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Post by erik on Aug 7, 2012 20:30:19 GMT -5
Joan admitted that Heart Like A Wheel did influence her approach to Pretty Little Stranger. It seems far more convincing than a lot of the processed wanna-be stuff that has come out of Nashville the last fifteen years (IMHO).
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Post by buttercup521 on Aug 7, 2012 20:38:13 GMT -5
erik, I had no idea! That made my day. PLS feels like an album Linda would have made if she were in her prime right now.
I agree with your comment on the last 15 years of Nashville. I will admit to liking a lot of it but mostly because I try to appreciate it for what it is. I'll cop to loving the Chesneys of the world but I do love acts that can really sing and do justice to real songwriters.
I prefer the more rootsy acts that aren't really even country anymore like Steve Earle, Roseane Cash and Rodney Crowell.
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 17, 2013 20:06:47 GMT -5
Should I be closing these when I find them? A flaw in the system?
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Post by Pete on Jul 27, 2015 15:39:08 GMT -5
...okay, I've been a fan of Linda Ronstadt's since December last year and while Mariah Carey is the artist with the voice I have always measured every other artist against, Linda is in her own league. I'm not saying that I put her at number one just yet, I'm listening to the Get Closer at the moment so I have a long way to go until I could say that.
Are there any other artists that people think are similar to Linda or is there nobody like her? I enjoy Bette Midler's music but I don't find it similar other than the era and they have sang a few of the same songs. Susanna Hoffs has covered a few of Linda's songs but I still don't find her that similar to Linda either. As far as singing style goes, there is only Ren Harvieu that I find there are some similarites, mainly the power and the old-fashioned style of singing, but I don't think Linda is one of her influences. If anyone was going to cover the outstanding vocal abilites shown by Linda is songs such as 'Long Long Time,' 'Faithless Love' or 'The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress' (just to name a few) I would say it should be Ren Harvieu. Her album Through The Night was the best album of 2012 for me, nothing else came close.
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Post by erik on Jul 27, 2015 17:27:03 GMT -5
I think this is one of those aspects of Linda that few people realize (largely because the media, even in the music industry, doesn't talk about it) that her influence on other female artists, especially those of the roots-rock, mainstream country, and even alt-country genres, is so widespread. This isn't to say that they all have to sound like her, because they don't have to (and can't really anyway), but so many of them, Susanna Hoffs included, have tagged Linda as a big influence on them wanting to be singers.
Probably the biggest fan of Linda's in the music business, regardless of genre, is the one whom I will emphatically not call Mrs. Garth Brooks--Trisha Yearwood. And that's just for starters, because the list would be long, and it will be distinguished.
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Post by cescpa on Jul 27, 2015 19:30:45 GMT -5
of the female artists that I like to listen to, at this stage of my lifetime, I would put the following vocalists in Linda's class (for pure talent and their angelic sound, at least to my ears)
Alison Krauss
Eva Cassidy
Martina McBride
Tift Merritt
and Andrea Corr
I'm probably forgetting a few more (maybe like Karen Carpenter or Ann Wilson, to name a few), but these come to the top of my mind
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Post by Country But... on Jul 27, 2015 20:51:26 GMT -5
I often felt that, of all the performers I've seen live, the only one with a voice as powerful and pitch-perfect as Linda was Reba McEntire. As far as Linda's 1970s music, I think Karla Bonoff has much of the same stylings/phrasings. And to see Karla live is amazing (with her guitarist Nina Gerber) and the closest we have left now to a Linda concert.
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Post by Dianna on Jul 27, 2015 22:17:11 GMT -5
I think as far as sound.. for me Jennifer Warnes IMO comes closest to the Linda sound.
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Post by Guest on Jul 27, 2015 23:12:15 GMT -5
I can't think of anyone that comes close to Linda. Not saying there aren't great female singers out there but NONE like Linda. She is in a league of her own and I doubt we will see anything like it again (I hope I am wrong). Granted, she has qualitatively a voice of an angel and knows how to use it, this is not in my humble opinion the reason of her extraordinary success or why listening to her can be hypnotic (speaking for myself here). What makes her out of this world amazing is that she sings from her heart and her sincerity together with that voice makes her untouchable. Her charisma doesn't hurt either.
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Post by Goldie on Jul 28, 2015 2:18:14 GMT -5
hmmm.... maybe Elvis.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 8:49:14 GMT -5
Linda is unique when it comes to both her talent and career.... I am glad that cescpa mentioned the talented Tift Merritt. Erik and I have championed her for years, and I have had the privilege of seeing her and also meeting her in person over the years. It is extra gratifying when an artist you admire is both delightful and accessible in person....
