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Post by Partridge on Jun 20, 2022 0:32:31 GMT -5
from June 1973 issue-
results of 1972 Readers Poll: January 1974 issue: February 1974 issue: May 1974 issue, letters: May 1974: May 1974 issue-
results of 1973 Readers Poll: June 1974, from an article about Maria Muldaur: July 1974: October 1974:
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Post by Holly on Jun 20, 2022 2:35:43 GMT -5
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Post by Partridge on Jun 20, 2022 3:46:22 GMT -5
Yes, they have every issue published online now. It's interesting how in her early days they loved her and lamented how she had not achieved stardom but when she did achieve success they hated her. |
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Post by guest on Jun 20, 2022 6:49:12 GMT -5
'"Love Has No Pride", the Asylum theme song' LOL
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Post by RobGNYC on Jun 20, 2022 7:00:15 GMT -5
The February 1974 C+ review of Don't Cry Now is by Robert Christgau. A slightly different version is in his "Consumer Guide: 70s" book: www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?id=807&name=Linda+RonstadtDon't Cry Now [Asylum, 1973] In which whatever was raunchy and country about her is laundered in David Geffen's homogenizing machine, manned this time by John David Souther, who must have told her that "Sail Away" was just another pretty song. You think she's gotten so used to playing the dumb chick that she's turned into one? C+ |
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Post by RobGNYC on Jun 20, 2022 7:06:59 GMT -5
July 1974, second Asylum album with Lowell George producing--first time I've heard anything like that. Her second Asylum album was Prisoner in Disguise and that was after she had already worked with Peter on Don't Cry Now and Heart Like a Wheel. I wonder where this story about Lowell producing came from. Maybe because Prisoner included Lowell's "Roll Um Easy" and he played slide guitar on the track, someone thought he was also producing? Except that according to the back cover, she didn't even start recording Prisoner until February 1975. Very strange.
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Post by erik on Jun 20, 2022 8:36:25 GMT -5
Quote by Partridge:
The parallel I draw is to what happened after Jaws was unleashed on the unsuspecting movie-going public in June 1975, in that for the first thirteen weeks of release, critics were raving about it; but then after it had already grossed a then-unheard-of $200 million, they all began to say that no movie that made that much money could possibly be any good.
But then again, there's no accounting for the taste of music critics--especially not Robert Christgau.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jun 20, 2022 8:49:47 GMT -5
Did you notice that David Bowie is on at least 2 of the Top Female Singer ratings charts? eddiejinnj
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Post by guest on Jun 20, 2022 12:40:01 GMT -5
Ziggy Stardust was androgenous.
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Post by MokyWI on Jun 20, 2022 17:11:33 GMT -5
The sexist bullshit women have to put up with was sickening. And it still goes on today in many ways. Today woman can hardly get played on country radio, and there are some great female country artists making much better music than the males getting played constantly. You can’t tell me that has NOTHING to do with some kind of backlash on female artists by radio or the business. Women were all over country radio in the 1990’s and many males in country radio, DJ’s, and some male artist didn’t like it.
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Post by Partridge on Jul 2, 2022 2:27:10 GMT -5
February 1975 April 1975 issue-- 1974 Readers Poll results April 1975   May 1975 
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Post by RobGNYC on Jul 2, 2022 5:46:55 GMT -5
April 1975–Georgia Christgau is Robert’s sister. Robert wrote the “A minus” review.
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Post by guest on Jul 2, 2022 7:41:03 GMT -5
bitchy couple.
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Post by Partridge on Jul 2, 2022 23:46:35 GMT -5
August 1975:  January 1976:  
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Post by guest on Jul 3, 2022 5:46:47 GMT -5
I am even fonder of "Prisoner in Disguise" album after Creem & other rags' criticism of it! "Long Black Veil" would have been a great Linda song.
Creem & co. could never accept Linda's move away from country rock, even though they criticised her for that too. Its like they had instructions to savage anything she did, ugly people attacking a beautiful woman.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 3, 2022 6:29:10 GMT -5
Thanks, Boss for posting. Have you ever heard of the song "Mountain Road" mentioned above in article about Brando then they mention Linda did this song?
I don't recall ever hearing this. Closest thing I could guess would be an alt name for "Life is Like a Mountain Railway"? eddiejinnj
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Post by RobGNYC on Jul 3, 2022 6:44:23 GMT -5
These Creem pieces are fascinating. Such a tiresome theme runs through many of them--that Linda just did/sang what she was told, no matter how many times she and Peter explained that she called the shots, chose the songs and the arrangements and the musicians. And it wasn't just sexism--some women critics weren't all that generous to Linda, like Georgia Christgau above.
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Post by guest on Jul 3, 2022 11:10:12 GMT -5
"..going down on Dallas Alice" is gutter level writing.
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Post by RobGNYC on Jul 3, 2022 11:31:38 GMT -5
"..going down on Dallas Alice" is gutter level writing. And pointless. I wouldn't mind if it added something to the review. Christgau crossed the line many times. My choice for his worst, dumbest, head-scratching-est piece was on Sarah Vaughan and Lucille Bogan. I still don't know how it got published, except that by then he had a lot of clout at the Village Voice so maybe there was nobody above him to say "No." Did he phone it in from a dive bar just before last call? Still no excuse. www.robertchristgau.com/xg/recyc/vaughan-05.php |
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Post by Partridge on Jul 3, 2022 12:03:48 GMT -5
On the whole, the review of Linda was far better than the review of the latest Olivia album in the same issue.
