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Post by Cornish Pirate on Jun 22, 2012 15:59:31 GMT -5
For the benefit of ronstadtfanaz (and anyone else  ) here's Linda appearing in the 1977 Dutch made documentary 'Wonderland', edited into one clip. The song clips are well known but are worth including here for completeness. Note the whole programme was recorded on film and not videotape. The clip is 12 minutes so is fairly large, and what's more they spelt her name right too. ;D 1977 Linda In Wonderland (wmv, 480x360, 68MB) Alan |
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jun 22, 2012 17:24:01 GMT -5
cool house and to think she bought it for like 225k at the time!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 22, 2012 21:24:55 GMT -5
Alan, that was fantastic, more than fantastic. Your editing is superb. I am in love all over again!!! Linda's persona is so cute, charming, heart warming and intelligent. I love her insight into the music culture at the time and her performances here are some of the best on youtube. Lose Again is brought to a whole new level with video. Her house looked pretty clean too. No black hole of Calcutta there!
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Post by cymru56 on Jun 23, 2012 19:09:30 GMT -5
Thanks Alan.
Though I've seen the clips before, to have them as one is a treat.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 23, 2012 19:47:15 GMT -5
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 25, 2012 1:26:04 GMT -5
That is what beach houses often look like. They are usually geared towards getting as much of the house facing the ocean as possible. I have seen many houses like that atop the dunes on the East Coast as well. One usually wants to leave town when the big storms roll in as many usually find their homes in the ocean or in the bay after it is all over.
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 25, 2012 10:05:53 GMT -5
dianna, the picture you provided a link to is not Ronstadt's old beach house. I think the one you provided the link to once belonged to Larry Hagman. Ronstadt's is the white one in the lower right side of the 4 square in Cornish Pirate's post that began this thread. The one with the french doors on the second floor that lead out to a walkway that over looked her patio that she was walking through in the video where that guy was doing construction.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 25, 2012 11:07:57 GMT -5
Oh, I did a google search, and that house came up. Yeah, I can see, Linda's was more of a white.. I wonder what the home looks like now. I've seen all those houses, in malibu and living in so ca for most of my life, I am used to seeing beach houses, whether in newport beach, laguna, san juan capistrano.. san diego, ect or malibu, santa barbara, carmel, monterrey ect.. what I am saying is, I don't care for that particular style of house back then... homes are much more beautiful today, IMO.. even the older homes from turn of the century or older (the ones have been refurbished ) I have seen are even more beautiful now as oppossed to then.. landscape, interior, exterior, colors ect.. the art aspect of it.. unlike music, which I think, has gotten worse. Home styles and Decor from the 70's and 80's was pretty ugly. imo
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 25, 2012 13:08:21 GMT -5
Oh, I did a google search, and that house came up. Yeah, I can see, Linda's was more of a white.. I wonder what the home looks like now. I've seen all those houses, in malibu and living in so ca for most of my life, I am used to seeing beach houses, whether in newport beach, laguna, san juan capistrano.. san diego, ect or malibu, santa barbara, carmel, monterrey ect.. what I am saying is, I don't care for that particular style of house back then... homes are much more beautiful today, IMO.. even the older homes from turn of the century or older (the ones have been refurbished ) I have seen are even more beautiful now as oppossed to then.. landscape, interior, exterior, colors ect.. the art aspect of it.. unlike music, which I think, has gotten worse. Home styles and Decor from the 70's and 80's was pretty ugly. imo The 70s get a pretty bad rap for almost everything, even homes, but one could find ugly houses in any decade. Mike Nesmith lived in a house whose exterior I thought was very ugly. It looked a giant two story cube. The inside of the house though was a different story. Gorgeous. If all you saw was the interior and never the exterior, you'd think the exterior was just as gorgeous instead of a monstrosity. It was up for sell a few years ago and the then-current owner was wanting something like three million for the house. Linda's house was much nicer looking by comparison. More modest looking, too - not of Graceland proportions or Neverland proportions. I wonder who owns the house now? |
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Post by Dianna on Jun 25, 2012 17:20:25 GMT -5
Slide, Graceland is a perfect example.. Beautiful house on the outside (and for a mere 100,000 back then) but the inside is horrible and gaudy.. I think Linda (for my taste lol) was always on the right path, she seems to lean more towards cozy or cottage like... like that needlepoint chair she picked up off the curb somewhere in SF, had it redone and it went beautifully with her mission style tucson decor. She has a good eye.
