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Post by erik on Nov 26, 2014 9:36:58 GMT -5
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Post by Dianna on Nov 28, 2014 1:25:36 GMT -5
I never thought she was good for the role.
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Post by philly on Jan 1, 2015 21:56:41 GMT -5
At this moment if you asked me to name any of her songs for $1000 each, I could only remember one, "Mean"... Taylor Swift overtakes 'Frozen' for 2014's top seller Brian Mansfield, USA TODAY 3:03 p.m. EST December 31, 2014 Frozen finally had to let it go. After spending most of 2014 as the year's top-selling album, the soundtrack has given up its status to Taylor Swift's 1989. Swift's album, released in October, has sold 3.661 million copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan, overtaking the Disney movie soundtrack in the last sales week of the year. Frozen has amassed 3.53 million in sales in 2014 (though it has sold 3.865 million overall since its release in November 2013). No other album has sold even 2 million copies in 2014. The No. 3 album of the year is Sam Smith's In the Lonely Hour, at 1.21 million. Swift's fifth album sold 326,000 copies last week to Frozen's 64,000. According to Billboard, it's the second time Swift has had the top-selling album of the year, having sold 3.22 million copies of her second album, Fearless, in 2009.
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Post by Dianna on Jan 2, 2015 21:26:56 GMT -5
I'm getting a little nauseated of this girl. I read she was sending her fans Christmas gifts and it was on video for the world to see. That's fine, but why all the media attention surrounding "what a great person she is?" Just do it..without the fuss. She's no Mother Theresa. Many people who have way less than she does give to humanity or to animals or the environment with no high fives.. or for audience applause. Truth be told I'm getting very sick of her self congratulatory "pats on the back." I'd wish she would take her crappy music and go away
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Post by Tony on Jan 2, 2015 23:48:35 GMT -5
Do any of today's artists have even a modicum of modesty? I was watching a talk show last week with Usher and the host mentioned that Usher's song was Grammy-nominated. He held up four fingers and smiled, bragging of his 4 Grammy nominations this year?
Can you imagine Linda in 1978 going on a talk show and bragging about her 8 Grammy nominations?
But Taylor Swift should surely be proud of having the best-selling album of the year, especially considering a best-selling album is almost an extinct species.
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Post by Dianna on Jan 3, 2015 0:20:54 GMT -5
well Linda could teach many people the meaning of humility, including Ms. Swift. Because of the same over bearing "fondness for oneself." I had to unlike Madonna's page today.. she is promoting her new album "rebel heart," in celebration had pictures up of MLK, Nelson Mandela, John Lennon,"freedom fighters" in her likeness from her cd cover .. i wanted to vomit because she actually thinks of herself in that category. pallleezzzzz.
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Post by erik on Jan 3, 2015 0:24:34 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
I think it also has a lot to do with Ms. Swift just wanting to hear the sound of her own name, as much as whatever "generosity", sincere or otherwise, she has.
But whatever the case may be, this is someone who, so far as I can tell, has done absolutely nothing to improve the quality of her voice, which I still think is one of the worst I have ever heard in my life. It's not that I think she should be of Linda Ronstadt-like caliber (and only a handful of even really good singers get close to that), but she can't pretend to continue to be a teen at her age and think that she's going to remain successful forever doing that, because she won't (IMHO).
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Post by Tony on Jan 4, 2015 0:55:10 GMT -5
Erik, I saw Taylor performing on some program this week and thought the same thing, that she didn't seem to be spending any time improving her voice. Sure she sounds better than when she started, but not appreciably better. And even though it was a live performance, it sounded like it was autotuned.
But on the other hand, it appears that having a great voice is not related to success in the marketplace.
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Post by erik on Jan 4, 2015 1:06:12 GMT -5
Quote by Tony:
This is true...unfortunately.
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Post by Dianna on Jan 4, 2015 14:45:32 GMT -5
Her voice has little to do with it.. Kacey Musgraves isn't the best singer either but I connect with her songs, they have depth and meaning, like a lot of effort was put into her music.. unlike Swift, where every song is about the same boring dim witted juvenile crap.. and people rave.. i can understand how young girl would be attracted to her.. because that is the level she is at..nothing wrong with that but as Erik says.. when is she gonna grow up and show her adult potential?
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Post by Goldie on Jan 4, 2015 15:49:02 GMT -5
"i can understand how young girl would be attracted to her.. because that is the level she is at..nothing wrong with that"
That is where the industry gets their money....from tweens and teens. The new forms of media have exaggerated or exposed Swift's popularity and the failing music industry needs to promote it to survive. too much power in the hands of the young and undeveloped to sway an industry. but that's they way of things for now.
