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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 16:35:26 GMT -5
You are all missing the obvious. If someone compared me to "Beyoncé," I would be very, very, very angry. I mean, are you friggin' serious??? Why not also compare a prime sirloin steak with a cheap, $1.00 hamburger?? Jeez!! My god...I worry about you people...
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 2, 2020 16:43:11 GMT -5
You are all missing the obvious. If someone compared me to "Beyoncé," I would be very, very, very angry. I mean, are you friggin' serious??? Why not also compare a prime sirloin steak with a cheap, $1.00 hamburger?? Jeez!! My god...I worry about you people... -------------------------- Linda has spoken kindly about Beyonce in the past but she also has said something to the effect that unless a young talented female singer is a knockout like Beyonce she will have a hard time being taken seriously and that is unfortunate. I am not sure how old you are Jeff but the pop music today is other worldly compared to what I listened to back in the 70's. It isn't always about the voice these days as it is other things. There is some really creative stuff happening. Some I like, some I don't. I am even starting to appreciate 80's music which I didn't use to care for.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 17:10:25 GMT -5
Let's compare:
The 1970s: the music, and the talent, were the main thing. The prime thing. For example, the Eagles, Linda Ronstadt.
The 2010s: "the visual package" is the main thing. Talent comes 2nd, even 3rd, in rank. You are "sold" by Big Corporate Media to the masses as a "package." Whether you have talent, or not, is moot. Can you rake in millions of dollars for BCM? That's the question. It makes me want to vomit. And for the record, I'm 55 years old, too old to tolerate what's going on today. Anyone have a time machine?
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Post by germancanadian on Jan 2, 2020 17:46:30 GMT -5
Bonnie should have compared Linda to Adele, not Beyoncé. 70s classic rock and 80s glam metal were my two favorite eras for music. I find the early 90s was when the quality of music really went downhill. Almost overnight, grunge became popular and it was just playing three chords and screaming nonsense, but they somehow thought it was profound. Then were was gangsta rap, boy bands and bland, generic butt rock that all sounded the same.
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Post by MokyWI on Jan 2, 2020 18:04:55 GMT -5
Adele was never a sex symbol. Linda was the big female sex symbol back in her heyday. Beyonce' is like that today. That has a lot to do with what Bonnie said. Both women were at the top vocally and physically.
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Post by Partridge on Jan 2, 2020 18:56:26 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Beyoncé. Neither do I dislike her. I am just not familiar enough with her to have much of an opinion. The first time she ever made an impression on me and I thought gee she can really actually sing was when I came across her playing the part of Etta James in a movie whose title escapes me. That was very good. The only other time that made an impression on me was a few years ago and she appeared on a country music awards show. There was a lot of howling and gnashing of teeth and protesting that she was not country. Maybe she wasn't really country, but also the music being honored was not country music to my ears. What I can say is that she put on a great performance. What more could be expected? She certainly wasn't going to do her version of a Hank Williams classic.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jan 2, 2020 19:47:40 GMT -5
Gee wiz, I just meant there are worst comparisons. There is nobody like Linda but I guess I just got Bonnie's vibe about Linda. Knowing how I perceived she meant it works into it for me. All's good!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by erik on Jan 2, 2020 19:55:00 GMT -5
Quote by MikeKoecher:
In Adele's case, I think she knows she's not anyone's idea of a sex symbol, but it's alright with her. With respect to the comparison between Linda and Beyoncé that Bonnie makes, I think she's very much correct in that declaration. I would also, however, add that Beyoncé is much flashier and much more provocative than Linda ever was...and, if I may be so bold, a hell of a lot more in-your-face. Linda's approach was never anything like that, because that's not who she was or is....and, in my honest opinion, we can thank our lucky stars that this was the case.
Quote by Partridge re. Beyoncé and country music:
Yes, Beyoncé appeared on the 2017 CMAs, I believe, to do the song "Daddy Lessons" with no less a trio of country music agent provocateurs than the Bushwhackers...um, the Dixie Chicks. All four of them were basically barbecued because what they were doing was allegedly "not country". But it is as you said, most of the other s**t that was being heard on that awards show was basically bad rap and hip hop with a lot of BS Twang, not country. By that measure, Beyoncé actually sounded like Linda in her C&W/rock salad days.
