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Post by kgreen on Jul 22, 2012 8:47:02 GMT -5
I know there were always rumors about Mick, but thought it was just a "musical encounter". Wonder if Linda will talk about or confirm/refute in her book? Just came across this review, never even heard of the book, was looking for a release date of Linda's book.....does anyone know??
Book Review Jagger Unauthorized Christopher Andersen May 28, 1993
Details Writer: Christopher Andersen; Genres: Biography, Music
Now, let's see: Mick Jagger hated the smell of Jerry Hall's breast milk. He's a lousy tipper. He slept with Linda Ronstadt and had a fling with Margaret Trudeau and, very likely, Princess Margaret. He slept with lots of men—not just David Bowie, as Bowie's ex-wife, Angela, revealed three years ago, but also (among the famous ones) the Stones' first rhythm guitarist, Brian Jones; the group's manager, Andrew Loog Oldham; and probably Andy Warhol. Jagger and Bowie enjoyed a impromptu threesome with Bette Midler in a closet during a party. And, yes, he and Rudolf Nureyev even made a tongue-in-cheek pass at Geraldo Rivera!
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Post by sassy on Jul 22, 2012 9:10:58 GMT -5
Not to be a downer, but I really don't think Linda will address anything intimate regarding her personal life in this book. She might mention Jerry Brown and George Lucas, but I wouldn't be shocked if she didn't. I really think this will be more of a memoir about her musical career, so to speak. If she speaks about Mick, it will most likely be the story of how he got her to do TUMBLING DICE, while she told him to do more ballads.
Of course, she could prove me wrong. To be honest, I'm surprised she's even writing the book in the first place.
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Post by erik on Jul 22, 2012 12:15:19 GMT -5
If she touches on the aspects of how these relationships have impacted her musically (and after all, it was Mr. Jagger's idea that Linda should do something like "Tumbling Dice"), then that wouldn't surprise me. We don't need the sordid, tabloid stuff, and I seriously doubt we'll get it in her memoir.
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Post by kgreen on Jul 22, 2012 16:53:23 GMT -5
I agree, doubt she'd discuss that sort of thing and the memoir can reveal much about her career without any sordid details. I emailed Simon & Shuster asking for a release date and they replied saying they do not have any timetable at this juncture.
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Post by the Scribe on Jul 22, 2012 22:47:14 GMT -5
If I were Linda I would write two books. One for now and one for after she was dead. ha She probably had some fun between her serial monogamy but after all she was the one time Queen of Rock and Roll where sex, drugs and music was the mantra. She didn't need a man to define herself and sex is just sex after all (unless you are a hypocritical religionist). It is not an evil act and if there is love involved all the better but if not then it's just a physical thing and fun for that moment. I only wish she had been my first!
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Post by sliderocker on Jul 23, 2012 1:31:45 GMT -5
If she touches on the aspects of how these relationships have impacted her musically (and after all, it was Mr. Jagger's idea that Linda should do something like "Tumbling Dice"), then that wouldn't surprise me. We don't need the sordid, tabloid stuff, and I seriously doubt we'll get it in her memoir. I've got my doubts as well, but as many women (and possibly men) as Jagger is rumored to have slept with, it's kind of scary to think about any STDs he might've picked up along the way or passed along to others. I have to wonder though just how did the writer of the unauthorized Jagger biography confirm any of the claims made or did he just take such claims at face value?
