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Post by eddiejinnj on May 13, 2023 13:29:20 GMT -5
I liked the Hummin' review though she had done the Riddle Trilogy TWO decades before and they diss Mad Love which I love madly. lol eddiejinnj
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Post by Dianna on May 13, 2023 17:28:31 GMT -5
Oy, that interview. I know we've discussed that interview at some point in the past. You would think... whoever did the interview would schmooze it up some, this was, afterall, Linda Ronstadt.. What a clown. ICK
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Post by LindaFan5 on May 13, 2023 18:59:58 GMT -5
That interview was poorly conducted. Linda from the 1990s on tended to be a very guarded interview subject, with a few interesting exceptions. The interviewers who had the most success with her gwt a lengthy amount of time to talk to her, and she invariably warms up or says more than usual. When she spoke to Tavis Smiley we learned she made out with Marvin Gaye backstage at the Motown Special. I teresti g nugget there. A recent lengthy radio interview with a host that Linda barely tolerated resulted in some revelations we discussed here already. She said none of your f-ing business a lot but she wound up candidly answering questions others would not have dared asked her. In that respect he was a good interviewer because you want something new, not to violate her privacy but to better understand her perspectives. She likes smart people. You have to be intelligent and hold your own to interview her. She likes talking politics, civil rights and music. Ask about how those things relate to her personally at a particular time in her life and she just might say something new.
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Post by erik on May 14, 2023 12:08:09 GMT -5
Quote by RobGNYC:
I think it started when they moved their base of operations to New York, as their attitudes towards West Coast artists like Linda became snarkier and snarkier into the 1980's and 1990's. And it almost seems so conspiratorial to say, but I wonder if Jann Wenner was the one who gave Chris Mundy his marching orders to ask the kinds of questions he asked Linda.
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Post by Partridge on May 15, 2023 21:39:50 GMT -5
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 16, 2023 10:27:59 GMT -5
I am not sure if I ever saw the above Time magazine article. I didn't know that they were paid such a low wage for the film. Some great behind the scenes info I didn't know. Thanks for posting, Boss!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by erik on May 16, 2023 18:25:06 GMT -5
Quote by eddiejinnj:
I think Linda and her fellow cast members were pretty much doing this for a lark; and certainly Linda had no illusions about her acting; she wasn't going to give Jane Fonda or Meryl Streep any sleepless nights in that department
In any case, it wasn't exactly an inexpensive movie at $10 million (at least not back then; today, no one would even blanche if a film only cost that much); and it was a combination of operetta and pirate movie that probably didn't have all that much in the way of box office potential to start with--although Universal did itself no favors by releasing it to theaters and showing it on pay-per-view cable television in February 1983.
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 17, 2023 14:38:18 GMT -5
We have discussed that it seems to have been a mistake to release it to pay per view and theaters at the same time. It was THE first movie released to pay per view but it obviously was a new form of media. I will have to look and see what the movie made overall. eddiejinnj
PS: I looked on Wiki and it said it did just under $695,000 Box office. I would guess it included the pay per view but maybe not. What do others think?
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Post by erik on May 17, 2023 17:56:23 GMT -5
Quote by eddiejinnj:
If such a figure is true, then Universal took a big hit in the wallet, because that would count as, to put it in a politically correct way, a big box office disappointment.
I have seen The Pirates Of Penzance twice on TV; and while it isn't West Side Story, it also is a long way from being a total artistic disaster. Linda's singing is, of course, off the chart; while her acting, though again it won't give Jane Fonda or Meryl Streep any sleepless nights, is reasonably good, given the stiffness of what, again, is a combination operetta and pirate movie.
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Post by Partridge on May 17, 2023 23:51:53 GMT -5
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 18, 2023 17:35:11 GMT -5
Thanks for posting, Boss!!! So it did $1 million in pay per view plus supposedly the box office did better according to the author who quoted Joseph Papp.
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Post by Partridge on May 19, 2023 0:41:28 GMT -5
At that point in time, only 1.2 million people could get pay-per-view. I am surprised that even 10% of them signed up to see this movie which had limited appeal. The studio knew that theaters were going to refuse to book the movie because they did not like pay-per-view availability on the same day. But if the pay-per-view had not even existed, people were not going to flock to the theaters to see an operetta. Because of the theaters boycotting the movie, I don't think it ever played even one theater in my state.
