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Post by germancanadian on Oct 12, 2018 20:55:34 GMT -5
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Post by erik on Oct 12, 2018 22:27:58 GMT -5
They typically consider a head-banging outfit most every year.
But we shouldn't forget other potential inductees, such as Stevie Nicks for her solo work (she is already in as a member of Fleetwood Mac [they were inducted in 1998, along with the Eagles]); Americana icon John Prine (he who wrote "Angel From Montgomery"); Todd Rundgren (he known for hits such as "Hello It's Me"); and Kraftwerk, the German electronic pop/rock group known for their 1975 U.S. hit "Autobahn".
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Post by the Scribe on Oct 12, 2018 22:52:01 GMT -5
Stevie Nicks and Todd Rundgren are no brainers. Zombies are also a personal favorite and trailblazers. After that is anyone's guess. So many to like.
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Post by erik on Oct 13, 2018 18:51:37 GMT -5
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Yes, Stevie and Todd are no-brainers, which makes one wonder why they weren't inducted sometime ago. Then again, it is probably for the same reason it took Linda twenty years from the moment she was eligible. Some of the people who run that joint (I won't name names, because why name morons?) are no-brainers as well (IMHO).
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Post by sliderocker on Oct 13, 2018 19:38:22 GMT -5
It seems as though there are people at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame who are hell-bound on getting some acts inducted, like Janet Jackson and the Zombies. The Zombies should've been in long ago. Why they were not is a mystery. As for the rest of the nominees, I can't see the reason why they were nominated. I mean, I like Kraftwerk but I can't fathom how a one hit wonder in the US met the qualifications. When they do these nominations, they need to spell out how the acts in question met the criteria for being nominated. Some you can see, others you can't. Todd Rundgren, I can see. Same begrudgingly for Stevie Nicks, though since she's already in as a member of Fleetwood Mac, when they induct a group, they should induct the members individually if they have had a solo career. Nominating the same people over and over again keeps others from being nominated and after so many attempts, their induction should be automatic.
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Post by germancanadian on Oct 13, 2018 20:56:55 GMT -5
It seems as though there are people at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame who are hell-bound on getting some acts inducted, like Janet Jackson and the Zombies. The Zombies should've been in long ago. Why they were not is a mystery. As for the rest of the nominees, I can't see the reason why they were nominated. I mean, I like Kraftwerk but I can't fathom how a one hit wonder in the US met the qualifications. When they do these nominations, they need to spell out how the acts in question met the criteria for being nominated. Some you can see, others you can't. Todd Rundgren, I can see. Same begrudgingly for Stevie Nicks, though since she's already in as a member of Fleetwood Mac, when they induct a group, they should induct the members individually if they have had a solo career. Nominating the same people over and over again keeps others from being nominated and after so many attempts, their induction should be automatic. True about groups and members with solo careers. Another good example is Phil Collins. He was inducted as a member of Genesis but not as a solo performer. He had a great solo career in the 80s so he should be inducted individually too, not sure why he's been snubbed. |
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Post by erik on Oct 13, 2018 22:51:43 GMT -5
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Obviously the Zombies should have already been in there, with such great singles as "She's Not There", "Tell Her No", and "Time Of The Season", plus their 1969 album Odyssey And Oracle.
Kraftwerk, I suppose, are being considered for having really introduced a whole lot of electronic sounds to rock in the 70s, and for being probably the first German group to get anything resembling a hit here in America ("Autobahn", in its abridged singles release, got up to #25 here in May 1975). And like a lot of bands from the late 1960s onwards, they are an album band rather than a hit-making singles machine.
Stevie Nicks probably ought to be considered, in my opinion, because of her solo work and her Welsh witch persona, although the latter was developed because of her hit "Rhiannon" with the Mac. And we can't forget how she honored her fellow Arizonan Linda five years before.
Janet Jackson is one that gets the Dandruff award for me, because considering her is a head-scratcher. At the risk of sounding bigoted, being black and having the last name Jackson does not make one worthy of induction (IMHO).
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Post by Dianna on Oct 13, 2018 23:18:05 GMT -5
Re Janet Jackson.... I don't know Erik, Janet... or Ms. Jackson (If you're nasty lol) had quite a few hits, and not just a few.. a lot. I think she's worthy...