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 25, 2012 17:29:49 GMT -5
Graceland looks like a funeral parlor to me.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 25, 2012 17:47:53 GMT -5
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 26, 2012 1:42:27 GMT -5
Slide, Graceland is a perfect example.. Beautiful house on the outside (and for a mere 100,000 back then) but the inside is horrible and gaudy.. I think Linda (for my taste lol) was always on the right path, she seems to lean more towards cozy or cottage like... like that needlepoint chair she picked up off the curb somewhere in SF, had it redone and it went beautifully with her mission style tucson decor. She has a good eye. I've never been to Graceland, have no interest in going there as Elvis is no longer there and hasn't been there since 1977. About his home post-August 16, 1977, horrible and gaudy are two words I've heard associated with the inside of the home but the inside of the house isn't exactly as he left it in August of 1977. They've made several changes over the years since Elvis's passing and as I think very few people actually saw the inside of the house while he was living, I think those who have seen the inside of the house after his death have come away with the false impression that the way it was after death and up to now was exactly as Elvis had left it. But, it's not. The way it looks now is the way the estate and its managers assume Elvis would've wanted the house to look like, but it's just their tastes accenting Elvis's personal belongings and not Elvis's tastes. And that's the thing. Even if Graceland during Elvis's time here was horrible and gaudy as far as tastes go, that's what you would've wanted to have seen. Not someone's interpretation of what they thought Elvis would've liked. You would've wanted to have gotten a sense of his spirit, who he was as a human being rather than the King of Rock and Roll persona. Graceland today isn't an accurate reflection of who Elvis was in his lifetime. It's a museum. Would he have approved? I've got my doubts. I'd rather like Linda's tastes as well, but who knows how many people if they toured any of the homes she lived in with some of her own personal property, could possibly say the exact same thing about her tastes? Gaudy and horrible. Certain people have the false impression that an Elvis Presley or a Linda Ronstadt live or lived in a grand, exotic style, never once thinking their homes might be a little more down to earth, more ordinary than extraordinary. And I guess that can be a huge let down for some, disappointed that an Elvis or Linda as a person didn't live up to their perceived image. |
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Post by erik on Jun 26, 2012 8:48:52 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker:
People who have a cliched idea of the lifestyles of the rich and famous might be let down by the way Linda's house looks in that Wonderland video, but then again, others might have been put off if she had flaunted all that wealth of hers around; and fortunately, she doesn't--either on the house, or on herself. She tries to live as close to a normal life as she can given her chosen profession, and that's a lot more than you can say for some others in the entertainment business.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 26, 2012 10:39:17 GMT -5
I never ever got that impression of Linda, that she lived this exotic or extreme and phony kardashian like lol lifestyle. Not once you can just tell the way she is by listening to her and her style fits her perfectly. cute, warm and cozy. I was actually a bit surprised at her tucson bedroom, it was a little more frilly than what I'd expect from her. Now, Elvis, as much as I love him, Graceland and it's decor, whether he chose it or now, fits him too.. but in a good way, if that makes sense. I mean, Elvis, was over the top
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Post by erik on Jun 26, 2012 12:39:42 GMT -5
Quote by dianna:
With Linda, I think she never felt the need to pile it on because she had come from an upper-middle-class upbringing, but also an extremely modest disposition. Granted her Arizona digs were a bit plush, but it still fit her Southwestern roots.
