The documentary also didn't mention her two children, which I surmised was out of her concern for their privacy, but a biopic might bring up Linda deciding she wanted to become a mother. To be determined.
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Post by RobGNYC on Jan 15, 2024 16:49:26 GMT -5
My first thought was and still is “terrible idea.” I’ve been a die-hard fan for almost 50 years. I will never see this film. I can’t understand how Linda could approve it. Someone who is so private that she kept most of the personal stories out of her memoir. Now some screenwriter is going to make up dialogue and conversations and create drama to tell her story? I only hope that she gets script approval but that seems unlikely. Does the world need this? I don’t see the point. Let the documentary stand as her story on film. (I would also someday love to see an oral biography with the words of her family, friends, and colleagues.)
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 16, 2024 2:17:22 GMT -5
. Don’t agree as far as just covering her 70’s heyday. What makes her story so compelling is the guts she had to go where she was told not to and have the success she did with every new turn. Leave that out and you missed what makes Linda so unique. Leaving Riddle, and that first Mexican album out, no way! Realistically, a Linda biopic needs to be two movies at the minimum to cover all of Linda's musical life. Maybe even a three movie minimum, but a single movie isn't enough time to tell Linda's story. Will a single movie include her pre-fame life and post-musical career life? Or will it just cover her musical career, which one could argue we had with Still Within the Sound of My Voice. A single movie, to cover all musical eras, likely would be three hours long. You can't do justice to Linda or her music as a lot would either left out or truncated. A Linda bio-pic, I want done right. I want it to be autobiographical and I want the music to be treated with respect. I don't want to be listening to any of Linda's music in the movie, only to discover no song is more than a minute and a half in length. That's the risk with a single movie that's maybe two hours in length. The movie will be made and then we will be grumbling about how it didn't cover everything. Or we will complain about the poetic licensing, the imagined dialogues in the movie that will be written to move the movie along. I can't see a three hour long movie on Linda's life that covers everything. If the movie will cover everything, something will end up being left on the cutting room floor or saved as deleted scenes in the Bonus Features section for the DVD/Blu-Ray. The Elvis bio-pic from 2022 was 159 minutes long. It covered Elvis's musical career but a lot was left out and it was mostly a fictional movie, as far as reality is concerned. It wasn't a very honest movie and there were enough real events from Elvis's life that they could've put in the movie. And I'm betting what we will see in the movie on Linda will be mostly a fictional accounting as well, probably with a similar run time as the Elvis movie. And maybe a soundtrack that has most of the usual hits and maybe some rarities. With any luck, the music will be remastered and remixed, but I'm betting that like Simple Dreams, the movie will have some glaring omissions.
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Post by MokyWI on Jan 16, 2024 6:31:53 GMT -5
. Don’t agree as far as just covering her 70’s heyday. What makes her story so compelling is the guts she had to go where she was told not to and have the success she did with every new turn. Leave that out and you missed what makes Linda so unique. Leaving Riddle, and that first Mexican album out, no Realistically, a Linda biopic needs to be two movies at the minimum to cover all of Linda's musical life. Maybe even a three movie minimum, but a single movie isn't haenough time to tell Linda's story. Will a single movie include her pre-fame life and post-musical career life? Or will it just cover her musical career, which one could argue we had with Still Within the Sound of My Voice. A single movie, to cover all musical eras, likely would be three hours long. You can't do justice to Linda or her music as a lot would either left out or truncated. A Linda bio-pic, I want done right. I want it to be autobiographical and I want the music to be treated with respect. I don't want to be listening to any of Linda's music in the movie, only to discover no song is more than a minute and a half in length. That's the risk with a single movie that's maybe two hours in length. The movie will be made and then we will be grumbling about how it didn't cover everything. Or we will complain about the poetic licensing, the imagined dialogues in the movie that will be written to move the movie along. I can't see a three hour long movie on Linda's life that covers everything. If the movie will cover everything, something will end up being left on the cutting room floor or saved as deleted scenes in the Bonus Features section for the DVD/Blu-Ray. The Elvis bio-pic from 2022 was 159 minutes long. It covered Elvis's musical career but a lot was left out and it was mostly a fictional movie, as far as reality is concerned. It wasn't a very honest movie and there were enough real events from Elvis's life that they could've put in the movie. And I'm betting what we will see in the movie on Linda will be mostly a fictional accounting as well, probably with a similar run time as the Elvis movie. And maybe a soundtrack that has most of the usual hits and maybe some rarities. With any luck, the music will be remastered and remixed, but I'm betting that like Simple Dreams, the movie will have some glaring omissions. No matter how it’s done we won’t be seeing anymore than a minute in a half of a song’s performance except maybe during the credit roll at the end. I have no idea how they will do this, but covering just up to the late seventies, that does not tell her story.
