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Post by Dianna on Feb 5, 2016 20:19:27 GMT -5
What is everyone paying? First time I've seen it under $2.00 per gallon since.. I don't know when.... $1.99 at Astoria Oregon Safeway.. minus .20 cents shopper discount
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 5, 2016 20:45:27 GMT -5
Shop around, as the song says. Lowest I've seen here in central Oklahoma is $1.18 per gallon. The median price is around $1.49 and the most expensive is around $1.79. The most expensive don't get theirs from local distributors. And the governor and Republican-dominated legislature are in their crybaby mode, whining about all the tax revenue they now don't have because the price of a barrel of oil has dropped so low. The state of Oklahoma has a billion dollar short fall and it's all because the governor and the Republican legislature gutted programs and cut taxes, all the while cackling with an evil-like glee. They counted on the price of a barrel of oil remaining at an unreasonably high price and that was how they could support cutting the taxes. They didn't have a backup plan if oil prices tanked (no pun intended) and now it's come back to bite them in their collective butts.
Couldn't happen to a meaner bunch of Republicans. They could be the first Republican-dominated state to have declare bankruptcy at the state level. Of course, they'll probably go the President Obama and ask for emergency financial assistance. If they did that, if I were President Obama, I'd decline, pointing out the Republicans have always been the ones promoting the idea everyone profits from the free market system. The consumers are profiting from the low prices. Republican-dominated governments like Oklahoma and the oil companies are hurting, but neither one wants a happy middle ground where they don't lose so much and the consumers don't lose so much. Republicans and the oil companies want a system where we all lose while their profits are in 10 to 12 digits. They just didn't realize they have to lose occasionally.
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Post by Dianna on Feb 5, 2016 22:34:34 GMT -5
well it might be more expensive on the west coast Slide. I know it's more in so calif than here.. and from what I have noticed every time a republican gets in office they run this country in to the ground. gas prices were astronomical in 2007. I remember paying almost 5.00 a gallon in southern california.
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Post by erik on Feb 5, 2016 23:11:12 GMT -5
Nowadays here in SoCal, from what I have seen, it is "down" to $2.50 a gallon, average.
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 5, 2016 23:16:05 GMT -5
It's more expensive on the west coast, no question, but a lot of that expense are from state taxes that are passed on at the pump. It's a sneak tax most people don't realize is there, and don't realize the all states do it. Even the federal government collects a tax at the pump, but some states are more greedy than others for that gas pump tax. If those taxes were removed or lowered, the price could go down significantly lower. There is still talk that the price of a gallon of gas could drop below a dollar in some areas around the US. But, God help us if another Republican gets elected president and the Republicans retain control of the congress and the senate. For the oil companies, Republicans in control is always a reason to start singing "happy days are here again." Most people don't remember that before "Comrade Dubya" Bush stole the 2000 election, the price of a gallon of gas was under two dollars. After his theft, the oil companies started raising the price and during 9/11, some gas retailers hiked the price of gas to around $10 or more gallon. Even here in Oklahoma. But, Oklahoma was under Democratic control then and there was a law in place which made price gouging illegal. Retailers who hiked quickly lowered less they went to prison for gouging. With Republicans, no need to worry. All greed is good, and what's better than taking from those who need their money the most?
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Post by goldie on Feb 6, 2016 20:06:59 GMT -5
What is everyone paying? First time I've seen it under $2.00 per gallon since.. I don't know when.... $1.99 at Astoria Oregon Safeway.. minus .20 cents shopper discount averages by state:
www.gasbuddy.com/USA
Although the town I live in is 30 cents below my state average. At gasbuddy you can see by city also.
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 6, 2016 23:10:39 GMT -5
What is everyone paying? First time I've seen it under $2.00 per gallon since.. I don't know when.... $1.99 at Astoria Oregon Safeway.. minus .20 cents shopper discount averages by state:
www.gasbuddy.com/USA
Although the town I live in is 30 cents below my state average. At gasbuddy you can see by city also.