As for Elvis--well, one must remind themselves that he went from extreme, abject poverty in Mississippi to extreme wealth in Memphis in a very short time. All that Graceland became was both his way not to be reminded of that hard life, and also a reminder of the fact that he was easily and (at times) dangerously bored with the way things went with his career in the 1960s, and pretty much after 1973.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 26, 2012 14:14:44 GMT -5
Speaking of homes.. Did Linda also live in Brentwood near Rockingham (the simpson house)? I remember she mentioned Nicole Brown Simpson during the O.J. trial.. they'd walk their dogs.. together..
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 26, 2012 15:43:24 GMT -5
Speaking of homes.. Did Linda also live in Brentwood near Rockingham (the simpson house)? I remember she mentioned Nicole Brown Simpson during the O.J. trial.. they'd walk their dogs.. together.. That would be incredibly interesting fodder for her memoir along with her propinquity to Charles Manson in the earlier years. Anything she could give us about those years and location would be great. I think that whole time period and the Canyon location is legendary on the verge of mythic and will eventually become a popular focus by the public for years to come. |
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 26, 2012 19:30:46 GMT -5
Ronstadt's house on Jackson in Pacific Heights was her fanciest, and even it was modest compared to most of those around it. The house she lives in San Fran today is common compared to the one on Jackson, though it still is a very nice home. If you google you can see photos of it while it was for sale right before she bought it. It is very intrusive to be checking out her home but homes speak of their owner when they can afford to choose the one they want. The older Ronstadt gets the less she seems to need, which means the person is on the right track IMO. MORE means MORE...upkeep, worry, bills...
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Post by Dianna on Jun 28, 2012 14:41:48 GMT -5
Ronstadt's house on Jackson in Pacific Heights was her fanciest, and even it was modest compared to most of those around it. The house she lives in San Fran today is common compared to the one on Jackson, though it still is a very nice home. If you google you can see photos of it while it was for sale right before she bought it. It is very intrusive to be checking out her home but homes speak of their owner when they can afford to choose the one they want. The older Ronstadt gets the less she seems to need, which means the person is on the right track IMO. MORE means MORE...upkeep, worry, bills... wow, houses are still very very expensive, and esp in ca (san fran and la/oc esp) Linda did mention this.(high cost) That newer san fran home, around 2 mil, (and I choke when saying this) was probably more in her budget. I don't know what her needs are these days or if she needs more or less.. but she chose a very very expensive area in the US to live.. (from Tucson) to SF it's all about location. |
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 28, 2012 16:18:11 GMT -5
I am sure she can afford it and like everyone else deserves to be happy in her final years.
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 29, 2012 11:21:03 GMT -5
wow, houses are still very very expensive, and esp in ca (san fran and la/oc esp) Linda did mention this.(high cost) That newer san fran home, around 2 mil, (and I choke when saying this) was probably more in her budget. I don't know what her needs are these days or if she needs more or less.. but she chose a very very expensive area in the US to live.. (from Tucson) to SF it's all about location.
I tend to think the housing market is one very overpriced market. I recall Linda was taken aback by how expensive homes in the San Francisco area had gotten but I didn't think San Francisco was that much different from any other location in the US. Like what seems to be the case on everything else going on in the US with the cost of living, the cost of housing is way out of proportion to the wages earned. Of course, Linda probably paid cash and likely didn't have to take out a mortgage, so she probably wouldn't have to worry about that count. But, should she ever decide to sell and relocate again, I'd hope she'd get what she paid for it although there are hundreds if thousands of stories about homes whose value have decreased considerably from their selling price.
I don't know what her needs are either but I recall reading on her wikipedia entry that when her adopted son Carlos turned 18 earlier this year, he sought out his birth parents, found them, took their last name and I guess moved out to be with them. I had to wonder how Linda felt about that if the entry was true? Was it with her blessing or was it a bitter slap in the face? I haven't read anything on whether her adopted daughter Mary still lives at home with her or has moved out but if Linda is the only one living in the home, well, ir may be more than what she needs but it may just be what she likes.
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Post by fabtastique on Jun 29, 2012 12:13:57 GMT -5
Wow, how awful about her son....
