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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 15:10:51 GMT -5
I agree this should not be a thing. It is gimmicky and ghoulish at the same time. I feel Mr. Dean would hate it
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Post by erik on Nov 7, 2019 19:08:25 GMT -5
Hollywood has done a lot of daft things in its history, but besides being ghoulish and gimmicky, this doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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Post by the Scribe on Nov 8, 2019 3:05:57 GMT -5
These kinds of things have been predicted to happen for decades as technology improved. In the not too distant future I predict an app that will allow anyone's image to star in some kind of video or movie feature. It will be the rave. Movies, videos, music videos, etc. will be created just for that purpose. Look at what is being done with deepfakes. This is the next step. Expect another app to mimic your favorite singers voice on every song ever written. People need to be creative. The only thing that might kill some of it is legality, copyrights, patents, etc. ronstadt.proboards.com/thread/6025/deepfake |
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Post by rick on Nov 8, 2019 3:24:16 GMT -5
Rob, I think the issue being made here is not is it possible to do this, bur rather SHOULD they? I imagine entertainment law will catch up with this so the family/heirs of the deceased have say over whether the likeness can be used legally. Of course, unscrupulous people likely will live by the motto of: “It’s easier to ask for permission later than to ask for permission beforehand.” I agree that James Dean would not have liked this. Some years back I remember that the late Fred Astaire’s motion picture work was used in a vacuum cleaner commercial. It seemed tacky and not in keeping with the sophisticated image Astaire cultivated in his lifetime. However, if memory serves, Astaire’s heirs approved of this use. Why not find the next great actor of his generation and cast him in the role ?
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Post by erik on Nov 8, 2019 9:41:57 GMT -5
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You make a lot of great points here, Rick. One other thing that this brings up, at least to me, is how it seems that Hollywood seems incapable of really promoting any really good new actors to play any kinds of roles these days if they're going to resort to this kind of technological skullduggery to resurrect a very good actor who didn't live long enough to make his own potential rise to the level of greatness.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2019 12:30:47 GMT -5
My hologram will go see it
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Post by Tony on Nov 8, 2019 13:12:32 GMT -5
Elvis is yet to make the best movie of his career.
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Post by the Scribe on Nov 8, 2019 18:23:18 GMT -5
Elvis is yet to make the best movie of his career.
I expect that to happen as well but not necessarily or "only" through this type of gadgetry. I had my own experience with this in the 1990's using a vcr player and a brand new blank tape. I saw dead people very much alive coming through the tv screen. Electronics will improve to the point Elvis just might take another stab at it.
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Contacting the Dead in the Electronic Age
www.liveabout.com/contacting-the-dead-in-electronic-age-2594014
by
Stephen Wagner
Updated March 20, 2019
No one can deny that computers and electronics have revolutionized life on this planet. There are electronic controls and computer chips in everything from the small appliances that toast our bread to the cars we drive, and make possible myriad forms of new entertainment, from DVDs to video games and iPods. We're just at the beginning of this remarkable revolution.
And now, many serious and casual researchers are claiming that some of this gadgetry can be useful in a quite unexpected way: to contact the dead ... or at least to allow the dead to contact us.
Obviously, these claims are highly controversial. They make many assumptions: that there is life after death, that the dead are interested in contacting us, and that they have the means by which to do so. Assuming all that, many people experimenting with electronic voice phenomena (EVP) and Instrumental Transcommunication (ITC) say they have received messages from "the other side" through tape recorders, VCRs, televisions, telephones, and even computers. It seems we may no longer exclusively need Ouija boards, psychics, and mediums to contact dear deceased Uncle Harold. Instead, just turn on the TV. Yes, even spiritualism has entered the electronic age.
These phenomena have manifested themselves since the appearance of the instruments themselves. EVP (electronic voice phenomena), for example, has been reported for well over 30 years: unexplained voices heard faintly on magnetic recording tape. It's said that even Thomas Edison experimented with devices for spirit communication. Investigators around the world are trying to get to the bottom of EVP and ITC, endeavoring to explain, in one way or another, how these voices are encoded on audio tape, how unexplained images appear on videotape and TV screens, where phantom phone calls come from, and how computers can relay messages from "the beyond."
