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Post by the Scribe on Apr 29, 2013 15:23:41 GMT -5
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Post by sliderocker on Apr 29, 2013 15:35:06 GMT -5
Not only the voice but their mannerisms and even words they use /expressions... it is very freaky to me. I've noticed this for awhile too. This is beginning to make me wonder if the Bushes and Bundy had an ancestor common to both of them? I think it's possible as I had to wonder that about myself and another person I was no relation to, yet who was a dead ringer for me. That person was the ex-husband of a former coworker, who I took home one day and who had been telling me I was a ringer for her ex. I kept thinking yeah, right. But, she wanted to show me the photo of her ex, and I figured humor her. While she was looking for the photo, her (now late) daughter came home, looked at me and freaked as she thought I was her dad.The coworker brought out the photos and the resemblance was extremely eerie. Except for the fact I was ten years older than her ex, her ex and I could've been identical mirror twins separated at birth. Who the common ancestor might've been, I don't know, but I'd guess many of us are related because there are so many of us while there were so few of our ancestors.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Apr 29, 2013 18:04:10 GMT -5
getting back on topic. thanks much for the vid posts. viewing the first one and you do get the answer to another member's question about some of Linda's thoughts on rock and roll. that is was dominated by men. she discussed the angry tone and feelings involved. some excellent and compassionate insights on her part. eddiejinnj
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Post by the Scribe on Apr 29, 2013 20:38:29 GMT -5
getting back on topic. thanks much for the vid posts. viewing the first one and you do get the answer to another member's question about some of Linda's thoughts on rock and roll. that is was dominated by men. she discussed the angry tone and feelings involved. some excellent and compassionate insights on her part. eddiejinnj One thing most people forget is how different the times were then than they are now. It was a whole different paradigm. A different world. Linda truly was a trailblazer and I was thinking the other day was there any other woman in Rock that made men go gaga like Linda? Any that were considered really hot? I couldn't think of any except for Olivia but she wasn't so much a Rocker as was Linda. To this day I can't think of any. While Madonna was a huge success she wasn't really Rock and she was more attractive to women or young girls than to men. Am I wrong? Anyone have someone else in mind that I may have missed?
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Post by Dianna on Apr 29, 2013 22:18:45 GMT -5
well in terms of beauty and superstar, Linda was certainly one of the hottest rock superstar singers from her era .. but there were others tambien.....Blondie's Deborah Harry and Stevie Nicks..I think Pat Benatar, little girls were more attracted to her style and take no crap tude. This dude I dated back when Madonna was popular loved her, as I recall a few of my guy friends thought Madonna was real hot... infact, the first guy. one time I had a people magazine out, and showed him a picture of Linda walking through the airport.. and her hair was growing out.(I've since looked for that photo and have never seen it again.. here or elsewhere) . probably mid to late 80's and he made a face.. lol.. I guess Linda wasn't his cup of tea....can't be a generation thing. because I will say my 2 brothers.. same age group.. thought Linda was really pretty.. could be a blonde vs brunette thing
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Post by JasonKlose on Apr 29, 2013 23:07:46 GMT -5
well in terms of beauty and superstar, Linda was certainly one of the hottest rock superstar singers from her era .. but there were others tambien.....Blondie's Deborah Harry and Stevie Nicks..I think Pat Benatar, little girls were more attracted to her style and take no crap tude. This dude I dated back when Madonna was popular loved her, as I recall a few of my guy friends thought Madonna was real hot... infact, the first guy. one time I had a people magazine out, and showed him a picture of Linda walking through the airport.. and her hair was growing out.(I've since looked for that photo and have never seen it again.. here or elsewhere) . probably mid to late 80's and he made a face.. lol.. I guess Linda wasn't his cup of tea....can't be a generation thing. because I will say my 2 brothers.. same age group.. thought Linda was really pretty.. could be a blonde vs brunette thing There were a number of other attractive women in music back in the '70s, but none of them catch my eye quite like Linda does. I just think she had a certain unique look about her......that perfect combination of beautiful, sexy, sultry, but with a cute, innocent, little girl look. It drives me crazy. I'm sure most men felt that way. I do know some men who aren't into her. My two brothers for instance.....they're older than me.....44 and 46. I believe they think she was cute, but nothing much beyond that. And you're right......it can't be a generation thing. I have a co-worker and friend who is 22 years old. I sort of introduced him to Linda.......I burned a couple CDs for him. He loved her music and said he knew some of the songs from listening to his mom and dad's music. But he didn't know what Linda looked like. I told him to Google her, so he did. He said he saw her revealing "Hasten Down the Wind" album cover, and several other pictures from the '70s and '80s. His words: "That girl is so freakin' gorgeous! She's really hot!" So you see......she's turned on more than one generation of men. But some men do have different tastes......either you're into her or you aren't.
