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Post by Sloan on May 13, 2015 13:23:03 GMT -5
,...would she have done one more tour, say like a farewell tour? Or a Vegas stand? A retrospective concert that would've cover songs throughout her storied, diverse career including songs from The Stone Pony's, Spanish era and Nelson Riddle? Maybe have two sets: one set on her music from her pop/rock/country phase and then the second set the Riddle/Canciones era?
That would've been something but logistically and financially a nightmare to set-up, I bet.
But still, wouldn't that be a great concert to attend?
What do you guys/gals think?
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Post by erik on May 13, 2015 13:59:31 GMT -5
Well, I think Vegas was o-u-t for her (remember July 17, 2004?). And I don't know about the retrospective concert, because, while it sure would have been a great thing, it would surely have also taxed her out.
However, if memory serves me correct, in an interview that she and John Boylan gave that appeared in the Arizona Star in October 2013, sometime early in 2012, she was planning to record an acoustic album which, sonically speaking, was close to what she had done in the early 1970s, with her even playing acoustic guitar.
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Post by ronstadtfan4ever on May 13, 2015 14:49:13 GMT -5
Honestly think she was done with touring ...but it would have been amazing to see a farewell show!  ))' |
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Post by Belle on May 13, 2015 15:16:48 GMT -5
We can only dream *sigh*
She sang on through her early years of Parkinson's, unknowing. If she'd never contracted that illness, she would have continued to reinvent herself in other ways musically, and we'd buy everything she put out, as always, just to hear what she's doing with that beautiful voice of hers. She never put a note wrong.
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 13, 2015 22:56:03 GMT -5
I think she was touring quite a bit and would have continued recording if not for her voice issues. I saw her a good amt in the 2000's. eddiejinnj
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Post by fabtastique on May 13, 2015 23:55:50 GMT -5
There was also talk of a Jimmy Webb album, which I was hoping would have been pretty much all newly recorded material rather than what might get released now - a collection of the stuff she's previously recorded by him. But if we get that and Trio 3 with a few "new" tracks I'll be happy  |
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Post by linda on May 15, 2015 13:13:35 GMT -5
,...would she have done one more tour, say like a farewell tour? Or a Vegas stand? A retrospective concert that would've cover songs throughout her storied, diverse career including songs from The Stone Pony's, Spanish era and Nelson Riddle? Maybe have two sets: one set on her music from her pop/rock/country phase and then the second set the Riddle/Canciones era? That would've been something but logistically and financially a nightmare to set-up, I bet. But still, wouldn't that be a great concert to attend? What do you guys/gals think? I don't think she would have toured any large venues. She said the other night that she was done with that, years ago. She said she likes small venues. I like your idea of a retrospective tour, limited engagements but realistically, Parkinson's or not, she is still 68 years old and has toured for 40+ years. I think it is more than we can ask of her. At what point is it enough and she can have her own life. Think of it in this way, what if you worked at the same job where you have to be out of town endlessly for well over 40 years, working your ass off. Age 62 or even 65 when many people want to retire comes around and you still are working. You are nearing 70 and are still expected to work. I think you might say "enough already , when do I get to enjoy my life". I know I would. Just sayin. |
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Post by erik on May 15, 2015 16:50:12 GMT -5
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Well, in a very real sense, Linda's life was singing. The wear, tear, and repetitious grind of touring for all those decades, yes, I certainly understand that she'd get tired of it. Any sane person would (but then the music business has very few sane people in it [LOL]). But if she still could, I think Linda still would be singing, though in more intimate venues than before.