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Post by erik on Oct 14, 2018 12:45:42 GMT -5
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As always, I can rephrase things better. I don't think that being black and having the last name Jackson necessarily makes one worthy. I will say that there are other black performers (for example, Chubby Checker) who aren't already in there and who ought to have been a long time ago (IMHO).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 13:08:44 GMT -5
Re Janet Jackson.... I don't know Erik, Janet... or Ms. Jackson (If you're nasty lol) had quite a few hits, and not just a few.. a lot. I think she's worthy... I agree she has lots of hits, but quantity does not necessarily equal quality. |
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Post by sliderocker on Oct 14, 2018 14:02:23 GMT -5
Obviously the Zombies should have already been in there, with such great singles as "She's Not There", "Tell Her No", and "Time Of The Season", plus their 1969 album Odyssey And Oracle
The Zombies are one of many acts from the 60s that should've been considered long ago, because they meet all of the criteria, including for the reasons you listed. I suppose, however, the R&RHoF is trying to bend over backwards in being fair to all of the acts who are eligible, which for the 'class of 2019,' stretches back to 1994 for consideration. The fact there are still a good number of acts from the 50s, 60s and 70s that have never been inducted and should be considered but have not is a problem the hall should address.
Kraftwerk, I suppose, are being considered for having really introduced a whole lot of electronic sounds to rock in the 70s, and for being probably the first German group to get anything resembling a hit here in America ("Autobahn", in its abridged singles release, got up to #25 here in May 1975). And like a lot of bands from the late 1960s onwards, they are an album band rather than a hit-making singles machine.
Kraftwerk was one of the first to introduce electronic sounds to rock, with more advanced synthesizers, but there was others also dabbling in the electronica before Kraftwerk. An American act released an album in 1970 called Silver Apples and I don't know if that was the name of the group (actually a duo) or the album. It was just one guy playing Moogs and one guy playing drums. Kraftwerk may have been the second or third artist from Germany. There was one female performer from Germany, named Lolita, who had a Top 5 hit in 1960 or 1961 titled Sailor. It had been a hit in rest of the world before the US and was sung entirely in German, although the US version featured a unique to the American release spoken section by a young, sexy sounding girl who spoke English. Singer Petula Clark recorded an English and French version of the song, having a hit with both versions in England and in France. The original Lolita hit was one of those songs that was largely forgotten until the advent of satellite radio. It's been heard a few times on the 60s channel. Petula, btw, is another 60s act that hasn't been included, even though she probably meets all the criteria as well.
Stevie Nicks probably ought to be considered, in my opinion, because of her solo work and her Welsh witch persona, although the latter was developed because of her hit "Rhiannon" with the Mac. And we can't forget how she honored her fellow Arizonan Linda five years before.
With Stevie, I admit begrudgingly she belongs in the hall as a soloist, but I still believe the hall should induct artists like Stevie as a solo artist at the same time they induct her as a member of Fleetwood Mac. It was the same for the Beatles. It would've saved time and saved a slot for another act that is also deserving. If Stevie makes it, they probably should not ask Lindsay Buckingham to induct her. It seems Stevie was partly responsible for Lindsay being kicked out of the group on this latest go round. The band appeared at an awards show (probably the Grammys) and Stevie's song Rhianon was playing. Stevie started speaking and Lindsay was behind her smirking. One thing led to another and Lindsay is out.
Janet Jackson is one that gets the Dandruff award for me, because considering her is a head-scratcher. At the risk of sounding bigoted, being black and having the last name Jackson does not make one worthy of induction (IMHO).
It's probably the fact her last name is Jackson that she's being considered, which would not be a valid reason for being nominated. She meets the criteria for her first record having come out 25 years ago or later and she probably meets the criteria for influence. Her records, however, probably veered more towards being pop than rock, but I guess the hall is admitting pop is a part of rock.
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Post by Dianna on Oct 14, 2018 15:58:25 GMT -5
Re Janet Jackson.... I don't know Erik, Janet... or Ms. Jackson (If you're nasty lol) had quite a few hits, and not just a few.. a lot. I think she's worthy... I agree she has lots of hits, but quantity does not necessarily equal quality. True, but "quality," is subjective to the listener.. The same could also be said about Madonna. I'm not a big fan of Janet Jackson but I realize regardless if her music isn't my cup of tea, she is talented enough and inspired (for good or bad) a generation of female and male singers/performers... |
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Post by jhar26 on Oct 21, 2018 3:47:22 GMT -5
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Post by germancanadian on Dec 5, 2018 22:55:01 GMT -5
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