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Post by rick on Apr 5, 2017 12:20:45 GMT -5
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Post by the Scribe on Apr 6, 2017 19:13:46 GMT -5
I love that album AND Magical Mystery Tour. I recall they came out close to each other and traditionalists just about had a cow. I suppose the Beatles became too Psychedelic for the rocksters. Psychedelic music is my favorite genre. Can't explain it but I just love it. And as usual I created my own playlist: www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUMq4sB5dsC8_0LjBB7Rz5CmheN06dQPn
I remember watching the above show when it was first aired. The Beatles are just awesome. The best ever. The last guy Clark asked about the video is classic!! |
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Post by rick on May 27, 2017 3:52:35 GMT -5
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Post by the Scribe on May 27, 2017 6:37:47 GMT -5
The author of a book about this reissue was interviewed recently in the second half of this show. Very interesting.
May 21, 2017 - UFOs: New Theories & Evidence/ Sgt. Pepper's Influence
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Post by rick on May 30, 2017 2:05:03 GMT -5
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Post by sliderocker on May 31, 2017 20:31:31 GMT -5
I love that album AND Magical Mystery Tour. I recall they came out close to each other and traditionalists just about had a cow. I suppose the Beatles became too Psychedelic for the rocksters. Psychedelic music is my favorite genre. Can't explain it but I just love it. And as usual I created my own playlist:
I love "Sgt. Pepper" but for me, "Magical Mystery Tour" was a bust, musically. The songs from the film are fair but not interesting at all except for John's "I Am the Walrus." John was on record as not liking the music or the film either. The album, in the US, was saved by the inclusion of the four hit singles, which Capitol must've done as a desperation move. If left to just the songs from the special, MMT likely would've tanked. It paled in comparison to the brilliance of "Sgt. Pepper." |
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Post by erik on May 31, 2017 21:11:00 GMT -5
Quote by slidercoker re. Sgt. Pepper vs. Magical Mystery Tour:
I think some of the problems with Magical Mystery Tour had to do with the feeling that they were going off on an improbably psychedelic tangent without any actual guidance. Whatever guidance they could have gotten was no longer there after Brian Epstein was found dead of an overdose in August 1967; and Magical Mystery Tour almost seemed to be a lark that Epstein would have advised against. It was really their first serious flop (even the Queen herself disliked it).
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 1, 2017 21:40:07 GMT -5
Quote by slidercoker re. Sgt. Pepper vs. Magical Mystery Tour: I think some of the problems with Magical Mystery Tour had to do with the feeling that they were going off on an improbably psychedelic tangent without any actual guidance. Whatever guidance they could have gotten was no longer there after Brian Epstein was found dead of an overdose in August 1967; and Magical Mystery Tour almost seemed to be a lark that Epstein would have advised against. It was really their first serious flop (even the Queen herself disliked it). That was John's take on it. They'd just take this bus and magical adventures would ensue...and nothing excited happened! John felt if Brian had still been living, "Magical Mystery Tour" wouldn't have happened. He also characterized the film as being another of Paul's attempt to take over his group. John truly resented Paul trying to be the leader. "Magical Mystery Tour" was Paul's idea from the very beginning, but when the adventure turned out not to be so great, Paul magnanimously assigned the director's credit to Ringo, so they would think it was Ringo's idea and not his. Kind of a coward's way out. Paul would go on trying to be the leader of the group, much to John's continued chagrin. John complained the "White Album" came about because Paul had written ten songs and was ready to record, but John hadn't written anything and George hadn't written anything. I don't believe at all that it was all Paul's fault, but believe whatever troubles there were, were magnified in the wake of Brian's death. The Beatles were essentially disintegrating as a band because of business concerns and outside influences, not to mention their own sniping at each other. |
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Post by rick on Jun 1, 2017 23:37:42 GMT -5
Anyway, how about that deluxe version of "Sgt. Pepper's"? If you watch the video that I posted outlining what all is in the Deluxe package, the reviewer says that the next Beatles' studio album to receive the same treatment is "The White Album." As that was a two-record set, it will be interesting to see what is unearthed. I am on the fence as to spending the $149 for this deluxe package of "Sgt. Pepper's," however, it is the kind of thing that would be nice to have. It's just hard for me to justify the expense.
