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Post by eddiejinnj on Jun 29, 2014 18:40:57 GMT -5
happened to pick up a new copy at a retail chain drug store yesterday of San Patricio by The Chietains feat. Ry Cooder. Song 3: A LA Orilla DE Un Palmar features Linda singing on lead. On the credits page, it says "Trad. arr. by Linda Ronstadt Normal Music BMI". I know this to be Linda's publishing name. We recently discussed such credits for Linda for "I Never Will Marry" and "Old Paint." So this is another song from her publishing company and I believe I recall seeing others. no? if so do we already have a list and if so where archived? eddiejinnj
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Post by ronstadtfan4ever on Jun 29, 2014 23:04:12 GMT -5
Allmusic.com has a pretty extensive list on her credits ..  ) |
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 30, 2014 10:45:22 GMT -5
happened to pick up a new copy at a retail chain drug store yesterday of San Patricio by The Chietains feat. Ry Cooder. Song 3: A LA Orilla DE Un Palmar features Linda singing on lead. On the credits page, it says "Trad. arr. by Linda Ronstadt Normal Music BMI". I know this to be Linda's publishing name. We recently discussed such credits for Linda for "I Never Will Marry" and "Old Paint." So this is another song from her publishing company and I believe I recall seeing others. no? if so do we already have a list and if so where archived? eddiejinnj BMI's website just lists nine writing credits for Linda although two of the nine are the same song, just titled differently! "A La Orilla De Un Palmar" is not one among the nine. I think it has to be an incomplete listing more than anything else as Linda's (and Elliot Mazer's) arrangement for "Life's Railway to Heaven" also isn't listed. But, there is a possibility that despite the record label credits, Linda and/or her music publishing companies (there is also another company called Apache Red Music that lists a "songwriting" credit for Linda on the arrangement for "Ave Maria") did not register her arrangements for the songs with BMI, meaning she wasn't getting paid any royalties on which she would've been entitled to for those arrangements. |
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jun 30, 2014 11:28:57 GMT -5
Is "Life's Railway to Heaven" the original title for "Life is Like a Mountain Railway" that is on Silk Purse? eddiejinnj
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 30, 2014 12:51:38 GMT -5
Is "Life's Railway to Heaven" the original title for "Life is Like a Mountain Railway" that is on Silk Purse? eddiejinnj It's been referred to by both titles and also credited on albums by other artists by both titles, so either song title is correct. The two writing credits for Linda that are the same song on BMI's website are "Wild About My Lovin'" and "Bring It with You," both of which are credited to Linda, Kenny Edwards and Bob Kimmel and is a song in the public domain. I believe "Bring It with You" is shown as an alternate title for "Wild About My Lovin'," but I'm not sure why the song would need a second listing. Different set of lyrics, maybe? I can't remember if it had a second catalogue number. If Linda's version of LRTH/LILAMR wasn't registered as a "songwriter" for purposes of copyright on the arrangement, she wouldn't be paid any of the royalties that would've been due for the arrangement. Maybe that was something Capitol took to cover the cost associated with the recording of the album and its' manufacture and distribution? (Record companies tried to take from the songwriters as well as the artists when it came to costs associated with the making of a record. I never understood the reason they did that.) Still, as "Silk Purse" didn't sell a lot of records when it was first released, and songwriting royalties for the "arrangement" of a song in the public domain wasn't that much (something like 20% of what the songwriter-publishing royalty was - in 1970, that would've been 20% of two cents!), it wouldn't have amounted to very much money. The lower royalty for claiming the arrangement was, I believe, to discourage a songwriter from claiming a song in the public domain. But, it was not much of a discouragement or deterrent, given the many songwriters, singers and producers who put in a claim on an arrangement on a public domain song. |
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Post by Mexican Viewpoint on Jun 30, 2014 13:12:21 GMT -5
As I remember, LR got some flack for singing this somewhat anti-American song in our current ultra-Nationalist era (song is about Irish-Mexican troops from the Mexican perspective).
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Post by erik on Jun 30, 2014 14:56:31 GMT -5
Quote by Mexican Viewpoint:
Probably from Mayberry sheriff Joe Arpaio (LOL).
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Post by sliderocker on Jul 1, 2014 12:44:59 GMT -5
Quote by Mexican Viewpoint: Probably from Mayberry sheriff Joe Arpaio (LOL). Joe Arapio, Mayberry sheriff? Methinks Arpaio is more like a combination the sheriff of Hazzard county and Boss Hogg (LOL). |
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Post by erik on Jul 1, 2014 14:33:03 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker:
Actually, Bull Connor (the police comissioner in Birmingham, Alabama during the early 1960s) is closer to the truth (IMHO).
In any case, I don't think the flak has ever really subsided from Linda's publicity for anyone or anything related to Mexico in her home state, which is a sad reflection both on Arizona and really the whole of the USA as well.
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Post by Southwest USA on Jul 1, 2014 15:31:49 GMT -5
IMHO, I always think we Anglo-Americans should behave more like courteous and gracious guests when visiting or living in this part of the USA, rather than visa-versa.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 1, 2014 15:40:10 GMT -5
this thread is about Linda's arranging/ writing credits of which I found a new one for me that I brought up here. The name calling stuff is just ridiculous!!!!! I did not wish to discuss a sheriff good, bad or otherwise!!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2022 9:01:22 GMT -5
As I remember, LR got some flack for singing this somewhat anti-American song in our current ultra-Nationalist era (song is about Irish-Mexican troops from the Mexican perspective). LODUP is a traditional song I thought, not to do with anything but a social situation. I'm surprised Linda never recorded it earlier for one of her own albums. |
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