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Post by rick on Oct 6, 2014 1:02:20 GMT -5
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Post by erik on Oct 6, 2014 8:58:44 GMT -5
I'm glad for her being able to return to her hometown and be very open about the things she's experienced in her life, and what Tucson still means to her. And for all the "dissing" she's allegedly done about the city in recent months, she clearly still reveres things about it--while a lot of others might worship on the altar of "Progress" and b**ch about why she supposedly doesn't...at least not in the way they think she ought to.
At the same time, though, I thought it nice of her to open up about those aspects of the early part of her career, like helping get the Eagles their start, that made her such a revered and generous person in a music business that isn't historically known for either reverence (until someone dies) or generosity.
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Post by charlotte on Oct 6, 2014 9:32:14 GMT -5
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Post by sliderocker on Oct 6, 2014 10:07:45 GMT -5
I'd like to read quite a bit more on what she was asked and what her responses were, which the articles so far have provided very little on, although all are appreciated. So far, I've only read one comment in the comment section, from the pro-progress type Erik refers to and that person wasn't dissing Linda at all but politely disagreeing and explaining what progress had meant to him personally. He'll probably prove to be the exception to the rule as more comments are posted.
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Post by POP80 on Oct 6, 2014 11:25:31 GMT -5
I remember years ago Ed Koch, Mayor of NY, saying he would listen to Ronstadt songs ever night before bed. I never knew that Ed Koch was a fan of Linda's. I didn't always agree with his politics, but he had great taste in music.
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Post by The ExTerminator on Oct 6, 2014 17:40:31 GMT -5
Commenter Rich Taylor clearly has a bigger bug up his a$$ than Linda does.
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Post by Richard W on Oct 6, 2014 18:29:03 GMT -5
Thanks, Charlotte.
There is a 2 minute plus TV station video, with some of Linda's responses, in the photos.
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Post by erik on Oct 6, 2014 21:03:01 GMT -5
Quote by The ExTerminator:
Yes, people like him are like hemorrhoids, a genuine pain in the a**.
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Post by simpledream on Oct 7, 2014 4:09:11 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing the links. I hope it has been recorded and we may see the full event.
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Post by charlotte on Oct 9, 2014 11:37:42 GMT -5
www.axs.com/news/linda-ronstadt-conjures-up-memories-from-the-past-at-the-fox-theatre-22628#slide=9A not so perfect "transcript" from Sunday's hometown conversation with Linda. There are clearly mistakes, typos etc. in this translation but you'll get the main essence. What a wonderful joyous event - wonder if KGUN (don't like those call letters) taped the whole shebang? Her answer to the request for a LIVE recording is discouraging for me. Linda looks and sounds wonderful though all things being considered. So what more could you ask for?
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Post by sliderocker on Oct 9, 2014 13:05:26 GMT -5
Not so "perfect" is an apt description but it provides a lot more of the conversations than the earlier stories. Thank you, Charlotte! Must admit I did get a laugh when Linda said she never did "Hee Haw." Someone is probably going to have to show her the episode of "Hee Haw" in which she appeared, singing "Are My Thoughts with You." Curiously, I think she also had no recollection of singing with Neil Diamond, although she did - along with Glen Campbell on Campbell's tv show. I have to wonder whether she's just forgetful or has a selective memory or if her health issues are affecting her memory? She mentioned Joan Baez singing "Different Drum" with the Greenbriar Boys yet I remember listening to their version on youtube but don't remember hearing Baez or any female performer on their version. Linda does seem to have a sharp memory but that she doesn't remember doing some of the things she did is a little concerning. Hope there isn't something else wrong with her.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Oct 9, 2014 16:43:17 GMT -5
she has been forgetful of some things over the years re: details like the hee haw one. her early years being so busy, she may have just forgotten which shows she did and didn't. am not a medical dr.but she has been forgetful in certain ways for yrs. I think she has said that before re: hee haw. shame she forgot she did a sketch with the great jimmy durante. eddiejinnj
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Post by Richard W on Oct 9, 2014 16:44:34 GMT -5
Well, she did so many concerts, TV appearances, guest vocals, etc., that you can't really blame her (or illness) for forgetting some of them. "Hee-Haw" was certainly one of her most unmemorable appearances—even if I do remember seeing it.