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 9, 2017 16:10:19 GMT -5
Anyway, how about that deluxe version of "Sgt. Pepper's"? If you watch the video that I posted outlining what all is in the Deluxe package, the reviewer says that the next Beatles' studio album to receive the same treatment is "The White Album." As that was a two-record set, it will be interesting to see what is unearthed. I am on the fence as to spending the $149 for this deluxe package of "Sgt. Pepper's," however, it is the kind of thing that would be nice to have. It's just hard for me to justify the expense. I'm with you, Rick. I'd like to have the super deluxe version but it's hard for me too to justify the expense. My main objection is that it's a way overpriced set. I like the fact there's going to be a lot of outtakes but there's not going to be anything new that I recall. And all of the outtakes will likely just be variations of the finished masters that went on the album, most likely a different vocal performance rather than a different musical arrangement. This past weekend, the local PBS station had one of it's annual pledge drives and they aired a special on "Sgt. Pepper," which was interesting to watch when they weren't breaking every fifteen minutes or so for twenty minutes on why you should pledge money to PBS. They offered the super deluxe package in exchange for a $2000 donation. Now, I ask you, who in their right mind would give $2000 to PBS to get the super deluxe version when you can buy it in the stores for $150? Even more irritating for me is the fact that when PBS has these pledge drives, they make a huge deal of how it's only on PBS that you can see shows like the "Sgt. Pepper 50th Anniversary" special. They're right; it's the only station you can see it but only during the pledge drive. You won't see it any other time! Guaranteed!! |
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Post by Tony on Jun 9, 2017 20:38:52 GMT -5
I had a falling out with our local PBS station in the late 1970s and have not yet come back to the fold. I had tuned in on April 15 to watch the George Thorogood and the Destroyers concert that had been advertised heavily. They did not show it, instead showing a program on how to file your income taxes. So I called and expressed my displeasure and these fools told me that as it was income tax day, it was important to get this information out. I told them that was stupid, that no one would be watching the night income taxes were due and rush out and get them in the mail by midnight. And they told me it was no big deal, that I could catch the program on rerun. Well, hard to believe, but when that particular episode was rerun, the South Carolina affiliate pre-empted it again.
Up until then, I had been a fan of SCETV and contributed annually to them and supported their fundraisers. They have not received a penny from me since, and never will.
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 10, 2017 2:46:19 GMT -5
I had a falling out with our local PBS station in the late 1970s and have not yet come back to the fold. I had tuned in on April 15 to watch the George Thorogood and the Destroyers concert that had been advertised heavily. They did not show it, instead showing a program on how to file your income taxes. So I called and expressed my displeasure and these fools told me that as it was income tax day, it was important to get this information out. I told them that was stupid, that no one would be watching the night income taxes were due and rush out and get them in the mail by midnight. And they told me it was no big deal, that I could catch the program on rerun. Well, hard to believe, but when that particular episode was rerun, the South Carolina affiliate pre-empted it again. Up until then, I had been a fan of SCETV and contributed annually to them and supported their fundraisers. They have not received a penny from me since, and never will.
I had a similar issue with PBS airing a Sarah Brightman special with videos from her Classics album. They advertised for two months that Winter Light was going to be one of the song performances and when the big day finally came NO WINTER LIGHT! They cut it from the show. WTF??? So I complained big time. Called everybody and their brother (sisters too) and my local affiliate had NO CLUE. So evidently the problem was that Sarah was nude (for the most part 'cept for gold poupon) while singing the song.
Even today you have to go to a site with warped letters to actually see it and hope you aren't hacked.
