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Post by cymru56 on Oct 29, 2016 8:02:44 GMT -5
The BBC4 documentary we were expecting following the release of The Complete Trio is to be televised in the UK at 10.00pm on Friday 4th November.
The hour long programme is described thus:-
The careers of Dolly Parton, Linda Ronstadt and Emmylou Harris all took off in the 1970's thanks to their very distinct takes on country music, but despite their diverging stories, they ended up harmonising together on 1987's Trio album. The three women look back on their careers as they discuss how they came to collaborate on the occasion of the release of their third album together, which features previously unreleased songs from their sessions.
I understand it is narrated by the singer KT Tunstall and also includes contributions by their peers and music industry experts.
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Post by fabtastique on Oct 29, 2016 13:18:03 GMT -5
YAY - thank you!! can't wait  |
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Post by eddiejinnj on Oct 29, 2016 13:46:34 GMT -5
I, of course, like others wish it would have aired at the time of release of the album but I do have to say that I was surprised the international sales and chartings for this album or version there of. can we see the show here? I guess we can stream it but have to adjust the timing. 10 pm on the 4th would be what morning time here on the 4th? I guess can look up time difference from London to NY. BRB
I was wrong it is only 5 hours. Ergo, the show would air here on Eastern time USA at 5 pm. Thanks so much for the heads up!!!!!! I would like to know the story of how KT got to narrate it. Well, I guess she is British (and they tapped contemporary talent there)? Am sorry KT fans but I do not know here other than "Horse and the Cherry Tree". I am looking forward to what she says and the others scheduled to appear on the special say as well. eddiejinnj
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Post by fabtastique on Oct 30, 2016 2:20:43 GMT -5
sure it will be on BBC Player after the event . . .
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Post by the Scribe on Oct 30, 2016 4:02:41 GMT -5
Review
by Sarah Carson
Thirty years ago, after years of mutual admiration and thwarted plans to collaborate, three of America's biggest artists – Dolly Parton, Emmylou Harris and Linda Ronstadt – recorded their first album together, Trio. The women came from varied musical backgrounds - Appalachian “mountain music” for Dolly, folk for Emmylou and California rock for Linda - but the breathtaking, mellifluous harmonies and timeless natural sounds on the album, released in 1987, made it a worldwide success (and spawned a follow-up, Trio II, in 1999). In this marvellous film, the three women, their peers, and music industry experts reminisce.
Summary
How Dolly Parton, Linda Ronstadt and Emmylou Harris's careers took off in the 1970s with very distinct takes on country music, before they came together to collaborate on a successful album in 1987. The artists talk about uniting as harmony singers, focusing on how their alliance made them pioneers in bringing different music worlds together and raising the game for women in the country tradition.
Cast & Crew
Narrator KT Tunstall
Director Dione Newton
Executive Producer Mark Cooper
Producer Dione Newton Sisters In Country: Dolly, Linda And Emmylou Confirmed for BBC Four on 4 November at 10pm to 11pm
Friday 4 November
10.00pm-11.00pm
BBC FOUR
NEW
In this new one-hour BBC Four documentary, narrator KT Tunstall explores how Dolly Parton, Linda Ronstadt and Emmylou Harris’s careers took off in the 1970s.
Although they had very distinct takes on country, the three women ended up uniting as friends and close-harmony singers to record their 1987 album Trio, which helped launch the Mountain Music revival of the 90s and beyond.
Dolly, Linda and Emmylou were all born in the late 1940s and grew up in very different parts of the USA. In the mid-to-late 60s they launched their careers in Nashville, LA and Greenwich Village respectively.
If Dolly put a new spin on the old-fashioned country ‘girl’ singer by writing her own songs and proving sharper than the guys, Linda Ronstadt’s ear for classic country was part of her jukebox sensibility that made her the biggest female star on FM radio in mid-70s USA.
Meanwhile, folkie Emmylou learned about country from mentor Gram Parsons, and, after his early death in 1973, became a bandleader, country curator and revivalist in her own right. She recorded albums in California that placed Beatles’ songs alongside classic honky-tonk albums that could never have been made in the Nashville studio system, and which made her a star with the college crowd.
If Linda and Emmylou brought country to the kids who’d begun as Beatles’ fans, Dolly was country through and through - but somehow managed to transcend the country market. Dolly went to Hollywood claiming she’d taken country with her and became a global superstar with her 1980s hit Nine To Five. Linda continued to diversify as a song and genre interpreter, taking in new wave and the Great American Songbook, while Emmylou became the untarnished champion of many styles of country.
This is the story of Dolly, Linda and Emmylou’s friendship and musical sisterhood over several decades, how they united their different audiences and raised the game for women in the country tradition.
Pictured: Dolly Parton and Emmylou Harris
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Post by fabtastique on Nov 4, 2016 14:36:50 GMT -5
looking forward to this later!