I thought it was Leo Sayer she denied performing with, not Neil Diamond. Perhaps both? Frankly, I'd like to forget the Sayer performance of "Tumbling Dice" myself!
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Post by sliderocker on Oct 9, 2014 17:11:54 GMT -5
she has been forgetful of some things over the years re: details like the hee haw one. her early years being so busy, she may have just forgotten which shows she did and didn't. am not a medical dr.but she has been forgetful in certain ways for yrs. I think she has said that before re: hee haw. shame she forgot she did a sketch with the great jimmy durante. eddiejinnj Another thing that occurred to me about her "Hee Haw" appearance was the possibility that maybe her segment was filmed independent of the show itself as she did not have any interaction with any of the cast members. So maybe she didn't truly appear on the show, although I'd like to record the performance of "Are My Thoughts with You" because not only was it a mono mix of the song but I also thought Linda's vocal was live. Someone had a production tape variation of the sketch with Jimmy Durante on youtube, which I think was slightly different to the one that was run on the Andy Williams Show as far as Durante's final lines in the skit were concerned. In the production tape version, Durante says after Linda holds him up for a stuffed alligator,"The joke's on her! That gun isn't even loaded!" But in the version that was shown on tv, I believe Durante said, "I didn't have the heart to tell her the gun wasn't loaded." I'm not sure because it has been 44 years since that show was filmed and I remember various sketches but not always what was said.
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Post by sliderocker on Oct 9, 2014 17:32:26 GMT -5
Well, she did so many concerts, TV appearances, guest vocals, etc., that you can't really blame her (or illness) for forgetting some of them. "Hee-Haw" was certainly one of her most unmemorable appearances—even if I do remember seeing it. I thought it was Leo Sayer she denied performing with, not Neil Diamond. Perhaps both? Frankly, I'd like to forget the Sayer performance of "Tumbling Dice" myself! I didn't even know Linda had done "Hee Haw" as that was one show I avoided when I was in my teens. I regarded it mostly as a show that strictly appealed to old people. I didn't even catch her appearance on the show until seeing a rerun of the show on the RFD channel. My reaction was WTF!? when I saw Linda as among the musical guests. I watched the whole show, not just Linda's song segment to see what else she may have been in. but she didn't appear in the rest of the show. That was odd as I did watch a few of the episodes and the musical guests usually appeared in the corny comedy skits. She may not have done those because they were just too corny. As for Linda not remembering singing with Neil Diamond, that's what I remember reading somewhere, think it was in another post on this site. I don't remember anything about her singing "Tumbling Dice" with Leo Sayer but just the thought of that creeps me out.
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Post by erik on Oct 9, 2014 18:05:51 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker re. Linda's 1970 appearance on Hee Haw:
I almost think she felt it was kind of demeaning to country music to be depicted in the same clichéd way that Southerners had been depicted on TV. And one has to take her self-conscious nature in mind (IMHO).
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Post by sliderocker on Oct 9, 2014 18:56:02 GMT -5
I almost think she felt it was kind of demeaning to country music to be depicted in the same clichéd way that Southerners had been depicted on TV. And one has to take her self-conscious nature in mind (IMHO). She may have felt it was kind of demeaning as a then-country singer to be depicted in the cliched way Southerners had been depicted on tv. It also may have been that as she had no interest in doing any acting, she had no interest in appearing even in the comedy skits. Then again, she did do the comedy skit with Jimmy Durante on the Andy Williams show and that skit was corny too. Very corny. Could it have been that she felt ill at ease around some of the others on "Hee Haw?"
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Post by Richard W on Oct 9, 2014 19:18:25 GMT -5
I think Slide is right regarding "Hee-Haw." Linda's segment did feel canned (live vocal over recorded instrumental), so perhaps she did record it separately from the show, shying away from the mostly unfunny, cornball stereotypes that show depended on. I remember even as a kid thinking "Hee-Haw" was pretty lame, and I was raised on country music.
Prepare for a sleepless night, Slide:
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Post by Belle on Oct 9, 2014 20:02:21 GMT -5
hahahah the look on her face before they started, she was not looking forward to that performance at all!
That video belongs in the same category as the Cher one, although unlike Leo, she and Cher sing really well together. I always thought it was very generous of Cher to have her on. That hair!
