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Post by erik on Dec 6, 2023 9:45:46 GMT -5
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I too don't think it is necessary to be that twangy and sound like you had just come from eating grits for breakfast. The thing that is a bit, well, irritating about Nettles' "twang" is that, for example, when she sings a word like "right", it comes out sounding like "rat".
would hope that Jordan might take a cue from Ruby, who clearly took a cue from Linda that you only need to do a song with the appropriate amount of passion to make it work.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 7, 2023 4:54:17 GMT -5
The thing that is a bit, well, irritating about Nettles' "twang" is that, for example, when she sings a word like " right", it comes out sounding like " rat". would hope that Jordan might take a cue from Ruby, who clearly took a cue from Linda that you only need to do a song with the appropriate amount of passion to make it work. Yes, I know what you mean about Nettles. Don't get me wrong, her voice is strong and clear, I can't get past the the heavy twang . I haven't heard any new music from her in a long time so perhaps she corrected that.. she CAN sing.. So Ruby did make it through via voting. I get the feeling she sailed through. Aside Cowboy Sweetheart, most of her songs have been ballads, some a little faster. I found this on youtube.. Looks like it was posted 2 years ago.. so that would put her around 14 years old. I know she is self taught.. but imagine with a little polishing. I really think, she's the closest singer to Linda that I have heard in a long time.. her upper range.. I even get chills. I've also heard lots of other people compare her to Linda.. it could be because of Long Long Time.. I know Ruby is not at Linda level but IMO pretty darn close... Here is Ruby singing Your cheating heart.. (around 14 yrs old) This would be a good song for her to do on the voice. IMO |
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Post by erik on Dec 7, 2023 9:28:06 GMT -5
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Being self-taught as she is, Ruby will certainly find ways of building on the success she's had on The Voice so far, and hopefully will continue to keep having, by closely listening to what she hears in other singers and developing that in her own way into a style that is definitively hers, as Linda did. Whether she can be at Linda's level we can only speculate on (only to say that it is a very tall order to say the least [IMHO]), but in this crazy music business with televised vocal competition shows, we can't discount the possibility.
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Post by erik on Dec 13, 2023 9:23:44 GMT -5
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Post by Dianna on Dec 13, 2023 21:01:54 GMT -5
She's doing the type of songs many of her fans, including myself want her to do.. very authentic.. I also enjoyed the other song she did as a trio.. the Taylor Swift song, which is obviously more contemporary and Ruby's voice really stood out.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 14, 2023 1:02:59 GMT -5
Maybe next week Ruby can do another Linda song.. "Blue Bayou," or even KD Lang's version of "Crying," Or "Hallelujah."
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Post by MokyWI on Dec 14, 2023 16:29:35 GMT -5
Yes Dianna, I agree, especially a K.D. Lang tune. I think she could really nail one of those. I don’t watch the show so I am not sure if she has done a Lang number yet or not but when I first heard her that is who I thought of her covering, even before Linda.
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Post by erik on Dec 14, 2023 23:18:02 GMT -5
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And if she does another John Denver song, I could recommend "Sweet Surrender".
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Post by Dianna on Dec 19, 2023 1:02:01 GMT -5
So we were all wrong. lol.. This is my favorite Elvis song. The other song Ruby chose was Desperado (Eagles Version)
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Post by Dianna on Dec 20, 2023 3:12:40 GMT -5
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Post by erik on Dec 20, 2023 9:37:00 GMT -5
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Indeed it's a shame Ruby didn't quite get the prize. But that doesn't necessarily mean she's done for altogether. She should be seriously considered for a recording contract, hopefully by somebody with scruples, given how daring her song choices were, and how she managed to impress without pandering or overreaching like we've seen happen so many times on these competitions (which, again, is a big reason why Linda would likely never want to be a coach or a judge on any of them).
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Post by Dianna on Dec 20, 2023 17:11:20 GMT -5
Indeed it's a shame Ruby didn't quite get the prize. But that doesn't necessarily mean she's done for altogether. She should be seriously considered for a recording contract, hopefully by somebody with scruples, given how daring her song choices were, and how she managed to impress without pandering or overreaching like we've seen happen so many times on these competitions I felt, she was the most original contestant, beginning with her blind audition song, "Cowboy Sweetheart." Very distinctive vocals and style. I did feel that if she would lose, it would be to a male rocker or country singer, which seem to do really well on these shows.. but you never hear from them again... I suppose if the winner would go the country route he might stand a chance because you don't hear any nickelback/creed rock voices on pop radio these days.. which begs the question is rock music dead? |
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Post by erik on Dec 20, 2023 19:38:36 GMT -5
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I have to say that rock music, as we know it, has now become so fragmented and so corporatized that it may indeed be dead; and truth be told, I don't know that I would put Nickleback or Creed as the saviors of it. I've heard some of their stuff, and it doesn't (nor could it) hold a candle to what was done in the past.