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Post by Dianna on Apr 29, 2013 23:43:45 GMT -5
could be a maryanne ginger thing too. I think Linda had a very sweet girl next door appeal. yep, everyone has different tastes.. I think my b/f feels the same way about dimi moore as you and others here feel about about Linda! ha
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Post by musicaamator on Apr 30, 2013 7:29:15 GMT -5
Agreed with what has been said on appealing rock women, because for me, Stevie Nicks was it back in the day, with a little bit of ONJ, Benetar and Hydne thrown in! But having seen pictures of Linda and to know that that face had a great voice and wonderful songs along with it, says that Linda was more than just a pretty face. And I think that showed with her fandom, awards and records sold.
It's just a drag I was late in discovering her.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Apr 30, 2013 17:25:17 GMT -5
your avatar is a hot pic of her music, lol!!!!!!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by musicaamator on May 1, 2013 8:34:26 GMT -5
your avatar is a hot pic of her music, lol!!!!!!!! eddiejinnj Thanks! I love that picture too! (Well, one of several pics of Linda!)
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Post by the Scribe on May 2, 2013 11:58:22 GMT -5
It is kind of amazing how one person can look so totally different in different photos. It is almost like Linda is a "shapeshifter."
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Post by Belle on Jul 26, 2014 15:11:24 GMT -5
I just read Linda's book again (during a bout of illness) and was doing a search for her house on Rockingham Drive that she mentions quite frequently in the book. Found this site and realized I had joined it last year and forgot about it. Watched the Wonderland 2007 video clip at the start of this thread, it made me wonder if the repair to her beach house was after the storms that tore it up?
Tried to watch the link above (from Linda2006) and it has been removed from youtube.
I don't know what her needs are either but I recall reading on her wikipedia entry that when her adopted son Carlos turned 18 earlier this year, he sought out his birth parents, found them, took their last name and I guess moved out to be with them. I had to wonder how Linda felt about that if the entry was true? Was it with her blessing or was it a bitter slap in the face? I haven't read anything on whether her adopted daughter Mary still lives at home with her or has moved out but if Linda is the only one living in the home, well, ir may be more than what she needs but it may just be what she likes. For the record, Carlos is still at home with Linda, he met his birth family earlier this year. His girlfriend is going away to college soon and he will be leaving home to be with HER, not to leave Linda. I try not to blab what I've learned online but this BS is just tooo much for me to be quiet!!!!!! GRRRRRR!!!!! Oh, and he got a tattoo earlier this year with his birth AND adopted surnames! I'm not even going to look at that stupid wikipedia, let alone edit it. Sorry if I've said too much.... The mods or I'll delete it if they wish
Post-book Linda did some interviews in which she mentioned "her children", so I think it's safe to say both are still in her life. She seems to be so open minded and honest--and accepting of the choices her loved ones make (both friends and family). That attitude is woven throughout her book, and I just love that about her.