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Post by philly on Jul 23, 2012 2:08:23 GMT -5
I've been anticipating her autobi....err, "memoir" more and more lately. ;D Didn't she get like a 3+ million advance? Not the biggest, but not bad, I'd say. I figure Simon&Schuster, and Linda herself probably realize they'd like/need something racy/shocking/sensational in the book to start a "buzz" and get the sales rolling. I don't think she'd reveal anything too embarrasing about anyone, certainly not anyone living. I sure don't think she'll reveal anything that could hurt her friends like Jerry Brown who's governor again. Maybe something like they smoked pot together? That'd probably make the news, but nothing that would shock anyone very much... Now if she'd done something like, sleep with Castro, that would burn up the wires I'd think! I could speculate all day what kind of story it might be, but I imagine it will be a surprise. But to what extent? I for one, am hoping her book is "Juicy" [glow=red,2,300]I certainly hope Linda doesn't say "Oh I don't remember much about that crazy time I was a rock star"[/glow] ;D
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Post by the Scribe on Jul 23, 2012 15:56:44 GMT -5
I would never admit to sleeping with Castro unless all she did was sleep. That scraggly beard would be a distraction plus I'll bet he snores. And he is way too tall for Linda. Unless you meant Raul Castro, the former governor of Arizona? Then all bets are off! Agents stir outcry by detaining former Arizona Gov. Raul Castro, 96Ex-governor had trace of medical radiation by Daniel González - Jul. 4, 2012 11:11 PM The Republic | azcentral.com . The wife and a friend of former Arizona Gov. Raul Castro are calling for changes in Border Patrol procedures after agents recently detained the frail 96-year-old in 100-degree heat for more than a half-hour. Castro said he was traveling from his home in Nogales, Ariz., to celebrate his 96th birthday in Tucson when his vehicle triggered a radiation sensor at the Border Patrol checkpoint on Interstate 19 north of Tubac. Castro said agents sent him to another inspection area and continued to question him outside his vehicle for 40 to 45 minutes even though he explained that he had undergone hospital testing on his pacemaker the previous day, likely triggering the sensor. Castro has downplayed the June 12 incident, which occurred just before noon. His wife and driver, however, were appalled. "It's traumatic, to say the least, for an old man," said Castro's wife, Patricia. She said the Border Patrol officials need to use "more common sense" when they encounter elderly people who have undergone medical procedures. Anne Doan, a family friend from Nogales who was driving Castro to the birthday luncheon in Tucson, wrote a letter to the Nogales International newspaper recounting the incident and blasting the Border Patrol for its treatment of Castro..... The Mexican-born Castro was governor of Arizona from 1974 to 1977. He was the state's first and only Hispanic governor. He and his wife retired to Nogales after he served as U.S. ambassador to Argentina. He also served as ambassador to Bolivia and El Salvador in the 1960s. In an interview, Castro told The Republic that he was "not thrilled" by the way he was treated but did not file a complaint. He said that he understands Border Patrol agents are "there to do a job" but that they need a better system for dealing with elderly people. He said he was exposed to the sun during part of the questioning. "The sun was blazing on me," he said. I bet they wouldn't do such a thing if I were Linda Ronstadt. And if I were Linda Ronstadt I sure as hell wouldn't be living in Nogales. Read more: www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2012/07/03/20120703agents-stir-outcry-by-detaining-former-arizona-governor-castro.html#ixzz21U9JttYXOk. I'll fess up that the last two lines are mine.
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Post by lance on Jul 26, 2012 20:02:19 GMT -5
Linda and Mick are mentioned in the Andy Warhol Diaries, Feb 20 1977. Bianca accused Mick of seeing Linda Ronstadt.
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Post by memac62 on Jul 27, 2012 8:56:53 GMT -5
This is from the book Mick: The Wild Life and Mad Genius of Jagger by Christopher Anderson concerning Ms. Ronstadt:
"One of the new women in Mick's life who did give Bianca some concern was a rock star famous for her many and varied liaisons. Linda Ronstadt already had a half dozen platinum albums and a string of hits such as "You're No Good," When Will I Be Loved," "Long, Long Time," "Tracks of My Tears," and "Blue Bayou" to her credit when she and Mick got together in the late 1970s. She was also known for the men in her life: rocker Jackson Browne, singer-songwriter J.D. Souther, comedians Steve Martin and Albert Brooks, Pete Hamill, and then-and-future California governor Jerry Brown, to name just a few. Ronstadt didn't regard her love life as anything out of the ordinary. "I wish I had as much in bed," she claimed, "as I get in the newspapers."
With Mick's help, Ronstadt, who had a difficult time mastering the lyrics to "Tumbling Dice," recorded her own version of the song. Her countrified take was one of the rare covers of the Stones tune ever to make it into the Top Ten.
It was only a matter of time before Bianca learned that her husband was spending quality time with Ronstadt at the singer's ocean-front home. Although she flew straight to California and confronted Mick - effectively bringing an end to the affair - Bianca admitted that she actually liked Ronstadt; the only woman she really felt threatened by was still Carly Simon."
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Post by djay on Jul 27, 2012 9:20:04 GMT -5
A new day! I never thought I'd see the day when a hack like Christopher Andersen (unauthorized biographer of Princess Dianna and "Jackie O") is quoted here. This guy has been cranking out books about people he's never meant, based on what he's read in People, Us and the famous National Enquirer at a faster rate than Mitt Romney is making international enemies.