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Post by erik on Jul 3, 2022 12:17:12 GMT -5
Quote by RobGNYC:
Granted, the critics do not have to be nice to any of the artists they review. But yes, they often cross the line into sheer nastiness and vile behavior with certain artists like Linda, as Robert Christgau has done dozens of times (IMHO).
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Post by sliderocker on Jul 3, 2022 19:25:55 GMT -5
Quote by RobGNYC: Granted, the critics do not have to be nice to any of the artists they review. But yes, they often cross the line into sheer nastiness and vile behavior with certain artists like Linda, as Robert Christgau has done dozens of times (IMHO). Totally agree, and I sometimes wonder if it was an age thing? Some of the rock critics of artists of 60s and 70s were the same age as the artists, so you might could point to a certain jealousy on their part. Or they were one generation above. They came in when rock debuted and they disliked younger generations of rock artists, and that could've included artists who were ten years younger or less than what they were. With Prisoner in Disguise, I think had that album come after Don't Cry Now, it probably wouldn't have generated the criticism it did. Or after Linda Ronstadt. Coming after Heart Like a Wheel, I think it had to be a disappointment, given it's only rock track was Heat Wave. That was a similar complaint the critics lobbed at Elvis. His albums would generally contain one rock song and nine ballads of varying quality. I once asked Marty Lacker why they didn't get more rock songs to Elvis, instead of some of the ballads that were on the same level as some of the movie soundtrack songs. He said you couldn't get Elvis to listen to them or record them. Elvis did have to be talked into recording Burning Love and Way Down by his producer, which to me, was and is part of a producer's job. I just have to wonder if Peter Asher, as Linda's manager and producer, tried to talk her out of recording some of the songs she recorded? Or encouraged her to record some of the songs she recorded? Given Linda's next album after Prisoner in Disguise was Hasten Down the Wind, it seemed like the intent was to make it as different from Prisoner in Disguise as much as possible. I would have favored more albums like Hasten Down the Wind than Prisoner in Disguise, just as I would have favored Elvis's albums having more rock songs or all rock songs. But, the critics could've been kinder, especially when it came to Linda. She was a rock and country soloist, but she was hardly the only female rock solo performer. She was the one with the most potential, I think, and that bothered them and they knew it. They probably had chosen one of Linda's contemporaries to have the kind of success Linda would eventually have and when that didn't happen and Linda finally achieved success, they were probably jealous and hateful that their chosen artist had been ignored because the audience had chosen someone else. And they couldn't do anything about it. |
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Post by erik on Jul 3, 2022 20:20:05 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker:
Re. Prisoner In Disguise--I'm of the opinion that critics would probably have b****ed about that album anyway regardless of where it fell chronologically, at least in part because it had Linda doing a pair of Motown songs (think of it! A "White [albeit part-Latinx] chick" doing Black people's songs! SCANDAL!). They would have found something to b***h, whine, and bellyache about when it came to her, as they frequently did throughout her career.
When it comes to how Linda and Peter Asher worked, I think he truly respected what Linda wanted to do, even when, at the height of her success, she seemingly did many more ballads than rockers. And even though she would probably have never admitted this, I will always believe that the rockers and the ballads in her songbook compliment one another because of her ability to really communicate her feelings to her fans, and they in turn feel that in themselves. The dynamic with respect to Linda, I think, was far different from Elvis in his later years--his domestic life was basically imploding, with Priscilla divorcing him; Vegas was wearing him out, as his manager had done long before; his health was slowly failing; and so it certainly had to have been an act of God on Felton Jarvis' part to get him to record anything up-tempo in the studio.
It truly is jealousy on a massive scale on the part of critics who simply dissed Linda, for whatever callous and cockamamie excuse they could possibly find as she got successful just because their "chosen favorites" didn't find (at least not immediately) the kind of success that Linda did. But she had, and still does have, fans in the general public and amongst her peers. In the end, it really boils down to "Screw The Critics!" (IMHO).
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Post by Partridge on Jul 3, 2022 23:24:36 GMT -5
from February 1976 issue: from March 1976 issue- Readers Poll Results for 1975  
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Post by guest on Jul 4, 2022 5:50:46 GMT -5
who is the constipated guy to the right of Linda on that cover?
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Post by rick on Jul 4, 2022 6:36:34 GMT -5
Looks like Ron Wood to me.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 4, 2022 9:56:09 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree that is Ron Wood. All have a great, safe 4th!!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 4, 2022 10:06:47 GMT -5
I tried looking up "Moutain Road" as a Linda song with no exact results. LILAMR comes up as I predicted. I will go search for Brando and this song and see what I find. eddiejinnj
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Post by Partridge on Jul 5, 2022 0:47:30 GMT -5
I tried looking up "Moutain Road" as a Linda song with no exact results. LILAMR comes up as I predicted. I will go search for Brando and this song and see what I find. eddiejinnj |
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Post by RobGNYC on Jul 5, 2022 7:45:28 GMT -5
I tried looking up "Moutain Road" as a Linda song with no exact results. LILAMR comes up as I predicted. I will go search for Brando and this song and see what I find. eddiejinnj Surprised that "Railway" isn't on the expanded soundtrack. www.kritzerland.com/mo_breaks.htm |
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