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Post by moon on Jul 9, 2014 0:09:00 GMT -5
Am i missing something? Seems there are no live recordings cds of Linda R. Concerts??
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Post by erik on Jul 9, 2014 8:34:43 GMT -5
No legitimate full live concert albums, anyway; just a few songs on her self-titled 1972 album, two ("Tumbling Dice"; "Poor, Poor, Pitiful Me") on the soundtrack of FM, and some scattered ones elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 9:14:09 GMT -5
There are a few live cuts on the 'Rarities' disk of the box set....
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Post by Richard W on Jul 9, 2014 9:32:53 GMT -5
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Post by sliderocker on Jul 9, 2014 11:18:32 GMT -5
With regard to Linda's concerts, since some were filmed, there's a good chance they (and others) were also recorded. But, as we also know that Linda has always been hard on her singing, it's possible the reason there has never been a whole "Linda Ronstadt Live" album, either in the 70s or 80s (or later), is that she didn't regard them was as being worthy of release. A lot of live albums from the 70s that were released on album and then later to cd still don't hold up very well, although I always thought the problem there was the record companies simply reissued them without remastering and remixing them for cd. That might have made for some difference but still, I couldn't see Linda approving release of any of her concerts, even if they were given a great mix and mastering job.
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Post by erik on Jul 9, 2014 11:49:14 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker:
It's quite true that a lot of live albums from the 70s haven't withstood the test of time all too well (though I'd be hesitant in saying that about, say, Frampton Comes Alive). And I suppose Linda's reasons for no live albums is that she can't cover herself the way she might be able to do inside the confines of the studio.
But having said that, I would say that that is the whole point of a live album. You can't cover yourself. The stage is really where your mettle is tested as an artist. And even if she was never the most "exciting" live performer in the world (which was true), she still shook the rafters with her voice; and this makes the lack of even one live album one of the few things I can really find any significant fault with in regards to Linda.
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Post by charlotte on Jul 9, 2014 14:01:19 GMT -5
Linda has stated that her LIVE performances of many tunes were more evolved, nuanced and that she had improved phrasing, different arrangements and certainly freedom. "All That You Dream" @ the Lowell George Tribute and "Back in the USA" with Keith Richards and Chuck Berry from Hail, Hail Rock and Roll both on the LR box set being two examples. The early club versions of Long, Long Time and even Rescue Me are great. Tumbling Dice and You're No Good in concert are so different than the album versions and tremendous testaments to her Rock and Roll Canon. The bootlegs dvds of the Atlanta Concert in 77, the German shows etc. must have sound board recordings that are great quality even if the visuals are shakey. I would love to hear some live 90s performances - she was in top voice and I for one missed those shows. Linda did not seem to concern herself with documenting or chronically her media - bless her hearts devotion to the music - but there has to be a way and there certainly is a demand for a quality live compilation with some rarieties. They have been slapping her name on compilations for five decades - remember the Pickwick compilation "Stoney End"  Why not a quality live disc or two. Her concerts, with few exceptions (everyone has an off night), were triumphs and vocally stunning. Throw in some Nelson Riddle, some tunes in Spanish, maybe Texas Girl at The Funeral of Her Father from the Randy Newman @the Odeon gig -something, anything. The lack of a legitimate live release is a travesty. The public is having a Ronstadt Renaissance of sorts, for a host of reasons - her health, passing of time, the fact that so many female performers can not really sing, but mainly because she has one of the most naturally gorgeous voices in the history of American popular music - genre be damned. Perhaps someone can send word to John Boylan and say "enough is enough" -time has come to give the people LINDA LIVE! |
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Post by Dianna on Jul 9, 2014 15:32:49 GMT -5
Linda has stated that her LIVE performances of many tunes were more evolved, nuanced and that she had improved phrasing, different arrangements and certainly freedom. "All That You Dream" @ the Lowell George Tribute and "Back in the USA" with Keith Richards and Chuck Berry from Hail, Hail Rock and Roll both on the LR box set being two examples. The early club versions of Long, Long Time and even Rescue Me are great. Tumbling Dice and You're No Good in concert are so different than the album versions and tremendous testaments to her Rock and Roll Canon. The bootlegs dvds of the Atlanta Concert in 77, the German shows etc. must have sound board recordings that are great quality even if the visuals are shakey. I would love to hear some live 90s performances - she was in top voice and I for one missed those shows. Linda did not seem to concern herself with documenting or chronically her media - bless her hearts devotion to the music - but there has to be a way and there certainly is a demand for a quality live compilation with some rarieties. They have been slapping her name on compilations for five decades - remember the Pickwick compilation "Stoney End" Why not a quality live disc or two. Her concerts, with few exceptions (everyone has an off night), were triumphs and vocally stunning. Throw in some Nelson Riddle, some tunes in Spanish, maybe Texas Girl at The Funeral of Her Father from the Randy Newman @the Odeon gig -something, anything. The lack of a legitimate live release is a travesty. The public is having a Ronstadt Renaissance of sorts, for a host of reasons - her health, passing of time, the fact that so many female performers can not really sing, but mainly because she has one of the most naturally gorgeous voices in the history of American popular music - genre be damned. Perhaps someone can send word to John Boylan and say "enough is enough" -time has come to give the people LINDA LIVE! I agree .. a complete Linda Live album is needed. It's rare when the artist sings better live than the recording.. They should take advantage of it. |
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Post by Richard W on Jul 9, 2014 17:20:54 GMT -5
Hear, hear, Charlotte!