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Post by Dianna on Jan 2, 2020 22:57:10 GMT -5
Re Beyonce- Linda Comparison. Sorry Bonnie (love ya) but aside their popularity I don't see the similarity at all. Beyonce is a show girl.. Donna Summer or Diana Ross are more similar to Beyonce IMO .. Linda is not a show girl. There really isn't anyone contemporary I could compare Linda to..the closest IMO would be Carrie Underwood...except Linda is more versatile a singer and her upper range and tone are crystal clear.
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Post by germancanadian on Jan 2, 2020 23:01:33 GMT -5
Charts update. The sound of my voice has increased Linda's album sales even more than the Kennedy centre show. ITunes charts - Greatest hits, #4. Heart like a wheel, #10. Canciones, #14. Just one look, classic LR, #16. What's New, #33. Round Midnight, #38. Complete Trio collection, #46. Trio, #68. The best of LR, the Capitol years, #92. Many of these albums entered the Itunes charts for the first time ever, great to see so many new fans discovering her. I'm a bit surprised that Simple Dreams doesn't seem to be on the charts, especially since Blue Bayou, I never will marry, It's so easy and Tumbling Dice were played in the film.
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Post by ausfan2 on Jan 2, 2020 23:36:19 GMT -5
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jan 3, 2020 8:13:43 GMT -5
The point IS both artists' high popularity (maybe Alicia Keyes would have been better perhaps Carrie but I think she is linked to one genre too much). Both were in groups. Bonnie was using this comparison to point out and inform/remind people just how big of an artist, star, influence Linda is/was in a contemporary context so younger generations can put her artistry/fame in perspective. She was saying Linda was where IT was at, baby lol. Thanks GC for the chart updates. It is weird "Simple Dreams" not on the charts as it is also the name of her book and many songs like you said were played in the movie. eddiejinnj
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Post by PoP80 on Jan 3, 2020 16:56:46 GMT -5
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 3, 2020 17:18:08 GMT -5
(can't resist an opening like that)
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 4, 2020 1:43:30 GMT -5
I know I am just quibbling but there are some inaccuracies in the film. Some chronological quirks with the video and a comment Linda made that I know to be not quite true even though it was also printed in the Rolling Stone Heartbreak On Wheels article back in the 1970's. I asked Ruth Mary if the story of Gilbert riding his horse and serenading her under the window of her sorority house was true. She said yes and no. The person he was serenading was her sorority sister, not her. As far as I am concerned Gilbert ended up with the right woman. Not just for him but for ALL of us. She was a wonderful force of nature herself and people still get a bit verklempt just talking about her and Gilbert. If you want to know how and why Linda was so grounded you don't have to go very far.
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Post by PoP80 on Jan 4, 2020 9:57:17 GMT -5
Perhaps Linda prefers to remember it that way, since it sounds more romantic that Gilbert was serenading Ruthmary. Either way, it speaks volumes about his character and the type of relationship that they had. I'm sorry that Ruthmary wasn't able to fulfill her ambition about becoming a scientist, but she did have a full life raising her family in Tucson. She was ahead of her time in advising Linda that having a successful career was just as important as getting married.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 10:50:57 GMT -5
i just got my copy, courtesy of a somewhat confused delivery person (we have 97 apartments here, so yeah).. Even though I just saw it again, I am looking forward to the extra interviews..
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 4, 2020 16:41:51 GMT -5
Perhaps Linda prefers to remember it that way, since it sounds more romantic that Gilbert was serenading Ruthmary. Either way, it speaks volumes about his character and the type of relationship that they had. I'm sorry that Ruthmary wasn't able to fulfill her ambition about becoming a scientist, but she did have a full life raising her family in Tucson. She was ahead of her time in advising Linda that having a successful career was just as important as getting married. Parents sometimes embellish (or maybe all the time) to their kids. My guess is Linda's romantic version came from her dad. No big deal. Makes a better remembrance and is sweet. I wish I knew the rest of that story though lol of how she snagged Gilbert or he snagged her. I was hoping for some flashes of a home video from the 50's or 60's. So much has been left out and it was still lengthy. Gotta give a lot of credit to editors and editing to keep things tight. I am confident that this and events surrounding Linda this year have cemented her "legend" status for the ages.
