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Post by Partridge on Jan 2, 2020 16:27:34 GMT -5
I found this article from the time of Feels Like Home
from the Rutland (Vermont) Daily Herald newspaper.
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Post by moe on Jan 2, 2020 16:45:43 GMT -5
Whaaaaat?  Where did that come from?? Obviously I've been watching too much Dr Who and my tardis landed in a parallel universe (my keyboard actually said "parallel loo" which I find both disturbing and hilarious) |
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 2, 2020 16:51:12 GMT -5
Whaaaaat? Where did that come from?? Obviously I've been watching too much Dr Who and my tardis landed in a parallel universe (my keyboard actually said "parallel loo" which I find both disturbing and hilarious) Some consider San Francisco a parallel universe (even for California) lol. |
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Post by PoP80 on Jan 2, 2020 17:03:42 GMT -5
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 4, 2020 15:13:52 GMT -5
I don't think the writer was referring to the mysterious Rick, but wasn't that about the time Linda was engaged to George Lucas? And wore an engagement ring? That's not the first article I remember seeing referring to Linda having a husband. But, if she did, the marriage must've been common law and one that Linda was very good at keeping any news about secret. It does seem odd it didn't occur to the writer to ask Linda when did she get married. Maybe the writer thought everyone already knew Linda was married and that the news media had already covered that?
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 4, 2020 15:26:51 GMT -5
Another irony I noticed in the article is Linda referring to herself as a country singer and the writer of the article referring to Linda as a country singer. There was another, more recent article which we've discussed on this forum where Linda had said she never wanted to be a country singer. Maybe it's her illness causing problems with her memory? Linda considering herself to have been a country singer and wanting to be a country singer seemed to have been a constant theme in her career, despite whatever music genre she happened to have been doing at any particular time. And because of her illness, Linda doesn't remember wanting to be a country singer or being a country singer?
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Post by rick on Jan 4, 2020 15:31:39 GMT -5
I think old Fred was a man who believed that for a woman to have two small children, then, therefore, a man/husband must be in the picture. I think he just assumed, which is not very good reporting.
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Post by Tony on Jan 4, 2020 17:50:31 GMT -5
This was shortly after the aborted attempt at a second Trio album. Did Linda have a slightly pissy attitude toward Dolly Parton in this interview?
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 4, 2020 18:24:27 GMT -5
Linda never liked "labels" whether in her personal or professional life. She never considered herself a country singer. More like a singer who liked to sing Country, Bluegrass, Folk, Rock, etc. and was influenced by all of them. Some recordings emphasized certain aspects of those styles more than others and she let the music business decide what fits...sometimes confounding them as evidenced by the different charts the same song found itself on. Expect the unexpected with Linda.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 18:29:50 GMT -5
Whaaaaat? Where did that come from?? Obviously I've been watching too much Dr Who and my tardis landed in a parallel universe (my keyboard actually said "parallel loo" which I find both disturbing and hilarious) Some consider San Francisco a parallel universe (even for California) lol. San Francisco (once a beautiful and safe city) is now an Alice In Wonderland place where you can poop on the sidewalk and steal $500 worth of merchandise from a store but never get arrested for it even if the cops do show up 3 hours later. So sad. And scary. I miss America. Where did she go? Anybody seen her? I'm surprised Linda lives there. What was wrong with Tucson? Jets? Who cares about jets? Big deal. |
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Post by rick on Jan 4, 2020 21:01:12 GMT -5
Don’t poop on San Francisco. It’s still a beautiful city. It has a homeless problem. L.A. has a homeless problem. It’s a complicated issue. Florida has a horrendous homeless problem, too. I don’t know which non-Californian decided to shit on California in here, but stay on topic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 21:25:58 GMT -5
I probably decided to "shit" on CA because I live right next to it here in AZ and don't want the disease to spread. We have enough problems with illegal aliens voting and dumping tons of trash on the U.S. side of the border. Sorry for the "hate speech." Next time I'll lie and make everyone feel better...happy new year...
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Post by erik on Jan 4, 2020 22:11:45 GMT -5
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And Kentucky has the worst health of any state in America; and Alabama has the highest infant mortality rate on the planet. So while we have homelessness in California, we are neither a red state nor, more importantly, a moocher state.
But back to the business at hand....
