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Post by Dianna on Sept 27, 2023 1:13:18 GMT -5
So this came up on my youtube. Performance by Ruby Leigh The Voice September 2023
Her name is Ruby Leigh (I love her name lol) and she is 16 years old. Her upper range reminds me of Linda's..Of course, Linda IMO has more control.. it's been a while since I've stopped what I was doing to listen to a singer. It says A 4 chair turn but I was listening to her sing I didn't pay attention to the coach/judge comments.
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Post by erik on Sept 28, 2023 8:31:33 GMT -5
At the very least, you have to admire her, I guess you can call it moxey, for doing "I Want To Be A Cowboy's Sweetheart", the 1937 Patsy Montana classic. That takes a lot of nerve; and while Reba (natch!) recognized it off the top, the other judges weren't too far behind either.
Would she have the nerve to touch anything of Linda's, as Brennley Brown did six years ago with "Long Long Time"? We'll only know if she is able to hang in there. But it'll be interesting to see for however long she hangs around.
Watch this space.
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Post by Dianna on Sept 29, 2023 0:22:06 GMT -5
I'm interested in hearing what other songs she will do. I think Ruby could do well on any Linda songs, especially country/country rock i.e. poor poor pitiful me or silver threads. When I watched the video back, I was laughing... her dad looks like a character from Hee Haw (remember that show? lol).. her mom looks like a tough New Yorker and sister looks like she belongs in a tim burton movie. lol.. I hope she does well.. I like her voice.
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Post by erik on Sept 29, 2023 8:28:42 GMT -5
Weird composite of a family (especially a father who steps right out of Hee Haw, which, yes, I do remember), but I hope it doesn't reflect back on Ruby herself, or on the people of her home state of Missouri.
I don't doubt she could do Linda's classic country-rock songs if she is fully aware of the songs and of Linda herself. And it is as you said, Dianna, that Linda has more of an ability to control her voice. If Ruby were to do any of Linda's songs and show that kind of control, then even the sky wouldn't be a limit for her (IMHO).
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Post by Dianna on Sept 30, 2023 1:17:23 GMT -5
Erik, I hear vocal similarities between Linda and Ruby in this song..
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Post by rick on Oct 1, 2023 16:44:48 GMT -5
Although I am no fan of “programs” like “The Voice” or “American Idol” I did like her. She actually reminds me more of a young version of k.d. lang who is from WESTERN Canada. k.d. lang did quite a bit of yodeling early in her career.
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Post by Partridge on Oct 1, 2023 23:21:34 GMT -5
In your opinion, are those programs about the talent or more about the judges?
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Post by erik on Oct 2, 2023 8:36:49 GMT -5
Quote by Partridge:
Speaking for myself, I would say it's more about the judges, because that's who the people tune in for. And I would say that it also has to do with what the judges will say to the "contestants".
And as much as we might have wanted to have Linda be a judge on one of these shows, I think her decided disdain for them is well founded. As she once said, "Competition is for race horses, not artists."
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Post by Partridge on Oct 3, 2023 21:35:11 GMT -5
The judges are the reason I tune out.
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Post by erik on Oct 4, 2023 8:32:25 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
I agree, and I think it is at least in part because a lot of that yodeling style is based on the Mexican ranchera vocal style, the similarities of which I think Linda is very much aware.
And it's for those reasons that I would love to see if Ruby could handle some of Linda's Western-centered songs ("Colorado"; "Old Paint"; "Desperado").
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Post by Dianna on Oct 6, 2023 22:30:36 GMT -5
In your opinion, are those programs about the talent or more about the judges? Probably more about the judges which I suppose lures their fans in. At this point, I find myself not paying too much attention to the judge/coach comments. Most of what they say is positive and sometimes they go overboard and cheesy that I get a "hot flash," of embarrassment and roll my eyes. lol i.e There was a girl the other night, don't ask me her name... ? She was very young and sang A Beatles song and made it contemporary.. but with a style a strongly dislike.. that breathy- 5 thousand notes per word style.. I cringed.. Yet, the judges were very excited and I believe it was a 4 chair turn!? I'm surprised Dolly hasn't been asked or accepted to be a judge.
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Post by Dianna on Oct 6, 2023 22:40:41 GMT -5
Although I am no fan of “programs” like “The Voice” or “American Idol” I did like her. She actually reminds me more of a young version of k.d. lang who is from WESTERN Canada. k.d. lang did quite a bit of yodeling early in her career. I love K.D.s voice too.... And IMO somewhat similar to Linda's style... That gorgeous Vibrato.. i.e. Linda and Jennifer Warnes.
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Post by Dianna on Oct 31, 2023 1:22:06 GMT -5
Ruby Leigh did make it through to the "knock out rounds." (I haven't watched this show in years so I forget how the elimination process is done before voting begins.) I taped the show this season to watch for her and FINALLY, tonight she battled it out with another contestant (Al Boogie) and won. The song Reba (their coach) chose was A Dolly Parton song, "Jolene," which, IMO, for obvious reasons is not really fair for a male in a singing competition lol... I can't find the clip of the entire performance on youtube .. )it might be too early.. this is all I could find.. Ruby did a really good job... Reba made a weird comment IMO... like it was a stretch singing "Cowboy Sweetheart," (from Ruby's blind audition) to Jolene.. Come on, Reba.. not that much of a stretch.. A stretch would be IMO... singing Cowboy Sweetheart to A Tony Bennett Song lol.. Anyway, here is a portion of the video from a local news channel ..... On a side note. I'm loving her dress style too... hard to believe she's only 16...