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Post by erik on Jul 28, 2015 8:55:00 GMT -5
Tift Merritt (and Robert and I would like to think cescpa for having us find out about her in 2002) definitely shows a lot of Linda's influence, and has said as much in a number of interviews. The same thing holds true for Jennifer Warnes, not only on "Right Time Of The Night" but also (and even more so, in my opinion) on the later "I Know A Heartache When I See One."
Here's another one influenced by Linda, but quite a bit younger--Caitlin Rose, in fact placing money where her mouth is in this live 2011 performance in Berlin of "Faithless Love":
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Post by To My Ear on Jul 28, 2015 9:29:47 GMT -5
I am listening to Jennifer Warnes's The Hunter (1992), the only CD I have, and it sounds like Joni Mitchell, not Linda. Is there another album of hers to listen to that is closer to Linda?
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Post by erik on Jul 28, 2015 9:46:16 GMT -5
Quote by To My Ear:
There's her self-titled 1976 album (which has "Right Time Of The Night") and 1979's Shot Through The Heart (with "I Know A Heartache When I See One").
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Post by Lrfan on Jul 28, 2015 9:51:43 GMT -5
Goldie, I think that is actually very true about Elvis Presley and Linda. I hadn't thought of it before. But both had a blazingly electric and vital presence. Even when they just stood there. You love when they rock and cry when they sing about heartbreak. And no matter what they sing they sound only like their authentic selves and not copies of anyone else. Bonnie Raitt has that quality too but perfected it and kept it in more of a single box. Linda gave us the gift of her musical diversity, the restlessness,and even stubbornness and modesty that kept her striving to try one new thing after another.
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Post by JasonKlose on Jul 28, 2015 14:45:24 GMT -5
I think as far as sound.. for me Jennifer Warnes IMO comes closest to the Linda sound. It's very interesting and ironic that you would mention this Dianna, because when I interviewed Linda, she said that Jennifer Warnes was one of her favorites. We were talking about the songwriters she liked and the songs that she chose to sing and I mentioned Randy Newman. Linda said she didn't think she sang his songs very well and that Jennifer Warnes sang his songs much better.
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Post by Goldie on Jul 28, 2015 15:50:34 GMT -5
Goldie, I think that is actually very true about Elvis Presley and Linda.
Yes Lrfan... both with exceptional good looks, multi genres with authenticity and class, charismatic, humble, kind to others. Fortunately for us Linda was able to stay grounded and alive to die at an old age.
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Post by erik on Jul 28, 2015 17:26:40 GMT -5
An artist whom we've talked about on a number of occasions--Mandy Barnett, another singer who counts Our Girl as an influence. Here she is, doing Jimmy Webb's "I Keep It Hid", which Linda made her own in '89:
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Post by Dianna on Jul 28, 2015 18:32:07 GMT -5
Good singer, and she looks a lot like Hallmark Channel DIY girl Tanya Memme.. I had check twice.. the resemblance is uncanny. Tanya is the one on the bottom. Mandy is the first photo..
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Post by daveb on Jul 28, 2015 18:33:09 GMT -5
I am listening to Jennifer Warnes's The Hunter (1992), the only CD I have, and it sounds like Joni Mitchell, not Linda. Is there another album of hers to listen to that is closer to Linda? Wow, The Hunter is one of my favorite albums of all time - a great one.
As to the original question, lots of my favorites have already been mentioned . But no one has mentioned Tracy yet. This is a beautiful song if you've never heard it and I just love the piano accompaniment at the end: Tracy Nelson
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Post by Tony on Jul 28, 2015 20:09:13 GMT -5
I got the CD for Jennifer Warnes' Shot Through the Heart in the mail today. Not much in the way of credits is included, but as I looked at the cover, it looked like something that might be designed by Kosh. Does anyone know if that is true? I no longer have the LP.
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Post by erik on Jul 28, 2015 22:38:39 GMT -5
Maria McKee, the former lead singer of the much-underrated 1980s "cowpunk" band Lone Justice, credited Linda with having given her a start in the music business, and, following Linda's Parkinson's diagnosis, remarked that she owed Linda's sweet heart and epic voice so much. Here she is, from her 1993 album You Gotta Sin To Get Saved, with her C&W-inflected song "Only Once":
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Post by Goldie on Jul 29, 2015 1:44:42 GMT -5
Linda trailer:
a documentary?
