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Post by Richard W on May 21, 2015 10:28:15 GMT -5
The 2nd question on the show last night in the Rock Music category was: The Eagles were originally formed as the band of what female singer?
The main contestant didn't know, but the challenger did: "Linda Ronstadt, man!"
Nice to see her name pop up in something like this.
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Post by erik on May 21, 2015 11:51:03 GMT -5
Yes, but it does show once again what Gore Vidal once said--"We live in the United States of Amnesia."
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Post by Richard W on May 21, 2015 12:21:38 GMT -5
What's funny is that the main contestant, who didn't know the answer, guessed all around Linda: Grace Slick, Joni Mitchell, etc.
The challenger knew, and was beaming as he said her name. The main contestant made a snark about the challenger knowing the answer because he was older; turned out the main contestant was older than the challenger.
Odd how the main contestant would say something ageist like that, when his two strongest categories were Asian History and The Bible.
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Post by rick on May 21, 2015 13:39:30 GMT -5
What's funny is that the main contestant, who didn't know the answer, guessed all around Linda: Grace Slick, Joni Mitchell, etc. The challenger knew, and was beaming as he said her name. The main contestant made a snark about the challenger knowing the answer because he was older; turned out the main contestant was older than the challenger. Odd how the main contestant would say something ageist like that, when his two strongest categories were Asian History and The Bible. Richard, I DVR'd the new game show and have yet to watch the first episode but plan to tonight along with tonight's new episode. That host Richard Quest is on CNN International. Richard Quest bio As for what you said about the main contestant... sorry, have to get this dig in.... it is shocking that anyone who is so Biblically oriented would ever be mean-spirited. |
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Post by Grumbler on May 21, 2015 13:50:12 GMT -5
The reason people don't know that is because "classic rock" radio plays the hell out of Eagles songs, even the country ones like "Lying Eyes." But they don't even play authentic classic rock by Linda Ronstadt such as Tumbling Dice or Poor Poor Pitiful Me or even You're No Good. That's because they perceive her as an adult contemporary singer because she dared to venture outside of rock. Yet they play adult contemporary songs by artists such as Fleetwood Mac or Elton John all day long. Living female artists not in a band can't get played.
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Post by Richard W on May 21, 2015 14:17:21 GMT -5
The reason people don't know that is because "classic rock" radio plays the hell out of Eagles songs, even the country ones like "Lying Eyes." But they don't even play authentic classic rock by Linda Ronstadt such as Tumbling Dice or Poor Poor Pitiful Me or even You're No Good. That's because they perceive her as an adult contemporary singer because she dared to venture outside of rock. Yet they play adult contemporary songs by artists such as Fleetwood Mac or Elton John all day long. Living female artists not in a band can't get played. Astute observation. And I would add James Taylor, who rarely rocked, and never as hard as Linda. |
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Post by Dianna on May 21, 2015 14:51:39 GMT -5
The reason people don't know that is because "classic rock" radio plays the hell out of Eagles songs, even the country ones like "Lying Eyes." But they don't even play authentic classic rock by Linda Ronstadt such as Tumbling Dice or Poor Poor Pitiful Me or even You're No Good. That's because they perceive her as an adult contemporary singer because she dared to venture outside of rock. Yet they play adult contemporary songs by artists such as Fleetwood Mac or Elton John all day long. Living female artists not in a band can't get played. True.. and for crying out loud.. what about the "Mad Love?" album.. |
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 21, 2015 15:04:24 GMT -5
2 things: first, the person making the ageist remark was off-base as joni and grace are in Linda's age category. in fact I know slick is older. not sure about joni but they may be like a year or 2 apart. secondly, the quote champion was good at Asian history so he could be a number of faiths personally (or just know about Asian history) and knowing the Bible does not make you a Christian positively and the dig was uncalled for imo. the dig was mean-spirited. how does it make one (am speaking in generalities but how does it look when mean begets mean. I am offended by it. the guy was a poor sport lashed out and showed it. Great avatar Dianna!!!! eddiejinnj
Actually, thirdly, I am surprised the comment was not edited out of a brand new show. would think the producers/powers that be would not want that. I have never seen a game show where that occurred. you are supposed to be a good sport and not show disgust, disrespect of another contestant
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 21, 2015 15:10:39 GMT -5
I think that Linda, if anything, solidified her place as a rock singer with Mad Love and it was not a mistake as some critics may have said. the public/radio loved it. it was a good move on her part. eddiejinnj
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Post by Tony on May 21, 2015 20:48:58 GMT -5
The only time I've ever heard Linda on the local classic rock station (since the early '80s) is when they played Neil Young's easy-rock classic "Heart of Gold." And one time I heard the Warren Zevon song Excitable Boy that had Linda and Jennifer backgrounding.
