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Post by cymru56 on Jan 21, 2019 11:13:49 GMT -5
A version of "Heartache" found in Jackson Browne's vaults is now available on Valerie Carter -The Lost Tapes. It could almost be considered a duet.
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Post by 70smusicfan on Jan 21, 2019 13:08:55 GMT -5
Is it the same version as found on Valerie Carter's 1977 album "JUST A STONE'S THROW AWAY"? Wasn't it written by Lowell George, and didn't he and Linda sing it on their Maryland radio appearance?
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Post by cymru56 on Jan 21, 2019 13:26:18 GMT -5
It is different from the album with Linda much more prominent. Yes to your questions. There is another song on the album discovered at Jacksons and I'm aware of a Bob Dylan song found in Jackson's studio. Makes you wonder what other things could be found there.
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Post by fabtastique on Jan 21, 2019 13:30:23 GMT -5
great find, thank you. Its on Apple Music - at least in UK  |
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 21, 2019 15:54:11 GMT -5
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 21, 2019 16:02:51 GMT -5
Here is Valerie sans Linda on After The Goldrush (not a Lost Tapes song):
After The Goldrush Valerie Carter(From the Valerie Carter CD Find A River Produced by Mark Goldenberg en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Goldenberg )
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Post by 70smusicfan on Jan 21, 2019 21:38:03 GMT -5
I listened to both the album version and The Lost Tapes version (both are on YouTube) a few hours ago. It sounds like The Lost Tapes version is the "master" with a track containing Linda singing harmony vocals for the entire song (matching Valerie word-for-word). When they cut the version for the album (which was under Valerie's name), they just used Linda's vocals for the chorus and added some strings. I didn't do an overlay with both playing at the same time, but both versions sound remarkably similar in many of the passages, except that Linda's vocals don't appear on the non-chorus parts on the album version. There is also a live version of the song with Valerie and Little Feat on YouTube where we learn of Ivanhoe(?) from Valerie.
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Post by musedeva on Jan 22, 2019 0:43:23 GMT -5
Valerie!!! I know this vocal!!! must be from Linda's stuff......Jackson/Goldenberg....cool contributors to the Linda Legacy
isn't this a FANTABULOUS Neil Composition!!! SO AHEAD of the times...that Neil!
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Post by musedeva on Jan 22, 2019 0:46:13 GMT -5
i was in line next to Jackson in a goleta grocery eons ago.....just couldn't get over the whole Daryl H Drama...really really rubbed me wrong....my ex knows him in his en.work, he really helps the cause...but like MJ, can't hear those songs the same after learning about all that...SAD
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STFU about Jackson Browne
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Post by STFU about Jackson Browne on Jan 22, 2019 2:37:29 GMT -5
The makers of a television movie about John F. Kennedy Jr. and of a documentary about celebrity paparazzi have removed scenes referring to an alleged incident between Jackson Browne and his former girlfriend, actress Daryl Hannah.
Fox Television Studios, producer of "America's Prince: The JFK Jr. Story," has agreed to remove two scenes in the film that make reference to Browne and the alleged assault on Hannah, who dated Kennedy after her relationship with Browne ended.
"I never assaulted Daryl Hannah, and this fact was confirmed by the investigation conducted at the time by the Santa Monica Police Department," Browne says in a statement. "I am gratified that Fox has agreed to take these steps."
Days after the movie's initial January airing on the cable channel TBS Superstation, Browne demanded the network not rebroadcast the film.
Additionally, the Gurin Company will remove a scene that refers to the allegation from "When Cameras Cross the Line," which originally aired on VH1. "Jackson is appreciative that the producers moved so quickly to correct the program and to apologize to Jackson," Browne's manager Donald Miller says in a separate statement.
A written apology has been added to the beginning of the program. It states: "In a previous version of this program, we incorrectly reported an alleged incident involving singer Jackson Browne and actress Daryl Hannah. Mr. Browne has always denied that such an incident occurred, and local authorities have reported to the media that based upon their investigation, the incident previously reported in our program did not occur. We have deleted that material from our program, and we apologize to Mr. Browne for its inclusion."
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Post by alyn on Jan 22, 2019 11:00:07 GMT -5
Nice version of Heartache... thank you!
Little Feat are my favourite band (the Lowell era) and I have collected so much over the years and still finding rarities... I never really rated Heartache as a great Lowell song, I got the feeling he could dash off Heartaches at will but thankfully chose not to...I'd love to have heard Linda record 20 Million Things or Find A River from the same era..in fact, definitely Find A River, the more I think about it...but there again we could all list so many songs we wish Linda had tackled...