Linda's memory may not be as good as it used to be, but I think the writer is putting words into her mouth by saying she has always considered herself a country singer. This isn't exactly accurate, so let's get the picture hung straight:
She is certainly not a country singer if your ideas of what a female country singer should be are conditioned by what Nashville, the Grand Ole Opry, and the Music City industry apparatus say "country" is. Linda's not Loretta, or Tammy, or even her Trio pal Dolly, nor should she be held to those standards. She may have listened to the Opry and the Louisiana Hayride when she was growing up, but she grew up in the Mountain West, close to the Mexican border, and not Kentucky or Tennessee. Does she sound authentic when she has explored country music? Yes, but it's authentically her approach to it. It is not anybody else's.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 22:40:52 GMT -5
Is this an example of the Mandela effect?
goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/g28438966/mandela-effect-examples/
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Post by germancanadian on Jan 4, 2020 22:42:08 GMT -5
San Francisco is a great city to visit, very nice scenery, cuisine, museums and parks. There are some similarities to Vancouver. Too bad you have to be rich to afford to live there.
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 5, 2020 1:50:33 GMT -5
Linda never liked "labels" whether in her personal or professional life. She never considered herself a country singer. More like a singer who liked to sing Country, Bluegrass, Folk, Rock, etc. and was influenced by all of them. Some recordings emphasized certain aspects of those styles more than others and she let the music business decide what fits...sometimes confounding them as evidenced by the different charts the same song found itself on. Expect the unexpected with Linda. Not totally true, Rob. Linda herself said in the 60s and 70s she wanted to be a country singer and her first manager tried to talk her out of it. And that was after she considered herself a folk singer at first. Linda never identified herself in her 20s as someone who wanted to sing all kinds of music. I don't remember her talking about Frank Sinatra or wanting to sing Sinatra-styled music in the 60s or 70s. If fact, she seemed to be a country and folk freak from some of the articles I have read. Articles where it talked about Linda and J.D. Souther playing records by Tammy Wynette and George Jones when they lived together. And Linda being a fan of Gordon Lightfoot. I believe it was in the 80s when she had her "I sing all kinds" moment after her rock phase, and that she just didn't want to limit herself to the two genres of country and rock. I think Linda decided upon being a musical chameleon so that she wouldn't grow tired doing the same thing over and over again. She, of course, was never happy with her singing and felt like she had never learned how to sing properly. I still hate using her phrase "learning how to sing" in describing her departure from rock in the mid-80s, when she started singing the standards of the 30s and 40s. I see it she became more confident in her singing, and that her voice had matured, so she was capable of taking on the standards. She could've kept right on singing pop ballads, country ballads and rock tunes along side the standards tunes. And she might have been amazed at how well her matured voice would've sounded if she had recorded an album of country songs (without Dolly and Emmylou) or an album of rock songs. But, if Linda thought of herself as a singer who sang all kinds of songs in her 20s and in her early 30s, her recordings and concert set lists didn't give that impression. |
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Post by Dianna on Jan 5, 2020 3:35:58 GMT -5
Re Labels..Way back in the beginning..Linda once referred to herself as an "Ethnic Folk Singer." I read that here recently. It was an old article Tony Posted.
Re Homeless in Ca. Is it any wonder, a starter home is what 500,000 or in a better neighborhood.. 1 million plus... For one house in Ca.. a person could buy 3 or 4 in Kentucky or Alabama...
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Post by Tony on Jan 5, 2020 4:05:55 GMT -5
When I first became a fan, Linda was a country singer who released country albums. She fit in well with the other country singers I liked, Skeeter Davis, Loretta, Connie Smith, although her music was distinctly different and more interesting. And she promoted herself as a country singer- she told Hugh Hefner she was a country girl from Tucson.
Unfortunately, country radio didn’t really accept her until she became a rock singer. Imagine being awarded “most promising country female” when you’ve already achieved #1 status after 7 years in the business.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jan 5, 2020 8:46:51 GMT -5
She was dating/engaged to Lucas during the Trio I era. He directed the video for "To Know Him Is to Love Him." I don't think they were still involved in '95. eddiejinnj
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Post by PoP80 on Jan 5, 2020 12:09:19 GMT -5
I was totally being facetious about mysterious Rick! I'm not sure how that glaring misrepresentation about a husband arose in the article, but the writer definitely did not do his homework. As far as I know, Linda was busy raising her two young children at that time and wasn't involved with anyone romantically.