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Post by erik on Oct 31, 2023 17:30:59 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
Kind of head-scratching for Reba to say that, especially given that "Jolene" can work in a kind of Western setting (which is why I could have seen Linda herself cover that song). Well, no one's perfect, not even Reba.
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Post by Dianna on Nov 13, 2023 23:59:45 GMT -5
This just came across my feed. I'm loving her voice. lol.. Yep Rick, I see what you mean about K.D. I'm hearing many styles.. Patsy, LeAnn, Linda, Carrie and K.D. Ruby has the perfect female country voice that I love. lol
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Post by erik on Nov 14, 2023 0:51:48 GMT -5
Ruby wasn't too shabby doing LeAnn Rimes' 1996 breakout hit "Blue". Now if we could get her doing one of Linda's.....
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Post by Dianna on Nov 14, 2023 22:32:28 GMT -5
Yes, I hope Ruby covers something by Linda as well. I didn't catch the entire episode and assumed Ruby made it through whatever round "Blue," was at that point. I guess she did get picked out of 2 others by Reba (her coach) to go on . Wynonna Judd was a mentor and had a few things to say about Ruby. I'm not familiar at all with the newer country singers and a lot of the voices IMO sound a like and I can't pick one singer from the next.. kind of like pop meets country.. i.e. taylor swift .. don't get me wrong, taylor has grown on me a little lol.. But I do agree with Wynonna Judd Country Music is "missing that classic style".... like Patsy, Linda and even Trisha.. I really do think people have a longing to hear it again.. Here's another clip from the show
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Post by erik on Nov 14, 2023 23:39:29 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
With respect to not being able to pick one female singer from the next--I'm inclined to believe that, one, record label honchos and Music Row hustlers encourage the bleaching of authenticity from their female artists; and two, the country radio DJ's seem to be too preoccupied to tell you which female singer you are listening to at any given time. Not that they even play too many female artists to begin with.
If Ruby were to win this whole season, I would hope someone would support her in her quest to succeed on her own terms, and not the terms of some redneck jackass in a Brooks Brothers suit in a Nashville high-rise. She doesn't deserve to be anything but who she is authentically, and that is everything.
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Post by Dianna on Nov 16, 2023 3:34:51 GMT -5
Erik, it starts at 3:15 "Lovesick Blues." She was 11 years old!lol Oh near the beginning when the guy introduces her .. he asked her if she liked "Florida Georgia Line," and she said, "No." lol.. I don't know if she was joking or not because the drummer for the band was apparently there or in the band. lol
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Post by PoP80 on Nov 16, 2023 10:06:36 GMT -5
There are many talented singers on The Voice each season. They have to go through several rounds of auditions in order to make it to the show in the first place, so the caliber of talent is fairly high to begin with. This is different from American Idol, where the contestants are more "raw talent." Most of the people who appear on The Voice, or even the winners, are rarely heard about again. It's unfortunate because it doesn't seem like it really launches anyones' career, despite their talent. This is in contrast to Idol, where many contestants have had very successful careers, such as Kelly Clarkson, Jennifer Hudson, Carrie Underwood. Katherine McPhee, Constantine Maroulis, etc. They're both entertaining shows, but of course, the coaches/judges become the main focus of the show, rather than the contestants.
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Post by erik on Nov 17, 2023 9:49:10 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
Yes, that Florida-Georgia Line zinger was a good one. Ruby, incidentally, did right by "Lovesick Blues", and she did it in a way closer to Hank Sr.'s 1948 recording; I wouldn't necessarily expect her to know Linda's 1970 take.
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I don't think too many careers have ever been launched by televised voice competition shows, apart from the ones you have mentioned. Besides the scant few that ever go on to do anything even when they win, there's the fact that, again as you said, the coaches/judges are (or at least they think they are) the "real stars", and that so many of the contestants are forced into competing for who can hold a note the longest. This is not how careers are made, but it is unfortunately the way the music business has operated for several decades now (IMHO).
On that note, it's one more (very good) reason why Linda has disdain for things like this. But even if, on the off chance, Linda had accepted an opportunity to go on one of these shows as a coach or a judge, one wonders how any of these contestants, especially the womenfolk, would feel in her presence. If any of them, Ruby for starters, knew anything about her and her music at all, I suspect they'd find it rather intimidating.
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Post by Dianna on Nov 20, 2023 0:22:47 GMT -5
They're both entertaining shows, but of course, the coaches/judges become the main focus of the show, rather than the contestants. Speaking of. This from "The Voice," in the U.K. I saw this clip the other day and found it quite entertaining.