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Post by jcx238 on Nov 27, 2015 11:37:04 GMT -5
Thanks for this edit, Cornish Pirate - I got here through searching for this doc - it's so no where to be found! I used to have it in my youtube "playlist" before it got taken down - I am wondering if the fact that you made an edit of the Linda stuff might mean that you possibly have the rest of it - because I would definitely want to get that somehow!
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Post by jcx238 on Nov 27, 2015 11:43:48 GMT -5
(oh - and I just joined this forum for real - it's about time!)
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Post by eddiejinnj on Nov 27, 2015 12:31:10 GMT -5
welcome!!!!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by Nobody's Nobody on Nov 27, 2015 22:13:33 GMT -5
Got the whole video here. It's unlisted on YT until I put the link up here. Got in trouble a while back with YT for posting LR SNL video, and had to take the YT copyright sensitivity course.
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Post by Nobody's Nobody on Nov 27, 2015 22:39:29 GMT -5
Sorry, it's 4 videos and you have to go to my YT page and click on playlists!<br>
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Post by moe on Nov 28, 2015 0:32:39 GMT -5
Holy cow! Is there really such a thing as a YT sensitivity course? What will they think of next.
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Post by the Scribe on Dec 19, 2016 21:40:54 GMT -5
Found this thread on google and thought I would update it a bit plus things are slow here for some reason. (not that Trump being elected by the electoral college today reminds me of the Manson Family, Dubya Bush or anything) This Forum is filled with interesting moments that the casual browser will miss.
www.lsb3.com/2014/03/linda-ronstadt-meets-leslie-van-houten.html Wednesday, March 19, 2014 Linda Ronstadt meets Leslie Van Houten
I'm currently reading Linda Ronstadt's book Simple Dreams. In her book, Linda relates how she (and her friend Nicolette Larson) were really into roller skating. This was during the late 1970's, when skating was very popular. I can relate, because I loved going to roller discos! While skating in Southern California one day, Linda and Nicolette met Leslie Van Houten.
On to the story (excerpted from Simple Dreams):
Nicky and I started skating on Venice Beach, which we loved because it was full of extreme Southern California characters. There were old Jewish lefties playing chess, whatever was left of the Beat Generation, Muscle Beach bodybuilders, and street performers. There were also slackers and stoners of every description lying around enjoying the warm sun and the great looking girls in skimpy clothing.
Skating liberated us from car culture. If we saw something we liked, we could stop and join in immediately without having to park. If we didn't like what we saw, we could roll on by. The two of us were both novice skaters and could stop only by grabbing on to a pole or a tree.
We had a pal named Dan Blackburn, who worked as a news correspondent for NBC. He was a good skater and offered to meet us at the beach and give us some tips. Dan said he would bring a friend he wanted us to meet. He arrived at the designated hour and introduced us to a slender brunette, quiet and pretty, with a refined, well-brought-up manner. Her name was Leslie. We skated for an hour or so, until we were accosted by a tangle of people who were lying on the ground, trying to grab our ankles and begging for water. Some of them were eating dirt. They were obviously wasted on something strong. Someone said it was "angel dust," which was the street name for PCP. The analgesic effect of angel dust can prevent users form realizing they need water, and by the time the drug starts to wear off, they are desperate with thirst.
We managed to slide away and skated to a nearby restuarant for lunch. After we ordered, we began to talk about how we felt sorry and embarrassed for the people we had seen, that they had been shorn of any dignity they may have possessed, and that angel dust looked like a bad drug. Nicky and I had never tried it, and wondered what could be its appeal. Quiet Leslie became animated and said that yes, it was a very bad drug, and could cause one to do things one would never do when sober. She said she knew this, because she herself, had done some bad things under the influence of drugs and had gone to jail. Remembering my own jail experience, I naively asked her what she was arrested for. "Murder," she replied. "Well, who did you murder?" Nicky sputtered. Leslie replied that her full name was Leslie Van Houten and that she had been part of Charles Manson's "family." Nicollete and I were choking on our burgers. She seemed so nice and normal.
