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Post by sliderocker on Jan 24, 2015 17:56:26 GMT -5
I thought I had read an interview Linda had where she had mentioned her dad had been cremated and his ashes being scattered over the land where their ranch had been. But, just out of curiosity last night, I looked her dad up on Find a Grave, and the information there indicates Linda's parents are both buried in unmarked graves in Holy Hope Cemetery and Mausoleum in Tuscon. Now, I realize cremated remains can be buried in cemeteries - had a friend who cremated when he passed and his ashes are buried in a cemetery - but until coming across that last night, it didn't mention anything about either of Linda's parents being cremated before being buried, so I'm kind of wondering what did take place? Here's the findagrave link: findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=ronstadt&GSfn=gilbert&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=96853420&df=all&Btw, there are entries for Linda's mother, grandparents, aunts and uncles on her dad's side. There are none on her mom's side but it does provide a little info about Linda's family. |
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Post by Linda B on Jan 24, 2015 18:55:21 GMT -5
I thought I had read an interview Linda had where she had mentioned her dad had been cremated and his ashes being scattered over the land where their ranch had been. But, just out of curiosity last night, I looked her dad up on Find a Grave, and the information there indicates Linda's parents are both buried in unmarked graves in Holy Hope Cemetery and Mausoleum in Tuscon. Now, I realize cremated remains can be buried in cemeteries - had a friend who cremated when he passed and his ashes are buried in a cemetery - but until coming across that last night, it didn't mention anything about either of Linda's parents being cremated before being buried, so I'm kind of wondering what did take place? Here's the findagrave link: http:// findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi? page=gr&GSln=ronstadt&GSfn=gilbert&GSbyr el=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=96853420& df=all& Btw, there are entries for Linda's mother, grandparents, aunts and uncles on her dad's side. There are none on her mom's side but it does provide a little info about Linda's family. Okay. You win for the oddest question I have ever seen on this blog. Lol What happened to questions like I wonder what her favorite author is or does she have a dog. |
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 24, 2015 20:43:14 GMT -5
Okay. You win for the oddest question I have ever seen on this blog. Lol What happened to questions like I wonder what her favorite author is or does she have a dog. Ok, what do I win? LOL! I'll admit it's a rather odd question to be asking but I do remember Linda saying in an interview her father's ashes had been scattered over the area of the Sonoran desert where their ranch home had been. And then I find that information on him indicating he and his wife are buried at the cemetery in question in unmarked graves. And it got me to wondering if Linda's parents are buried in the cemetery, could it be something she didn't want others knowing about, who might hang around just to watch for her paying a visit? Most fans would respect her privacy on matters like that, but then there may be others who would take advantage to try and say hello or get an autograph. Also, don't forget there are fans who like a souvenir and wouldn't be above taking grave markers or head stones as their souvenir. And in this day and age of youtube, there could be some who would film such an encounter and post it on youtube. I watched one video by a 'fan' filming one of his favorite performers, which was very pathetic and embarrassing as he tried to get the performer to talk to him, and wasn't above whining that he had traveled more than a thousand miles just to see, hear and talk to that performer. The fan - a grown man - acted more like a ten year old kid. I could see where Linda might have said her dad was cremated to throw fans off track, allowing her the privacy she needs when visiting her parents' grave. |
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Post by Goldie on Jan 24, 2015 21:05:03 GMT -5
That means his ashes were scattered around Tucson's Ronstadt Transit Center (which stands on that property) and may have ended up on a bus to New York, and California, and Phoenix, and ....
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 24, 2015 23:09:57 GMT -5
That means his ashes were scattered around Tucson's Ronstadt Transit Center (which stands on that property) and may have ended up on a bus to New York, and California, and Phoenix, and .... Maybe, but the impression I got is that his ashes were scattered on a part of the land that was still rural in nature. Or maybe it was more rural in 1995 when he passed than what it is now? |
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Post by Robert Morse on Jan 25, 2015 0:26:52 GMT -5
Odd is one word for it......
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Post by Goldie on Jan 25, 2015 5:45:18 GMT -5
I guess the transit center is where the hardware store was. I think the family sold the family home on Prince Road where that huge old tree was cut down. Maybe an apartment complex went there? Looks to be lots of other info on the geneology sites if you have a membership.
Tucson Citizen
Ronstadt patriarch helped shape city
by Daniel Buckley on Jun 19, 1995, under News
NOTE: OBITUARY; PHOTO
Retired Tucson businessman Gilbert Ronstadt, father of singer Linda and ex-Tucson police chief Peter, dies at home of heart failure while surrounded by family and friends.
Tucson native Gilbert Ronstadt, patriarch of the well-known family that includes singer Linda and former Tucson police chief Peter, died Saturday, just three days after celebrating his 84th birthday.
For his birthday celebration, a large group gathered around him and sang his favorite songs.
He died surrounded by family and friends in his room, which looks out over his pond, plants, birds and other animals in the backyard of his longtime home off Prince Road.
Mr. Ronstadt died of heart failure, said his son, Peter.
Besides running the family hardware store, now the site of the Ronstadt Transit Center, Mr. Ronstadt helped shaped modern Tucson and was the catalyst for the rebirth of mariachi music.
Mr. Ronstadt is well-known as the inspiration behind daughter Linda’s highly successful “Canciones de mi Padre’ recordings – two collections of the favorite mariachi classics she grew up hearing her father sing and play.
Peter Ronstadt, Tucson’s former police chief, recalled last week’s birthday party: “We ended up with “Volver, Volver.’