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Post by alyn on Jan 16, 2024 6:39:13 GMT -5
My first thought was and still is “terrible idea.” I can’t understand how Linda could approve this. Someone who is so private that she kept most of the personal stories out of her memoir. Now some screenwriter is going to make up dialogue and conversations to tell her story? I only hope that she gets script approval but that seems unlikely. Let the documentary stand as her story on film. I would also someday love to see an oral biography with the words of her family, friends, and colleagues. I'm with you 100% Rob, I was working up to a very similar posting. I don't spend too much time thinking about it, but when I do, I just find myself thinking "Why?". The documentary did a great job in presenting as much of her life and career within time constraints and should stand with her book as sufficient. There is so much music to enjoy - her life is right there. Any potential fans out there should see enough about Linda - her profile has always been high - to do their own research and find out what we all know. I'm already getting weary of people who know I'm a fan pointing out the film news to me and I wish I could just hold up a sign saying 'No Comment - Watch The Documentary' rather than trying to sum up my feelings about it and boring them :-) I hate biopics, it's not just this one, I've always steered well clear of them. But, it's happening, it's a fact, I hope to God they do it some kind of right. But I won't be watching it.
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Post by erik on Jan 16, 2024 9:48:45 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
Certainly her uncomfortable close encounter with Morrison while on tour with The Doors in 1968 could be made into something blackly humorous. And her upbringing as a light-skinned Mexican-American, not experiencing direct racism but witnessing it for herself, could be made into something truly relevant, of her becoming the empathetic, understanding, intelligent and caring person the world, her fans, and her peers came to know her as. Whatever "drama" can be made from her earlier time might be gleaned from her experiences in Catholic school, which were at times quite traumatic.
I don't know that the film would really have to focus so extensively on her personal life, or make so much of her experiences with drug use, which were relatively brief and clearly not to the extreme of so many of her peers, to really be powerful. What they film can, and should, do, in my opinion, is to emphasize that, whether it was rock, country, American standards, Mexicana, opera, folk, Linda knew how to convey a dramatic way of telling her story through song in a way that few before her (Elvis being one of those) and only a handful since have ever done. It should emphasize the joy that Linda felt about singing, even when the circumstances of playing cavernous arenas and stadiums dampened some of that joy, and, inevitably at the end, the tragic reality of when her voice faltered to the point where she didn't feel like it made sense for either her or us to continue. You can made great cinematic drama from that.
The inevitable question is whether Selena Gomez can accomplish such a huge task, both as an actress and as a singer. None of us knows, of course, since, even though it's in pre-production, it may not be until next year until we get to see it. But I don't think we can sell either this film or Selena short.
Watch this space.
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Post by PoP80 on Jan 16, 2024 13:58:25 GMT -5
Depending on how much control Linda has on the material presented in the film, I doubt if it would delve too closely into intimate details about her personal life. I really can't envision the film at this point or how authentically Selena will portray her. I would imagine some of the singing will be Selena's voice, or they might have chosen an actress that's not a singer. Just speculation on my part, but I have some reservations about the whole project.
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Post by MokyWI on Jan 16, 2024 14:12:39 GMT -5
Love your post Eric. Spot on. I doubt we will see this in a year though, more like two to three.
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Post by rick on Jan 17, 2024 4:55:30 GMT -5
Just flashed on Linda on “The Tonight Show With Johnny Carson” telling him about performing standards one night and the previous night being at the Chuck Berry concert singing “Back in the U.S.A.” Who knows what they’ll do in the film but it would be interesting to juxtapose two successive nights where Linda sings with Chuck Berry to singing “Skylark.” Her concerts in the mid-1990s were more like that but I bet the film will focus more on her arena shows in the 1970s. I also cringe at the thought of seeing some actors in bad wigs playing J.D. Souther and Glenn Frey.
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Post by PoP80 on Jan 17, 2024 12:13:36 GMT -5
I was watching Only Murders in the Building last night, and in one of the episodes Selena Gomez was wearing large hoop earrings. Wonder if that was before or after she was offered the Biopic role? Hmmm...