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Post by Goldie on Jan 4, 2015 17:21:45 GMT -5
Stevie Nicks, who Taylor says was an influence uses Miley Cyrus as an example of what not to do. As Dianna says every song is about the same boring dim witted juvenile crap. At some point they need to move on ...
go directly to 7:50 or so:
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Post by Dianna on Jan 4, 2015 18:29:05 GMT -5
yes but everyone has called out Miley Cyrus, including Linda.. Nobody is calling Taylor Swift out. I guess I look at singer songwriters like Joni Mitchell who at Taylor's age were writing about different things, everyday people and lives.. the mundane life of a not so happy taxi cab driver in Nathan LaFraneer... and Marcie, what a sad song and how clever her play on words was.. the "reds and greens." I guess I can say I feel this woman/girl is very over rated .. don't know how else I can explain it
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Post by Goldie on Jan 4, 2015 20:03:16 GMT -5
I could be wrong but I think Stevie didn't mention Taylor because she knows Taylor looks up to her and or she may not think Taylor is particularly talented or she may think Taylor isn't in that category. It may have been a round about way to tell Taylor as well.
switch to progressive
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Post by Dianna on Jan 4, 2015 21:04:27 GMT -5
I cringe at those commercials.lol
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Post by erik on Jan 4, 2015 21:05:58 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
I think it also has a fair amount to do not only with the infinite gap between a Joni Mitchell and a Miley Cyrus or Taylor Swift as "artists", but also the way the business is today as opposed to what it was in the late 1960s and 1970s. The business not only allowed songs about social observations and personal emotions to be created, they actually stimulated such creativity; and you only have to look at just a little bit of Bob Dylan's "stream of consciousness" lyrics for a bit more proof of that extremely creative time. You couldn't possibly get away with that today and expect to get played on the radio.
But Stevie is dead-on; just singing about your teen years, as Ms. Swift is doing at age 25, is going to get old after a while. Taylor may be rich, famous, and fabulous, but she is really misusing what talent she has, choosing to stay on cruise control and not improving on an area where she is clearly deficient and has always been: her voice. Sure, "haters are gonna hate, hate, hate", but not all of those doing the criticizing are merely bashing Ms. Swift, many of them have had decades of experience and know whereof they speak. If Taylor doesn't listen very closely to what they're saying, she's going to miss a hell of a lot of important stuff, and be a spoiled little rich girl still mentally stuck in high school at the age of 30.
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Post by Goldie on Jan 8, 2015 0:43:01 GMT -5
Taylor needs to reinvent herself like Linda did so often. Do a radical change in music or even take acting lessons. She must be very wealthy by now.
boogie on reggae woman
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Post by erik on Jan 8, 2015 9:35:51 GMT -5
Quote by Goldie:
Reinvention is something that a lot of stars do in their careers. What Ms. Swift needs to do is to grow up.
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Post by Dianna on Jan 8, 2015 14:44:18 GMT -5
Reinvention is something that a lot of stars do in their careers. What Ms. Swift needs to do is to grow up.[/quote] I'm gonna agree with Erik. Take any 2 or 3 lines of any Taylor Swift song and compare it to i.e say Gordon Lightfoot or Joni Mitchell.. is like comparing Shakespeare to Donald Duck.
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Post by erik on Jan 8, 2015 21:53:11 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
I also think that if you look back or read about what the music business was in the late 1960s when Linda started out, the talent and the ability, whether raw or not (and it was raw but already formed in Linda with the Stone Poneys [IMHO]), were largely what the industry wanted to see first and foremost. Nowadays, we have a music industry, or shall we say a business, that doesn't seem to give a damn about all of that, which allows someone like Taylor Swift to come out of nowhere to sell tons of albums, even though a lot of things about her are very suspect, not least of all her voice. Linda may not be the greatest "entertainer", even of her own generation, but many of her peers regard her as a gold standard for what female singers, especially in country, folk, and roots rock, can do in terms of vocal quality, choice of material, and professionalism.
By contrast, Taylor is much, much more of an entertainer, which is what the audience, vis-à-vis the industry, seems to want the most these days. She works on the surface stuff as well as anybody else; I don't doubt that for one minute. But once you get past the entertainment value, including the obligatory popping out onto the stage from below like a jack-in-the-box, what you have is someone who is basically squandering whatever talent she might have in favor of reliving the angst of her teen years at the age of 25 in what is almost a sadomasochistic way. And the fact is this: She is not a good singer. PERIOD.
