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Post by rick on Aug 31, 2022 14:38:11 GMT -5
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Post by PoP80 on Aug 31, 2022 16:57:43 GMT -5
I'm not sure Mick knows the lyrics because they were changed so many times! Obviously, Linda altered them to suit her taste and gender, sort of like a Waring blender. In any case, what a fun collaboration, and Linda's shorts are just the best!!
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Post by eddiejinnj on Sept 1, 2022 6:46:41 GMT -5
She does have some legs. She was jogging quite a bit back then, tmk. I know the TD lyrics. I will look up how much different than the Stones' version.
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Post by Partridge on Jun 16, 2023 2:35:25 GMT -5
Linda sings "People try to rape me, always think I'm crazy" So it makes sense that Mick sang "Women think I'm tasty, always think I'm crazy" No? eddiejinnj The folks at Hit Parader did not hear those lyrics. Here is what they printed in their September 1978 issue:
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 16, 2023 6:14:10 GMT -5
Didn’t Linda change some of the lyrics at start of song? I thought she put “rape” in lyrics but now I am wondering if I am thinking of “Poor Poor Pitiful Me” which she changed lyrics as well, maybe I am confusing the two songs.
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Post by PoP80 on Jun 16, 2023 9:41:51 GMT -5
Didn’t Linda change some of the lyrics at start of song? I thought she put “rape” in lyrics but now I am wondering if I am thinking of “Poor Poor Pitiful Me” which she changed lyrics as well, maybe I am confusing the two songs. You probably misheard the lyrics and thought she said "rape" instead of "break."
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Post by RobGNYC on Jun 16, 2023 10:22:12 GMT -5
She says "rape" and it's on the inner sleeve lyrics.
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 16, 2023 14:58:39 GMT -5
Didn’t Linda change some of the lyrics at start of song? I thought she put “rape” in lyrics but now I am wondering if I am thinking of “Poor Poor Pitiful Me” which she changed lyrics as well, maybe I am confusing the two songs. You probably misheard the lyrics and thought she said "rape" instead of "break." No, she changed the lyrics or used other lyrics the Stones wrote. Check Simple Dreams liner notes.
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Post by musedeva on Jun 16, 2023 15:40:08 GMT -5
that' s how I always sang it.....Mama'cittah knows the Score!
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jun 17, 2023 19:56:09 GMT -5
I never knew it got to number 7 in the US. I was 9 then so maybe I had not developed a refined radar for the top 40 yet. It really to me sounds like a poorly recoded song by the Stones. Like they used really terrible equipment. It doesn't have the flow like Linda's kick butt version. eddiejinnj
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 18, 2023 6:33:42 GMT -5
I never knew it got to number 7 in the US. I was 9 then so maybe I had not developed a refined radar for the top 40 yet. It really to me sounds like a poorly recoded song by the Stones. Like they used really terrible equipment. It doesn't have the flow like Linda's kick butt version. eddiejinnj “Tumbling Dice” barely cracked the top 40 on Billboard. Maybe a rock chart. Oh wait, you are talking about the Stones version. Sorry.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jun 18, 2023 10:41:58 GMT -5
Yeah, Linda's version made number 32, I believe. Both PPPM and Tumbling Dice made the upper to mid 30's on the Top 40. I think what happened with the last two singles is that people had and were continuing to buy the album so they had the songs already. Not sure if radio play had waned which would cause a single to not do as well since they combined sales with radio airplay. eddiejinnj
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Post by erik on Jun 18, 2023 12:31:31 GMT -5
Quote by eddiejinnj:
One other thing that might have kept both "Poor Poor Pitiful Me" and "Tumbling Dice" out of the same rarefied chart airspace of "It's So Easy" and "Blue Bayou" was the continuing and extreme popularity of disco in general, and the soundtrack album of Saturday Night Fever in particular. Top 40 AM radio airplay was swamped by Disco, but that didn't necessarily mean that rock and roll was going to be superceded. Many FM rock radio stations, especially the two that held sway here in L.A. back then, namely KLOS and KMET, held those songs of Linda's in high regard for much of 1978.
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Post by RobGNYC on Jun 18, 2023 12:48:00 GMT -5
"Poor Poor Pitiful Me" and "Tumbling Dice" were the top two "Album Cuts" on the WABC (NYC AM) weekly survey the week that Simple Dreams was the #1 album on the "Top Ten Albums" list (December 6, 1977, survey). The order of the "Album Cuts" list appears to be based on the position of the related album on the "Top Ten Albums" list (Linda, Fleetwood Mac, Billy Joel, ELO, in that order): www.musicradio77.com/Surveys/1977/surveydec677.html
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 18, 2023 17:52:40 GMT -5
"Poor Poor Pitiful Me" and "Tumbling Dice" were the top two "Album Cuts" on the WABC (NYC AM) weekly survey the week that Simple Dreams was the #1 album on the "Top Ten Albums" list (December 6, 1977, survey). The order of the "Album Cuts" list appears to be based on the position of the related album on the "Top Ten Albums" list (Linda, Fleetwood Mac, Billy Joel, ELO, in that order): www.musicradio77.com/Surveys/1977/surveydec677.htmlI personally think it’s best they didn’t get higher on the hot 100. Linda would have been over exposed. Which I feel happened with the release/promotion of USA. That’s just my opinion.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jun 19, 2023 8:44:58 GMT -5
It is definitely not people try to break me but the other. eddiejinnj
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Post by PoP80 on Jun 19, 2023 15:11:17 GMT -5
Then again, the word "frown" was used instead of "crown"
People try to rape me Always think I'm crazy Make me burn the candle right down Baby I can't stay I don't need your jewels in my frown
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Post by RobGNYC on Jun 19, 2023 15:33:50 GMT -5
“Jewels in my frown” didn’t make sense to me in 1977, still doesn’t. What was wrong with the “Queen of Rock” saying “crown”?
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Post by PoP80 on Jun 19, 2023 16:41:33 GMT -5
Five years after the Stones released it, Linda Ronstadt covered it for her Simple Dreams album. Before doing so, she told Hit Parader magazine, her band regularly played it for sound checks but, no surprise: nobody knew the words. She says Jagger wrote out the lyrics for her. Her single was only a modest success, peaking at just #32 on the Hot 100. Interesting, because obviously Linda changed the lyrics quite a bit anyhow. It's turning into a "Louie, Louie" thing...
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Post by Bark 23 on Dec 17, 2023 12:19:23 GMT -5
If she touches on the aspects of how these relationships have impacted her musically (and after all, it was Mr. Jagger's idea that Linda should do something like "Tumbling Dice"), then that wouldn't surprise me. We don't need the sordid, tabloid stuff, and I seriously doubt we'll get it in her memoir. She mentions living with Souther. Living off and on with Brown in her Malibu beach house and his home in LA. Only hint of Lucas in the book is “I was living at Skywalker Ranch.”
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