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Post by jhar26 on Oct 26, 2013 14:07:47 GMT -5
I think some of her influence has changed music/rock history. of course, she helped form or put into motion the eagles getting together. she is the voice especially female voice of the country rock movement/genre. she has introduced to the mainstream many musical artists and writers. she is given credit by Roy Orbison as regenerating his career. she and Phoebe convinced Billy Joel to put just the way you are on the stranger album. she is almost solely responsible for the surge and acceptance by the public of Mexican mariachi music as well as bringing back the great American songbook to the masses. she brought Aaron Neville and the Neville Brothers to the spotlight. I could go on and on. if that is not influence and a substantial legacy, I don't know what one is. eddiejinnj Yes, but I agree with all that. What I mean by changing the course of musical history is radical change, like adding a new chapter. Something like James Brown introducing funk or Charlie Parker be-bop. Something like that. But of course such things happen very rarely and are very far between. But the influence argument is often the least important argument in these things imo. Every artist who's had some degree of success is influential on his or her followers. But yes, if it hadn't been for Linda a lot of songwriters and genres wouldn't have been as popular as they are.
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Post by jhar26 on Oct 26, 2013 14:14:46 GMT -5
An interesting take on the long overdue nomination - from a music blogger (sorry I lost the dudes name) " I was far from the only one who suspected that the announcement of Linda Ronstadt’s Parkinson’s diagnosis might prompt the Hall to continue it’s macabre habit of noticing epic female vocalists once they have an incurable disease. As I mentioned before, at least Linda is getting off relatively easy since it’s only her voice that died, while Dusty Springfield and Donna Summer needed an actual date with the Grim Reaper in order to be deemed worthy. Then again, this is just a nomination. We’ll see how it works out in the end. For what it’s worth, Ronstadt, whose voice was the foundation stone upon which the seventies-era California Rock scene was effectively built, has been eligible since 1992. She should have been in at least fifteen years ago. A lot of people have suggested that if she ever made it out of the nominating committee she would sail to election. Now that this theory is finally being put to the test, I hope I haven’t been truly paranoid all these years in suspecting it wouldn’t be that simple. We shall see. Although the actual ceremony happened after her death at least Dusty knew that she would be inducted.
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Post by erik on Oct 26, 2013 21:18:53 GMT -5
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I would hope then that Linda did some "radical" change, even if it wasn't of a mind-busting sort necessarily.
Now, four years ago, I think The Boys at the RRHOF did acknowledge that a new chapter was added to rock with their induction of the Ventures. Formed in 1959 in Seattle/Tacoma, they are still the biggest-selling all-instrumental group in American rock history, selling a million albums a year on average from 1960 to 1972, and having had hits with "Walk Don't Run" (twice, originally in 1960, and then in a slightly slower version in 1964), "Perfidia" (yes, that "Perfidia", friends) in 1960, and "Hawaii Five-O" in 1969. Their trebly electric guitar-based sound helped set the table, along with what the Beach Boys did, for a lot of the rock and roll that would come from the West Coast over the ensuing twenty-five years. Joe ("Hey, How Ya Dooin'"?) Walsh has claimed them as an influence, as have tons of other guitar players.
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Post by erik on Feb 20, 2014 10:05:33 GMT -5
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Post by charlotte on Feb 20, 2014 13:09:55 GMT -5
Thanx Erik for posting. Great, thoughtful review. Boy someone needs to write an essay on the impact of those posters - every dude of a certain age seems to cite them as having a lasting impact. I recently read somewhere "while I could lust Farrah, I was deeply in love with Linda . . . and remain so to this day"
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Post by Richard W on Feb 20, 2014 15:06:02 GMT -5
The impact may be deeper -- or broader -- than you think, Charlotte. I had one of those posters ("Prayerful Hands") and I'm gay.
Forget Bette, Liza and Barbra. My icons were Linda, Bonnie and Emmylou.
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Post by jimi on Feb 20, 2014 15:55:15 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing, Erik. It is a good review. Daniel Rasmus is duly appreciative of the way Linda has chosen to tell her story. Simple Dreams is a bit short, which can be felt in a few places, but it is a wonderfully personal story with all its warmth, insights, humor and e few frank remarks where it seems called for. It is the best of its kind that i have read for years. Rasmus makes a point that I particularly like, the fact that Linda's growing musical eclecticism in the 80s and onwards was in her genes, she was not just following one fancy after another.
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Post by charlotte on Feb 20, 2014 19:08:22 GMT -5
Richard W, I hear ya. Straight, gay or ortherwise the "male" devotion to Linda has always been deep. While perhaps not as dramatic as some are to Barbra, Liza, Cher etc. the love of Linda is certainly very profound and different in its earnestness than that of the "showgirls". Fascinating - she always seemed to have more guys than girls at her shows in the 70s in NYC. Who knows what it all means just find it interesting.