The way her music has appeared on today's charts has to have me thinking had Linda started her career more recently she would have skyrocketed past even the greatest of the popular artists we currently have.
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 4, 2020 17:16:48 GMT -5
Since the movie is based on Linda's memoir here she is talking about it in 2013.Linda Ronstadt Talks About Her Career and New MemoirSimon & Schuster Books 57.4K subscribers Learn more about Simple Dreams at www.simonandschuster.com/books/Simple-Dreams/Linda-Ronstadt/9781451668735 Linda Ronstadt on her deep love for singing, her advice to new artists, and being present for the birth of Southern California rock.
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 6, 2020 0:24:38 GMT -5
An Exclusive Clip From 'Linda Ronstadt: The Sound Of My Voice' | Stereogum
Stereogum 8.85K subscribers This clip from the new documentary 'Linda Ronstadt: The Sound Of My Voice' looks at the making of Ronstadt's #1 hit "You're No Good."
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 6, 2020 0:25:42 GMT -5
Linda Ronstadt Sings Ballad in 2019
vSpirit2 9.9K subscribers "Linda Ronstadt: The Sound of My Voice" heartbreaking scene of Linda Ronstadt surrounded by family, quietly singing a sad Mexican ballad (w/English lyrics) with nephew Peter Ronstadt and cousin Bobby Ronstadt.
To fans who never thought they'd hear her sing again, it's a deeply emotional moment. And it doesn't sound a thing like Linda Ronstadt. But it's beautiful to witness all the same.
"This isn't really singing," Ronstadt says. "Believe me. It's a few notes sketched in. But it's not really singing."
Asked if she's enjoying it, she smiles and says, "Well, I would enjoy it much more if I could sing. But I can't let them sing this without me. It's a family thing."
She laughs. Then they go back to singing their sad song about having no mother or father. When it's over, Ronstadt laughs and asks, "Do we get to eat?"
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 6, 2020 0:31:41 GMT -5
FF Presents: LINDA RONSTADT: THE SOUND OF MY VOICE - Interview with producer James Keach
Film Forum 527 subscribers In this episode, Film Forum Presents a Q&A with producer James Keach from opening weekend of LINDA RONSTADT: THE SOUND OF MY VOICE, the hit documentary portrait of the legendary singer. The Q&A was moderated by Film Forum's Theater operations and events manager, Joseph Berger. LINDA RONSTADT: THE SOUND OF MY VOICE is now playing.
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 6, 2020 0:37:25 GMT -5
Homemade clip from the documentary. I recall watching this when it aired on tv. I had been trying to find it for years but for some reason it wasn't posted online along with most of Cavett's other shows. There is a lot more to this interview with Cavett. Love the Virginia Slims symbolism.
Linda Ronstadt The Sound Of My Voice
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 6, 2020 1:18:46 GMT -5
5 Things You Didn’t Know about Linda Ronstadt | Children | Daughter | Net Worth || TEEN STAR #226
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Post by ausfan2 on Jan 6, 2020 3:38:09 GMT -5
Did anybody pick up that the video is an incognito posting of the movie?