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jan 17, 2024 15:23:37 GMT -5
Wow, I have a lot to catch up on but on my way to chiro doc. I, just to say one thing in agreement with all, is that I have very mixed feelings on this matter. To be continued. eddiejinnj
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Post by erik on Jan 17, 2024 20:36:34 GMT -5
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Post by musedeva on Jan 17, 2024 21:34:02 GMT -5
I'm here for it being nothing but delicious tiny and not so tiny morsels of her TRUTH...yeah...let's see it...Black White and all the colored shades in between......lets' see the actions and re action of Linda to what I figure is quite a menu of American Life outtakes......like that quote ah hers above
Honesty is of the 1st Utmost Importance...and in these exacting times when all is spilling its beans....(woops) upon the Tables of our Society
Lets sit at hers for a bit and take a bite...........
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Post by erik on Jan 23, 2024 9:44:05 GMT -5
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Post by PoP80 on Jan 23, 2024 10:39:15 GMT -5
This pretty much sums up my feelings about the whole thing as another "old person." Selena's voice is not comparable to Linda's, but as the writer said, the film should attract a younger audience. as well. If young people are introduced to Linda and her music, it will a success in that respect alone.
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Post by MokyWI on Jan 23, 2024 15:14:55 GMT -5
This pretty much sums up my feelings about the whole thing as another "old person." Selena's voice is not comparable to Linda's, but as the writer said, the film should attract a younger audience. as well. If young people are introduced to Linda and her music, it will a success in that respect alone. But Selena is NOT doing her own singing, she is lip syncing so she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t.
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Post by PoP80 on Jan 23, 2024 15:56:16 GMT -5
This is what he wrote in the article about the singing: Well, maybe not the casting so much as the fact that, instead of lip-synching to Ronstadt’s classic recordings, Gomez will be re-recording the singer’s biggest hits for the movie, which is only in pre-production.
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Post by LindaFan5 on Jan 23, 2024 16:28:00 GMT -5
Here’s the deal. A Linda Biopic was going to be done by somebody now or later. This one has people she loves at the helm. Friends who will have her back. Plus a very popular and talented lead actor who has great admiration for Linda the person and Linda the musician and who happens to be Mexican American too! AI can be used sparingly to smooth over rough patches whether Selena sings or lip syncs or it’s a combo of both, which is most likely. An ever so slight blending or layering could work. If the movie is visually stunning and feels accurate to the time periods that will be an achievement in itself. And who are we kidding? A Ronstadt movie comes out and we fans are going to see it. Even those of us with the strongest reservations. Maybe there should have been a tv series biopic. Her life unfolded in very distinct and different chapters. I could envision a 6 parter for a streamer to hit each era and genre. But it’s a movie. And I’m optimistic.
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Post by erik on Jan 23, 2024 19:28:30 GMT -5
The way I look at it, whoever was going to portray Linda in this biopic was going to have their hands full in coming up with an accurate portrayal of Linda that is also cinematically compelling. This is why I don't envy Selena Gomez's task now that this role is all hers (and one she got with Linda's own personal blessing), and why I wouldn't envy the task had it been anyone else either.
What could very well make this film, and this role, all that much tougher can be gauged in looking at the biopics about Freddy Mercury (Bohemian Rhapsody), Elton John (Rocketman), and Elvis. Each of them had their own brand of charisma; each of them were larger-than-life personalities; and in Elvis, you had someone who forever upended American popular music during the very staid 1950's. They were also flamboyant in each of their own individual ways.
Linda is much different from all of them; indeed, she is worlds apart, in my opinion. Her charisma and her stage personality were entirely grounded in who she always was as a person. Regardless of what song she was doing, in whatever genre it was in, what you got in Linda Ronstadt was the real Linda Ronstadt, nothing more, nothing less. Linda knew how to convey drama in song, but not in so over-the-top a fashion (even what she did with her Canciones De Mi Padre tour in 1988 was authentic and true to her Mexican roots). The way she succeeded was subtle on the surface, but in the end it had an impact that obviously still resonates with a lot of female singers even to this very day. How that can be conveyed on film to an audience, regardless of whether they are new to Linda's story or who have lived with her music, is, in my humble opinion, going to be Selena's biggest challenge, both in terms of acting and, regardless of how they go about it, the singing.
I am not going about this with blinders on, but I am not going to have a cynical attitude about it either. I wish everyone involved in this endeavor, and especially Linda herself, all the best.