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Post by sliderocker on May 15, 2015 23:27:30 GMT -5
Well, in a very real sense, Linda's life was singing. The wear, tear, and repetitious grind of touring for all those decades, yes, I certainly understand that she'd get tired of it. Any sane person would (but then the music business has very few sane people in it [LOL]). But if she still could, I think Linda still would be singing, though in more intimate venues than before. Had she not been silenced by the Parkinsons, I tend to believe she would still have been recording albums of new songs of various genres. Touring on the other hand, not so much as she was never one who liked touring or especially wanted to do it. In her words, she was a homebody but who knows how much her celebrity life had consumed her personal time and interfered with her personal life? Perhaps to the point she didn't have much of a personal life at all. Her musical career was, professionally, about 41 years and while no doubt she could've followed the route of many of her peers, perhaps she didn't want to do that. Some performers keep going and going, never wanting to retire although some probably should have. Linda, I think, may have reached the stage where she had done all she wanted to do, before the diagnosis of the Parkinsons, and decided it was time to call it a day. And perhaps she also looked at her peers who kept going and keep going and didn't want the world to watch her do the same, as she grew older before their eyes and perhaps with her singing voice growing weaker. But, what she would've done was a what if question never to be answered, thanks to her Parkinson's diagnosis. |
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Post by Dalton on May 16, 2015 3:16:20 GMT -5
I think Linda was through with recording and the recording business long ago. It became too much of a chore and her illness was a good excuse not to feel beholden to help other struggling talents. She may have had enough in the can to put out a few collaborative efforts by recording a few songs here and there but outside of her efforts with Hispanic youth and the arts it seemed obvious she was done. Look at the time between the last few albums before her illness kicked in. This may be a good time for her to tie up a few loose ends. She still has lots of fans and reason to continue with her talking tour and is still quite relevant and loved. Linda needs to be loved. She always has.
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Post by sliderocker on May 16, 2015 11:48:13 GMT -5
I think Linda was through with recording and the recording business long ago. It became too much of a chore and her illness was a good excuse not to feel beholden to help other struggling talents. She may have had enough in the can to put out a few collaborative efforts by recording a few songs here and there but outside of her efforts with Hispanic youth and the arts it seemed obvious she was done. Look at the time between the last few albums before her illness kicked in. This may be a good time for her to tie up a few loose ends. She still has lots of fans and reason to continue with her talking tour and is still quite relevant and loved. Linda needs to be loved. She always has. The time between new albums was not a good indicator that an artist was finished with recording them. By the 90s, it had almost become common place for the artists to release a new album every three to five years instead of one new album every year or every other year. Artists may have felt that time between albums allowed them to make better albums but that was a questionable argument at best. It also carried a negative with it as in many instances, there were no accompanying hit singles and very little promotion, so fans may not have been aware of a new album and that impacted. Another negative that impacted sales was where one time fans had lost interest and simply didn't care that an artist had released a new album. Linda's talking tour may be few and far between and only as her health permits, and her interest in doing them. There may not be as many as one would hope, given the effects Parkinson's has on her, not to mention her diabetes and whatever else. I'd love to see her and meet her personally but not to the extent that I want her to risk her health. I'd hate to put that kind of pressure on her and she suffered as a result. I'm hoping she'll be around for a long time to come and don't want her doing anything that could help her illnesses shorten her life. |
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Post by Dalton on May 17, 2015 2:57:08 GMT -5
The fact that Linda herself said she was tired of the road and the touring needed for any new album was a pretty good indicator that she was finished. She also claimed to be semi-retired which to me means slowing down before stopping. All good indicators for Linda and for others with her sentiments.