I said at the time, and I still think so today, that if the studios wanted to test same-day pay-per-view and theater, they should have done it with a Star Wars movie.
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 19, 2023 16:52:01 GMT -5
Considering people's differing tastes and the fact that that form of media was brand new, I don't think 10% was really that bad all things considered. Maybe, I am being an optimist. I think the fact that theaters were being resistant to this new form of media certainly did help things as has been said and I agree.
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Post by Partridge on May 21, 2023 20:03:51 GMT -5
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 22, 2023 9:18:42 GMT -5
I have that in my memorabilia collection. I love that photo. eddiejinnj
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Post by Partridge on Jun 8, 2023 21:44:03 GMT -5
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jun 9, 2023 17:26:42 GMT -5
I don't remember "chick" or "chick singer" being used so much back then. Maybe, I did but was just used to it. eddiejinnj
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Post by RobGNYC on Jun 9, 2023 20:25:37 GMT -5
I don't remember "chick" or "chick singer" being used so much back then. Maybe, I did but was just used to it. eddiejinnj For me, what would have been completely natural coming from Janis or Bonnie Bramlett sounds from Linda like trying a bit too hard to be tough/cool. Maybe Linda really did talk like that back then but it sounds somewhat forced to me now. |
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Post by Partridge on Jun 9, 2023 20:52:11 GMT -5
Maybe Linda really did talk like that back then but it sounds somewhat forced to me now. And that's probably why, throughout all of the '70s, even though Linda was my favorite singer, I thought she was a bit of a ditz. |
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Post by erik on Jun 9, 2023 21:50:38 GMT -5
Quote by partridge:
In all good honesty, Linda wouldn't have been the first woman in her profession to be accused of ditziness; and she damned sure wasn't the last (Britney Spears, anybody?).
Just speaking in terms of Linda, however, sometimes in interviews, whether baited by interviewers (like Chris Mundy's 1995 Rolling Stone "hit piece") or because of a loose tongue, she shoots herself in the foot with sometimes hopped-up, ungracious, seemingly mean-spirited, and sometimes blisteringly inaccurate things. It's disheartening to point this out on those few occasions when it happens, but I am not going to ignore it when it happens just to make people happy.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 10, 2023 4:29:30 GMT -5
For me, what would have been completely natural coming from Janis or Bonnie Bramlett sounds from Linda like trying a bit too hard to be tough/cool. Maybe Linda really did talk like that back then but it sounds somewhat forced to me now. Some of those early articles from the early-mid 70's She would also use "Groovy," lol Which would be synonymous in present day as "Awesome." And in the 80's it was Bitchin or radical. |
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Post by PoP80 on Jun 10, 2023 8:20:43 GMT -5
Also, she uses the word "chicks" which is so outdated and offensive by today's standards. I think Linda enjoyed trying to shock people and acting rebellious when she was younger.
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 10, 2023 9:31:29 GMT -5
Also, she uses the word "chicks" which is so outdated and offensive by today's standards. I think Linda enjoyed trying to shock people and acting rebellious when she was younger. Pretty common thing to do at that age. Lots of us go through that till we mature enough to know better. It’s not just young performers that do it. |
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Post by RobGNYC on Jun 10, 2023 9:50:01 GMT -5
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 10, 2023 12:36:11 GMT -5
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Post by RobGNYC on Jun 10, 2023 12:51:23 GMT -5
That "chick" isn't a word that Linda used only when she was young. |
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 10, 2023 15:58:24 GMT -5
That "chick" isn't a word that Linda used only when she was young. How dare she! Please… |
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jun 11, 2023 9:11:42 GMT -5
I didn't know she said that in 1995. Things that make you go hmmmmmm!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by erik on Jun 11, 2023 12:50:00 GMT -5
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And let's not forget that there's still a female trio out there that calls itself "The Chicks" (they removed "Dixie" from the name several years ago).
Linda has also been known to use the word "babe" in recent interviews, especially when she noted back in 2006 that women who weren't young and nubile could hardly be expected to have the same success in the music industry as those half their age or shape, or, for that matter, shoe size:
"The women's movement has run into a bit of a brick wall. You almost can't be successful now if you're not a babe."
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