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Post by Dianna on Nov 20, 2023 0:59:09 GMT -5
But even if, on the off chance, Linda had accepted an opportunity to go on one of these shows as a coach or a judge, one wonders how any of these contestants, especially the womenfolk, would feel in her presence. If any of them, Ruby for starters, knew anything about her and her music at all, I suspect they'd find it rather intimidating. I have no doubt about it. Let's face it, these up and coming artists are getting younger by the minute. At 16 years old I wouldn't expect her to know Linda's early 1970's version of "Lovesick Blues," unless the parents or close relatives are diehard Linda Fans. She obviously knows the Williams version from an even earlier time.. this could be due to a parent/grandparent being a big fan . I feel because Linda has been out of the public eye for many many years, even before she became ill and was still making music, she for the most part, did not promote herself in the way say; Dolly or even Reba have done.. Then there are artists like Patsy Cline who have been gone for many years and are considered iconic legacy artists and are celebrated and appreciated long after they are gone. I don't want Linda's music to become so obscure that people forget who she is. I'm sure Linda worries less about it than I do. I haven't heard much more about the Linda movie with Selena Gomez.. and hope when it is released Linda will gain even more fans.
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Post by erik on Nov 20, 2023 10:04:40 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
I think it's instructive to remember that Linda was never as flamboyant as Dolly and Reba are, and that her performances were always marked with a certain sense of shyness. What we got from Linda was who she was in reality, regardless of whether it was the leading female pop/rock artist of the 1970's, the chanteuse of the Nelson Riddle era, or the Mexican ranchera singer of the Canciones albums. That's not to belittle either Dolly or Reba, by the way. They were (and still are) doing what they want to do, however they want. Linda did what she wanted to do, and she did it her way.
I also fully support your notion that Linda's music should never become so obscure that she becomes merely a footnote in music history to future generations, though with a fair amount of younger artists out there who do seem to know Linda's music, either on their own or via their parents, and mark her as an influence, there may be less chance of that. Maybe even Ruby Leigh does. You just never know
As to the cinematic biopic of Linda with Selena Gomez--given that the SAG-AFTRA strike is over, we could know something about that in the ensuing couple of months the definitive status of that project (IMHO).
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Post by Dianna on Nov 20, 2023 20:25:10 GMT -5
I think it's instructive to remember that Linda was never as flamboyant as Dolly and Reba are, and that her performances were always marked with a certain sense of shyness. What we got from Linda was who she was in reality, regardless of whether it was the leading female pop/rock artist of the 1970's, the chanteuse of the Nelson Riddle era, or the Mexican ranchera singer of the Canciones albums. That's not to belittle either Dolly or Reba, by the way. They were (and still are) doing what they want to do, however they want. Linda did what she wanted to do, and she did it her way. Even though A person like Dolly or Reba are not making what's considered top billboard hits anymore. they are still out there promoting their music and other projects, which keep them in the public eye. I don't think this has anything to do with how "flamboyant or outgoing," they are..as opposed to how driven one is and how relevant one chooses to remain. Regardless of how shy Linda is she was very popular at one time and one could argue, "highly driven." My point is, I wish she would have kept some of that. As I said, it probably irks me a lot more than it does her. lol
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Post by erik on Nov 20, 2023 22:07:10 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
You won't get any argument from me on that. It is, unfortunately, what it is. She got tired of being away from her home, especially when she started being a mother in the 1990's; and yet, the whole idea of making albums inevitably involves promoting them. She (more or less) liked the first, but not necessarily the second; and in any case, the content of her projects was not necessarily appealing to a wide enough audience.
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Post by Dianna on Nov 28, 2023 1:35:13 GMT -5
I guess we both got our wish, Erik.
Edit: I understand Linda doesn't care nor does she watch these competition shows.. but I wish someone would send her this performance..This is the closest I've heard to Linda's version. Nobody out there today, IMO that sounds like this...
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Post by PoP80 on Nov 28, 2023 10:10:28 GMT -5
Ruby definitely did that song justice last night. I'm impressed that she even knows who Linda is and listens to her music. Linda will probably hear about the performance from someone, and I'm sure she will think it's a better version of the song than hers (LOL).
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Post by erik on Nov 28, 2023 13:09:34 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
Yes, this was one of those really pleasant shocks that one doesn't often get from shows like this.
Quote by PoP80:
She did indeed do it justice. As to how she came across the song, it could very well have come to her through one of the judges, or it could easily have been her idea alone.
In terms of whether Linda will hear about it, if she does it'll probably be because her daughter Mary brought it to her attention (IMHO).
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Post by Dianna on Nov 28, 2023 16:52:48 GMT -5
I believe there was a recent resurgence of LLT through a netflix show or a popular game.. I can't remember the title of it and there was even a thread (that's how I learned about it) on this forum not too long ago discussing it.. What wasn't shown on the video is the part on the voice how Ruby came to choose that song.. She said, because of her young age (16)and lack of experience she herself cannot connect to the lyrics (unrequited love) but, she can connect to Linda herself because Linda started out very young. So, I think Ruby knows a lot more about Linda than I give her credit. I do know she credits her dad (the guy with the overalls during the blind audition) for introducing her to class rock and country music.
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