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Post by sliderocker on May 17, 2015 15:41:27 GMT -5
The fact that Linda herself said she was tired of the road and the touring needed for any new album was a pretty good indicator that she was finished. She also claimed to be semi-retired which to me means slowing down before stopping. All good indicators for Linda and for others with her sentiments. Before the Parkinson's diagnosis was made and made this really a moot issue, Linda could've recorded a new album but it didn't necessarily mean she had to tour in support of a new album. Touring doesn't always mean an artist or band is doing so to support a new album. There may not be a new album to speak of. There are any number of artists and bands touring now who don't have a new album but who are still doing concerts because that keeps some money coming in. That's especially true of artists and bands from the 70s, who may not even have a record contract any longer. Strictly speaking, an artist does not have to tour when they do have a new album. It's kind of a quasi-argument at best that it helps with the sales as if an album was selling before the artist went out on tour, did the sales remain steady during the tour or did it receive a bump in sales because of the tour? The one thing I noticed when Billboard switched to the Soundscan process was how much lower the sales actually were. One would've expected that process to have matched the album sales claimed by Billboard prior to Soundscan. As for Linda, if she had recorded a new album after AFH, more than likely, there wouldn't have been pressure on her by the record company to tour in support of an album as she was past 60, her hitmaking days were behind her and her recent album sales had been in a steady decline. More likely than not, she would've been on a small label rather than a large or major label. The Verve label, which released "Hummin' to Myself," was not a large label by any stretch of the imagination. Neither was Vanguard, which had released "Adieu, False Heart." So, had Parkinsons not ended Linda's singing, I think another album or two could've been a possibility. Linda could still have been in semi-retirement under those conditions and it would still have been the truth. |
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Post by Dalton on May 18, 2015 0:33:19 GMT -5
I doubt she would have recorded anything that would be a losing proposition and not profitable even with a good voice. Besides the music business has changed so much that the music itself isn't the money maker, it is the concerts and paraphernalia. She was sick even before the Parkinson's diagnosis with back problems, thyroid problems, diabetes, apnea, etc. and even recording was a problem.
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Post by Dalton on May 18, 2015 0:35:28 GMT -5
I left out asthma, which itself didn't allow for proper breathing when singing. She was pretty much done with recording except for a guest appearance here and there as her health allowed her to be choosey and any events had to be major ones she believed in.
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Post by philly on May 18, 2015 15:38:52 GMT -5
I think she would have soldiered on, though to a diminishing degree. She did have prior back problems, but as she pointed out, the Parkinson's really did a number on her back, shrinking her spine, and I think because of losing spinal fluid. I think without Parkinson's she would have continued to sing in English beyond 2007, done that planned follow up album with Ann Savoy, and sung with Emmylou at Merlefest among other things. I also think Linda might have agreed to do one of those performing ocean cruises that Emmylou said she was going to try talking her into joining her on. Plus the fact that now her kids are grown, she could have brought 'aunt' Janet along to help her rather than stay with the kids. Even John Boylan's website was telling visitors that a 2010 tour schedule was going to be posted, before her retirement announcement. I think back to the 2000 Fred Galecki benefit that Linda and Emmylou performed at where she jokingly mentioned how, getting older, her hearing, vision, and memory were all going on her. I don't think it was aging so much as they are all symptoms of Parkinson's. She had just turned 54.
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Post by jay15206 on May 28, 2015 18:00:19 GMT -5
I wanted, before I died, to hear Linda do "The Way You Look Tonight." Also, there's a song written by a newer singer-songwriter, John Elliott, called "The National Anthem" I always imagined Linda singing. thehereafterishere.com/thehereafter |
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Post by Guest on May 29, 2015 1:27:16 GMT -5
I think we are headed to the world of computerized music where every song by any artist will become possible so don't give up your dream. Hopefully you will live long enough for that to happen.
