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Post by FEDUPSTADT on Apr 26, 2017 23:21:18 GMT -5
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Post by musedeva on Apr 26, 2017 23:59:08 GMT -5
forgot to listen to her last night!!! wow...well she's mic'd and amp'd awesomely..but what's cool is HER OWN stamp on it...hearing her own originality but the LINDA power that we want to hear.....
AWESOME....
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Post by musedeva on Apr 27, 2017 0:00:42 GMT -5
its SOOOO dangerous to cover other chicks songs...you really have to change it out and flavor it with a re write of the melody/dynamics....otherwise peoples ears strictly compare you to the original
when a chick covers a guys track...you dont have that innate comparison...she did the best of all of 'em, I'd say
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Post by erik on Apr 27, 2017 8:52:08 GMT -5
I think that danger is multiplied even further by Brennley being only fifteen years old, and having people get the perception that she is not mature enough or has not yet had the kind of life experience to really get into that song.
But then again Linda herself wasn't exactly an old salt when she went into that Nashville studio on a Saturday morning in January 1970 to cut that song, just twenty-three and a half; and according to producer Elliot Mazer, she did two takes of it and then was so exhausted that she fell asleep in the control room.
That song really does take a lot out of whoever does it (IMHO).
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Post by PoP80 on Apr 27, 2017 10:02:49 GMT -5
I didn't mean to come off as overly critical. Brennley did a good job with the song overall. It's just that the Linda has that wonderful cry in her voice which adds to the sincerity and emotion. Nobody can duplicate that and the believability factor that goes along with it.
Also, it was funny that another contestant performed "Heat Wave" the same night!
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Post by fabtastique on Apr 27, 2017 12:31:19 GMT -5
OK voice but didn't like this version of the song I'm afraid
sorry. no comparison to Linda!
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Post by Dianna on Apr 27, 2017 13:54:16 GMT -5
I think that danger is multiplied even further by Brennley being only fifteen years old, and having people get the perception that she is not mature enough or has not yet had the kind of life experience to really get into that song. But then again Linda herself wasn't exactly an old salt when she went into that Nashville studio on a Saturday morning in January 1970 to cut that song, just twenty-three and a half; and according to producer Elliot Mazer, she did two takes of it and then was so exhausted that she fell asleep in the control room. That song really does take a lot out of whoever does it (IMHO). Yes, True Linda too was very young when she came out with LLT.. Some people are also wise beyond their years and just listening to early interviews of Linda you can see that she was beyond her young years. I don't know Brennley, maybe she is a typical 15 yr old kid maybe not .. still 15 is much younger than 23 and Linda herself might not have been ready to sing something like LLT at that age either. Perfect example is Taylor Swift, compare her work at 23 verses Linda's.. big difference. I think Brennley did an okay job....and IMO, it wasn't so much the delivery.. the emotion was there.. my complaint is more the tone...
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Post by the Scribe on Apr 27, 2017 15:08:04 GMT -5
I was wondering why all those people were waving their hands. It is the most bizarre thing I ever saw. Maybe it is common these days?
I think her rendition was heartfelt but it is difficult to judge when someone does a Ronstadt song, especially if Linda was the original artist. Even Linda's covers often become the definitive version. So this girl has spunk to even try. I think her youth and delivery makes it quite believable especially on the second or third listen. First time no.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Apr 27, 2017 15:51:50 GMT -5
I think especially for her age she held it together pretty well. Some nice phrasing some areas not as good but a more than competent performance. Did they mention Linda re: Heat Wave? eddiejinnj
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Post by PoP80 on Apr 27, 2017 16:02:55 GMT -5
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Post by erik on Apr 27, 2017 18:53:02 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
Obviously there is room for improvement, that's for sure; and I agree to a large degree that her vocal tone wasn't exactly what it could be. Still, given how difficult this song is to sing (the choice may have been Gwen Stefani's suggestion, which is in and of itself remarkable in a way [IMHO]) and given her youth, Brennley did show how serious she was about giving it her best. Of course, it would be all but impossible to expect Linda redux, but we've seen worse...a lot worse.