I complained because they have a Rock A-to-Z playlist occasionally, playing artists alphabetically, and suggested they should include something by Bonnie Raitt or Linda Ronstadt. The program director said they were not rock singers, and that Linda's music didn't fit the "texture" of their station-- odd since it's the exact same texture as Neil Young, the Eagles, Warren Zevon, Jackson Browne, and many other artists with penises that they do play. (The program director was a woman.) I copped back that Linda was more rock than the bubble-gum Elton John music I had just heard in A to Z, and she seemed to agree, but for the most part, I was told to f*** off.
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Post by erik on May 21, 2015 21:47:58 GMT -5
Quote by Tony:
Once again, we must remember the words of Upton Sinclair in this context: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it."
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Post by sliderocker on May 21, 2015 22:13:23 GMT -5
2 things: first, the person making the ageist remark was off-base as joni and grace are in Linda's age category. in fact I know slick is older. not sure about joni but they may be like a year or 2 apart.
Grace Slick is the same age as Linda's late sister, born in 1939, making her roughly seven years older than Linda. Joni Mitchell was born in 1941, five years older than Linda. But, I consider them to be in Linda's age range much as I consider myself to be in Linda's age range. I'm eight years younger than Linda, which isn't that much of a difference, especially as one gets older. It was never an issue with me when I was in my teens and Linda was in her 20s. I loved her, still do.
secondly, the quote champion was good at Asian history so he could be a number of faiths personally (or just know about Asian history) and knowing the Bible does not make you a Christian positively and the dig was uncalled for imo. the dig was mean-spirited. how does it make one (am speaking in generalities but how does it look when mean begets mean. I am offended by it. the guy was a poor sport lashed out and showed it.
My guess would be the main contestant had a superficial knowledge of rock performers in general. Or maybe it bugged him that he knew but somehow ended up forgetting Linda's name. When one is on a tv game show, the pressure is tremendous. Look athe contestants who appear on "Jeopardy." To make it to the tv show, you have to score a 90 or higher in the pre-TV testing phase. Then, they get on the show and bomb or strike out altogether. The ones who make it to the Tv show are very smart people, but they're human. I'd also be willing to bet the main contestant was furious with himself and made the remark trying to be witty to cover his mistake. But, it was a pretty mean spirited remark.
Actually, thirdly, I am surprised the comment was not edited out of a brand new show. would think the producers/powers that be would not want that. I have never seen a game show where that occurred. you are supposed to be a good sport and not show disgust, disrespect of another contestant.
There was an article in TV Guide in the late 70s, written by a woman who had been a contestant on a game show. On TV, everyone looks like a good sport and are happy for the person who wins but the woman who wrote the article indicated some of the other contestants she was with were not so friendly and downright hostile. They wanted to win at all costs. It's kind of surprising an inappropriate remark wasn't edited out of the program but then we live in the reality TV show era of game shows where that kind of behavior may be encouraged, especially if it's on a non-network cable channel.
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Post by Partridge on May 21, 2015 22:59:12 GMT -5
Here's a link to download a short clip of the Ronstadt question- and his goofy remark about his generation: 1 of 500 questions |
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 22, 2015 5:41:39 GMT -5
am glad you think they in the same age range generation. somebody to love was in 67 like different drum which was late 67 to 68. "white rabbit" was after "somebody to love." correct? eddiejinnj
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Post by Tony on May 22, 2015 8:56:05 GMT -5
He said "That(Dave Grohl)'s more in my era - you know I'm not much for Linda Ronstadt." But all the guesses he made- Cher, Dolly, Grace Slick, Nancy Sinatra- none of those people were in his era either. They all achieved their first fame in the '60s. That's why I thought his remark was goofy.
But he is right-- a person his age would be more familiar with Dave Grohl, who came along approximately thirty years later than Linda Ronstadt.
But still I think this was a fairly easy question. Makes him sort of ignorant in the rock music category-- but then again Linda Ronstadt has for
the most part been excommunicated from rock radio.
How did he do in the long run? I didn't watch... I just couldn't get interested in the format of this game show.
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 22, 2015 10:15:00 GMT -5
he got through the first round and won $35,000. did he say i'm not much for Linda Ronstadt? I thought he said "I don't know much (ironic) about Linda Ronstadt." eddiejinnj
ps: I played the video and he said from what I could hear "that's more my area/era not so much the Linda Ronstadt". will listen to again and see if it area or era. based on what he said to the other contestant probably "era".
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Post by Dianna on May 22, 2015 13:44:23 GMT -5
Even if he didn't know the answer, at least he knew who she was. I find that a lot of people even around my age, when I mention Linda's name, they've heard of her name but can't place her immediately like they would Cher or Dolly..
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Post by Tony on May 22, 2015 14:33:39 GMT -5
True dat! And the blame for that can be placed with Linda. She never really marketed herself as a "celebrity"- she might have sold more records than Dolly or Cher but they are without a doubt bigger than life celebrities. And in today's market it's hard to sell a record based on just being a good singer, which is all Linda ever wanted to be.
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 22, 2015 15:22:57 GMT -5
I think people here have said they say the same thing about benatar and she does get played somewhat more than linda. though she doesn't have the amt of hits you just need one or two in moderate to heavy rotation to get more recognition. eddiejinnj
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