We wondered as politely as we could, how she had gotten out of jail and could be lunching and roller skating with us instead of sitting in a cell with the rest of her cohorts. She was out on an appeal because her attoney disappeared during the trial, and so she was found to have had ineffective assistance at trial.
As she saw it, the combination of Charles Manson's influence, plus the drugs he had encouraged her to take, would convince the court that she was not in her right mind, and therefore innocent. Dan and Leslie left us pondering how someone's life could change so irrevocably from normal to grotesquely tragic. As we skated back to where the car was parked, we wondered, could this happen to either of us? Or someone we loved? It definitely reinforced the hearing loss argument against drugs. I remember feeling so disturbed and distracted that I lost track of what my feet were doing and fell hard on the concrete. This, added to my fall down the stairs at the Capitol theatre a few years earlier, caused yeares of back problems.
Leslie's appeal, no surprise, was ultimately unsuccessful, as she was retried and ultimatley found guilty. After close to a year of freedom, she was returned to prison, where she remains to this day.
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Post by the Scribe on Dec 19, 2016 21:50:13 GMT -5
Strange to also find Linda and Manson to be listed on the same NPR page:
Fresh Air Weekend: Linda Ronstadt, Charles Manson And Robbie Fulks Listen· 47:30 September 21, 2013·11:02 AM ET
Heard on Fresh Air www.npr.org/2013/09/21/224763887/fresh-air-weekend-jeff-guinn-robbie-fulks-linda-ronstadt audio: ondemand.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/fa/2013/09/20130921_fa_01.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1022&aggIds=139029251&d=2850&p=13&story=224763887&t=progseg&e=224763888&seg=1&siteplayer=true&dl=1
Fresh Air Weekend highlights some of the best interviews and reviews from past weeks, and new program elements specially paced for weekends. Our weekend show emphasizes interviews with writers, filmmakers, actors and musicians, and often includes excerpts from live in-studio concerts. This week:
In Memoir, Linda Ronstadt Describes Her 'Simple Dreams': Last month, Ronstadt revealed that she has Parkinson's disease and can no longer sing. Her new memoir, Simple Dreams, reflects on a long career. In this conversation with Fresh Air's Terry Gross, she offers frank insights on sex, drugs, and why "competition was for horse races."
Bio Credits Manson's Terrible Rise To Right Place And Time: California parolee Charles Manson arrived in San Francisco in 1967, when the city was full of young waifs looking for a guru. In Manson, Jeff Guinn argues that if the cult leader had instead been paroled in a place like Nebraska, he likely would not have been so successful.
Robbie Fulks: Exhilarating And Bitter On 'Gone Away Backward': The singer's new album is a work of great, accomplished craft about the pointlessness of crafting anything you care about, because the world is just going to ruin it on you.
You can listen to the original interviews here: ◾In Memoir, Linda Ronstadt Describes Her 'Simple Dreams' ◾Bio Credits Manson's Terrible Rise To Right Place And Time ◾Robbie Fulks: Exhilarating And Bitter On 'Gone Away Backward'
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Post by the Scribe on Dec 19, 2016 22:33:17 GMT -5
Another strange Ronstadt Manson connection happened while she was "dating" newly elected Governor Jerry Brown:
macewen2013.wordpress.com/tag/manson-family/
In trying to piece this together I wonder if this was also the time that slasher broke into Linda's Malibu home leaving her a creepy and scary message? In watching this documentary I see similarities not only to W Bush but to Donald J Trump in Manson. Sociopath, Psychopath, Narcissistic Personality have many similarities.
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Post by the Scribe on Dec 19, 2016 23:49:03 GMT -5
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Post by Dianna on Dec 21, 2016 2:07:35 GMT -5
Re: Linda Ronstadt meets Leslie Van Houten. I thought that excerpt of Linda's book was interesting. The whole Charles Manson thing was pretty big back then and from what I understand his girls, Susan Atkins and Leslie were household names back then,.. I'm surprised Linda or Nicolette didn't recognize her from the news and papers.