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Post by eddiejinnj on Nov 4, 2016 15:34:37 GMT -5
Thanks for reminder. Show is on 5 pm here. I guess will just search bbc4 and see what happens. thanks!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by eddiejinnj on Nov 4, 2016 15:50:28 GMT -5
According to ViewAbroad site, it is not available in our region. Not sure if it means whole US. Feel free to try and if somebody finds an easy link please share? Thanks much!!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by ausfan2 on Nov 5, 2016 3:49:06 GMT -5
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Post by the Scribe on Nov 5, 2016 4:37:36 GMT -5
AWESOME VIDEO!! THANKS FOR FINDING AND POSTING THIS FOR US.
BBC managed to merge the lives of these three great musicians into a wonderful, balanced, folksy documentary. It left me wanting more. I dare say TRIO is the most authentic music ever created in a studio. I lived in the heart of Appalachia for five years, my Daddy (that's how they say it there) and his family line goes back into the hills and hollers for generations and like the music the people are genuine and almost live in a different time. That is where I learned my great appreciation for Hill music and developed my love for Bluegrass, especially Bluegrass Gospel. Trio is classified as Mountain music although I've always thought of Appalachia as hills more than mountains. Often a solitary place. And that is where I met the beautiful Linda, right in the heart of Appalachia!
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Post by fabtastique on Nov 5, 2016 7:14:27 GMT -5
it was OK, not much new but the most shameful and unforgiving (and unnecessary part) was them overdubbing the 1987 Trio show clips with the recorded album versions . . . WHY?
George Massenburg was great to hear, as was George Lucas talking about the To Know Him Is To Love Him video (describing himself as the boyfriend!)
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Post by fabtastique on Nov 5, 2016 16:36:37 GMT -5
Hindsight, 30 mins of nothing new clips, 20 mins of completely irrelevant material (clips of Porter Wagoner, Loretta Lynne, Alison Krause, oh Brother Where art thou etc) and 10 mins of ok chat/interview by Dolly, Linda and Emmylou
Dull dull dull and not worthy of Trio and BBC.
Trio 1 and Trio 2 had about 10 mins of whole hour at max ......
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Post by the Scribe on Nov 5, 2016 18:13:42 GMT -5
I liked it even better the second time. Almost everything about Dolly and Emmy was new to me plus there was new footage with Linda that I hadn't seen before which tells me there are probably full performances out there yet to be released. There are also some new to me Linda photos to cull. Rabid Linda fans probably won't gain much more knowledge about Linda than they don't already know unless her membership in the Bilderberger's is somehow revealed. I had never heard John Boylan's take on Linda before and it was really nice to see George Lucas and Linda admitting they were ever a couple lol. The most significant thing musically for me was pushing the Mountain Music theme which may not seem like a big thing now but considering the distaste for Country Music by its own fans it appears that genre may be growing significantly. I had always considered it more Bluegrass or Americana but Mountain makes sense. Linda has long talked about the roots of Country Music coming from the Hills of Appalachia whose folk were descended from the Irish, Scotch, English after massive immigrations. Linda was right when she said stars like Alison Krauss have benefitted from the Trio Mountain sound. I may be wrong but Alison Krauss is probably the most decorated "Country" star out there. Alison had resonated with me from the beginning which is why she is one of the few artists whose cds line my music collection.
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Post by fabtastique on Nov 5, 2016 18:16:39 GMT -5
Trio definitely paved the way for the resurgence in traditional country music, yes this was highlighted in the BBC show but still found it disappointing - Too much talk and not enough performance and not enough Linda!
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Post by the Scribe on Nov 5, 2016 18:22:57 GMT -5
Trio definitely paved the way for the resurgence in traditional country music, yes this was highlighted in the BBC show but still found it disappointing - Too much talk and not enough performance and not enough Linda!
I do agree with that. It left me wanting more and could've should've been a two hour special.
I also would have to say that today's Country Music is somewhat an offshoot of the Country Rock Linda helped pioneer although it has somewhat gone awry and into an extreme direction from what it was. |
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Post by erik on Nov 5, 2016 18:55:20 GMT -5
Quote by ronstadtfanaz:
Maybe that was true of mainstream country music in the 1990s, but it's now far truer in fringe, or alt-country/Americana, artists like Margo Price, Caitlin Rose, and Tift Merritt than it is in what's getting played on mainstream country radio. Carrie Underwood and Miranda Lambert are the only two female acts getting much in the way of airplay on country radio these days; and when it comes to Linda's influence, Carrie has a fair bit of it (starting with her having done "Different Drum" at Linda's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction in 2014), but there hasn't been much with Miranda, no matter how much one wants to make of her doing "Willing" in her concerts of late (that, and her voice is way too wiry). Women like Trisha Yearwood (natch!), Martina McBride, and Patty Loveless, to name just three, who are unabashed fans of Linda's and who exude more of her influence in their material, now can't even get arrested on radio. Most of the stuff you hear is just a lot of horrible macho-male posturing about screwing girls on the tailgates of pick-up trucks on dirt roads, and drinking so much beer that they are legally intoxicated within fifteen minutes--the Bro Country curse.