As for what LR may or may not talk about in her book--who knows. I do hope she considers that it'll be talked about one way or the other (a writers omissions make just as much news as their confessions).
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Post by Richard W on Jul 27, 2012 9:20:41 GMT -5
I wasn't aware that Linda's "Tumbling Dice" was a top 10...
She did, however, master the lyrics. And how.
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Post by erik on Jul 27, 2012 9:24:21 GMT -5
Quote by richwar: Don't we wish it were, though. Try #32 .
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Post by countryfied on Jul 27, 2012 11:04:39 GMT -5
since when is Linda's version of Tumbling Dice "countrified"? I hear that not.
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Post by 1 on Jul 27, 2012 11:06:50 GMT -5
Don't we wish it were, though. Try #32 . in a sense, you could say that tumbling dice was a #1 song, since it was on an album that stayed at #1 for several weeks. i wonder how it did on the "ROCK" chart.
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Post by the Scribe on Jul 27, 2012 15:15:24 GMT -5
It was only a matter of time before Bianca learned that her husband was spending quality time with Ronstadt at the singer's ocean-front home. Although she flew straight to California and confronted Mick - effectively bringing an end to the affair - Bianca admitted that she actually liked Ronstadt; the only woman she really felt threatened by was still Carly Simon."
I would have to hear this from Linda to believe any of it but it makes for good tabloid press and chatter. Linda has been amazingly good at keeping the wraps on gossip the way Elvis was able to do.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 27, 2012 17:06:01 GMT -5
sex is not just sex for many people and not only quote hypocritical religiousnists. i just wish that the forum can stay cheery and positive. i am being totally open and objective by saying that there are probably as many reasons why people refrain from sex or feel it is important enough to consider/ponder before engaging in such activity (including reasons that have nothing to do with religion) as there are those that think sex is just sex and the like including some of the reasons azfan brought up. i am not expressing my personal beliefs whatsoever in this post. eddiejinnj
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 27, 2012 17:15:35 GMT -5
yeah tumbling dice only made up to number 32. were there rock track charts then? if there was i am not sure i have ever seen linda on such a chart but that may be my lack of knowing to look at the time. i might have knwn and just don't recall rt now. eddiejinnj
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Post by Partridge on Jul 27, 2012 21:06:01 GMT -5
Based on the scoop the author has on the relationship between Mick and Linda, the book sounds like a waste of time. I searched for some chart positions for Tumbling Dice, found none, but came across this article in Billboard, December 8, 1984:
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Post by erik on Jul 27, 2012 21:20:29 GMT -5
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Post by the Scribe on Jul 28, 2012 2:17:56 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that Tony. It should provide insight why Linda's career has taken so many twists and turns and the thought processes behind it. The Anne Murray parallel article was also revealing. It showed how Linda was not alone in her musical "crisis" and that most artists must go through this with some being sooner than later. Even though they may be in their best voices ever their time is often up in the buying publics eyes. Linda has enjoyed a very long career and I am sure it is because she followed her heart and intuition. While some of her later choices may have signaled failure because of low sales I think that is an inevitable and predictable outcome no matter any choice made. True and future fans are glad for any material whether it was a success at the time or not. The same is true in the Art world. At least Linda didn't cut off her ear. I do worry about her heart though.
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Post by Partridge on Jul 28, 2012 10:14:30 GMT -5
Yeh... I was aware of the Top 40/Hot 100 status of the song. I was trying to find something that might back up the author's assertion that this was a Top 10 hit, other than the album chart position. But I be so busy that if I don't find what I'm looking for in a few minutes, I'm on to something else.
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Post by the Scribe on Jul 31, 2012 16:11:28 GMT -5
If you have read that article did you get the idea that Peter Asher or someone should have tons of Linda singing on film? So where are they? We want them.
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Post by fabtastique on Aug 1, 2012 5:29:29 GMT -5
I want to see those videos too of Linda recording Lush Life - how on earth have they not surfaced.....