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Post by musedeva on Jan 22, 2019 18:51:34 GMT -5
1) Unlike you "STFU about Jackson Browne", I wont' post my reply anonymously. 2) Congrats on "Successfully" moving a media conglomerate to "amend" their reporting to comply with what I believe to be an illegal Non Disclosure Agreement 3) My understanding of the situation according to Daryls' Uncle, himself a powerful public figure; onstagemagazine.com/jackson-browne-backstory-sky-blue-black/Her uncle says he saw injuries, and photgraphed them, in a frickin hospital and we all know about victims not pressing charges, if Wexler recants, I'll recant my confession of feeling "uncomfortable" i.e I did not "allege" as a "fact", me thinks ya'll a bit touchy. Just because there is an "investigation" doesn't define facts. If someone didn't participate in the investigation, there is no investigation. Investigations are matters of gray, not black and white fact, there are myriad of degrees of looking into something or an allegation. And of course the allegation is gray itself, all i did was say I felt uncomfortable, i.e. that I personally have a propensity to believe the woman, or her uncle. Don't fault me for that and dont tout your "media" "win", I have a right to say what I feel uncomfortable about and until Uncle Wexler recants, you are still giving me the creeps just for posting that "STFU" which for me personally, is assaultive in a forum. The makers of a television movie about John F. Kennedy Jr. and of a documentary about celebrity paparazzi have removed scenes referring to an alleged incident between Jackson Browne and his former girlfriend, actress Daryl Hannah. Fox Television Studios, producer of "America's Prince: The JFK Jr. Story," has agreed to remove two scenes in the film that make reference to Browne and the alleged assault on Hannah, who dated Kennedy after her relationship with Browne ended. "I never assaulted Daryl Hannah, and this fact was confirmed by the investigation conducted at the time by the Santa Monica Police Department," Browne says in a statement. "I am gratified that Fox has agreed to take these steps." Days after the movie's initial January airing on the cable channel TBS Superstation, Browne demanded the network not rebroadcast the film. Additionally, the Gurin Company will remove a scene that refers to the allegation from "When Cameras Cross the Line," which originally aired on VH1. "Jackson is appreciative that the producers moved so quickly to correct the program and to apologize to Jackson," Browne's manager Donald Miller says in a separate statement. A written apology has been added to the beginning of the program. It states: "In a previous version of this program, we incorrectly reported an alleged incident involving singer Jackson Browne and actress Daryl Hannah. Mr. Browne has always denied that such an incident occurred, and local authorities have reported to the media that based upon their investigation, the incident previously reported in our program did not occur. We have deleted that material from our program, and we apologize to Mr. Browne for its inclusion." |
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Post by musedeva on Jan 22, 2019 19:23:14 GMT -5
Oh! Uncle Henry died........well since his statement was 1) Reported in a major U.S. publication to my understanding "US Magazine" and INCLUDED a supposed "Reply" by Jackson I guess at minimum we could establish that Jackson did "reply" ie. acknowledge Uncle Henrys "statement" 2) Therefore based on what I see so far , Uncle Henry made the "Statement" 3) I find no "recanting" of said Uncle Henry "statement" 4) Uncle Henry was a profound and notable "social" "documentarian" per Wiki and numerous press links cited therein 5) I believe Uncle Henry made a statement that he did not recant en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_Wexler |
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Post by MokyWI on Jan 22, 2019 20:35:50 GMT -5
Uh...whhat?
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 23, 2019 17:02:16 GMT -5
Probably not the best thread to bring up Daryl Hannah. Most people are not aware of her battle with autism which my gut tells me had everything to do with that situation. I will leave it at that. I hope she and Neil Young find happiness together. Valerie and Jackson were also close from what I know. I wonder if Jackson may have some lost Jann Arden tapes? Jann is one of my all time favorite singers and they worked together a lot. Angels and peace to all.
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Post by Mused! on Jan 27, 2019 0:02:51 GMT -5
I AGREE ...."probably not the best thread' ...i.e. why "scour" happy talk about Mamacitah Linda with negative talk about a violent, or alleged violent incident by a apparent significant fellow musician...I apologize for that! In fact, I did not know the degree of close relationship between Linda and he...and for bringing the idea up, I apologize.....that said I quote specifically, so as to bring focus; ".....bring up Daryl Hannah.....battle with autism.....everything to do with that situation" ....uhhhh....all due respect...a very respected activist documentary filmmaker, went on a record with a major United States publication that he FILMED/photographed injuries as represented by his relative, not a blood relative, but a relation, and asserted relations with both alleged "parties" to the act.... .....and you speak of autism? violence on a body is never acceptable,,,,period Probably not the best thread to bring up Daryl Hannah. Most people are not aware of her battle with autism which my gut tells me had everything to do with that situation. I will leave it at that. I hope she and Neil Young find happiness together. Valerie and Jackson were also close from what I know. I wonder if Jackson may have some lost Jann Arden tapes? Jann is one of my all time favorite singers and they worked together a lot. Angels and peace to all.
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 27, 2019 0:08:03 GMT -5
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Post by mused on Jan 29, 2019 1:29:41 GMT -5
.....looking at that link....speechless
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jan 29, 2019 8:11:54 GMT -5
Hey Mike wasn't it you or was it Rick who was so nice and sent me link/download for "California Blues"? I don't have message in my box but I know I thanked the nice forum member b4. Eddiejinfl
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