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Post by markv on Nov 5, 2016 19:05:51 GMT -5
This program was very complimentary of Linda - pointing out just how great she is. I was happy to see that.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Nov 6, 2016 6:49:54 GMT -5
Don't have time for a full review per se now but I think there just was too much stuff (vs not much stuff in Trio song "I've Had Enough" lol) to fit in one hour. I think that is the main issue. The background is important but they need to do a second one to discuss more of the albums themselves (song selection, etc) including the third disc on the new set. We found it very well done overall, though. eddiejinnj
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Post by erik on Nov 6, 2016 12:42:27 GMT -5
I thought the show did a very thorough job of explaining how these three women, who come, after all, from widely diverse cultural, social, and geographical backgrounds, became friends during the great musical melting pot that was the 1970s. Dolly did get a fair amount of attention because of her impoverished childhood and how it made her driven to succeed, even at the expense of ticking off the Nashville establishment; but it's not like Linda or Emmy were given short shrift. Some of that footage from Linda's 1971 appearances at the Troubadour (which I suspect were taken from A History Of The Eagles) I had never seen before, and the comment from music historians like Robert Oermann about how Music Row didn't initially react well to the three of them even doing the first Trio album was significant, because the idea of a female supergroup was so totally unprecedented in country music. And the additional comments from Chris Hillman and Laura Cantrell (if Laura's comment about Linda at the end is any indication, she is a fan) were important in placing the collaboration between Linda, Dolly, and Emmylou in an historical context.
All in all, I can't complain about how it was all done. What I think is revelatory, though, is that the BBC is willing to do a special like this with such naked enthusiasm, whilst all the cable music channel outlets here in America, especially those of the country music variety, act as if these three women never existed. That ought to gall a lot of people (IMHO).
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Post by eddiejinnj on Nov 6, 2016 13:03:18 GMT -5
That was one thing I was going to say also, Erik, that they should have this caliber show in the USA on the Trio and ,of course, Linda solo too. eddiejinnj
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Post by moe on Nov 6, 2016 18:18:58 GMT -5
I think the show was well done and I enjoyed it very much. Yes it was a bit Dollycentric, but from the perspective of Emmylou and Linda, Dolly was apparently a primary driving force and inspiration behind the project. I think that Porter Wagner was significant in that it was he whom Dolly dumped in favor of a solo career and earned her the respect of Linda and Emmylou. To be honest at that point I was really hoping to hear Linda's rendition of "I will always Love you" but alas it wasn't to be.
A final thought-boy did (cousin)David Linley and Albert Lee look old -where has time gone! Final final thought- did anyone else get the impression from the show that Peter Asher had passed? I just googled him and in the immortal words of Mark Twain "The rumors of his death were somewhat exaggerated" glad to see he's alive and kicking.
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Post by the Scribe on Nov 6, 2016 18:32:21 GMT -5
That was one thing I was going to say also, Erik, that they should have this caliber show in the USA on the Trio and ,of course, Linda solo too. eddiejinnj
I think BBC is the master of the documentary. It would take a Ken Burns here or maybe a George Lucas to do the American version with any justice.
I did a number of screen captures from the documentary and they are located here:
ronstadt.proboards.com/thread/1066/linda-ronstadt-photos-13-favorites?page=16
THE LAST PHOTO SAYS IT ALL LOL
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 21:49:43 GMT -5
Agree that BBC does this stuff best.. Ken Burns perhaps could do it justice also..
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Post by Alangee on Nov 8, 2016 12:35:55 GMT -5
Haven't I read that Ken Burns is currently working on a Country Music history for TV?
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Post by eddiejinnj on Nov 9, 2016 10:14:48 GMT -5
Is that a history of the genre in general, which should include the ladies or one more focused to the Trio? eddiejinnj
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Post by Alangee on Nov 9, 2016 10:53:38 GMT -5
Sorry, it's the former and it is not due out until 2019 in any case. If you google "Ken Burns Country" there's loads all about it. Emmylou and Willie get a mention on the entry I looked at but not, I fear, Linda!
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Post by moe on Nov 9, 2016 14:07:57 GMT -5
Sorry, it's the former and it is not due out until 2019 in any case. If you google "Ken Burns Country" there's loads all about it. Emmylou and Willie get a mention on the entry I looked at but not, I fear, Linda! With respect to the above I have a feeling that if Emmylou is involved much i.e. interviewed, that Linda will come up at some point. |
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Post by linda2006nicci on Dec 25, 2016 6:30:52 GMT -5
Wonderful BBC4 documentary!
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