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Post by philly on Aug 7, 2012 2:41:16 GMT -5
Came across this webpage, it's a reader-edited site, so that explains the Nelson Riddle entry....hey someone should put Rob and his picture in this list, heheh ;D www.whosdatedwho.com/tpx_1521/linda-ronstadt/datinghistoryLinda Ronstadt Dating History Complete list of Linda Ronstadt dates, listed in chronological order. Steve Martin Leo unknown date Dated while Martin was doing stand-up Smokey Robinson Aquarius unknown date Please add couple details Nelson Riddle Gemini unknown date Please add couple details David Sanborn Leo unknown date Please add couple details J.D. Souther Scorpio 1973 Please add couple details Albert Brooks Cancer 1974 - 1976 Brooks and Ronstadt lived together for two years in the 70's. From Rolling Stone Interview 1975: "We were in Albert Brooks's house, in the Hollywood Hills: nice place, white walls, lots of recording equipment. Linda moved in last Christmas but has hardly been there; her cartons are still... Robert Plant Leo 1976 Please add couple details Mick Jagger Leo 1977 - 1978 Her name has been linked with Mick Jagger, comedian Bill Murray and Chip Carter, the President's son. When Jagger breezed through L.A., he called and asked her to meet him in Mexico. "That's the sort of thing I couldn't do if I was married to Jerry," she mused. Jerry Brown Aries 1979 Please add couple details Jim Carrey Capricorn 1983 "Linda`s life is equally complicated. She recently stopped dating comedian Jim Carrey, 22, because, according to one friend of his, she refused to stop seeing other men." George Lucas Taurus 1984 www.ronstadt-linda.com/artpeo84.htm
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Post by MokyWI on Aug 7, 2012 17:52:48 GMT -5
Just because two people are in a photo they assume they are dating I guess. Robert Plant....Smokey Robinson? Those two I had never heard thrown out before...David Sanborn?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2021 17:31:01 GMT -5
Covering The Rolling Stones is a dubious task. Good covers take the essential elements of an already great song and elevate them to make something even better. If you’re not going big, why even attempt a cover?
Some of the best singers of the 1960s and ’70s built their careers off of covers. Any song reinterpreted through Joe Cocker’s gritty howl was destined for greatness, as was any song taken on by the titan of soul and rock and roll herself, Tina Turner. Another great interpreter is Linda Ronstadt, whose tiny frame and psychedelic hippie chick style hid an absolutely monumental voice.
Ronstadt had a great way of kicking up her voice into gear, riding the line between singing and yelling to create a signature belting sound that could rattle windows and take down buildings with compromised foundations. Her range oscillated between smokey low notes and glass-shattering high notes, but Ronstadt always made sure to incorporate a fair amount of boogie and rock ‘n’ roll into her repertoire to prevent herself from getting pigeonholed as a ballad singer.
A great example is her take on The Rolling Stones song ‘Tumbling Dice’ from 1972’s legendary Exile on Main St. A couple of hurdles to get over in taking on ‘Tumbling Dice’ include the aforementioned difficulty inherent in covering The Stones, but also the fact that it’s one of the band’s best known and most beloved songs. You’re not giving a new shine to ‘I Just Want to See His Face’ or something: this is big time, A-side single, all-time classic Rolling Stones we’re talking about.
Ronstadt’s big change to the song practically reaches out and slaps you in the face during the first line. The original song had the lascivious lyric “women think I’m tasty” as its opener, a line that Mick Jagger would frequently change to “women think I’m crazy” for most live performances. Ronstadt is much more blunt: “People try to rape me.” It’s a disorienting opener, but it ultimately serves to elevate Ronstadt’s take no shit attitude throughout the song, going bigger and bolder than The Stones ever did. In its own way, it’s very punk rock of Ronstadt to be so frank right upfront.
There’s a great story about Mick Jagger telling Ronstadt that she needed to sing more rock and roll songs. This was at a time when Ronstadt’s biggest hits were covers: the Eagles’ ‘Desperado’, Little Feat’s ‘Willin’, and Willie Nelson’s ‘Crazy’ were all pillars of her setlist, but Jagger wanted something more like ‘You’re No Good’ and suggested she take on ‘Tumbling Dice’, even going so far as to write down the lyrics for her. Ronstadt noticed that quite a few lines differed between Jagger’s recollection and the studio version, so she felt no hesitancy to alter the song to fit her perspective, including that head-turning first line.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Nov 7, 2021 18:44:18 GMT -5
Linda sings "People try to rape me, always think I'm crazy" So it makes sense that Mick sang "Women think I'm tasty, always think I'm crazy" No? eddiejinnj
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2021 5:09:03 GMT -5
Linda sings "People try to rape me, always think I'm crazy" So it makes sense that Mick sang "Women think I'm tasty, always think I'm crazy" No? eddiejinnj If you choose a d/l setting that blocks "mature" content (if set), TD is one of the songs that gets blocked, "Willin' " & "Carmelita" also.
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