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Post by musedeva on Feb 16, 2024 16:05:18 GMT -5
....Creeepy ...really creepy
but I don't believe its actually "AI"....sounds like a crooner wanna be....like moi or something!!hahah
there are "mashups" out there of vocals on other tracks....but the pictures coupled with the wide wave warbling......gooses me uncomfortable!
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Post by erik on Feb 16, 2024 18:15:03 GMT -5
Yes, this is really creepy, and it's probably causing 'Livvy to do somersaults in her resting place...not to mention what it would do to Linda (that is, if she has heard it for herself).
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Post by RobGNYC on Feb 16, 2024 18:37:26 GMT -5
Bloody awful. Apologies to John Farrar but Linda would have slammed the door on this song had it been offered to her. You could drive a truck through that vibrato. Why does this exist?
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Post by rick on Feb 16, 2024 18:44:29 GMT -5
It shouldn’t exist. And the person in the photos thinking she represents Linda is delusional.
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Post by MokyWI on Feb 17, 2024 8:49:44 GMT -5
WTF? Why? It’s bloody awful!
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Post by warren on Feb 17, 2024 9:17:27 GMT -5
what about this one?
"Landslide"
or this one
"American Pie"
or this one
"Ode to Billie Joe"
Some of the AI photos make me do a double take. Linda's voice is not perfected here yet but give it time and we won't know what to believe.
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Post by musedeva on Feb 17, 2024 16:14:52 GMT -5
it jsut resonates stepford wives b.s. all over the place.......who are the broad's making up the composite "pic" or is it an individual .....we're already invaded......aaaggghhh
...this is prob the labels....pushing for a ruling to shut down fair use....if anything would trigger such....its something like this utilizing someone who's both sick and alive
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Post by RobGNYC on Feb 17, 2024 16:40:43 GMT -5
Below, NY Times November 1, 1989-so why is AI like these Linda miseries allowed? Bette’s case involved a huge corporation profiting from an imitation of her voice without her permission but as musedeva indicated above, I also think it’s because the fair-use laws just haven’t caught up with AI yet.
“The jury in the Federal District Court in Los Angeles agreed with Ms. Midler's assertions that Young & Rubicam had hired a singer to imitate her rendition of the 1958 song ''Do You Wanna Dance'' for commercials for the Ford Motor Company's Lincoln-Mercury division in 1985. The jury ordered the advertising agency to pay Ms. Midler $400,000 in damages.”
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Post by Biff McFly on Feb 17, 2024 17:35:48 GMT -5
It was funny "seeing Linda" sitting on the porch watching the grass grow.
"Next time y'all are in Loooseeana stop by, ya hear."
Seriously, the next step is they will create new "stars" from scratch using A.I.
There are two things that humans have that A.I. machines or robots will never have.
Hope and a Sense of Humor.
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Post by MokyWI on Feb 17, 2024 18:37:05 GMT -5
Please-just make it stop!
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Post by erik on Feb 17, 2024 18:52:16 GMT -5
I believe the late, great science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke said it best when he said something to the effect that the big test of how far our technology advances would be at the point where, if you were to have a conversation with someone and you couldn't tell whether that someone was an actual human being or a machine. This from a legend who created the most (in)famous example of AI there is: HAL.
As for AI-generated Linda vocals--obviously, as I've said, creepy as hell. Would I have wanted her to sing "Landslide"? Yes, but I'd have wanted to really be her!
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Post by Dianna on Feb 17, 2024 18:56:01 GMT -5
Even the images of Linda are bizarre... looks more like Cecily Strong from SNL
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Post by Linda Fan 5 on Feb 17, 2024 22:43:58 GMT -5
Does this mean one day we’ll see an entirely AI version of Grease! With a “Linda” and an “Elvis Presley” AI’ed in to the Olivia and John Travolta roles? I guess it’ll be possible and it wIll seem normal as something the fans just do on their own for themselves. We’ve already been told the future is casting YOURSELF in a movie. So YOU GET TO BE the Tom Cruise or Julia Roberts character. Anyone will be able to make a record and anyone who wants a fake but pretty convincing “Linda” to duet or provide backing vocals will get it. Is that so horrible? It’s the future. Maybe it’s a compliment to her, longevity, immortality. Not exactly sure how I feel about it to be honest. I will say the examples above are atrocious. A true fan will one day make “Linda” versions of “Accidentally Like A Martyr” or “September Song” or “I Still Have That Other Girl,” which are all songs Linda said she actually wishes she had recorded.
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Post by RobGNYC on Feb 17, 2024 22:57:30 GMT -5
“Is that so horrible?” Yes. If that’s the future, I’m looking forward to the past.
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Post by Linda Fan 5 on Feb 17, 2024 23:08:48 GMT -5
Well. I likely won’t like either. Here’s hoping, while it obviously will exist (it already does,) it’ll be easy to ignore.