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 4, 2017 5:28:12 GMT -5
This is almost Kennedyesque. There is another book about a serial killer who was ALSO in the area and it claims he killed Nicole Brown. Creepy to think Linda was living there when several serial killers were running around the neighborhood.
Serial Killer Murdered Nicole Brown Simpson, New Documentary Claims By Dan Harris and RICH MCHUGH ·Nov. 20, 2012 abcnews.go.com/US/serial-killer-oj-simpson-murdered-nicole-brown-simpson/story?id=17765728
A convicted serial killer currently on death row killed O.J. Simpson's ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman, a new documentary claims.
"My Brother the Serial Killer" claims Glen Rogers was behind the 1994 murders that made nationwide headlines. The documentary, which airs Nov. 21 on Investigation Discovery, includes a candid interview with Rogers' brother, Clay.
"I'm absolutely certain that my brother killed Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman," Clay Rogers told the filmmakers.
Glen Rogers was arrested six weeks after Simpson, the famous football player and Brown's ex-husband, was acquitted of the murders. Police claimed Rogers went on a nationwide killing spree, allegedly murdering more than 70 people.
Receipts show that Rogers was working as a housepainter in Los Angeles at the time of the murders, according to the documentary. In the weeks before the Brown and Goldman were killed, Rogers told his brother and sister he was hanging around with Brown and said she was rich and he was going to "take her down."
According to the documentary, Rogers later told a criminal profiler that Simpson had hired him to steal back a pair of expensive earrings from Brown. Simpson allegedly told Rogers that "you have to kill the [expletive]"
Rogers also provided a "detailed account" of the murder to criminal profiler Anthony Meoli, according to the documentary. Rogers drew a picture of the knife he claims to have used, which matches the forensic description of the blade.
"There has been no investigation of Glen Rogers. The fact that he is confessing now surely means that the authorities should open the books on it," said filmmaker David Monaghan.
Goldman's father, Fred, does not believe the documentary.
"The fact of the acquittal at the hands of the jury will never wash away this murder from the hands of O.J. Simpson, not matter how many Glen Rogers pop up on the media radar screen," Goldman told TMZ.
While the new documentary is bound to generate attention on a case that gripped the nation, experts say it will unlikely change many minds about who did it.
"The filmmaker has created a compelling case here. The problem is, it doesn't deal with the enormous amount of evidence pointing at O.J. Simpson," said ABC News legal analyst Dan Abrams.
Simpson is currently serving up to 33 years in Nevada state prison after a group of men say the former football star robbed them of sports memorabilia at a hotel in 2007.
Rogers was captured in 1995 after his family tipped off police about his location. He has received death sentences in California and Florida and currently awaiting execution on Florida's death row.
Rogers was not interviewed for the documentary.
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 5, 2017 19:16:25 GMT -5
This video confirms my belief all along that O.J. Simpson did not kill Nicole Brown or Ronald Goldman. While he did not commit the killings he is still guilty. The real murderer is behind bars and in a strange twist the same behavior of O.J.'s that got him into prison was the same behavior that led to the deaths of his former wife and her friend. Seeing as how both O.J. and the murderer are both in prison for similar crimes committed in this case is why I believe California/L.A. officials chose not to re-open the case. Ron Goldman's father doesn't believe this story but it fits nicely into the facts of the case and answers lots of unanswered questions. I am glad Linda moved from Brentwood when she did.
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Post by the Scribe on Sept 3, 2019 6:30:32 GMT -5
Linda2006nicci, do you have a new source for the entire video?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 14:58:41 GMT -5
Here's some of it:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2021 9:41:17 GMT -5
Linda, Bonnie, Warren & Jackson.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2021 13:51:22 GMT -5
My post above, has been transplanted here from a thread I started in General Music.
The *full* documentary has Bonnie Raitt, Warren Zevon and Jackson Brown talking and singing songs each. Linda does not sing.
Therefore General Music is more appropriate.
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