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 24, 2024 1:13:23 GMT -5
Here’s the deal. A Linda Biopic was going to be done by somebody now or later. This one has people she loves at the helm. Friends who will have her back. Plus a very popular and talented lead actor who has great admiration for Linda the person and Linda the musician and who happens to be Mexican American too! AI can be used sparingly to smooth over rough patches whether Selena sings or lip syncs or it’s a combo of both, which is most likely. An ever so slight blending or layering could work. If the movie is visually stunning and feels accurate to the time periods that will be an achievement in itself. And who are we kidding? A Ronstadt movie comes out and we fans are going to see it. Even those of us with the strongest reservations. Maybe there should have been a tv series biopic. Her life unfolded in very distinct and different chapters. I could envision a 6 parter for a streamer to hit each era and genre. But it’s a movie. And I’m optimistic. You're quite right in that when the movie about Linda has been released to the theaters, I'm going to be among the ones who show up because it's about Linda! And I will go to see the movie with an open mind and an open heart. But, the producers should be forewarned, I am a natural born critic and I have been around in the world to have been part of Linda's musical journey from the beginning to the end. And I have read a great many Linda articles and interviews, and she is, next to Elvis, one artist I know a great deal about. And anything wrong about the movie, I will call attention to it. As to the non-musical scenes of the movie, on that, one may as well get used to the idea there will be lots of poetic licensing during those scenes, unless Linda or Linda's family or Peter or John or Bobby (Kimmel) have stories which can be included in the movie. If there are any stories Andrew Gold or Kenny Edwards gave in interviews that could make for great scenes in the movie, that would be a way to honor their memory. Speaking of Bobby and Kenny, one story they told was their disappointment and hurt in not being included among the musicians who played on Different Drum, their realization Capitol only wanted Linda and not them. That would make for a big, pivotal scene in Linda's life, and all three had to have mixed feelings about Bobby and Kenny being excluded. Recall their joy when in their car, they hear Different Drum on the radio. Even though they were excluded from playing on the recording, they would get royalties as members of the Stone Poneys. What Capitol did hurt Bobby, Kenny and Linda but Bobby and Kenny could be happy for Linda's sake, all the while hiding their own disappointment. And it's a testament to the kind of person Linda is in that she remained lifelong friends with Bobby and with Kenny to his death. Other artists who became a star in their band and were pushed out of their band as a solo performer usually stopped being friends with their other band mates. Or they still remained in the band but there was a growing resentment towards the performer who became the breakout star. James Griffin from Bread got to a point where he increasingly resented David Gates because Elektra chose David's songs to be the A-side. James wrote as many songs as David wrote and recorded those songs with Bread, yet Elektra never chose any of his songs to be the A-side. And except for drummer Mickey Jones, all of the other performers in the First Edition were singers as well as musicians. And they had a resentment in their situation when their record company chose to push Kenny Rogers as the focal point of the group. No question Kenny had a good, strong voice but the resentment in the group that was caused by their record company was comparable to the resentment Bobby and Kenny felt in the Stone Poneys. And that's why I think Bobby's and Kenny's resentment, hurt and disappointment would make for a great scene in the movie about Linda's life. However, I do worry if the incident was covered in the movie, there would be a tendency to gross exaggeration, such as the scene conveying the impression Linda was okay with Capitol's goals to make her the star. And everyone knows that was not what Linda wanted. She didn't want to be the soloist but just a female singer providing the harmony to Bobby's or Kenny's vocals. And I would hope John would be able to step in to advise that's not what happened. I worry he may go along with made up scenes as Linda, with her illness, may not be able to remember the details with 100% clarity. I expect non-musical scenes to be made up of events that never happened, or things said that were never said. It will just be something to move the movie along.