But then one has to be reminded that Linda, though she never let rock and roll define her as an artist, nevertheless defined what real rock and roll is throughout her career in her ability to mix the seemingly disparate styles of country, R&B, jazz, blues, gospel, and pop that she listened to as a youngster and which led to rock and roll being born in the mid-1950's. Particularly important, perhaps most so, was her ability to reconnect rock and roll to its C&W roots in her own brand of California-based country-rock.
This leads back to Ruby Leigh. If she can chart a path similar to Linda's, which she seemed to do exceptionally well in doing "Long Long Time" on The Voice, she can be someone who can make an impact; and if it's even a fraction of what Linda did, I'd call that a big deal.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 20, 2023 22:20:43 GMT -5
I have to say that rock music, as we know it, has now become so fragmented and so corporatized that it may indeed be dead; and truth be told, I don't know that I would put Nickleback or Creed as the saviors of it. I've heard some of their stuff, and it doesn't (nor could it) hold a candle to what was done in the past. But then one has to be reminded that Linda, though she never let rock and roll define her as an artist, nevertheless defined what real rock and roll is throughout her career in her ability to mix the seemingly disparate styles of country, R&B, jazz, blues, gospel, and pop that she listened to as a youngster and which led to rock and roll being born in the mid-1950's. Particularly important, perhaps most so, was her ability to reconnect rock and roll to its C&W roots in her own brand of California-based country-rock. This leads back to Ruby Leigh. If she can chart a path similar to Linda's, which she seemed to do exceptionally well in doing "Long Long Time" on The Voice, she can be someone who can make an impact; and if it's even a fraction of what Linda did, I'd call that a big deal.[/quote] Yeah, I'm not crazy about those 2 bands either. I was just making a comparison between that style of music (early 2000's) to the winner of the voice, Huntley.. he has a great voice but his sound, to me, already sounds old, IMO.. which, might work in country music, if he chose that route.. but not so much in contemporary pop music. The other thing I notice, is a lot of the female singers on the voice have a similar sound.. Last week the contestants paired up with other teams to form a trio and sang a taylor swift song.... the 3 girl singers, (not Ruby's group) to me, all sounded a like.. I could not tell the difference (and I do have a fairly good ear lol).. husky voices, real loud, screaming . it seemed like they were trying to out do each other.. I didn't care for it and It could be a personal preference.. Not memorable at all. I have a strong feeling that we have not heard the last of Ruby... stay tuned.. or what's that saying? "Watch this space." lol |
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Post by erik on Dec 21, 2023 0:13:56 GMT -5
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It seems to be typical of these voice competition shows, starting with American Idol, to get their female singers to all sound alike, as though they are afraid of someone standing out for the right reasons (interpretive skills; intelligence; emotion, etc.). And getting these women to try and outdo each other in vocal volume? Do these competition shows never get enough of that...or is the music-listening public so used to it that they have long since come to accept it? Whichever one it is, it doesn't necessarily or really make for great, or even merely good music or singing (IMHO).
I certainly agree that we've not heard the last of Ruby. She only needs to continue to refine her techniques, whether it was the cowgirl yodeling of "Cowboy's Sweetheart" and "Lovesick Blues" or the elemental cry inherent in "Long Long Time". And again, I hope she gets someone in the industry who understands her eclectic song choices and lets her be Ruby Leigh and not a clone of a clone of a clone, as has happened far too often in the industry.
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Post by Dianna123 on Dec 21, 2023 4:15:49 GMT -5
Erik, for example... One of the girls I'm referring to sang a Janis Joplin song ..... during the intro ..before her first note.. I felt that "hot flash of embarrassment," creep up. I knew I wasn't going to like it. It seemed so affected and forced.. she even crouched down to the floor swinging her hair while singing ... In my opinion it was just awful..It's not that she's a terrible singer.. she did okay with an Adele song. I did read some of the comments afterwards and people seemed to have loved it.. WTF? Have these people heard/seen the original version? I realize it's basically a karaoke show.. but it was a cheesy impersonation. At least bring some originality.. which is one of the reasons, I feel Ruby stood out for me.. I had never heard of the song, Cowboy Sweetheart. After hearing Ruby's version I was curious and looked up the original by Patsy Montana ...and it was okay, IMO.. a very old song with a singing style popular from that era..What I liked about Ruby is that she took an old song like that and made it hers .. it still sounded vintage and contemporary at the same time.. her style and her voice to me are very original and authentic.. Of course, Linda has the ability to do this .. Blue Bayou comes to mind, where she sang it better (IMO) than the original by Roy. Anyway, just another peeve of mine I notice from these shows lol
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