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Post by bruno on May 22, 2014 15:55:36 GMT -5
Here's a question to all you LR enthusiasts out there - is anyone aware of a live video that might exist of Linda performing "Try Me Again" This song absolutely makes me melt, and I'd love to see my "It Girl" singing this in person. Just thought I'd give it a shot!
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 15:59:27 GMT -5
I haven't found one but long time Linda fan Trisha Yearwood does it justice...
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Post by erik on May 22, 2014 17:35:52 GMT -5
Trisha does indeed do that song justice (IMHO). And while it might be tempting to say that Trisha's reasons for doing it had everything to do with Linda having written the song, there aren't that many that could do it like this.
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Post by charlotte on May 24, 2014 10:41:00 GMT -5
Boy I would love to hear a live performance by Linda of Try Me Again. Not sure I have ever heard one. Do not recall her singing it on the Hasten Down the Wind tour. Perhaps it would have been too intense - being one of the greatest rip your heart out songs and my single favorite recording of Linda's. First time I have ever heard Trisha's version - wonderful - she seems to be a disciple of Linda in the most earnest way and a real singer.
Erik, you seem to know what remains of quality country and roots girl singers, who would you recommend? Thanx
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Post by erik on May 24, 2014 11:32:48 GMT -5
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Right off the top, I (and Robert) would say Tift Merritt (not as big a voice as Linda's [but that goes without saying], but a real understanding of music), and my most recent favorite, Caitlin Rose (whose mom ghost-writes with T-Swift).
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Post by POP80 on May 24, 2014 11:52:48 GMT -5
Trisha does indeed do that song justice (IMHO). And while it might be tempting to say that Trisha's reasons for doing it had everything to do with Linda having written the song, there aren't that many that could do it like this.
That's a great rendition by Trisha. I wonder if Linda has ever seen this video. That song is a killer...
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2014 13:33:36 GMT -5
I have to agree with Erik re: Tift Merritt... Erik has stated that she may be the best singer to come out this decade, and I can't argue with him... This song from her first album shows what modern country COULD be...
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Post by POP80 on May 24, 2014 14:57:26 GMT -5
Right off the top, I (and Robert) would say Tift Merritt (not as big a voice as Linda's [but that goes without saying], but a real understanding of music), and my most recent favorite, Caitlin Rose (whose mom ghost-writes with T-Swift).
Caitlin Rose reminds me a little of Lucy Roche Wainwright (IMHO).
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 24, 2014 16:51:13 GMT -5
maybe linda can do some more songwriting since she has more writing experience with the memoir. this song alone shows that she has songwriting talent. it is a great power rock ballad. eddiejinnj
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Post by erik on May 24, 2014 18:45:11 GMT -5
Quote by Charlotte:
I think Linda may have done it for that particular tour in 1976, but at some point she found the song much too personal to her. I can surely understand her feelings in this respect, though she did admit later to Debbie Krueger, in 1998, that it was a well-written song, which it is. And Trisha has never made any bones about being a disciple of Linda's, having stated just a few months ago that Linda was the inspirational spark that made Trisha want to pursue a singing career.
Tift, whom Robert and I have been championing since her 2002 debut album Bramble Rose (which is where you can find "Virginia [No One Can Warn You]"), also has a great feel for Linda and her classic 1970s country-rock albums. She is much more of an Americana/alt-country singer, but God knows that's not bad.
Caitlin is also an unabashed LR fan (and only 26, going on 27 [her birthday is June 23rd]), and has done several of Linda's songs in her live shows: "Love Has No Pride"; "Carmelita"; "He Dark The Sun". Her most recent album, last year's The Stand-In, has a number of songs that show Linda's influence, including "Dallas" and "Golden Boy."
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Post by charlotte on May 26, 2014 17:39:00 GMT -5
www.goldminemag.com/article/mandy-barnett-makes-mark-modern-country-musicWill certainly begin to explore Caitlin and Tiff. Thanx for the recommendations. Have not cared too much for a new female vocalist in eons. Next to Linda my favorite is Chrissie Hynde - but that's a whole other ball of wax. Have any of you folks heard of Mandy Barnett? She cites Linda Ronstadt as her biggest influence in this new interview in Goldmine magazine. She performed a Patsy Cline tribute for some time in Nashville - no easy task. Seems a bit older but a throwback big voiced ballad singer with a new album of Don Gibson tunes.
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Post by erik on May 26, 2014 18:45:27 GMT -5
Quote by charlotte re. Mandy Barnett:
Mandy definitely has the right idea about Linda and her M.O., so I think we can consider her part of Linda's following among her fellow female thespian peers.