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 29, 2012 12:53:06 GMT -5
That sounds like something a "hater" would put on there for a laugh if you ask me. I wouldn't put money on it if I were you.
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 29, 2012 13:20:17 GMT -5
That sounds like something a "hater" would put on there for a laugh if you ask me. I wouldn't put money on it if I were you. Given there isn't much info to be found as to the validity of the story, I don't know that it's true. But, the bad part is, I don't know that it's false either. I know adopted children often seek out their biological parents for various reasons including knowing who they really are, what medical issues they may need to know about, what other siblings they may have, et al. If the story is true, Carlos may have sought out his birth parents with Linda's knowledge, encouragement and blessing. I'd certainly hope so but the other side of that coin is that if true and Linda didn't know about it, I think it would be a slap in the face because she gave him 18 years of her life to raise him. But, here again, given it's an entry on wikipedia and a lot of stuff posted there has never been verified as to the accuracy, it's possible a hater could've posted the info just to get a rise out of people. But, you have to think who was the hater hoping would see the info? Linda? Or members of her family or friends or someone they thought could get the info back to Linda in some way? My guess is that if that was the case, they wasted their time as I couldn't see Linda giving two bits about what was written on her wikipedia entry. I couldn't even see her even knowing what wikipedia is, given she's not into computers (or says she's not into them). |
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 29, 2012 13:50:41 GMT -5
Just had another look at the wikipedia entry for Linda. The reference to her son has been modified to where it just says he took the last names of his birth parents. The part about Carlos moving out and moving closer to his birth parents is no longer there. As with all wikipedia entries, never any indication who put it there in the first place or who removed it or why.
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Post by erik on Jun 29, 2012 14:15:14 GMT -5
Just something that Linda, if she feels the need to, will detail in her memoir (IMHO).
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 29, 2012 16:46:06 GMT -5
Mark Islam told me that Ronstadt Generations was visiting up in San Francisco with Linda and her children, in fact, he mentioned a performance in San Jose that Carlos and Mary were going to be part of, so I am pretty sure what is on Wiki is bull. When I was in line for a Jimmy Webb show with Mark at the Roxy in LA there were people behind who were speaking of Linda like they knew her, she had just adopted Carlos and they mentioned it was an open adoption. They also spoke of the heartache she went through when the child she was adopting fell apart, before she adopted her son, after she did her daughter. If anything he found his birth parent/parents and she knows and is/was supporting of it. The fact that some put it like he dropped Linda to return to his birth parents at the age of 18...on wiki...it's bull from a "hater" most likely, and if it is anything Carlos found his birth parent/s and she helped him do so. I feel like I am over stepping and repeating something Mark told me, but I can't not say something with people starting to write negative crap. You can be sure Ronstadt wants her life with her children private so maybe we should drop it and move on
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 29, 2012 16:50:53 GMT -5
Ronstadt Generations has done several of Mark's shows in LA and Mark doesn't talk bull, this conversation we had via email was when the band was up in San Fran with her days before they were performing at Marks show in LA. The last one Ronstadt Generations appeared at.
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Post by djay on Jun 29, 2012 16:52:13 GMT -5
The business about Linda's son seems like hogwash to me. In the first place, the reference cited on Wikipedia is a Sept. 1997 article from the San Fransico Chronicle. Even if you look past the fact that an 18 year-old was 3 years old at the time--unlikely to even contemplate the notion of "birth parents", the article is still availabe online: the only information about Linda's children are their first names.
If there were no source it all, this could at least qualify as an unseemly rumor. Since the source cited is erroneous, however, its just a good old-fashioned fabrication.
Kudos to Linda for keeping her family out of the limelight and the foolishness that comes with it.
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) here's Linda appearing in the 1977 Dutch made documentary 'Wonderland', edited into one clip. The song clips are well known but are worth including here for completeness. Note the whole programme was recorded on film and not videotape. The clip is 12 minutes so is fairly large, and what's more they spelt her name right too. ;D