video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yfp-t&p=sarah+brightman+winter+light+video#id=9&vid=d4986afb238e198f306f63a6c2553ea7&action=view
or watch her singing it on the Moon. She even has to wear clothing on the Moon like someone there would be offended!v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjYxNTcwNTY=.html?spm=a2h0j.8191423.module_basic_relation.5~5!2~5~5!4~5~5~A |
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Post by rick on Jun 10, 2017 11:07:51 GMT -5
Anyway, how about that deluxe version of "Sgt. Pepper's"? If you watch the video that I posted outlining what all is in the Deluxe package, the reviewer says that the next Beatles' studio album to receive the same treatment is "The White Album." As that was a two-record set, it will be interesting to see what is unearthed. I am on the fence as to spending the $149 for this deluxe package of "Sgt. Pepper's," however, it is the kind of thing that would be nice to have. It's just hard for me to justify the expense. I'm with you, Rick. I'd like to have the super deluxe version but it's hard for me too to justify the expense. My main objection is that it's a way overpriced set. I like the fact there's going to be a lot of outtakes but there's not going to be anything new that I recall. And all of the outtakes will likely just be variations of the finished masters that went on the album, most likely a different vocal performance rather than a different musical arrangement. This past weekend, the local PBS station had one of it's annual pledge drives and they aired a special on "Sgt. Pepper," which was interesting to watch when they weren't breaking every fifteen minutes or so for twenty minutes on why you should pledge money to PBS. They offered the super deluxe package in exchange for a $2000 donation. Now, I ask you, who in their right mind would give $2000 to PBS to get the super deluxe version when you can buy it in the stores for $150? Even more irritating for me is the fact that when PBS has these pledge drives, they make a huge deal of how it's only on PBS that you can see shows like the "Sgt. Pepper 50th Anniversary" special. They're right; it's the only station you can see it but only during the pledge drive. You won't see it any other time! Guaranteed!! Slide, thanks for sharing that. Yes, $2000 (!) is an exorbitant amount. And, oftentimes, when PBS airs something like this that is on DVD they edit it so sometimes they will say in the promos "And another additional XX minutes not seen in this broadcast." If I am not mistaken, besides the various outtakes and early versions of tracks, I believe there are two additional songs that are not duplicates -- meaning songs that were not included on "Sgt. Pepper's." I have read so many articles on this as well as reviews on Amazon so they all start to blur together. But I think the super-duper deluxe version has these two extra songs. I will likely look for this deluxe version at an Amoeba or such store selling previously owned sets. However, I would worry that the book might not be in pristine condition in buying it in this manner. However, I would rather try to buy it when I can view it versus purchasing it off eBay at a discount only to find that is more than "gently used." |
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 10, 2017 17:25:24 GMT -5
Slide, thanks for sharing that. Yes, $2000 (!) is an exorbitant amount. And, oftentimes, when PBS airs something like this that is on DVD they edit it so sometimes they will say in the promos "And another additional XX minutes not seen in this broadcast." If I am not mistaken, besides the various outtakes and early versions of tracks, I believe there are two additional songs that are not duplicates -- meaning songs that were not included on "Sgt. Pepper's." I have read so many articles on this as well as reviews on Amazon so they all start to blur together. But I think the super-duper deluxe version has these two extra songs. I will likely look for this deluxe version at an Amoeba or such store selling previously owned sets. However, I would worry that the book might not be in pristine condition in buying it in this manner. However, I would rather try to buy it when I can view it versus purchasing it off eBay at a discount only to find that is more than "gently used." You're welcome, Rick. I took another look at the track listing and there are no previously unreleased songs, just unreleased alternate takes of some songs plus the mono version of the album, and the single versions of "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "Penny Lane," which has the few extra second of the piccolo trumpet on the ending. I don't remember the single version of "Strawberry Fields Forever" being that much different to the version that has been on the various albums, but given that oldies radio stations don't play the original mono recordings of the 60s, it may be some DJs did not know there were some differences. And so any differences are typically forgotten about. But, it was those two songs, originally recorded for "Sgt. Pepper" but removed from the album line up when they were chosen to be the double A-side 45, that may be considered the two additional songs. Sirius-XM recently added the Beatles channel to their line up and my guess is the music on the super deluxe edition is going to get a lot of airplay. And you're right about PBS. During their pledge drive, they will advertise there is additional footage you'll see on the DVD that you won't see on their version of the special. But, it's still rubbish as why should anyone donate $100 on a DVD they can get in the store for $15-25 or a CD box set for about $50 that they will send you for a donation of $250? They even offered an oldies six CD box set of 60s artists for a $100 donation that you could get discounted in the stores for $20. I know they need the money and your donation is tax deductible, but why can't they just ask for donations and forego the offering of CDs and DVDs, which make it seem like you're being taken advantage of? |
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