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 5, 2020 15:46:39 GMT -5
But back to the business at hand.... Linda's memory may not be as good as it used to be, but I think the writer is putting words into her mouth by saying she has always considered herself a country singer. This isn't exactly accurate, so let's get the picture hung straight: She is certainly not a country singer if your ideas of what a female country singer should be are conditioned by what Nashville, the Grand Ole Opry, and the Music City industry apparatus say "country" is. Linda's not Loretta, or Tammy, or even her Trio pal Dolly, nor should she be held to those standards. She may have listened to the Opry and the Louisiana Hayride when she was growing up, but she grew up in the Mountain West, close to the Mexican border, and not Kentucky or Tennessee. Does she sound authentic when she has explored country music? Yes, but it's authentically her approach to it. It is not anybody else's. The article or interview was from 1995, which was before Linda's current health issue had set in on her, but I think it's reasonable to assume Linda may have identified more as a country singer then, although as you say, not country in the sense of Nashville, Loretta or Tammy. I prefer to think of her as having been a western singer, the second half in country and western, and western more or less having been dropped in favor of referring to the whole genre as country. But, as I have always said western or western swing is different totally from the country music produced in Nashville. Western swing music was closer to rock music as many of the performers were a lot closer to rock performers in that they had drummers in their band. And some had sax players in addition to violin or fiddle players! Western also embraced the sounds of Mexico. When Linda and the Stone Poneys were just kicking around the southern California region, there were still many in Nashville who were resistant to having drummers in the band. Chet Atkins had a lot to do with the Nashville Sound, more strings than just someone who played a violin as a fiddle. And there were performers who didn't like that sound any more than they liked drummers on a recording and in the band. But, the genre was evolving. It had to, and that's what the Nashville diehards who wanted the music to stay the way it was didn't understand. If it didn't evolve, it would wither and die. I'm surprised it is still around as an art form. But, for me, I will always think of Linda initially as a folk singer, because that was where she was at when she was still in her teens, and then she was a western singer or country singer, then rock and then on to standards, then Mexican singer, a singer of all kinds. She embraced them all and I embrace them all, because any kind of music she performed or recorded, was fine by me. Some of the recordings, I took a step back and had a what is she thinking moment, but she knew what she was doing, though I didn't always see it then. She followed her heart on what she wanted to do, not what others (including her fans) wanted her to do. She was, a singer of all kinds of music but there's no genre designation for a singer who sings all kinds. Just singer, and that's probably just how Linda would want it. |
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 5, 2020 16:07:59 GMT -5
Re Labels..Way back in the beginning..Linda once referred to herself as an "Ethnic Folk Singer." I read that here recently. It was an old article Tony Posted. Re Homeless in Ca. Is it any wonder, a starter home is what 500,000 or in a better neighborhood.. 1 million plus... For one house in Ca.. a person could buy 3 or 4 in Kentucky or Alabama... I'm not sure they could, as even in those states, homes are getting ridiculously priced when being put up for sale or being built. And rent is no bargain either. The US's General Accounting Office says there is no state in the US where a single person alone can afford the rent or a mortgage on a home by themselves. Surprised our economy hasn't tanked, though it's heading there. Linda content: I would still like to know what happened to the recordings Linda made with her older brother and sister as the New Union Ramblers? Does she or her brother have a copy of the recordings. Or did her late sister have a copy? It's unusual none of those recordings have ever surfaced while other recordings did, such as the two recordings Linda, Bobby and Kenny did for Mercury in 1965. And the recording Linda did with Frank Zappa for a commercial. And almost every guest appearance she did on recordings by other artists. But, not the recording she made with her family. I would like to have heard the contrast between Linda and her sister Gretchen and Linda singing in her teens. Linda would probably say she was terrible but beauty is always in the eyes and ears of others, and not in our ourselves. We tend to be more harsh of ourselves than others are. |
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Post by Dianna on Jan 6, 2020 0:09:28 GMT -5
Slide.. there's a fairly recent video of Linda's older sister (may she rest in peace) Gretchen (didn't she also go by Suzy?) somewhere.. Gretchen is talking and the first thing I noticed about her speaking voice, it was much lower than Linda's, in fact, IMO, they didn't sound a like at all... at least not as older adults.
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 6, 2020 7:26:44 GMT -5
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Where did that come from?? Obviously I've been watching too much Dr Who and my tardis landed in a parallel universe (my keyboard actually said "parallel loo" which I find both disturbing and hilarious)