I mean, we (meaning they) can compile and re-compile material from her catalog seemingly forever, but what's lacking is a LIVE album/compilation. Anyone who was a Linda fan and attended any one of her concerts knows what a special event it was to hear that voice unleashed and would no doubt drool themselves silly at the prospect of a live Ronstadt album.
John Boylen, where are you?
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Post by moon on Jul 10, 2014 21:30:42 GMT -5
Wow great responses. So, sadly there really isnt a live recording of a entire concert!!!!
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Post by moon on Jul 10, 2014 21:51:32 GMT -5
Charlotte
No kidding. Her voice in the 90's was amazing. Its really a shame not to hear a live recording of her at that point , or anytime for that matter. Its great being able to hear her live on youtube releases, my favorite being Back in the USA with Chuck Berry and Keith Richards. But its just not the same as having a good recording to listen to.
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Post by Miffed on Jul 11, 2014 16:29:45 GMT -5
Didn't Chuck Berry (a bit of an a**hole) change the key of the song on Linda during the concert? I know that they talked on the DVD documentary about some guest artist being miffed when Chuck wanted to change things up on the fly (and yet, on the same DVD, he went over some riff with Keith Richards ad nauseum until Richard got it right - sounded the same to me, both wrong and right).
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Post by Richard W on Jul 11, 2014 18:48:59 GMT -5
Didn't Chuck Berry (a bit of an a**hole) change the key of the song on Linda during the concert? I know that they talked on the DVD documentary about some guest artist being miffed when Chuck wanted to change things up on the fly (and yet, on the same DVD, he went over some riff with Keith Richards ad nauseum until Richard got it right - sounded the same to me, both wrong and right). What I recall is that they rehearsed Living in the USA in a certain key, but when Linda came out Berry changed the key (to an A?). Evidently Linda was so miffed at this that, after joyously performing the song, she walked off stage and right out of the auditorium. |
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Post by sliderocker on Jul 11, 2014 19:32:49 GMT -5
Wow great responses. So, sadly there really isnt a live recording of a entire concert!!!! Officially, no. Unofficially, there were quite a few bootlegs but also unofficially, I wouldn't rule out Warners/Asylum or Capitol having a full length unreleased concert or two sitting in their vaults. I think there was talk one time in the late 70s about a live double album on Linda being released but that was during the time when almost every artist/band and their mother was releasing a live album. That idea may have fallen by the wayside because there were so many live albums by the other artists. |
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Post by Richard W on Jul 11, 2014 19:37:02 GMT -5
What's weird, to me, is that, for example, the Capitol Theater videos from 1975 are professionally shot -- you don't get those shots from the audience -- so there must have been some professional recordings of it, even if what we see appears to me multi-generational VHS-derived tapes.
So why go through all of that taping, etc., for nothing?
I suspect there's a lot of high-quality live stuff out there that could be released as digital music.
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Post by erik on Jul 11, 2014 20:25:55 GMT -5
Quote by Richard W:
Though you do kind of wish the video quality on those Capitol Theater was a touch better, even if in black-and-white and with nearly four decade-old technology. And yes, the question of going through all of that footage and not doing anything about it is a good one that, I think, probably ought to be answered.