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Post by erik on Feb 20, 2014 19:15:05 GMT -5
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I think it had a lot to do with the fact that, being the dramatically shy person she is, she did not have the showgirl gene in her. In terms of her own gender, the fact that she was naturally herself onstage made it all right for other aspiring songstresses to follow their dreams without having to give up their femininity (IMHO).
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Post by charlotte on May 20, 2014 21:54:54 GMT -5
www.airspacemag.com/daily-planet/linda-ronstadt-and-b-29-180951454/Linda cited in the oddest places. This passage from "Simple Dreams" really shows how brilliant and sensitive her ears are. B-29s and string arrangements. Can you imagine any other popular singer making these connections?What a joy that others - the editor of Air and Space - are recognizing her observances.
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Post by fabtastique on Jan 12, 2017 14:37:19 GMT -5
I've just read this again, only for the second time, but I'm more thankful the second time around that Linda told her story - her eloquence and knowledge, humour and storytelling, subtle hints of romance and rich tales of friends......
its such a lovely book.
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Post by germancanadian on Sept 22, 2018 17:38:53 GMT -5
For those who have read Linda's memoir, I was wondering how you liked it and would you recommend reading it?
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Post by erik on Sept 22, 2018 18:29:45 GMT -5
Just speaking for myself, I thought she did a fairly thorough job of detailing her life, especially how she grew up in the extreme heat of the Sonoran Desert as a child, and how, on the actual date of her birth in 1946, a huge summer storm was drenching her hometown of Tucson.
The memoir isn't a tell-all, but a very vivid portrait of herself, not all of it pretty, but vivid all the same. For the most part, she has only great things to say about the folks she's worked with in her time, including the Eagles, Emmylou Harris, Dolly Parton, Jackson Browne, J.D. Souther, and the Mexican mariachi ensembles who helped her on Canciones De Mi Padre. She does, however, also detail, realistically but kind of graphically, her extreme unease at her and the Stone Poneys being the opening act (no pun intended) for The Doors and their heavily inebriated lead singer Jim Morrison, and also an episode in which she was left stranded after an all-night C&W jam session she had with Bernie Leadon, Keith Richards, and Gram Parsons, where Gram got too stoned to take her home on his motorcycle.
It's best to pick up the book for oneself, however. I don't want to give too much away here.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 18:31:10 GMT -5
Recommend it. Linda is eloquent in her prose, but not overly sentimental or egotistic at all. Those looking for a kiss and tell should look elsewhere .
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Post by moe on Sept 22, 2018 19:06:30 GMT -5
I strongly recommend it to anyone interested in Linda in particular and music of the period in general. As has been pointed out many times-no salacious tell-all here. But Linda is such a good writer and her tales so interesting you don't miss that sort of thing. What I found fascinating is that Linda is a musicoligist of great sophistication that can lay out the inner workings of the process so clearly that someone who doesn't have degree in musicology can follow. Finally no ego!-she shows herself to be a truly humble person (to the point of almost being-I don't know-annoying. As been chronicled here many times how can a person so accomplished be do darn self effacing?) Having said all that I loved the book, the two problems are: it's too short and it needs a sequel. She is too good a writer to only have one book.
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Post by fabtastique on Sept 23, 2018 1:27:41 GMT -5
loved it - not gossipy but very informative and I would definitely recommend!
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Post by germancanadian on Oct 12, 2018 12:38:40 GMT -5
Just finished Linda's book. I really enjoyed it, very interesting and well written. Only downsides were that it was pretty short and she didn't talk that much about her music from the mid to late 70s when she was at the peak of her popularity. Also didn't mention Sesame Street or The Simpsons and didn't say much about her children but otherwise an excellent read. I really liked this quote - “Someone once asked me why people sing. I answered that they sing for many of the same reasons the birds sing. They sing for a mate, to claim their territory, or simply to give voice to the delight of being alive in the midst of a beautiful day. Perhaps more than the birds do, humans hold a grudge. They sing to complain of how grievously they have been wronged, and how to avoid it in the future. They sing to help themselves execute a job of work. They sing so the subsequent generations won’t forget what the current generation endured, or dreamed, or delighted in.”
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Post by eddiejinnj on Feb 3, 2019 15:59:22 GMT -5
For those that have a pre-autographed copy of Linda's book, is the autograph on a square adhered piece of bordered paper after the picture liner page below a facsimile of a colonial soldier? The next page is the title page. I am just not sure why they would have a piece of heavier bond paper attached to the page with just her name on it if it wasn't an autograph. Maybe, I lucked out and got a signed used copy. Maybe they are self adhering and Linda signed sheets of them for the pre-autographed books. Can't wait to get the new album. The book came in the mail yesterday as I said a wanted an extra one to keep the one she signed in front of me preserved. eddiejinfl
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Post by the Scribe on Feb 3, 2019 20:03:56 GMT -5
Was it laminated? Maybe it was meant for people to carry her autograph around in their wallets or purses.