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Post by sliderocker on Oct 9, 2014 20:03:11 GMT -5
Duet with Richard Simmons, er um, Leo Sayer: now that was scary!
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Post by sliderocker on Oct 9, 2014 20:18:54 GMT -5
hahahah the look on her face before they started, she was not looking forward to that performance at all!
That video belongs in the same category as the Cher one, although unlike Leo, she and Cher sing really well together. I always thought it was very generous of Cher to have her on. That hair!
Linda singing with Cher: they did a good job dueting on "Rip It Up" but thought Linda alone should've sung "Drift Away." Cher struck me as trying to oversing Linda on that, but one of the things about musical artists with their own tv variety show was the rule the musical host must always do a duet with their musical guest. Not always a good idea. Must say though did think Linda was yummy in that orange gown.
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Post by erik on Oct 9, 2014 20:56:18 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker:
I agree on both counts, especially "Drift Away", which, because of its country-rock feel, was much more up Linda's alley than Cher's (IMHO).
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Post by sliderocker on Oct 10, 2014 0:24:21 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker: I agree on both counts, especially "Drift Away", which, because of its country-rock feel, was much more up Linda's alley than Cher's (IMHO). I believe that Cher herself had actually performed "Drift Away" years before when the show used to be "The Sonny and Cher Show," and she may have sung it better at that time but not so with singing the song with Linda. I think they could've found another song (besides "Rip It Up") that would've worked for them. But, the one thing about the guest shots Linda did on some of the tv variety shows was one sometimes got to hear Linda performing a song she never recorded. Unfortunately, that was in snippet form as when Linda sang "Ticket to Ride" on Andy Williams's show or snippets of Neil Diamond's songs on the Glen Campbell show - always thought she should've recorded a complete version of Neil's "And the Grass Won't Pay No Mind," just based off her very brief performance of that song. I've kind of wondered if she had any say in those song choices? But I can't imagine anyone telling her she had to sing those songs. I could've seen her planning on singing "Drift Away" alone but then Cher decided on making it a duet. Think that could've tied in with Belle's observation about the look on Linda's face before the song began. Maybe Linda wanted to try out the song before an audience to see how they would like her version, as a prelude to possibly recording it. Linda did sing most of the song but I thought Cher was trying to upstage Linda in the song's chorus with that deep, husky voice of hers. None of Linda's other singing partners ever tried to upstage her through oversinging that I'm aware of. Cher definitely ruined a good Linda performance.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Oct 10, 2014 7:25:59 GMT -5
oh the jimmy durante sketch was not on hee haw. I thought it was. I never really liked "hee haw". I was kind of young to watch it all the time in prime time but I thought it to be good hearted "corny" kind of show. the country version of "laugh in". never took to "laugh in" either. eddiejinnj
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Post by POP80 on Oct 10, 2014 9:47:01 GMT -5
Yikes--Those two videos are barely watchable! Corny bordering on downright embarrassing. I was hiding under the bed when Leo Sayer started dancing with her--OMG!! No wonder Linda blocked that from her memory...
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Post by sliderocker on Oct 10, 2014 10:58:23 GMT -5
oh the jimmy durante sketch was not on hee haw. I thought it was. I never really liked "hee haw". I was kind of young to watch it all the time in prime time but I thought it to be good hearted "corny" kind of show. the country version of "laugh in". never took to "laugh in" either. eddiejinnj It was definitely "The Andy Williams Show" which had Jimmy Durante's comedy sketch with Linda. I don't know but I've kind of wondered if the sketch with Durante was kind of what made up Linda's mind about not trying her hand at acting? It's odd as that was her only appearance that I'm aware of where she appeared in a comedy skit. She may have been curious or thought what the hell, give it a try, but it wasn't very demanding. Just a couple of lines she had to say. The corniness in "Hee Haw" also showed up in some other tv variety shows. On Andy's show, there was a running gag about a mooching, talking black bear that was always trying to get one of Andy's cookies. It was a running gag that should've been finished after just one gag but it turned up in almost every episode, and it was always the same sketch. The running gag on the Everly Brothers' show had actor Joe Higgins as a country good ol' boy sherrif, who'd show up to to ticket or arrest one or both of the Everlys over something dumb, but they'd always get the best of him and he'd leave. A gag played once, maybe funny, but over and over again, the gag wears out its welcome. But, when it came down to choosing between "Hee Haw" and "Laugh In," it would be "Laugh In" for me, even though they had some overused running gags and not all of the jokes were funny. But, they were funnier than most of the ones that could be heard on "Hee Haw." I remember "Laugh In" having musical guests on the show but never remember the musical guests performing one of their songs. The musical guests on "Hee Haw" always performed a song. "Laugh In" could boast of having President Nixon appearing on the show and asking incredulously, "Sock it to me?" I think that was on the show's debut episode in 1967 and Nixon was a pretty good sport about it, as skewering the politicians was a regular feature on "Laugh In."