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Post by Dianna on Jan 8, 2015 23:04:27 GMT -5
She works on the surface stuff as well as anybody else; I don't doubt that for one minute. But once you get past the entertainment value, including the obligatory popping out onto the stage from below like a jack-in-the-box, what you have is someone who is basically squandering whatever talent she might have in favor of reliving the angst of her teen years at the age of 25 in what is almost a sadomasochistic way. And the fact is this: She is not a good singer. PERIOD. But if she wrote/sang anything remotely "teen angsty." (Lorde is more teen angst)I'd give her a pass. More like an 8 or 9 year old having a temper tantrum at a slumber party. I have a feeling this gal is a big pain in the ass.
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Post by moe on Jan 9, 2015 9:04:23 GMT -5
Dianna, changed your avatars again. The new one is pretty but somehow lacks the impact of the old! Also people look at our comments on the old one and say WTF!!! Looks like a perfect gaslight-well played!
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Post by Dianna on Jan 9, 2015 22:48:19 GMT -5
Dianna, changed your avatars again. The new one is pretty but somehow lacks the impact of the old! Also people look at our comments on the old one and say WTF!!! Looks like a perfect gaslight-well played! I didn't do it on purpose! It was on temporary.. I think we were discussing smiling sharks on a different thread. lol
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Post by TAYLORMADEFORBABY on Mar 4, 2015 3:33:32 GMT -5
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Post by jhar26 on Mar 10, 2015 3:26:29 GMT -5
Kanye West is right - Beyonce is better. But beggars can't be choosers. If Taylor sells lots of records I suppose it's good for a record industry that is badly in need of some big selling artists. Why exactly Taylor is that artist is a mystery to me, but then we aren't really the target audience for this stuff anyway - it's kiddie music. Having said that, there were times when kiddie music used to be a whole lot better than this. Nothing wrong with her on a personal level as far as I can see though. She seems like a pretty nice girl, although it's of course always hard to know what's real and what's just pr. But until proven otherwise.....
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Post by Pete on Mar 11, 2015 15:57:36 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift, well, her voice anyway, I don't actually know anything about her.
My Dad thinks she sounds like Avril Lavigne which I cannot see, I like Avril Lavigne's voice and although I do like her singles, most of her best songs have been the songs that weren't released as singles.
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Post by erik on Mar 11, 2015 17:37:49 GMT -5
Quote by jhar26:
While Taylor may be no great shakes as a singer, I don't think Beyoncé is any better.
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Post by Dianna on Mar 11, 2015 18:36:37 GMT -5
Quote by jhar26: While Taylor may be no great shakes as a singer, I don't think Beyoncé is any better. I agree, I think they both stink. I never understood the big fuss over Beyonce. I was bored at her Grammy performance.. GaGa blew everyone away at the Oscars, including Jennifer Hudson, who IMO is a lot better singer/artist than Beyonce Without sounding like that idiot Kid Rock.. I don't even think Bey is all that beautiful.. I've seen many photos of her and to me, she is very over rated. J-Hud better singer and Rhianna more beautiful/exotic
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Post by moon on Mar 11, 2015 19:11:47 GMT -5
Quote by jhar26: While Taylor may be no great shakes as a singer, I don't think Beyoncé is any better. I agree, I think they both stink. I never understood the big fuss over Beyonce. I was bored at her Grammy performance.. GaGa blew everyone away at the Oscars, including Jennifer Hudson, who IMO is a lot better singer/artist than Beyonce Without sounding like that idiot Kid Rock.. I don't even think Bey is all that beautiful.. I've seen many photos of her and to me, she is very over rated. J-Hud better singer and Rhianna more beautiful/exotic ohhhh I am so glad someone actually wrote it, said it about Beyoncé. I thought I had to stay silent about thinking that she isn't that great. Seems almost sacrilegious to say Beyoncé is boring but I think Beyoncé is boring. really boring...as I say it once "Beyawnce"
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Post by erik on Mar 11, 2015 20:08:24 GMT -5
Quote by moon:
Yes, unfortunately Beyoncé's looks, voice, and songs are so generic as to give a whole new meaning to the word "Valium". With Taylor Swift, at least you know you have the added bonus of someone who's 25 but who's acting her shoe size as opposed to her actual age.
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