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Post by Partridge on Feb 4, 2019 0:43:32 GMT -5
I have 3 copies (hardcover, advance softcover, and in Spanish) but none of them are autographed.
I was watching a podcast with Wanda Jackson recently when she released her biography (foreword by the esteemed Elvis Costello) and people were calling in and asking questions while she autographed books. She was actually opening and signing each book, and as I watched, I wondered how she would ever get that huge room full of books signed. At any rate, I ordered an autographed copy. I got an email saying that the signings were taking longer than expected and there might be a delay. I did get the book in a reasonable amount of time, but mine had an autographed bookplate (I guess that's what it's called) attached inside the front cover.
Probably those people who were lucky enough to see Linda at a bookstore appearance got signed books, but those who ordered on the internet got the signed bookplate like the one I have from Wanda Jackson.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Feb 4, 2019 8:47:03 GMT -5
That's it, Tony. It must be an autographed book plate. It was placed on the almost blank page before the title page. The book I just got off of Amazon also had raised letters on jacket cover. I don't recall that on the one that was signed in front of me. Also, the quote new used book I just bought has a cool copper colored jacket binding. eddiejinfl
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Post by pricepittsburgh on Mar 2, 2019 14:08:06 GMT -5
Just got mine in the mail today. I'm not a big book reader but looking forward to this.
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Post by Tony on Mar 2, 2019 17:15:18 GMT -5
As far as an actual opinion about the book: I read the book once and hope to read it again. It's a quick read- I wonder how many actual words are in the book-
As I recall, I liked Linda's style of writing, but I was disappointed in the book because she only gave an overview of her life. She didn't do a great job of covering the different areas of her career, and in fact spent very little time on her superstar years. I would have liked something more personal or introspective.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Mar 2, 2019 17:55:55 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum, price. I am reading and savoring Linda's book right now. I love it so far but there is a recollection of hers in the book that she began recording with Peter AFTER "DCN". It is on page 89. "By the time Peter and I were able to record together, I had already made "DCN" for Asylum and was getting ready for the album I still owed Capitol." Peter came in at the end of "DCN" and produced the songs "I Believe in You" written by Neil Young and I believe one other that I can't recall what other song. I can't seem to find it online. I also looked for the cd here but can't find that. Erik and Rob could find it. eddiejinfl
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Post by eddiejinnj on Mar 2, 2019 17:57:45 GMT -5
The book does have relatively small print so there seems to be a lot on each page, imho. eddiejinfl
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Post by pricepittsburgh on Mar 3, 2019 0:25:30 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum, price. I am reading and savoring Linda's book right now. I love it so far but there is a recollection of hers in the book that she began recording with Peter AFTER "DCN". It is on page 89. "By the time Peter and I were able to record together, I had already made "DCN" for Asylum and was getting ready for the album I still owed Capitol." Peter came in at the end of "DCN" and produced the songs "I Believe in You" written by Neil Young and I believe one other that I can't recall what other song. I can't seem to find it online. I also looked for the cd here but can't find that. Erik and Rob could find it. eddiejinfl Thanks appreciate it. I just caught the Ronstadt bug last month and it's still going strong. I always had her Nelson Riddle recordings because I'm a fan of Sinatra but I never paid much attention to her country or mainstream stuff other than a few hits here and there. Now I realise that many major female country artists have been emulating her vocals for years from both her country material and pop ballads. I doubt any other women have influenced so many in both Rock and Country.
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Post by pricepittsburgh on Apr 15, 2019 1:57:55 GMT -5
For those who have read Linda's memoir, I was wondering how you liked it and would you recommend reading it? Just completed it tonight and I really enjoyed it. She is so gracious and respectful of all she worked with as well as grateful. She is so very knowledgeable about music as a whole. She was very detailed about her upbringing and her interactions with other artists, producers, managers etc. I feel like I know her her so well and I like her more now than I already did.
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Post by Richard W on Apr 15, 2019 9:33:02 GMT -5
And she's a fine writer.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Mar 24, 2022 12:40:09 GMT -5
Either, I am extremely lucky (which in lotteries, raffles, slots I am not historically) or I was confused that all the first pages of the book have a plate with a Linda signature on them. The book order I made recently including a hard cover of Linda's book. Her book came with a card on first page (where the Revolutionary guy is on top) and the card which is much thicker than book paper with Linda Ronstadt signature? Are other's books like that? eddiejinfl
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2022 13:28:22 GMT -5
My 2 SD signed copies have Linda's signature on the inside title page paper itself. Bought both pre-owned.
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