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Post by Richard W on May 27, 2014 10:12:05 GMT -5
Mandy is great and is a dead-ringer at times for Patsy Cline. If you like traditional country music -- especially with that Owen Bradley sound, which you'll hear on Cline's records -- you'll fall for her. I'd highly recommend her album, "I've Got a Right to Cry." Great record. GM: The garbage emanating from today’s so-called “country” formats on both TV and radio is giving real country music a bad name. So many friends of mine here in the Northeast, say, “I don’t like country music,” and it’s just that they don’t know country music. All they’re hearing is that crap that you and I try to avoid. I tell them, “I could make you a mix tape and you will, indeed, love country music.” MB: It’s sorta like reality TV. Anyone can become a star. It’s all about a look and a sound. It’s not about having long careers anymore. It’s about manufacturing an easy hit. BAM!
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Post by Partridge on May 27, 2014 16:34:20 GMT -5
A new artist I like quite a bit is Brandy Clark- here's a sample:
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Post by Richard W on May 27, 2014 16:58:23 GMT -5
Thanks, Tony! I like her, too.
Linda singing "Try Me Again" live is the holy grail of bootlegs. I saw her twice in 1977 and, while she did perform "Lo Siento Mi Vida", she didn't perform TMA.
In the meantime, Trisha fills the bill nicely. I like that extended gospel arrangement, of which Linda's studio version has a taste.
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Post by Dianna on May 27, 2014 23:38:10 GMT -5
Brandy has a good voice.. but she sounds a lot like Martina
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Post by erik on May 28, 2014 9:03:24 GMT -5
Quote by Richard W. re. Trisha's version of "Try Me Again":
Funny, but that's the only part of Trisha's version of it that I'm not crazy about; I think it's a touch OTT (Over The Top). The rest, I do like.
Quote by Dianna re. Brandy Clark:
A little bit, minus Martina's penchant for wanting to hit high notes. Incidentally, Brandy is one of those women in Nashville whose songs are trying to break the stranglehold that this godawful "bro country" s**t has on the country genre.
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Post by sliderocker on May 28, 2014 9:24:54 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna re. Brandy Clark: A little bit, minus Martina's penchant for wanting to hit high notes. Incidentally, Brandy is one of those women in Nashville whose songs are trying to break the stranglehold that this godawful "bro country" s**t has on the country genre. Probably won't work. Nashville typically doesn't give up on a successful sound until it has run that sound into the ground, and maybe not even then. "Bro country" is likely to be the king of the Nashville hill until something else can come along to knock "Bro country" off that hill. And I think that would have to be a person or group with a lot of talent and charisma that would be too big to ignore. It may be Brandy Clark but I don't think it's her time just yet. Maybe later down the road.
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Post by Dianna on May 28, 2014 11:26:23 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna re. Brandy Clark: A little bit, minus Martina's penchant for wanting to hit high notes. Incidentally, Brandy is one of those women in Nashville whose songs are trying to break the stranglehold that this godawful "bro country" s**t has on the country genre. Probably won't work. Nashville typically doesn't give up on a successful sound until it has run that sound into the ground, and maybe not even then. "Bro country" is likely to be the king of the Nashville hill until something else can come along to knock "Bro country" off that hill. And I think that would have to be a person or group with a lot of talent and charisma that would be too big to ignore. It may be Brandy Clark but I don't think it's her time just yet. Maybe later down the road. Brandy is more of a "throwback" I agree with everyone in regards to today's country or most of it as you guys put it "bro country" The way it's going it's gonna get edgier before it goes retro..
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Post by sliderocker on May 28, 2014 11:38:26 GMT -5
Brandy is more of a "throwback" I agree with everyone in regards to today's country or most of it as you guys put it "bro country" The way it's going it's gonna get edgier before it goes retro.. I've no doubt country will get edgier but I don't know that it'll ever get back (or retro) to what it was before "Bro country." I think if it ever did, Nashville would still find a way to suck the life out of it. It's like how rock and roll is. I wish rock would retro back to the way it was in the 60s and early to mid 70s. Both genres have lost something over the years and both keep losing something as time goes on.
