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Post by sliderocker on Jun 3, 2016 23:47:30 GMT -5
The Greatest, the Champ, Muhammad Ali, has died in Phoenix following a three decades long battle with Parkinson's, with pneumonia a contributing cause. He was 74. Words cannot adequately describe him, save for the fact he was the Greatest, whether he was inside the ring or outside it. RIP. www.msn.com/en-us/news/livecoverage/breaking-news-now/lc-BBtQrqq
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 4, 2016 5:39:10 GMT -5
The Greatest, the Champ, Muhammad Ali, has died in Phoenix following a three decades long battle with Parkinson's, with pneumonia a contributing cause. He was 74. Words cannot adequately describe him, save for the fact he was the Greatest, whether he was inside the ring or outside it. RIP. www.msn.com/en-us/news/livecoverage/breaking-news-now/lc-BBtQrqq I know that is the hype about him but I never understood it. I mean boxing is a sport(?) that should be banned and it is true he was a character but he was also anti-MLK, a segregationist, dodged the draft (which is fine by me) but frankly I don't get it. Every single media outlet is non-stop how great Ali was. I must admit that I am not a sports fan observer and think its value is for health reasons and team building if it is that type of sport. His work in Parkinson's Disease or the work done in his name is certainly to be commended. Probably lots of other reasons I am not aware of but if anyone can enlighten me I am open.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 8:36:51 GMT -5
As I see it, Muhammad Ali was a charismatic self promoter, but unlike someone like Trump, backed up his boasts by his performance. However, he truly became an idol (at least to me) when he put his career and even his freedom on the line by refusing to serve in the barbaric Vietnam war. Ali put it better than I could:
"Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on Brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No I’m not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would cost me millions of dollars. But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is here. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality. If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people they wouldn’t have to draft me, I’d join tomorrow. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I’ll go to jail, so what? We’ve been in jail for 400 years.”
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Post by erik on Jun 4, 2016 11:15:42 GMT -5
Put it simply, Ali was a man who put his money where his mouth was--and you can't say that about too many people these days, either in sports or politics.
May he now rest in peace in that great big boxing ring in the sky.
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Post by moe on Jun 4, 2016 16:51:34 GMT -5
He was arguably the greatest boxer (a shining jewel in a sleazy sport) and perhaps the greatest athlete ever. For a long time the most recognizable and admired person in the world. A family man and a humble, generous man ( yes he was a lover of "shstich" but that didn't limit or truly define him) His courage and dedication to his principles in all aspects of his life was undeniable. Perhaps most importantly, he was a proud Black Man who confronted white institutional power and even disease on his own terms and kicked ass. RIP.
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 4, 2016 20:53:11 GMT -5
Thanks!! But none of what you all have mentioned is what the media is talking about during his death. They are just going for the glitz, the ugly stuff that makes him look and act like Donald Trump.
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Post by erik on Jun 4, 2016 21:20:46 GMT -5
Quote by ronstadtfanaz:
The difference between him and Trump is that, as I've said, Ali put money where his mouth is. Trump just likes to flaunt it in your face and then has the gall to run for the presidency.
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Post by jhar26 on Jun 5, 2016 13:28:38 GMT -5
Thanks!! But none of what you all have mentioned is what the media is talking about during his death. They are just going for the glitz, the ugly stuff that makes him look and act like Donald Trump. All during the era of that civil rights movement in the 1960's and 70's he was the personification of that famous James Brown song/rap "Say it loud! I'm black and I'm proud!" At his most militant he could come across as a racist in reverse, so to speak. But he felt that he had to put his thoughts in as strong a language as possible to make an impact. Sometimes you need to use extreme language to achieve the moderate/reasonable changes you are after. If you only use moderate language they will dismiss you and you'll get nothing. I love this. He was right of course.
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 10, 2016 13:41:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the education!
Seeing these comments and the way millions of others have reacted to his death but most of all to his life I feel humbled. (and stupid) To me it is an irony that it took a sport of violence to bring out a man of peace.
Today seems to be the day he will be most honored before he is laid to rest. Jesse Jackson said it best in this tribute.
He was a champion in the ring but a hero beyond the ring, a social transformer who used his high platform to speak out loudly against a system of oppression that undermined the very promise of America" .....Jesse Jackson
The best tribute to Muhammad Ali is a video of Ali himselfI have to add that I personally will be ever so grateful to him for lending his name to the Muhammad Ali Parkinson's Center in Phoenix which is doing great things in the battle of the disease that afflicts the love and heart of all our lives, Linda Ronstadt.
www.barrowneuro.org/get-to-know-barrow/centers-programs/muhammad-ali-parkinson-center/
Let Muhammad Ali be known, not as the man who floored Sonny Liston
A sledge hammer could have done that
But as the man who buried Parkinson Disease
Only the Greatest could do that
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Post by jhar26 on Jun 12, 2016 21:22:43 GMT -5
This is an incredible speech that EVERYONE should hear....
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