In terms of Taylor, I am beginning to seriously wonder if she has any intentions of ever growing up, both just as a woman (which she is supposed to be by now at 27) and as a singer (she is still so catastrophically stuck in her teens, with a weak and irritating voice). It goes without saying that Taylor isn't, and probably never will be (unless she shapes up in a hurry), in Linda's league when it comes to female singers. She may also, however, be behind even the really young and daring teen from the high desert here in Southern California named Brennley Brown.
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Post by Dianna on Apr 27, 2017 19:57:21 GMT -5
I was wondering why all those people were waving their hands. It is the most bizarre thing I ever saw. Maybe it is common these days?
It is common. LOL.. Like when people waved or held lighters up at concerts. lol
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Post by Dianna on Apr 27, 2017 20:09:50 GMT -5
Still, given how difficult this song is to sing (the choice may have been Gwen Stefani's suggestion, which is in and of itself remarkable in a way [IMHO]) a. I don't find it remarkable or shocking.. Gwen's parents were/are folk music fans and she did compliment Emmy Lou Harris on VH1 100 Women of Rock and Roll, called her "a goddess." Maybe it was a collaboration between Gwen and Blake lol because he did mention Linda's name when he commented on Brennley...
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Post by Partridge on Apr 27, 2017 23:05:26 GMT -5
Long Long Time is a lengthy song with a lot of verses. The song suffers when it has to be cut down to a minute and a half for a competition where you have to hit certain marks in a limited time. Really not enough time to sell a song like this. I suppose this contestant's iTunes version of the song would be a full performance; does anyone know?
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Post by Partridge on Apr 27, 2017 23:12:36 GMT -5
Linda wasn't mentioned on "Heat Wave" because it was more of a Motown (on steroids) version. I sort of thought the steroids part of the performance was borrowed from Linda's version of the song. In the past few years, they have done Linda's versions of many songs without mentioning her. Sometimes they mention the original artist, sometimes another hit version. But most every year someone does "A Song For You" and never gives any credit to Leon Russell (or even the Carpenters).
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Post by erik on Apr 27, 2017 23:14:31 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
...and that Bromeister Blake even mentioned Linda's name at all is a first, to my knowledge.
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Post by the Scribe on Apr 27, 2017 23:15:29 GMT -5
Seems they didn't mention Linda when Allison Porter sang Blue Bayou which was clearly Linda's arrangement albeit shortened. Loved her performance though.
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Post by Dianna on Apr 28, 2017 0:54:42 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna: ...and that Bromeister Blake even mentioned Linda's name at all is a first, to my knowledge. Yes, I did hear Blake mention Linda's full name.. I'll check my dvr and get the exact wording. Erik, this isn't the first time Blake has mentioned Linda Ronstadt...
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Post by Dianna on Apr 28, 2017 0:55:51 GMT -5
Long Long Time is a lengthy song with a lot of verses. The song suffers when it has to be cut down to a minute and a half for a competition where you have to hit certain marks in a limited time. Really not enough time to sell a song like this. I suppose this contestant's iTunes version of the song would be a full performance; does anyone know? I think so Tony. I'll check it out.
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Post by Dianna on Apr 28, 2017 1:05:44 GMT -5
Seems they didn't mention Linda when Allison Porter sang Blue Bayou which was clearly Linda's arrangement albeit shortened. Loved her performance though. Rob when Allison sang Blue Bayou that was during "the blind audition" you know when they turn their chairs around if they like what they hear and try to get the singer on their team. I don't know if that makes a difference, probably not.. but when they begin performing for audience votes, the coaches get involved in helping them choose material and help push them in right direction musically.. so for comparison, the original artist name might be used.. You're no Good was also used a few seasons ago and they did mention Linda's name.
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Post by Dianna on Apr 28, 2017 1:09:59 GMT -5
Long Long Time is a lengthy song with a lot of verses. The song suffers when it has to be cut down to a minute and a half for a competition where you have to hit certain marks in a limited time. Really not enough time to sell a song like this. I suppose this contestant's iTunes version of the song would be a full performance; does anyone know? Here is the studio version.. I assume the itunes version as well..
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Post by Dianna on Apr 28, 2017 1:36:36 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna: ...and that Bromeister Blake even mentioned Linda's name at all is a first, to my knowledge. In Order This is what was said: Announcer Carson Daily :Coming up Brennley Brown puts a modern twist on a Linda Ronstadt song. Enters Brennley Brown to meet coach Gwen and guest coast Shania Twain Shania Twain "I love this song" (about Long Long Time) Gwen "This is a song people adore" Song is performed Coaches comments Blake: Blah blah blah... I will say to you a voice like that and a Linda Ronstadt song. Gwen: "All day long I think about you and listening to country music trying to find songs for you." So Erik, evidently Gwen picked this one out for her.