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 6, 2020 3:42:46 GMT -5
Did anybody pick up that the video is an incognito posting of the movie? shhhhh
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 8, 2020 3:42:43 GMT -5
The top 10 movies on the iTunes Store Associated Press news.yahoo.com/top-10-movies-itunes-store-174636242.html The Associated Press ,Associated Press•January 7, 2020 iTunes Movies U.S. charts for week ending January 5, 2020:
iTunes Movies US Charts:
1. Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood
2. Maleficent: Mistress of Evil
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3. Ad Astra
4. Hustlers
5. Anna
6. Joker
7. Downton Abbey
8. Rambo: Last Blood
9. It Chapter Two
10. Judy
iTunes Movies US Charts-Independent:
1. Code 8
2. The Farewell
3. Official Secrets
4. Darkest Hour
5. Midsommar
6. I See You
7. Linda Ronstadt: The Sound of My Voice
8. The Lighthouse (2019)
9. Call Me By Your Name
10. General Magic
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 8, 2020 6:16:00 GMT -5
www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/01/cnn_exploits_an_impaired_linda_ronstadt_to_attack_president_trump.htmlJanuary 4, 2020 CNN exploits an impaired Linda Ronstadt to attack President Trump By Peter Barry Chowka For more than a month, CNN has been hyping its showing this week of a new biographical documentary film about the famous singer and recording artist, Linda Ronstadt. At age 73 now, Ronstadt has been out of the public eye for the past decade after being diagnosed with a serious, degenerative neurological condition — initially thought to be Parkinson's but in late 2019 confirmed to be progressive supranuclear palsy. The 95-minute-long documentary, Linda Ronstadt: The Sound of My Voice, was co-produced by CNN and had its television premiere in prime time on CNN on New Year's Day. It will re-air tonight, January 4, at 9 P.M. E.T./P.T.
The film itself was bad enough (see below). But on New Year's Eve, exactly one day before its showing, CNN anchor Anderson Cooper goaded Ronstadt into an on-camera interview shown on his prime-time program AC 360 so she could contribute to the channel's non-stop bashing of President Trump. Not surprisingly, the interview made big news across the mainstream media landscape. Newsweek summarized the salient points in an article titled "Linda Ronstadt Compares Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler":
Screen shot: Linda Ronstadt on AC 360, CNN, December 31, 2019.
In her conversation with Cooper, Ronstadt, like all of the president's left-wing critics who decry him as another Hitler, failed to cite any evidence for her assertions or examples of the POTUS's alleged dictatorial actions. Her claims that Germany's "intelligentsia," "literati," and "all the artists" "didn't speak out" against Hitler — and that there is some sort of parallel situation in the U.S. today — are absurd. In reality, the anti-Trump Resistance demanding his ouster has been a powerful and omnipresent force opposing the president in American popular culture, the media, academia, and other sectors since before President Trump was even inaugurated.
It turns out that Ronstadt is not new to the anti-Trump Resistance. On September 28, 2017, The Guardian published an interview with her. In response to the question "What do you think will happen under Donald Trump?," Ronstadt replied:
It's a genuine national emergency. What he wants is to be in control of the media, and he has an acute instinct for the lowest common denominator — he knows how to go really low. So if we don't wake up, he could turn us into a dictatorship. I've read a lot on the history of Hitler, and people keep drawing comparisons ... they're so staggering — it's step by step by step. He's isolating us, he's taking us out [of contact] with South America, Mexico, Canada ... if we get attacked from outside, who's going to come to our rescue if we've isolated ourselves from our neighbours?
In the same interview, Ronstadt made the strange admission "I don't like any of my [28] albums," adding that she never listens to them.
The CNN documentary
I happen to know a few things about Ronstadt and her career, having reported extensively on former California Gov. Jerry Brown between 1976 and 1992. For approximately five years, starting around 1976 when the two encountered each other at Lucy's El Adobe Cafe in Los Angeles, Ronstadt was Brown's girlfriend. www.americanthinker.com/articles/2010/06/jerry_browns_distasteful_campa.html
Linda Ronstadt with Calif. Gov. Jerry Brown, Jackson Browne, and the Eagles after a benefit concert for Brown's first presidential campaign raised over $200,000 from a capacity crowd of 18,500 at the Capitol Centre, Landover, Maryland May 14, 1976. Photo © by Peter Barry Chowka.
The CNN documentary gave short shrift to Ronstadt's relationship with Jerry Brown. It turns out that the supposed comprehensive biographical review of Ronstadt's life and career was a self-serving, hagiographic whitewash, orchestrated and approved by Ronstadt herself. Any rough edges were expertly smoothed out. A lot of essential history and information was left on the cutting room floor.