If you like Linda your will like Delouise who counts Linda as an influence and sings many Linda songs. Very appealing to me anyway:
Delouise
If you want a Linda sound-a-like Amy Wooley may be the closest to her country pop voice.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 29, 2015 7:28:42 GMT -5
There has been an occasion or two when I thought Jennifer was Linda or sounded like her and a couple of songs of Trisha's. eddiejinnj
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Post by PoP80 on Jul 29, 2015 9:53:43 GMT -5
I think it's pretty well known that Jennifer Warnes sounds a lot like Linda. That worked against her since the were contemporaries and Linda was already at the height of her popularity. Bottom line--Linda is Linda and nobody really compares to her sound or persona.
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Post by MokyWI on Jul 29, 2015 10:35:32 GMT -5
Tony, you are correct in thinking Kosh did the album design and packaging artwork for the album Shot Through The Heart for Jennifer Warnes. You are a lucky man to have found yourself a copy of that release. It has been out of print for years. I have been tying to find a copy on vinyl that was in good condition and no skipping. I have had no luck at all. Half Price Books here in Madison WI often buy batches of albums that never sold. When they do that you can find many copies of the same album in perfect condition. BE AWARE, when retailers do this they do not check the playable quality of the albums and many times they will skip all the way through. Defective albums that are brand new will not have the machine slice through the album cover. Those slices mean the album had been shipped back to manufacture because the albums didn't sell usually due to over projection of possible sales when they pressed the albums at the factory. Retailers then have the option of buying those albums again from manufacture at a discount price once the slice has been made in the jacket. The savings is then passed onto the customer. That is why you can find many copies of Living In the USA by Linda in the cut out bins in record stores. LITUSA had an initial shipment of two million albums. I believe that made it the first album in history at that time to ship two million copies right out of the box. So beware, if you see brand new copies of an album that has been long out of print on vinyl in the second hand bins, and they do NOT have the cut out slice those usually are defected copies. DON"T WASTE YOUR MONEY. Unless of course you are looking for brand new packaging without a cut out on the album cover and you don't care about the albums playability. Another thing to consider is that many albums that were stopped being pressed on vinyl and now since the resergence of vinyl many albums are being release BRAND NEW in album format (vinyl). In that case the rerelease will be in the bins for brand new albums not the second hand bins. This makes me wonder who Half Price Books bought those defective albums that were never opened and sold them as used. Record manufactures will pull defective albums so they can not be resold. Since albums are pressed in batches it is easy to figure out what batch of the album were defective. A history of returns for an album of a certain batch is a sign for the manufactre that a certain batch was defective. Half Price Books got their hands on a huge amount of these albums and tried to sell them unopened in their second hand bins. It is against the law for the manufacture to resale damaged unopened copies of defective albums. It is also against the law for album retailers to buy these unopened defective albums. They should be destroyed but obviously many times are not. Someone gets their hands on them and resells them to second hand album stores. Sorry if this was long winded and convoluted.
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Post by Dianna on Jul 29, 2015 15:51:05 GMT -5
Re: Jennifer Warnes Shot Through the Heart LP. I see there are some ebay. I loved that album, mine got all scratched up from listening. I do think the artwork was by Kosh, if memory serves me.. not 100 percent positive. There are a few CD's I want to get/order and I'm thinking Shot through the heart needs to be played again.. The room photo.. very early shabby chic..
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jul 29, 2015 18:20:29 GMT -5
I always say life is perception but to me Jennifer and Linda do not sound A LOT alike. a few lines here and there maybe. Jennifer does not sound at all like Linda in "I've Had the Time of My Life." Like people have said, Linda is in her OWN league, PERIOD. Unless it is just Linda using her amazing talent of using her instrument to replicate sound, I would say that Valerie Carter would sound the most like Linda using "After the Goldrush" as the example. at times, after hearing it probably 100 times, there are parts of the song where I am still not sure who is who. eddiejinnj
PS: I have always thought that Linda was the female Elvis as far as diversity, talent and staying power. eddiejinnj
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Post by erik on Jul 29, 2015 21:16:11 GMT -5
There's also Nashville songwriter/singer Matraca Berg, whose husband is Jeff Hanna of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (and was also a member of Linda's Corvettes in 1968-69). It is said that, when Linda's version of her 1990 song "Walk On" was about to come out, she had asked the friends in the room she was listening to in to keep silent. Matraca was thrilled to have had a song of hers recorded by one of her childhood heroes. Here's Matraca with another song that Linda probably could have done (also from 1990), "The Things You Left Undone":
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Post by philly on Jul 29, 2015 23:32:15 GMT -5
I hear a lot of Linda in Joan Baez or vice-versa. I'd be surprised if Joan didn't have at least some influence on Linda's style.
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