Gasbuddy is likely more accurate although the price of a gallon is still dropping - to a $1.16 last station/store I saw a couple of hours ago. Oklahoma's hidden gas tax is something like fifty-three cents and if that was taken out, the price of a gallon would be sixty-three cents. It's not always the oil companies that like to sock it to the public. A few years ago, when the price was approaching five dollars a gallon, the state debated suspending the tax during the summer to encourage people to spend what little money they had in the state. But, they couldn't bring themselves to wean themselves off the gas tax addiction, so it stayed on. If memory serves, I don't think any of the gas taxes exceed a dollar, although I could be wrong. I think California's was close to a dollar but not totally sure. I remember that when the rest of the country was around $2.50-3.00, California would be $4-5, and it was because of the hidden taxes. As I've always said, no politician, regardless of whether they are a Republican or Democrat, has never met a tax or fee they didn't like. Republicans like the hidden because it allows them to be against taxes publicly while passing them on via taxes at the pump or in hidden state fees on other goods. The hidden fees are ridiculous and most probably don't realize when they're tacked on. I don't have a problem with honest taxation but I do with hidden taxes and fees we don't know about. |
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Post by Belle on Feb 7, 2016 1:57:02 GMT -5
$1.32 in Lubbock currently
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Post by moe on Feb 7, 2016 14:33:35 GMT -5
As low as $1.49 in N. KY I heard a week or so ago it was like $.50 in Houghton Lake MI pretty much in the middle of nowhere. Hardly anyone lives there and the station ran out in hours.
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Post by Tony on Feb 7, 2016 14:38:51 GMT -5
$1.45 here in SC. But I just paid $1.75 at the "real gas station" because I only use gasoline that has not had ethanol added to it. I have convinced myself that it is better- and I have measured and know I get better gas mileage.
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 7, 2016 18:32:28 GMT -5
Here is a link to a listing of the taxes the states charge on a gallon of gas. I don't know how accurate it is as of today. It mentions the state and local taxes as being accurate as of April 2012, four years ago. So, if any state increased their gas taxes (and some probably did),it's not reflected here. Last I heard mention was that Oklahoma's gas tax is 53 cents per gallon and not 35.4 cents as shown here. I can't begin to imagine what it might be in other states. But, these taxes are supposed to be used to pay for maintenance on our state highways, county roads, city streets and bridges. Instead, the money gets diverted to things like adding more highway patrol troopers and cars and school related issues. I really favor an amendment barring the state from using the gas tax money for anything other than what it's intended for. It says something when we have some of the lousiest roads and bridges (add in all the earthquakes of late and now there is concern many state bridges near the epicenter have been damaged by the quakes) in the US and the governor claims we can't do anything to fix them because there's no money. Meanwhile, lower generating gas tax income states like Mississippi have some fairly good roads and they manage to keep up the maintenance. Oklahoma, under Republican control, is one of those states where the Republicans take their cue from the Republicans in the congress and the senate in Washington DC, in that they believe in the purpose of the government is to do nothing, even at the state level. And Oklahoma gets quite a bit of money from their own taxes and from the federal government, yet can't do nothing towards fixing our roads and bridges. www.gaspricewatch.com/web_gas_taxes.php |
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Post by moe on Feb 7, 2016 18:48:41 GMT -5
$1.45 here in SC. But I just paid $1.75 at the "real gas station" because I only use gasoline that has not had ethanol added to it. I have convinced myself that it is better- and I have measured and know I get better gas mileage. You are right ethanol has about 60% of the heating value of "real" gasoline so depending on the mix your mileage will decrease in proportion to the ethanol content. Try using E85-you'll be lucky to get across the street. The trouble is its hard to find the real McCoy, at least here in Indiana. |
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 7, 2016 19:53:26 GMT -5
$1.45 here in SC. But I just paid $1.75 at the "real gas station" because I only use gasoline that has not had ethanol added to it. I have convinced myself that it is better- and I have measured and know I get better gas mileage. You are right ethanol has about 60% of the heating value of "real" gasoline so depending on the mix your mileage will decrease in proportion to the ethanol content. Try using E85-you'll be lucky to get across the street. The trouble is its hard to find the real McCoy, at least here in Indiana. My brother likes using real gas in his pick up truck whereas I use E-10 in my new Chevy Cruze. I used real gas in my pick up truck and I never really noticed any difference between using real gas and E-10, when it came to mileage. It was about the same. The only difference was in the price: real gas was and is about fifty cents higher than E-10, and chances are you may think you're getting better mileage but you're getting less gas when you pay for the real gas. I filled up my brother's tank with E-10, and I think he gets more miles per gallon than what he thinks he gets. When he puts in real gas, it seems like it's used up rather quickly. His dashboard info on the gas indicates he's getting 8-12 miles per gallon on real gas. I haven't seen what he gets with the E-10 but again, it seems like it doesn't need to be refilled quite so much. Of course, his pick up truck is a newer pick up truck to what my old truck was, and that could be why there wasn't much difference on which gas I used. But, I think E-10 gets a bum rap and that there are people who would rather use real gas no matter what. E85 is crap and should be done away with as it is more costly to the consumer. |
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