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Post by musedeva on May 6, 2019 12:58:35 GMT -5
...now I got bitten.....and we're in the pool of Joni......but!
all I can remember is Linda doing RIVER....
...what else?
and why not MORE?? why no collaboh?
was it the JB drama thing? ...cuz there were just too MANY YEARs...before all that...right?
I jsut think of ALL....when you think of Warren...why not MORE JONI???
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Post by erik on May 6, 2019 13:36:20 GMT -5
I may be a bit off in the chronology here, but I believe Linda and Joni met one another fairly early on, probably around 1968 or '69. It's a shame that they didn't collaborate, but they were each musically different in a lot of ways (IMHO).
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Post by musedeva on May 6, 2019 20:25:54 GMT -5
the OTHER interesting Aspect of their relationship/non-relationship is the fact that in Later years....didn't Joni start doing all the standards???
I heard some great interviews with her talking about her vocal...very interesting
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Post by erik on May 6, 2019 20:41:27 GMT -5
Quote by musedeva:
Well, she did do some albums of American standards, but I don't think she ever went the full Schwinger shtick route of Rod Stewart; and in any case, Joni didn't think of herself as strictly a folk singer or even a "singer/songwriter".
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Post by rick on May 7, 2019 3:26:46 GMT -5
Isn’t there an anecdote attributed to Carly Simon in the book “Girls Like Us,” in which Carly says she, Joni and Linda would meet for lunch, and, Carly said something to the effect of: “Of course, Linda ate all of the food.” ??
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Post by Richard W on May 7, 2019 8:57:30 GMT -5
Isn’t there an anecdote attributed to Carly Simon in the book “Girls Like Us,” in which Carly says she, Joni and Linda would meet for lunch, and, Carly said something to the effect of: “Of course, Linda ate all of the food.” ?? Well, if Linda did, she needed all that food for her calorie-burning vocals and to maintain her stamina on her strenuous album tours. Carly and Joni could get by on much less... |
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 7, 2019 9:00:09 GMT -5
Well said, Rich!!!! eddiejinnj 2250
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Post by erik on May 7, 2019 9:01:52 GMT -5
Quote by rick:
Yes, and I think in that same book, probably in that same anecdote you're talking about, Linda is described as being that most dangerous thing in this present-day context: an INTELLECTUAL.
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Post by musedeva on May 7, 2019 18:31:25 GMT -5
hahhahhha!!!! why in the world would you talk about who ate what at a meal? Quote by rick: Yes, and I think in that same book, probably in that same anecdote you're talking about, Linda is described as being that most dangerous thing in this present-day context: an INTELLECTUAL. |
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Post by the Scribe on May 10, 2019 4:17:49 GMT -5
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 10, 2019 7:37:39 GMT -5
I like both of the hit songs that I know of of Collins but I always thought her voice to be tenuous; almost to the point of going off key or pitch (am not an expert on exact vocal terms). I am still half asleep but other than "Big Yellow Taxi" (and her own version of "Both Sides Now"?) what were the other hits of Joni's? For me she is more of a well-known writer. eddiejinnj
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Post by Richard W on May 10, 2019 8:16:18 GMT -5
Agree with you about Collins's voice, Eddie, but I'd go further and say I find it outright irritating. Not saying she's not worthy, just that I don't personally find the (ahem) sound of her voice particularly appealing. Same for Mitchell. Both are pitched too high for my ears.
In fact, when I saw The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress listed on Linda's (then) new album Get Closer, I cringed, having been subjected to Collins's warbling of it too many times in college. Needless to say, I was tinglingly (?) surprised when I first played Linda's version (even if I still find the piano too tinkly-winkly).
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Post by erik on May 10, 2019 8:40:27 GMT -5
Quote by eddieinnj re. Joni Mitchell:
The three big hits I know that Joni had, besides "Big Yellow Taxi". were "You Turn Me On (I'm A Radio)" (Top 40, early 1973); "Free Man In Paris" (Top 40, fall 1974); and her big one, "Help Me", which got up to #7 in May 1974.
Quote by Richard W re. Judy Collins:
Yes it can be kind of difficult (but then try the even more irritating warblings of one Taylor Allison Swift on for size [LOL]). That said, though, in lieu of Linda not recording it, Judy's version of "Amazing Grace" is, in my opinion, a high point of her career for sure.
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Post by RobGNYC on May 10, 2019 8:45:19 GMT -5
Ask Carly Print-ready version
by Carly Simon
CarlySimon.com
May 21, 2002
Christmas Carols
Question: I have been listening to you since I was in grade school, I'm now 38, and I have always been fascinated by the legend of the 1974 Christmas caroling you did with James, Linda Ronstadt, and Joni Mitchell. Could you indulge me with a few details? Thanks for years of enjoyment!
Lance Pillstrom — Tulsa, OK
Answer: Dear Lance,
It was one of those things that was blown out of proportion. Basically it was a gathering at James' and my house in L.A. James, Joni, Linda and myself started singing carols with others who were there (and you would be more able to fill me in on who they were than I) and we decided to go on over to the Troubadour and sing them there. It was impulsive and the kind of thing that should be done more. It was lots of fun and exuberant and if there is any more legend to it than that, I would love to know. It could be that there was and I'm not remembering it.
Love, Carly
Carly Simon - 5/21/02
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 10, 2019 8:54:59 GMT -5
Thanks Erik!!!! I thought there had to be at least one more. "Help Me" I know well. I find in general that unless you are a fan of an artist or for some reason they play it on the radio that songs in the lower part of the Top 40 are kind of not known or forgotten after time. eddiejinnj
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Post by erik on May 10, 2019 9:04:49 GMT -5
Quote by eddiejinnj:
I think it has a lot to do with Joni, like Linda, being more than just a "singles" artist. Both Joni and Linda are known for their complete albums; whatever singles get released from those albums are the "gateways", so to speak. And I would argue that, with the possible exceptions of both Joni and of Carole King (she with Tapestry), Linda was likely the first female singer whose entire career was built as much on the body of her complete albums as her hit singles, if indeed not more so.
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Post by musedeva on May 10, 2019 23:48:08 GMT -5
Awwww~~ I absolutely ADORE this!! thank you...how the heck'd you find it!! WOW! |
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Post by the Scribe on May 11, 2019 0:13:52 GMT -5
Grand Poobah Tony posted it a while back. I just did a search on this forum using the words Joni Mitchell and there it was. Linda has always spoken nicely of Joni. Actually she spoke nicely of everyone except Bush Jr. lol. Amazing the things you can find on this site if you look.
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Post by Tony on May 11, 2019 1:42:51 GMT -5
speaking of Judy Collins, my favorite song of hers is Cook With Honey, written by Valerie Carter. Gonna play that one next.
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Post by Dianna on May 13, 2019 23:53:10 GMT -5
Agree with you about Collins's voice, Eddie, but I'd go further and say I find it outright irritating. Not saying she's not worthy, just that I don't personally find the (ahem) sound of her voice particularly appealing. Same for Mitchell. Both are pitched too high for my ears. LOL about Collins... Well, if Yoko Ono could get a record deal! |
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Post by musedeva on May 15, 2019 0:50:09 GMT -5
How's Valerie Carter these days?  |
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Post by the Scribe on May 15, 2019 0:58:34 GMT -5
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Post by musedeva on May 16, 2019 20:40:02 GMT -5
Oh Lord....just checked all that...she was gorgeous and looked really healthy and strong on that last video...well...at least she was still singing!!!
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