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Post by rick on Feb 17, 2024 23:36:02 GMT -5
Below, NY Times November 1, 1989-so why is AI like these Linda miseries allowed? Bette’s case involved a huge corporation profiting from an imitation of her voice without her permission but as musedeva indicated above, I also think it’s because the fair-use laws just haven’t caught up with AI yet. “The jury in the Federal District Court in Los Angeles agreed with Ms. Midler's assertions that Young & Rubicam had hired a singer to imitate her rendition of the 1958 song ''Do You Wanna Dance'' for commercials for the Ford Motor Company's Lincoln-Mercury division in 1985. The jury ordered the advertising agency to pay Ms. Midler $400,000 in damages.” Rob, if I am not mistaken, it was Ula Hedwig, one of Midler’s former backup singers (The Harlettes), who imitated Bette’s vocals on “Do You Wanna Dance?” for the Ford commercial. At that time I was working at an entertainment trade publication and one of the music reporters covered the trial. She came back to the newsroom the day that Bette Midler testified and I wish I had the exact quote but Bette said she didn’t want to be associated in any way with the Ford Motor Company because “everyone knows Fords are lemons.” Or words to that effect. |
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Post by RobGNYC on Feb 18, 2024 0:45:52 GMT -5
Excellent Rick, I didn’t remember that it was Ula. My favorite Bette introduction of the Harlettes: “They function as a Greek chorus. These girls don't know shit about Euripides but they know plenty about Trojans.”
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Post by MokyWI on Feb 18, 2024 7:15:00 GMT -5
Excellent Rick, I didn’t remember that it was Ula. My favorite Bette introduction of the Harlettes: “They function as a Greek chorus. These girls don't know shit about Euripides but they know plenty about Trojans.” LOVE IT! They don’t call her bawdy for nothing. |
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Post by PoP80 on Feb 18, 2024 9:13:11 GMT -5
I saw Bette and The Harlettes many times back-in-the day. They were all phenomenal shows and Ula Hedwig is super cool! I saw Ula perform solo several years ago, but I haven't heard anything about her recently.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Feb 18, 2024 12:08:18 GMT -5
One note in "Have you Been Mellow" hurts my ears literally. Plus, the background sounds like original. So weird. eddiejinfl
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Post by musedeva on Feb 19, 2024 23:36:52 GMT -5
Just who is our "WARREN" "GUEST" up "above" posting all those additional wanna be startin' sumthins?  ?? I think he's the cat on you tube posting the cray cray....he was watchin this board I bet for reaction WARREN if so...ya'll failed on the uptake.....ck that vibrato dude...its outtah control.............................. |
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Post by Dianna on Feb 20, 2024 1:42:56 GMT -5
On the have you "never been mellow" video.. Is that an actual AI or a real person impersonating? hard to tell with all the heavy breathing and sighs lol... but, there are some aspects (and don't jump all over me lol) in the vocals that do sound like Linda's voice.. aside the weird dot dot dot vibrato at the end which is not Linda's or Olivia's which made me think a live person recorded this? no?
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Post by MokyWI on Feb 20, 2024 7:27:15 GMT -5
I listened no more than ten seconds of one of the clips, it was all needed to hear…
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Post by musedeva on Feb 20, 2024 23:04:35 GMT -5
Dianna my understanding of the tech is they do a "mash up" of sorts of Lindas' actual tones with Olivias'....but seriously I am not hearing any of Linda's natural "overtones" nor Olivia's....I say they have at least a bit of Linda in there but prob didn't want to get into trouble...no matter what the frickin audio is computer "created"....including the breath outtakes On the have you "never been mellow" video.. Is that an actual AI or a real person impersonating? hard to tell with all the heavy breathing and sighs lol... but, there are some aspects (and don't jump all over me lol) in the vocals that do sound like Linda's voice.. aside the weird dot dot dot vibrato at the end which is not Linda's or Olivia's which made me think a live person recorded this? no? |
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Post by Dianna on Feb 21, 2024 3:45:44 GMT -5
Dianna my understanding of the tech is they do a "mash up" of sorts of Lindas' actual tones with Olivias'....but seriously I am not hearing any of Linda's natural "overtones" nor Olivia's....I say they have at least a bit of Linda in there but prob didn't want to get into trouble...no matter what the frickin audio is computer "created"....including the breath outtakes On the have you "never been mellow" video.. Is that an actual AI or a real person impersonating? hard to tell with all the heavy breathing and sighs lol... but, there are some aspects (and don't jump all over me lol) in the vocals that do sound like Linda's voice.. aside the weird dot dot dot vibrato at the end which is not Linda's or Olivia's which made me think a live person recorded this? no? yeah Muse, I understand how it works but this particular clip sounds different from others I've heard. Normally, it's as you said a combination of the 2 voices.. i.e. Linda's vocals but with Olivia's vocal pronunciation. ..I do have a pretty good ear for recognizing sound and pitch and I can definitely hear similarities between the "AI's" computer mesh and Linda's voice. Agree with you on Olivia.. not hearing that. Really weird and it almost sounds like isolated vocals with the music turned down low. lol.. just strange. |
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Post by eddiejinnj on Feb 23, 2024 5:54:19 GMT -5
Well, they take notes and words that Linda has sung in the past and combine them to create the AI version. It is not seamless yet but I don't really care as a fan of all that is REAL Linda. 5555 eddiejinfl
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