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Post by Dianna on Oct 10, 2014 11:53:14 GMT -5
It was definitely "The Andy Williams Show" which had Jimmy Durante's comedy sketch with Linda. " Wasn't that kidnapped rich girl.. (patty hearst) in the news around that time or was it later. I remember seeing photos of her with a machine gun. Linda's skit kind of reminded me of that.
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Post by charlotte on Oct 10, 2014 12:08:06 GMT -5
I can't remember what I had for dinner Wednesday so give Linda a break. She remembers quite vivdly performing with her brother and sister early in the morning at the dress shop in Tucson for a bra and girdle sale! She has been walking out in front of audiences for about 60 years - every kind of venue from local TV, dive bars to arenas and the Broadway stage. As far as the Cher apperances, Bob Mackie needed a restraining order. Linda was definitely being "cooperative" in that outfit. I think the girls seem to be having some fun. As far as Patty Hearst I remember when they captured her - she had Linda Ronstadt albums in her belongings. Rolling Stone magazine had a bit that stated "Ronstadt OKAY with the SLA"! I have the clipping somewhere.
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Post by sliderocker on Oct 10, 2014 12:31:07 GMT -5
It was definitely "The Andy Williams Show" which had Jimmy Durante's comedy sketch with Linda. " Wasn't that kidnapped rich girl.. (patty hearst) in the news around that time or was it later. I remember seeing photos of her with a machine gun. Linda's skit kind of reminded me of that. Patty Hearst being kidnapped by the SLA was from around 1974, if I recall. Linda's comedy skit with Jimmy Durante is from a 1970 or '71 episode of the "Andy Williams Show." Linda appeared twice on his show, I believe. I don't remember Andy's show lasting very long...seems like it was gone by 1972.
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Post by sliderocker on Oct 10, 2014 13:01:55 GMT -5
I can't remember what I had for dinner Wednesday so give Linda a break. She remembers quite vivdly performing with her brother and sister early in the morning at the dress shop in Tucson for a bra and girdle sale! She has been walking out in front of audiences for about 60 years - every kind of venue from local TV, dive bars to arenas and the Broadway stage.
Linda has a very sharp recall, which indicates she has a very strong memory, possibly a photographic one. For someone with a photographic memory, forgetting or not knowing which city you were in while on a tour would not be all that unusual. Not remembering an appearance on a tv show or working with another performer would be unusual. Linda wasn't on tv all that much in the 60s and early 70s, but it's possible she could've forgotten or again, in the case of "Hee Haw," may not have been aware or been told that her filmed performance for "Are My Thoughts with You" was filmed for "Hee Haw." Linda not remembering is probably nothing, maybe just some bad memory associated with the appearance that she'd rather forget.
As far as the Cher apperances, Bob Mackie needed a restraining order. Linda was definitely being "cooperative" in that outfit. I think the girls seem to be having some fun. As far as Patty Hearst I remember when they captured her - she had Linda Ronstadt albums in her belongings. Rolling Stone magazine had a bit that stated "Ronstadt OKAY with the SLA"! I have the clipping somewhere.
A lot of the clothing we wear or wore during a particular period of time usually gets slammed later on for being in bad taste, but Linda looked a heck of a lot better in that orange gown than what Cher looked in hers. But, I remember someone saying the outfit Linda wore on the front cover of "Hand Sown, Home Grown" looked pretty hideous fashion wise. To my eyes, Linda's outfit still looks good and she looked damned good in it. Fashion is always a fluid state where something looks good one day but terrible the next.
Rolling Stone said Linda was okay with the SLA? Did they have a mole from the National Enquirer working for them as that just sounds so unbelievable.
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