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 24, 2024 1:43:55 GMT -5
The way I look at it, whoever was going to portray Linda in this biopic was going to have their hands full in coming up with an accurate portrayal of Linda that is also cinematically compelling. This is why I don't envy Selena Gomez's task now that this role is all hers (and one she got with Linda's own personal blessing), and why I wouldn't envy the task had it been anyone else either. What could very well make this film, and this role, all that much tougher can be gauged in looking at the biopics about Freddy Mercury ( Bohemian Rhapsody), Elton John ( Rocketman), and Elvis. Each of them had their own brand of charisma; each of them were larger-than-life personalities; and in Elvis, you had someone who forever upended American popular music during the very staid 1950's. They were also flamboyant in each of their own individual ways. Linda is much different from all of them; indeed, she is worlds apart, in my opinion. Her charisma and her stage personality were entirely grounded in who she always was as a person. Regardless of what song she was doing, in whatever genre it was in, what you got in Linda Ronstadt was the real Linda Ronstadt, nothing more, nothing less. Linda knew how to convey drama in song, but not in so over-the-top a fashion (even what she did with her Canciones De Mi Padre tour in 1988 was authentic and true to her Mexican roots). The way she succeeded was subtle on the surface, but in the end it had an impact that obviously still resonates with a lot of female singers even to this very day. How that can be conveyed on film to an audience, regardless of whether they are new to Linda's story or who have lived with her music, is, in my humble opinion, going to be Selena's biggest challenge, both in terms of acting and, regardless of how they go about it, the singing. I am not going about this with blinders on, but I am not going to have a cynical attitude about it either. I wish everyone involved in this endeavor, and especially Linda herself, all the best. Totally spot on, Erik and I agree with on 99.9% of everything you wrote. The only disagreement for me is that I won't go into the movie with blinders on, but I will go in with some degree of skepticism (not cynicism) until I see the movie and conclude it is 100% accurate and truthful. Or they did a disservice to Linda with things that didn't happen or blew events out of proportion to the reality of what actually happened. I also worry as to how they will deal with how Linda felt about the fans. She made some harsh statements about her fans, though I know comments in interviews and the articles in which those statements appeared could've been taken out of context. I also worry about the time in Linda's life when she was made out to be a bit divaish. I recall Linda saying she was not as kind and gracious as she could have been, and that she felt remorse and some shame for the way she acted towards others. If that part of her life is covered, I'm hoping they will include how she came to regret some of her behavior. I will attend without blinders and with a little skepticism, because a little skepticism is always good. It'll be a Hollywood movie so one should expect Hollywood to get some things wrong. Even though the people involved are close to Linda. They will still have to deal with studio executives who may not like the way the movie is flowing and who may want some made up events put in the movie to make it "better." Most of the movie about Elvis was pure fiction and it wouldn't surprise me if the movie about Linda will also be pure fiction. I'll attend hoping for the best but with a little skepticism because I know how Hollywood is when it comes to the bio-movies about celebrities. I just hope Linda will get to see a print of the movie prior to its release and her memory is such that she can recognize something that didn't happen. I don't know how far her illness has progressed as to how much of her memories she's still able to recall. I remember her saying some of the stories in Simple Dreams were written down when someone said something that jarred her memory about the event. I'm hoping she'll be able to say "Wait a minute.That didn't happen!" Or can remember events that went down a different way to the way it may be depicted in the movie. Likewise, I wish everyone involved and especially Linda, all the very best in the endeavor. And I'm hoping it won't be a movie that takes four years to get released!
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Post by MokyWI on Jan 24, 2024 6:20:05 GMT -5
This is what he wrote in the article about the singing: Well, maybe not the casting so much as the fact that, instead of lip-synching to Ronstadt’s classic recordings, Gomez will be re-recording the singer’s biggest hits for the movie, which is only in pre-production.Yeah, and a couple weeks ago when Selena got the role it was said in the article Selena would NOT be doing the singing herself. So which is it?
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Post by mused on Jan 24, 2024 14:02:57 GMT -5
I think its prob going to be what Linda fan 5 says above; A I....oh girll....they are gonna have fun with THIS!!! Seriously.....they're gonna use Lindas' chops to "iron out" Selenas' vocal seams and its gonna just about be ALL Selena!!!
The whole industry is so auto tuned to H and back...why not....they have to make it palatable to all age groups
Other posters have it spot on as well...ITS ALL ABOUT THE SINGER
always has been
always will be
the Human voice is what speaks and resonates with other humans,,,bands are to be built AROUND a singer
these ads for "singers" to "join" pre built band projects are a joke...
but I'm kinda biased
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Post by PoP80 on Jan 24, 2024 16:18:35 GMT -5
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Post by musedeva on Jan 25, 2024 23:08:26 GMT -5
Selenas' gonnna knock em all outtah the park....you'll see...I'm sure she's been in training for this for eons' and prob Mamacittah's given some help too....
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Post by Ronstadt Rocks on Jan 28, 2024 22:07:49 GMT -5
Does anybody have a clip of when Linda was on the Dick Cavett show years ago? Would love to see that interview
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Post by erik on Feb 5, 2024 9:44:49 GMT -5
All that's missing are the 1969-70 hoop earrings (LOL): www.instyle.com/selena-gomez-linda-ronstadt-new-bangs-8558513As for Linda's appearance on Dick Cavett's Show (from November 13, 1970), to my knowledge the only parts of it that we know of are what was shown in The Sound Of My Voice. I haven't seen the full interview anywhere on YouTube.
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