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Post by sliderocker on Jul 11, 2014 20:40:55 GMT -5
What's weird, to me, is that, for example, the Capitol Theater videos from 1975 are professionally shot -- you don't get those shots from the audience -- so there must have been some professional recordings of it, even if what we see appears to me multi-generational VHS-derived tapes. So why go through all of that taping, etc., for nothing? I suspect there's a lot of high-quality live stuff out there that could be released as digital music. My guess is that perhaps the video was planned as a possible tv special, or a test run for a possible tv special that never came off. Linda had signed a deal with CBS for a tv special that was planned for airing during the 1977-78 season, but for whatever reason, it never happened. One of the questions has to be was it even filmed and another has to be if it was, why was it canceled? The concert footage of Linda from Atlanta, Georgia and from Germany are also of professional quality - very high professional quality. And again, why filmed but never aired on tv or at the movies or released officially on home video/dvd? Asylum could've put together a live album from any of those concerts but they never did. Was it Linda (and Peter Asher) who deep-sixed the videos and any possible live album? One also has to wonder that with her career now behind her, if Linda was the one who deep-sixed the videos and any possible live album, would she reconsider and allow them to finally be released, if she happens to own the rights to them? |
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Post by ausfan2 on Jul 12, 2014 0:41:48 GMT -5
4 of Linda's concerts from the 1970s were released as unofficial "Bootleg" vinyl albums. In total 6 LPs were issued. They are:
1974
Wishin' I Was A Cub Scout
Korneyfone - TAKRL 925
1. Colorado
2. That'll Be The Day
3. Love Has No Pride
4. Silver Threads and Golden Needles
5. I Fall to Pieces
6. Willin'
7. Desperado
8. When Will I be Loved
9. I Can't Help It
10. Long Long Time
11. You're No Good
12. Heart Like A Wheel
Notes:
Show #2 at My Father’s Place, Roslyn New York on 21 July 1974.
The back cover carries the heading “Revelations From The Very Middle”
1975
Take Two Before Bedtime
TKRWM 1804
1. Colorado
2. Silver Threads and Golden Needles
3. I Can't Help It
4. Desperado
5. When Will I Be Loved
6. Long Long Time
7. You're No Good
8. Heatwave
9. Heart Like a Wheel
10. It Doesn't Matter Anymore
11. Hey Good Lookin’
Notes:
Recorded at the Berkeley Community Theatre, Berkeley California on 13 April 1975.
At the end of track 9 Linda says "goodnight Berkeley"
Tracks 10 and 11 are from a different venue.
1976
Live At The Roxy
Ze Anonym Plattenspieler Records ZAP 7888
1. That'll Be The Day
2. Silver Threads & Golden Needles
3. Willin'
4. Someone To Lay Done Beside Me
5. When Will I Be Loved
6. I Can't Help It
7. Desperado
8. Love Is A Rose
9. You're No Good
10. Heat Wave
11. Rivers Of Babylon
12. Heart Like A Wheel
Notes:
Recorded in the Roxy Theatre, Los Angeles.
Date of recording is unknown but it is believed to be a special concert (possibly to raise funds for Jerry Brown’s 1976 Presidential campaign).
1977
Star-Spangled Girl
Ruthless Rhymes LR-10002
1. Lose Again
2. That'll Be The Day
3. Blue Bayou
4. Silver Threads and Golden Needles
5. Willin
6. Faithless Love
7. It Doesn't Matter Any More
8. When Will I Be Loved
9. Crazy
10. Poor Poor Pitiful Me
11. Desperado
12. Love Me Tender
13. Simple Man Simple Dreams
14. Love is a Rose
15. Someone to Lay Down Beside Me
16. Introductions
17. Tumbling Dice
18. You're No Good
19. Heart Like a Wheel
20. Heatwave
21. Sorrow Lives Here
22. Star Spangled Banner
Notes:
A 2 record set released in England
Recorded 29 September 1977 at the Universal Amphitheatre, Los Angeles
The Star Spangled Banner is from her appearance at the 14 October 1977 World Series game at Dodger Stadium, Los Angeles.
In her dialogue between songs Linda mentioned that the concert was being recorded.