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Post by Goldie on Jul 2, 2015 0:42:39 GMT -5
August 25, 2013 We Lose Linda Ronstadt’s Voice “You know, when you get old, in life, things get taken from you. I mean, that’s a part of life. But, you only learn that when you start losing stuff.” –Al Pacino, playing Coach Tony D’Amato in the movie Any Given Sunday. – – – – – – – linda-ronstadtThis news of Linda Ronstadt losing her voice due to Parkinson’s Disease seems like an especially sinister storyline. What a cruel machination of mother nature to rob a woman of her one defining gift while she still has life and clear cognitive factories to contemplate her fate. This isn’t any voice, or any woman. But Linda Ronstadt is smart and strong, and I’m sure she will come to peace with it. And we must come to peace with it, but how do we replace the Linda Ronstadt voice? With Miley Cyrus twerking up a wall and dropping immature drug references in her droning dance club songs? With Brittney Spears, and the images of her shaving her head to avoid a positive drug test in a custody battle, and making out with Madonna on the VMA Awards? With Taylor Swift, who arguably can’t even sing? It’s just one voice, but it’s one we can’t replace. None of the voices that lent their talent to defining the American culture as the preeminent showcase for artistry and talent are being replaced as the greats falter and disappear and their contemporaries are relegated to obscurity. Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio…indeed. Linda Ronstadt’s first solo album, Hand Sown…Home Grown, was arguably the first ever alt-country record. Like Gram Parsons, Ronstadt was responsible for showing legions of music fans that country music could be cool. Ronstadt’s 1987 collaboration with Dolly Parton and Emmylou Harris called Trio resulted in one of country’s most timeless records. She fell out of favor with some of the core of country fandom when her career moved in a more rock and pop direction. But Linda didn’t strike her widespread, universal appeal by being a genre-bending, attention-thirsty trend chaser, she did it by exploring and satiating the different influences she was exposed to as a child and young adult. She didn’t release a classic Mexican album at the height of her career because that is what the masses were clamoring for. It is because it is what she wanted to do, and lo and behold, the record had more mass appeal than expected despite the language barrier because Linda Ronstadt’s voice was so powerful. With the way social networking works today, when it comes to celebrity tragedies like Linda Ronstadt losing her voice, we all seem to be more wrapped up in the dissemination of the news than the deep contemplation of what it all actually means. We like to be the first of our friends to see the reports and post it on our respective feeds, we want to have the most poignant quip and get the most retweets and the most shares. It’s like in a moment of supposed empathy, we become somewhat selfish in this new paradigm of experiencing and sharing the grieving process in a public manner, in real time, for people we rarely know on a personal basis, with people we rarely know on a personal basis. It becomes just as much about us as it does the victim or the tragedy. Then again, we all are victims here. Linda Ronstadt didn’t just lose her voice, we all lost Linda Ronstadt’s voice. And the sounds of life will be one more shade towards grey henceforth. www.savingcountrymusic.com/we-lose-linda-ronstadts-voice |
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Post by Goldie on Jul 2, 2015 0:53:26 GMT -5
radioopensource.org/linda-ronstadt-riffing-on-the-best-ever-singers-and-songs/Linda Ronstadt: The Best Singers and Songs When I bend my ear to a singer’s performance, I often try to track who it was that influenced him or her. For instance, I can hear Nat “King” Cole in early Ray Charles, Lefty Frizzell in early Merle Haggard, Rosa Ponsell in Maria Callas, Fats Domino in Randy Newman. In a recent duet with Tony Bennett, the late Amy Winehouse was channeling Dinah Washington and Billie Holiday to great effect, yet she still sounded like Amy Winehouse… Linda Ronstadt in Simple Dreams: A Musical Memoir. This is fun. Linda Ronstadt, the multi-platinum queen of crossover singing — country and folk rock to Puccini’s “La Boheme” to Gilbert & Sullivan on Broadway to flamenco to Mexican wedding songs to the Great American Songbook and duets with Sinatra — throws out the line in her memoir Simple Dreams that the American popular song is the greatest gift this country ever presented to the world. So for a Coolidge Corner movie house packed with loving boomers, we’re just riffing here about singers and songs — the personal favorites, the masterpieces, the ones we called “pop” and “love songs” that may last as long as Schubert and Brahms. It is touching to hear this modest star say that she was never competitive, didn’t chase hits, but realized at midlife that she’d always aspired to raise the best material she could find to the distinction of “art songs.” So, doubtless, did Frank Sinatra, Smokey Robinson, Rosemary Clooney, Marvin Gaye, Frank Loesser, Sarah Vaughan… Judgment takes a while, even among the principals — as in Ira Gershwin’s famous line that “we never knew how good our songs were until I heard Ella Fitzgerald sing them.” But Linda Ronstadt was a sport when I asked: could we close with a fast baker’s dozen of pearls in the pop music of our times — songs we could send to Mars to show what’s possible. 