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Post by Dianna on May 28, 2014 12:41:20 GMT -5
Brandy is more of a "throwback" I agree with everyone in regards to today's country or most of it as you guys put it "bro country" The way it's going it's gonna get edgier before it goes retro.. I've no doubt country will get edgier but I don't know that it'll ever get back (or retro) to what it was before "Bro country." I think if it ever did, Nashville would still find a way to suck the life out of it. It's like how rock and roll is. I wish rock would retro back to the way it was in the 60s and early to mid 70s. Both genres have lost something over the years and both keep losing something as time goes on. Yeah. I hate to break it to those optimistic but I don't see it going backwards.. of course ,we will still have the classics and others like Brandy ect who have their own little niche and cater to those who prefer the older style. i remember listening to Merle Haggard's. fighting side of me .I like that song because it doesn't sound contrived like all the so patriotic bro country songs these days... Country Music and Rock needs to be shaken up again and changed because there really isn't anything exciting going on
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Post by erik on May 28, 2014 18:25:23 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
Obviously there's no point in going backwards. But as Linda helped to prove, a balance between traditional and progressive sounds can be struck, and struck successfully. I don't think Brandy is one of those who thinks of herself as one day having T-Swift numbers, but anything that doesn't sound like this hideous "bro country" (really just bad Southern rock with hick-hop, while true country instruments like the banjo are dronwed under walls of loud electric guitars) is a true change of scenery (IMHO).
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Post by Dianna on May 28, 2014 18:51:35 GMT -5
No there is no point in going back.. I think this gal is pretty much the direction of new country music.. Ive heard some describe her as "hipster country" she's already pretty popular so who the hell knows
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Post by erik on May 28, 2014 20:16:09 GMT -5
Yes, both Kacey and Brandi are something of a pair in the Nashville songwriting circles (the two of them collaborated on Miranda Lambert's "Mama's Broken Heart", though, truth be told, I'm not anything of a fan of Mrs. Lambert's, let alone that "bro country"-propagating hubby she's married to).
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Post by Dianna on May 28, 2014 20:44:25 GMT -5
well I personally like miss musgraves.. she's young and fresh..interesting to watch. her songs are catchy and she's pretty.
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Post by sliderocker on May 29, 2014 0:46:35 GMT -5
Yeah. I hate to break it to those optimistic but I don't see it going backwards.. of course ,we will still have the classics and others like Brandy ect who have their own little niche and cater to those who prefer the older style. i remember listening to Merle Haggard's. fighting side of me .I like that song because it doesn't sound contrived like all the so patriotic bro country songs these days... Country Music and Rock needs to be shaken up again and changed because there really isn't anything exciting going on I've sometimes thought the music business is perhaps too afraid of having new musical giants who would come in and shake things up all over again. It's like they don't want anyone coming along and replacing or trying to replace those who came first. I've always believed that in rock, there should be a new Elvis, new Beatles, new Linda, etc - and in country, a new Merle, a new Buck, new George (Jones) new Patsy/Tammy, etc., but it's just not happening. It won't happen because the music business no longer builds careers the way they used to. Now, they look for artists who can sell in the tens of millions on their first release and maybe a few after that, but they're not committed to the artists in the long run. The way it's done these days, artists who sell in the tens of millions usually have a "wear out their welcome" factor going. Fans get tired of hearing them and seeing them. Of course, that's no great loss with some artists but an immense relief. But, I don't think there'll be another Elvis/Beatles/Linda/etc (and their country equivalents) in our lifetime or in the lives of future generations. Those days are gone.
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Post by Richard W on May 29, 2014 8:19:32 GMT -5
But anyway...
Try Me Again is a fabulous song, and not just because Linda wrote it. This is proven when the song is filtered through someone else, in this instance, Yearwood. Essentially stripped of the single Linda connection (the album version), the song stands on its own very sturdy legs and boy, does it give a singer something to work with!
But what I wouldn't give to hear Linda interpreting her own song (is that possible?) live, broken out of the studio confines and set loose.
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Post by POP80 on May 29, 2014 8:26:25 GMT -5
But what I wouldn't give to hear Linda interpreting her own song (is that possible?) live, broken out of the studio confines and set loose.
Amen to that--TMA would never be TMI.
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Post by Partridge on May 29, 2014 8:48:55 GMT -5
well I personally like miss musgraves.. she's young and fresh..interesting to watch. her songs are catchy and she's pretty. I like her too, and if I'm not mistaken, she co-wrote that song with Brandy Clark and Mac Mac. There seems to be a lot of committee songwriting in Nashville these days, but this particular group is breaking away from the trucks/drinking&partying topics. Apparently I was mistaken--- not Mac Mac but Shane Mac.
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Post by POP80 on May 29, 2014 10:59:18 GMT -5
maybe linda can do some more songwriting since she has more writing experience with the memoir. this song alone shows that she has songwriting talent. it is a great power rock ballad.
Interesting looking back at what Linda said in People Magazine in 12/76:
"I'm not a writer and never will be," she says, "but there's no harm in trying to come up with something and throwing it on the wall to see if it sticks."
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