The above album was also available as 2 single albums:
The Lively Linda 1
Ruthless Rhymes LR-1000
1. Lose Again
2. That'll Be The Day
3. Blue Bayou
4. Silver Threads and Golden Needles
5. Willin
6. Faithless Love
7. It Doesn't Matter Any More
8. When Will I Be Loved
9. Crazy
10. Poor Poor Pitiful Me
11. Desperado
12. Love Me Tender
Notes:
Disc 1 of the Star Spangled Girl 2 LP set
The Lively Linda 2
Ruthless Rhymes LR-1000
1. Simple Man Simple Dreams
2. Love is a Rose
3. Someone to Lay Down Beside Me
4. Introductions
5. Tumbling Dice
6. You're No Good
7. Heart Like a Wheel
8. Heatwave
9. Sorrow Lives Here
10. Star Spangled Banner
Notes:
Disc 2 of the Star Spangled Girl 2 LP set
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Post by ausfan2 on Jul 12, 2014 1:22:00 GMT -5
Live recordings could easily be issued using the soundtrack of the 2 officially released videos
1984
What's New
Arlington Theatre, Santa Barbara, CA
with Nelson Riddle & Orchestra
10 March 1984
Video version
1. I've Got A Crush On You
2. What's New?
3. Keeping Out Of Mischief
4. Guess I'll Hang My Tears Out To Dry
5. Falling In Love Again
6. Someone To Watch Over Me
7. Hey Daddy
8. Mr. Sandman
9. Kalamazoo
10. Dream
11. Take me Right Back To The Track
12. I Don't Stand A Ghost Of A Chance With You
13. Lover Man
14. Good-Bye
1992
Canciones De Mi Padre
1. Los Laureles
2. Por Un Amor
3. La Cigarra
4. La Bamba
5. Hay Unos Ojos
6. Dos Arbolitos
7. La Barca De Guaymas
8. Amorcito Corazon
9. El Cascabel
10. La Rielera
11. El Adios Del Soldado
12. Yo Soy El Corrido
13. El Gusto
14. El Caballito
15. El Sol Que Tu Eres
16. El Jarabe Tapatio
17. Y Andale
18. El Crucifijo De Piedra
19. La Charreada
20. Cancion Mixteca
21. Volver, Volver
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Post by ausfan2 on Jul 12, 2014 1:33:38 GMT -5
Let's not forget that 2 concerts were recorded and broadcast as TV Specials, perhaps these soundtracks could be issued as live albums representing the rock and punk phases of Linda's career.
1977
Fox Theatre, Atlanta GA
Broadcast in 1978
1 December 1977
1. That'll Be The Day
2. Blue Bayou
3. Silver Threads & Golden Needles
4. Willin'
5. Faithless Love
6. It Doesn't Matter Anymore
7. When Will I Be Loved
8. Crazy
9. Poor Poor Pitiful Me
10. Desperado
11. Love Me Tender
12. Simple Man, Simple Dream
13. Love Is A Rose
14. Maybe I'm Right
15. It's So Easy
16. Someone To Lay Down Beside Me
17. Tumbling Dice
18. You're No Good
19. Sorrow Lives Here
20. Heatwave
1980
Standing Room Only – Linda Ronstadt In Concert - Live on HBO
Broadcast on 24 August 1980
1. I Can't Let Go
2. Party Girl
3. It's So Easy
4. ,Willin'