In a review of the program, Variety revealed that Ronstadt exerted a large degree of control over the film's production. variety.com/2019/tv/news/linda-ronstadt-cnn-documentary-pompeo-voice-1203453285/
Although several of Ronstadt's romantic liaisons were referenced, it was not mentioned that she had never married and that she is the single mother of two adopted children. Perhaps the most glaring omission in this author's opinion was the fact that brilliant musician and producer Andrew Gold, Ronstadt's principal musical collaborator in the 1970s, was not mentioned at all. It was Gold, who died in 2011, who arranged, played on, and co-produced Ronstadt's five most successful albums, including her 1974 tour de force breakout LP Heart Like a Wheel that featured her only number one single hit, "You're No Good." As anyone who understands popular music knows, it is a producer in the studio who — more than anyone else in the process — ensures the success or failure of a recorded work. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Gold
Another inexplicable aspect of the film entailed a soundbite, which CNN highlighted and used in its promos, that featured singer Emmylou Harris insisting that Ronstadt was — to paraphrase — the first female rock 'n' roll star. What about earlier female rock icons like Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, Connie Francis, Grace Slick, and Janis Joplin, I wondered?
The film leaned heavily on Ronstadt's Latino background, which in reality, according to Wikipedia (citing a variety of primary sources), represented only one part of her multi-ethnic heritage.
While the film noted repeatedly and approvingly that Ronstadt grew up singing traditional Mexican songs in Spanish with her family, she commented later in the film that she doesn't speak Spanish and was basically lip-syncing lyrics in Spanish as a child. Her crowning achievement as an artist, according to the production, was her 1987 album of Mariachi songs sung in Spanish, "Canciones de mi Padre" (Songs of My Father).
Fortunately, the film wasn't all bad, with the best or most interesting parts being archival clips of musicians and performers of the past before they achieved fame, including members of the Eagles. Jackson Browne, Joni Mitchell, and James Taylor.
While CNN appears to have had high hopes for its Ronstadt documentary being a runaway hit with the viewing audience, when the ratings came out two days later it had clearly underperformed. The Ronstadt program did manage to win its 9 P.M. E.T. time slot in the Nielsen ratings but only barely. According to TVNewser www.adweek.com/tvnewser/scoreboard-wednesday-jan-1/425676/ , Linda Ronstadt: The Sound of My Voice, had 1.9 million total viewers compared with second place Fox News that ran a pre-recorded Hannity "special" featuring the host's past monologues that got 1.53 million viewers. The margin of victory in the preferred demographic (viewers 25-54) was even tighter, as CNN had 295,000 viewers in that metric compared to Fox News's 234,000. The number one program in total viewers that day on all of cable news wasn't even in prime time; it was the 5 P.M. E.T. showing on Fox News of The Five New Year's Day Special, with 1.94 million viewers.
As noted, readers interested in checking out the Ronstadt program for themselves have two more chances tonight at 9 P.M. E.T./P.T. when it repeats on CNN. The competition tonight, however, will be tough: A brand new live episode of Justice with Judge Jeanine is on the Fox News channel at 9 P.M. and that show is almost always the highest rated program on cable news every week on Saturdays.
Peter Barry Chowka is a veteran journalist who writes about politics, media, popular culture, and health care for American Thinker and other publications. Peter's website is peter.media. His new YouTube channel is here. Follow Peter on Twitter at @pchowka.
Read more: www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/01/cnn_exploits_an_impaired_linda_ronstadt_to_attack_president_trump.html#ixzz6AR6kLTVJ Follow us: @americanthinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook
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Post by Guest on Jan 8, 2020 12:09:14 GMT -5
How could you post that grotesque right wing hit piece?. I am Jewish and see the same parallels that Linda astutely points out. In fact the ratings were outstanding for CNN. The American Thinker, is not a legitimate publication, it is a propoganda arm of the alt-right.
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Post by RobGNYC on Jan 8, 2020 12:33:34 GMT -5
Regarding the AmericanThinker piece, I thought it was pretty clear that Linda has never been married--didn't Karla Bonoff basically say that, in the context that she also has never been married? Followed by a clip of Linda singing "I Never Will Marry"? I do agree that Andrew Gold should have been mentioned as one of Linda's major collaborators.
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