13. Someone to Watch over Me, from the Gershwins, Ella Fitzgerald and Nelson Riddle. 12. Little Girl Blue, from Rodgers and Hart, Janis Joplin and Nina Simone. 11. Billy Strayhorn’s Lush Life, the song Sinatra couldn’t handle but Johnny Hartman and John Coltrane immortalized. 10. What’s New? by Bob Haggart and Johnny Burke. This is the Linda Ronstadt version with Nelson Riddle. And then there’s Coltrane. 9. The Londonderry Air, the melody of “Danny Boy,” which my mother sang every day of our young lives to the words: “Would God I Were the Tender Apple Blossom.” “The most beautiful melody ever,” as Linda said, but it’s Irish! at least till Ben Webster found it and wouldn’t let it go. 8. George and Ira Gershwin’s “Embraceable You,” the Sarah Vaughan version with Clifford Brown and Roy Haynes. 7. A Frank Loesser threesome: Marlon Brando singing “I’ll Know When My Love Comes Along” in the movie Guys and Dolls. “Never never will I marry,” a Linda choice. Betty Carter and Ray Charles singing “Baby It’s Cold Outside,” my pick, and “one of my favorites of all time ever, ever, ever,” Linda said. 6. Al Hibbler singing Duke Ellington’s “Do Nothing till you hear from Me.” 5. “Famous Blue Raincoat,” Jennifer Warnes singing Leonard Cohen’s song. 4. Estrella Morente, singing “En el alto del cerro de palomares.” 3. Lola Bertran singing Paloma Negra. 2. Trio Calavera, singing “almost anything.” 1. Marvin Gaye singing “What’s going On?” “O my God, I kissed Marvin Gaye one night… He was vocalist extraordinaire,” Linda said, at the crossroads of jazz, R’n’B and pop. “And he was a good kisser. No question, this is an art song!” radioopensource.org/linda-ronstadt-riffing-on-the-best-ever-singers-and-songs/
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Post by prisonerindisguise on Feb 22, 2022 2:20:24 GMT -5
I was thinking earlier today about how Dolly Parton's career and sales really picked up again after the mid-2000s and was wondering if Linda would've received the same jolt to her career if she'd continued making music and had remained healthy. I personally think Hummin' To Myself and Adieu False Heart would've been different albums if she'd had a stronger voice (you know what I mean. I liked her voice on those albums) and that she likely would've continued touring as vigorously as she did prior to developing Hashimoto's. I think she probably would've experienced some sort of decline in her voice with age that would have led to her still retiring from her own dissatisfaction, just years after she actually did retire. How do you think it'd have gone for her?
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Post by rick on Feb 22, 2022 2:55:52 GMT -5
I was thinking earlier today about how Dolly Parton's career and sales really picked up again after the mid-2000s and was wondering if Linda would've received the same jolt to her career if she'd continued making music and had remained healthy. I personally think Hummin' To Myself and Adieu False Heart would've been different albums if she'd had a stronger voice (you know what I mean. I liked her voice on those albums) and that she likely would've continued touring as vigorously as she did prior to developing Hashimoto's. I think she probably would've experienced some sort of decline in her voice with age that would have led to her still retiring from her own dissatisfaction, just years after she actually did retire. How do you think it'd have gone for her? Prisoner, I think Linda had a lot of songs she still wanted to record/sing before she hung it up. I imagine there would have been another standards album and likely another album with Ann Savoy. It seems she probably would have wanted to do at least part or all of an album in Spanish. Not sure if she would have wanted to make many public performances. There was also talk of a Jimmy Webb album. |
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Post by guest on Feb 22, 2022 4:58:24 GMT -5
I think she'll sing, one more time, one song, like a lullabye, and i think it will be beautiful. she and brian on 'adios', something like that
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Post by eddiejinnj on Feb 22, 2022 6:16:02 GMT -5
That would be great as long as Linda was having fun doing it. eddiejinfl
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2022 8:07:31 GMT -5
Joni Mitchell retrod and refined some of her earlier tracks with modern equipment as she disliked the originals. I can imagine Linda maybe doing similar, sitting happily in a studio fixing some of her own earlier songs, to her satisfaction.
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