Here are some interesting cases of EVP and ITC:
Audio Tape
Two of the pioneers of EVP were Konstantin Raudive, a Swedish psychology professor, and Fredrich Juergenson, a Swedish filmmaker. In the late 1950s, Raudive began to hear words recorded on blank audio tape and eventually made more than 100,000 recordings. Around the same time, Juergenson first captured unexplained voices while taping bird songs outdoors. He continued his research for over 25 years.
Is ITC phenomenon genuine? relates how Belling and Lee, a British laboratory, conducted some experiments in EVP, suspecting that the "spirit voices" were actually caused by ham radio broadcasts bouncing off the ionosphere. The tests were conducted by one of the leading sound engineers in Britain, and when phantom voices were recorded on factory-fresh tape, he was baffled. "I cannot explain what happened in normal physical terms," he is quoted as saying.
Another interesting case is that of two Italian Catholic priests who in 1952 were trying to record a Gregorian chant, but a wire in their equipment kept breaking. Out of desperation, one of the priests asked his dead father for help. Then, to his amazement, his father's voice was heard on the tape saying, "Of course I shall help you. I'm always with you." The priests brought the matter to the attention of Pope Pius XII, who reportedly accepted the genuineness of the phenomenon.
Today, many individuals and groups are experimenting with and gathering EVPs. Dave Oester and Sharon Gill of the International Ghost Hunters Society travel the United States collecting EVPs from various haunted locations, and they post many of their recordings on their website.
Radio
In 1990, two research teams (one in the U.S. and one in Germany) claimed to have independently developed devices that allowed them to talk to the dead. Using a modified form of ham radio that receives 13 different frequencies at once, the researchers claimed to have held conversations with several people who have passed on to another plane of existence. Dr. Ernst Senkowski, in Germany, said he contacted a Hamburg dockmaster who died in 1965. "We verified this information," Senkowski said. "He told us he was well and happy."
In the U.S., George Meek, director of the MetaScience Foundation in Franklin, North Carolina, said that more than 25 times he has talked to Dr. George J. Mueller, an electrical engineer who died in 1967 of a heart attack. "Dr. Mueller told us where to find his birth and death certificate records" and other details, Meek said. Supposedly, it all checked out.
Video Recorder
In 1985, according to Instrumental Contact with the Dead?, German psychic Klaus Schreiber started receiving pictures of deceased family members on his television. Sometimes just voices would come across, telling Schreiber how to tune his TV for better reception. When Schreiber died soon after, his own image began to show up on the TV screens of some European ITC researchers.
Some researchers have claimed success in capturing ghost images with an instrumental transcommunication setup. With this technique, a video camcorder, connected to a television, is pointed at the television screen. In other words, the camera is recording the image it is simultaneously sending to the TV, creating an endless feedback loop. The frames of the video are then examined one by one, and sometimes very distinct human faces can be seen.
Telephone
In January 1996, ITC researcher Adolf Homes received a series of paranormal phone calls, according to Is ITC phenomenon genuine? Reportedly, a female voice said, "This is Mother. Mother is going to contact you several times on your phone. As you know, my thoughts are sent in different speech patterns. The vibrational ties with your equipment make our contacts possible ..."
Of course, there are also many documented cases of phantom phone calls, or phone calls from the dead.
Computer
The seeming ability of entities to make contact through a computer was first noticed in Germany in 1980, according to Electronic Links to Other Dimensions & Entities. A researcher received a spontaneous message that appeared first as a series of letters, then words and finally phrases that referred clearly to a deceased friend of the investigator. Four years later, an English professor claimed to have exchanged messages (supposedly this was not e-mail) for over 15 months with a group of advanced entities living in the year 2019 as well as a man from 1546.
In 1984-85, Kenneth Webster of England said he received 250 communications via several different computers from a person who lived in the 16th century.
Can we believe such stories? Some are so far out that they should be taken with a megadose of salt. And the field of spiritualism and contact with the dead has always been so rampant with charlatans and fraud that there's no reason to think that that tradition is not being continued with the assistance of electronic devices. But it's always best to keep a cautiously open mind and welcome legitimate research into this dark, nebulous region of the paranormal.
Try it for yourself.
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