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Post by rick on Feb 7, 2015 17:49:31 GMT -5
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Post by Goldie on Feb 8, 2015 3:47:50 GMT -5
I wonder what Joni thinks of Bob now?
Joni Mitchell Returns, Clarifies Dylan Comments
Written by Andrew Leahey June 21st, 2013 at 10:18 am
Joni Mitchell doesn’t really like interviews. They take too long. They focus too heavily on her Blue period. And sometimes, they wind up pissing off millions of Bob Dylan fans.
“The interviewer was an asshole.” That’s a new quote from Mitchell, who recently sat down with CBC to clear up the whole Dylan thing. In case you haven’t been keeping up, a 2010 article by The Los Angeles Times quoted Mitchell as saying some naughty things about her fellow folkie. “Bob is not authentic at all,” she supposedly stated. “He’s a plagiarist, and his name and voice are fake. Everything about Bob is a deception. We are like night and day, he and I.” Dylan never issued an official response, but his fans lashed out. Some of them pointed to the number of times Mitchell had joined Dylan onstage throughout her career. Others posted YouTube links to her live performances of old Dylan classics like “Girl From the North Country” and “It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue.”
(In the same interview, Joni Mitchell also called out Grace Slick and Janis Joplin for “sleeping with their whole bands and falling down drunk.” She was on a roll that day! But we digress.)
In her recent sit-down with CBC, Mitchell didn’t exactly apologize for her remarks. Instead, she turned her anger toward L.A. Times author Matt Diehl, claiming the journalist had misconstrued her words. “I hate doing interviews with stupid people, and this guy’s a moron,” she said. As for Dylan, she added, ““I like a lot of Bob’s songs, though musically he’s not very gifted. He’s borrowed his voice from old hillbillies. He’s got a lot of borrowed things. He’s not a great guitar player. He’s invented a character to deliver his songs. Sometimes I wish that I could have that character — because you can do things with that character. It’s a mask of sorts.”
What do you think? Can you drive a big yellow taxi through the holes in Joni’s argument, or does she have a point? Weigh in!
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Post by erik on Feb 8, 2015 12:07:09 GMT -5
I would have thought that, after being in this business almost as long as Linda has, Joni would know how easy it is for her to be misquoted in the media, whether the guy's a moron or Woodward and Bernstein. She is often thought of as being a narcissist; and this just may spread that perception a little bit further (IMHO).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 13:34:08 GMT -5
I have the utmost respect for Joni as an artist, though she does not seem to have any filter. She is either refreshingly honest, or self centered and abrasive depending on ones point of view. She seems to say what a lot of people think but do not say. I am not judging her for it, but if she comes out with a controversial opinion, just stand by it later on...
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Post by rick on Feb 8, 2015 14:25:36 GMT -5
I have the utmost respect for Joni as an artist, though she does not seem to have any filter. She is either refreshingly honest, or self centered and abrasive depending on ones point of view. She seems to say what a lot of people think but do not say. I am not judging her for it, but if she comes out with a controversial opinion, just stand by it later on... Robert, I think Joni is an incredible artist. I was driving yesterday and KCRW here in L.A. played "A Case of You," "Trouble Child," and "Court and Spark" in a row off of her 4-CD box set. It reminded me of how much I listened to her growing up and what touchstones those albums were in my youth. I think she actually has claimed to suffer from Morgellons in which she believes that parasites and things are crawling all over her. I think there may be reasons why she "acts out" or speaks out this way. Perhaps it is attention-seeking. I don't know. But, Robert, since you seem to be a Dylan fan, can we bring this thread back to Dylan instead of the offshoot of what Joni Mitchell once said about him? What did you think of his remarks? Here is another article about the MusiCares tribute to Dylan -- Billboard's coverage of Grammys MusiCares tribute to Bob Dylan A brief highlight from this piece -- <snip> "I can die happily now," said Bonnie Raitt, after Dylan selected her to sing "Standing on the Doorway," a song she covered on 2012's Slipstream, "because he said he just loved the way I did it." Raitt, who has known Dylan since she was 19, was so pumped after Thursday's rehearsals, she went home and re-read his memoir, Chronicles. As big a fan as she is, she admitted that she can't listen to his music when she gets ready to write for a new album "because it will make me too intimidated, but he's been an incredible inspiration." <snip> |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 17:59:06 GMT -5
well, I was responding to Goldie's request for opinions on Joni... Returning to Dylan, I thought he was being honest and less opaque than usual... They sure broke the mold when he was born...
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Post by Dianna on Feb 9, 2015 20:59:05 GMT -5
I wasn't crazy about what Dylan said about Merle Haggard either.
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Post by erik on Feb 9, 2015 21:09:18 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
I don't think that was too sharp of him either, quite frankly. I am worried that, in his emeritus years, he may have belatedly developed an ego.
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Post by jhar26 on Mar 3, 2015 3:28:20 GMT -5
I don't think that Dylan is playing Dylan - he IS what we see in my opinion. Other than that Joni has a point. He has indeed borrowed stuff from those that preceded him. But that's simply part of the folk tradition, as it is with all other roots genres. One could just as easily say that todays blues artists are still building on the music of Robert Johnson. That would be true, but at the same time you'd go, "duh?", because that's hardly news. And she's right that he's no Page, Hendrix or Clapton on the guitar - but he doesn't have to be. Dylan has nevertheless created arguably the most impressive body of work of anyone active these past fifty plus years. But he's more the Shakespeare than the Mozart of rock, so to speak. Joni's own music has perhaps been more adventurous because of her passion for jazz. She would be number two or three on my list of alltime great singer/songwriters (with Dylan and Neil Young). So both are very awesome but also very different.
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Post by peter23 on Aug 18, 2015 3:47:46 GMT -5
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Post by Goldie on Aug 19, 2015 0:42:45 GMT -5
I have always thought of Dylan as a modern day Woody Guthrie who borrowed just about everything.
I chose that song for obvious reasons. Neither compare to Linda's version but who am I to say?
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