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Post by muse on Apr 29, 2017 16:25:10 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna: ...and that Bromeister Blake even mentioned Linda's name at all is a first, to my knowledge. In Order This is what was said: Announcer Carson Daily :Coming up Brennley Brown puts a modern twist on a Linda Ronstadt song. Enters Brennley Brown to meet coach Gwen and guest coast Shania Twain Shania Twain "I love this song" (about Long Long Time) Gwen "This is a song people adore" Song is performed Coaches comments Blake: Blah blah blah... I will say to you a voice like that and a Linda Ronstadt song. Gwen: "All day long I think about you and listening to country music trying to find songs for you." So Erik, evidently Gwen picked this one out for her.
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Post by musedeva on Apr 29, 2017 16:39:55 GMT -5
Woops!!
i don't have tv...so i don't keep up with all the contests/new vocals..but FOR any musical "program" to not give props to Linda...issss SOOOO disrespectfulll...hope people comment on their website/youtube postings for their shows at least
WHY isn't LINDA judging some of these shows?? I think she'd really like it...and she would receive the PROPS she deserves from the newbies!!!
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Post by the Scribe on Apr 29, 2017 17:04:38 GMT -5
Woops!! i don't have tv...so i don't keep up with all the contests/new vocals..but FOR any musical "program" to not give props to Linda...issss SOOOO disrespectfulll...hope people comment on their website/youtube postings for their shows at least WHY isn't LINDA judging some of these shows?? I think she'd really like it...and she would receive the PROPS she deserves from the newbies!!! Linda hates these shows. Something about competition being for horse races and not for art or music. (or something like that) I wonder what she felt about Star Search? The audience judged there. But is this show about music or art or is it about what a judge likes? And isn't the music business basically about what an audience likes and they vote with their pocketbook? There seems to be a fine line there somewhere but those who participate seem to have no issue with it. Those whom it makes it uneasy don't and they too could end up famous without the contest. The contest is only a tool or shortcut to the much heralded fame and fortune. They are using the show as much as the show is using them, if not more. And maybe I don't know what I am talking about lol. Not a first.
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Post by Tony on Apr 29, 2017 20:05:03 GMT -5
"The Voice" is all about promoting the celebrity judges. They are the only ones becoming more successful. The contestants are just filler waiting for the Bickersons (Adam and Blake) to go at it again.
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Post by Dianna on Apr 29, 2017 20:53:10 GMT -5
"The Voice" is all about promoting the celebrity judges. They are the only ones becoming more successful. The contestants are just filler waiting for the Bickersons (Adam and Blake) to go at it again. www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/voice-winner-fights-back-against-clueless-record-label-executives/The show hasn't produced a mega star like other voice competition shows.. I follow a couple of previous winners and they do tour a lot. Last seasons winner Sundance Head opened for Blake recently...I don't think the lack of exposure has anything to do with the show itself, it's as if they hand them over to the record executives and it's all in their hands.. Here is an article I read a few years back about past winner, Craig Wayne Boyd explains about the clueless music executives. Here’s a rare journalistic event, a feel-good story about a lawyer who saved someone’s career from the seventh layer of hell. Craig Wayne Boyd won “The Voice” in December. His victory came with a music contract. But when Boyd showed up at the music label, executives didn’t know what was going on. “I haven’t said anything in the press previously, but” Boyd recalled with a laugh, “they said, ‘You’re who and you’re what?'” Boyd (who will perform Friday in Sunset Station hotel) had survived the zombie music industry for a decade before he went on “The Voice.” So he was prepared for music executives to be clueless. He was lawyered up from the start. “It’s solely because of the attorney I picked,” the country singer said. “It’s the one we chose while we were on ‘The Voice.’ I brought him on as our attorney, and he’s done quite well for other artists in the pop world and the dance world, with DJs. “This was his first venture in country music. But entertainment is entertainment. He had a lot of things he brought to the table and helped me navigate through all of the crazy contracts that were there, and we were able to get out of them.” Boom, take that, idiotic music industry. “The Voice” judge Adam Levine was the first person from the show who went public (on Howard Stern’s radio show last Tuesday) in criticizing the stupidheads who have been ruining the careers of musicians forever. “We do so much great (expletive) for these singers, and then they go to a record label that I won’t mention. But they go to a record label that (expletives) it up,” Levine said to Stern listeners. How did Boyd feel about Levine’s speaking up? “I’m excited that someone has stepped up and said something,” Boyd said. “It’s something they (at ‘The Voice’) had talked to us about at length while we were on the show.” Boyd refused to be a victim. After his initial problems at that music label, Boyd flexed his muscles. “That’s when I knew I was going to have to — as I’ve always done in my career — keep a strong hold on what I’m doing,” he said. “I told my management, ‘Listen guys, we’re going to do this our way. If (record execs) catch up and they keep up with us, then awesome. And if they don’t, we’re going to move forward.’ “That’s been our mindset from the get-go, and it has worked really well for us.” Fortunately, the people at “The Voice” had him back on this year to perform, “for me to be able to go on and tell people, ‘Hey listen, I’m still here. You’re not going to get rid of me that easy.'” Now he’s working on happily-ever-after. “I went in and recorded an album on my own,” he said. “We just finished up the album. We’re looking at putting out a single off of this album to major market radio, and we’re solidifying radio teams — some of the best in the country — but it takes time to put those kinds of things together.” What’s his advice to beginning musicians after surviving 12 years in the industry? “You have to be hot, and you have to find ways to be relevant. The show brought that relevancy back to me. And without having the support of the label that was put in my hands, I knew I had to find more support quickly and bring relevancy back. “So we went back on ‘The Voice,’ and pushed and fought for that to happen, so we could keep our relevancy there. “It’s a lot of hard work, but the satisfaction of that is seeing smiling faces at the end of the day. That’s one thing I’ve enjoyed this year is getting out and meeting the people that voted for me, in person. “Now is the time we’re moving forward from not just being a TV personality but moving on to be, hopefully, a staple in country music.”
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Post by musedeva on Apr 30, 2017 14:52:56 GMT -5
A lawyer saving somebody from hell!!....how novel an idea....the kid was smart to have an advocate and working like heck to remain in the scene....what's left of it..... .... basically feeding off the corporate shreds of commercial crumbs on the floor
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Post by the Scribe on Apr 30, 2017 16:12:38 GMT -5
Where is Craig Wayne Boyd today? Is he still around and successful? I am so out of the music listening business except for the few crumbs you guys share here. The talent out there today seems endless but life and lawyers can get in the way. I had a girlfriend once whose voice was a cross between Linda Ronstadt and Karen Carpenter and every bit as good as both combined. While she had some inner drive to succeed she didn't have enough nor the $$ it takes to keep going. When someone like Linda breaks through that ceiling it helps everyone but even then there are some who just have bad luck or no luck and have no connections or support. And the dream ends.
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Post by Dianna on Apr 30, 2017 17:34:51 GMT -5
Where is Craig Wayne Boyd today? Is he still around and successful? I am so out of the music listening business except for the few crumbs you guys share here. The talent out there today seems endless but life and lawyers can get in the way. I had a girlfriend once whose voice was a cross between Linda Ronstadt and Karen Carpenter and every bit as good as both combined. While she had some inner drive to succeed she didn't have enough nor the $$ it takes to keep going. When someone like Linda breaks through that ceiling it helps everyone but even then there are some who just have bad luck or no luck and have no connections or support. And the dream ends. Rob.. even Linda has said she doesn't understand todays music industry.... that it has changed so much from when she was out there. It has always fascinated me how artists get that big break. As far as Craig Wayne Boyd, I don't follow him but I think he does tour a lot and he has a nice size following. Not big hit records from what I can see. Maybe your girlfriend didn't want it on a professional level.. there are lots of talented people .. I know I always wanted to be a singer, and was encouraged by others.. but I wanted to sing private for my own listening and fun.. I decided I am waaay to self conscious and self critical to have others watch me... so that was a big deal breaker.. There are lots of talented people for whatever reasons who don't do anything with their talents. I know Linda has said she doesn't like people watching her either.. it disturbs her.. I'm thinking, obviously it didn't bother her that much because having stage fright is very hard to over come, at least for some people.
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