5. I Can't Help It
6. Just One Look
7. Look Out For My Love
8. Mad Love
9. Cost Of Love
10. Blue Bayou
11. Lies
12. Faithless Love
13. Hurt So Bad
14. Silver Threads & Golden Needles
15. Poor Poor Pitiful Me
16. You're No Good
17. How Do I Make You
18. Back In The USA
19. Heatwave
20. Desperado.
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Post by sliderocker on Jul 12, 2014 10:36:39 GMT -5
Let's not forget that 2 concerts were recorded and broadcast as TV Specials, perhaps these soundtracks could be issued as live albums representing the rock and punk phases of Linda's career. 1977
Fox Theatre, Atlanta GABroadcast in 1978 1 December 1977 1. That'll Be The Day 2. Blue Bayou 3. Silver Threads & Golden Needles 4. Willin' 5. Faithless Love 6. It Doesn't Matter Anymore 7. When Will I Be Loved 8. Crazy 9. Poor Poor Pitiful Me 10. Desperado 11. Love Me Tender 12. Simple Man, Simple Dream 13. Love Is A Rose 14. Maybe I'm Right 15. It's So Easy 16. Someone To Lay Down Beside Me 17. Tumbling Dice 18. You're No Good 19. Sorrow Lives Here 20. Heatwave Just out of curiousity, do you know in which countries Linda's Atlanta, Georgia concert was broadcast? I don't remember a US broadcast of the concert but think the Atlanta concert may have been intended as the CBS television special. As I recall, Linda's tv special was supposed to be one hour in length but in reality, it would've been about forty-eight minutes after subtracting the time slotted for the commercials. If the Atlanta, GA was meant as the tv special, some of the songs would had to have been edited out. That, or they would had to have expanded the special to about ninety minutes to maybe two hours. And maybe that's the reason why Linda's tv special for CBS never came about. An aside here to the above setlist: I remember seeing a video on youtube of Linda performing "Hasten Down the Wind" which I thought was from the Atlanta concert. It wasn't from the concert in Germany as it had some very poor sound and color and think the person who posted it said it was from the Atlanta concert. An outtake? There was one or two things different from the (Atlanta) performance of HDTW from the version performed in Germany, but it's possible the version of HDTW credited to Atlanta may have been from another location because Linda did have the same clothing on. |
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Post by charlotte on Jul 12, 2014 13:00:32 GMT -5
Loved those bootlegs back in the day - especially Star Spangled Girl. Another is " Wishing I Was a Cub Scout" - 1974 My Father's Place Roslyn, Long Island New York. There are some other great 70s concerts available. I have about a dozen cassette recordings that we were trading of shows from the 70s including the LA Amphitheater, Radio City Music Hall, Nassau Coliseum, Boston etc. ( Haven't listened to them in decades though I remember most were very noisy audience recordings) One of my favorite live bootlegs is with Gram Parsons and The Byrds singing "Break My Mind" with Clarence White on guitar. Yet it still seems LR was not concerned with archiving, in any formal manner, the live performances. The raw material is out there - and sound board recordings are often held -so some enterprising engineer and producer could deliver a legit release. As far as LR herself - could never really understand what her control over her catalog or live footage was - none the less we would love for the public to hear those pipes in concert. Anyone here know of a bootleg from the 90s or Linda's shows at The Beacon Theater in NY - I saw a great version of "I keep it Hid" on YouTUBE.
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Post by Moon on Jul 12, 2014 17:31:51 GMT -5
There is potential for some live recordings!
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Post by MokyWI on Jul 12, 2014 17:54:24 GMT -5
Then there is that video/audio recording from the Orpheum Theatre in Boston on the Feels Like Home Tour in May of 1995. Not professional, but the recording could possibly be tweaked for release, and besides I am sure the Feels Like Home Tour was professionally recorded audio wise. I would imagine they did so for each major tour. So much to be gained from doing so even if there is no releasing anything from those live recordings for commercial purposes. That concert (Feels Like Home Tour/Boston) is a great recording even though not professionally filmed/recorded. I feel very lucky to have it and thanks so much for making that available to us die hard fans here on the site. I saw all the California shows and went back stage for them all as well. To have a recording of that tour is wonderful. Forever grateful to Mark Islam for those shows.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 18:38:56 GMT -5
Why not release the HBO concert for the Mad Love tour on DVD?
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Post by MokyWI on Jul 12, 2014 19:08:55 GMT -5
I never understood that one. Stevie Nicks did her HBO Concert for her first album at the end of a very short tour. That has generated money in the last 20 years for someone.
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Post by erik on Jul 12, 2014 20:56:52 GMT -5
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Again, I have to say it's one of those things I wish Linda would reconsider her stand on. There's modesty, and then there's extreme self-deprecation; and sometimes I think with Linda it's the latter--and unnecessarily so (IMHO).
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Post by Moon on Jul 13, 2014 0:06:00 GMT -5
Fun forum. Thanks for letting anyone join in. I enjoy reading all the Linda information loop
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Post by fabtastique on Jul 13, 2014 1:34:11 GMT -5
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Post by simpledream on Jul 13, 2014 6:52:15 GMT -5
Seeking assistance to access link to entire concert. with thanks
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Why not a quality live disc or two. Her concerts, with few exceptions (everyone has an off night), were triumphs and vocally stunning. Throw in some Nelson Riddle, some tunes in Spanish, maybe Texas Girl at The Funeral of Her Father from the Randy Newman @the Odeon gig -something, anything. The lack of a legitimate live release is a travesty. The public is having a Ronstadt Renaissance of sorts, for a host of reasons - her health, passing of time, the fact that so many female performers can not really sing, but mainly because she has one of the most naturally gorgeous voices in the history of American popular music - genre be damned. Perhaps someone can send word to John Boylan and say "enough is enough" -time has come to give the people LINDA LIVE!