“With Daddy’s voice still coming through, as clear as it always was,’ added daughter Gretchen “Suzy’ Ronstadt Jacome. “Linda said he always did have the best voice in the family.’
But he left it up to his children to finish the song.
“I could see him gathering strength from that music,’ said Linda. “He’d always carry the big chorus at the end (of `Volver’), and really sing out. This time he left it for us to sing the big finish.
“It occurred to me that we were the big voices now, that we had received the information and were ready to carry on that tradition.’
Mr. Ronstadt had joined his daughter Linda in duets at several of the Tucson International Mariachi conferences.
And in 1994, the great Mexican singer Lola Beltrán coaxed Mr. Ronstadt to the edge of the stage to give him the serape she had worn.
“He could have been a professional entertainer,’ said longtime friend Lalo Guerrero, speaking by phone from his home in Palm Springs, Calif. “He had a big, beautiful voice, though he was always very shy about himself. But music was his life, really.’
He was born into it. The son of Federico Ronstadt, the founder of Tucson’s first municipal orchestra (the Club Filarmonico), Mr. Ronstadt grew up in a home filled with song.
His older sister, Luisa Espinel, was a renowned singer and collector of folk songs. She bound her field collections in a volume titled, “Canciones de mi Padre’ – a title borrowed by Linda for her album.
In his college days at the University of Arizona, Ronstadt sang with a megaphone at the Rialto Theater, and had a half-hour show on a local radio station singing sentimental songs of the day.
He performed in clubs, too, and was offered a spot singing professionally in San Francisco. But he turned that down to stay and help with the family’s business, Ronstadt Hardware, located where Ronstadt Transit Center now is.
He ran the business until his retirement in 1983. His wife, Ruthmary Ronstadt, had died the year before.
But while he was in business, “You couldn’t think of buying from anyone else,’ said longtime Tucsonan Henriqueta DeMeester. “You always got personalized attention.’
After serving several years in the army during World War II, Mr. Ronstadt focused on Tucson’s growing needs.
He chaired the Post War Planning Committee, charting Tucson’s early expansion in the late 1940s and early ’50s.
During that period, he also headed the Sanitary District general committee, helping establish Tucson’s first sewage and waste treatment facilities at a critical time.
Mr. Ronstadt took the helm of the Neighborhood Associations Council, and pioneered efforts to expand Tucson’s trading ties with its Mexican neighbors as far south as Hermosillo, Son.
In the ’60s and ’70s, Mr. Ronstadt chaired the Chamber of Commerce’s Caballeros Del Sol and served on the boards of the Chamber of Commerce, the Tucson-Mexico International Exchange Commission, the Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum, Tucson Festival Society, Arizona Historical Society, and the Tucson Trade Bureau.
He also spearheaded early efforts to restore and revitalize downtown, to preserve the Spanish missions of Sonora on both sides of the border and to keep Tucson’s cultural heritage alive.
In 1991, he was awarded the Chamber of Commerce’s Founder’s Award for his long-term service in shaping the community.
“He was a leader in almost every movement,’ said Mr. Ronstadt’s longtime friend and business associate, Cele Peterson. “He was so quiet, but he was sort of a peacemaker when troubles came up.
“He had a love of the old – Mexican and American. He was such a great person and had such a sense of humor.’
Gilbert Ronstadt was a visual artist as well as a musical artist. Several of his watercolors were used in the booklet accompanying Linda Ronstadt’s “ Mas Canciones’ album. He worked in silver and copper as well, and had a fondness for building incredibly detailed miniatures.
In addition to children Gretchen Ronstadt Jàcome, Peter, Michael and Linda Ronstadt, Mr. Ronstadt is survived by his brother, Edward; beloved companion Jeanne Ure; and grandchildren Erin Gilmore, Federico Jàcome, and Philip, Melinda, Michael, Peter, Mary and Carlos Ronstadt.
Visitation will be tomorrow from 6 to 9 p.m. at Tucson Mortuary’s South Chapel, 240 S. Stone Ave., with a rosary recited at 7. A memorial Mass will be offered Wednesday at 9:30 a.m. at Ss. Peter & Paul Church, 1946 E. Lee St.
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Post by Dianna on Jan 25, 2015 21:31:02 GMT -5
That means his ashes were scattered around Tucson's Ronstadt Transit Center (which stands on that property) and may have ended up on a bus to New York, and California, and Phoenix, and .... Oh God. lol |
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Post by MokyWI on Jan 25, 2015 22:03:41 GMT -5
Ditto Dianna!
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Post by moe on Jan 25, 2015 22:24:56 GMT -5
Dianna-at the risk of sounding obsessed with your avatars and totally off subject-what are the little specs (at least that is how I perceive them) dancing around Linda's picture?
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Post by Linda B on Jan 26, 2015 12:32:21 GMT -5
Okay, but I still didn't get an answer, Who is her favorite author and does she have a dog  I would love to see how hard LR would laugh at our crazy questions. OMG, what if she does read this blog. lol |
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Post by PoP80 on Jan 26, 2015 13:05:39 GMT -5
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Post by Linda B on Jan 26, 2015 13:36:42 GMT -5
Indeed. You guys are the craziest, most endearing group of people I have had the pleasure of blogging with.
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Post by erik on Jan 26, 2015 18:35:31 GMT -5
Quote by Linda B:
We have our moments.....
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Post by Dianna on Jan 26, 2015 19:41:45 GMT -5
Dianna-at the risk of sounding obsessed with your avatars and totally off subject-what are the little specs (at least that is how I perceive them) dancing around Linda's picture? I'm not sure what those flashing things are. They look like virtual gifts. Maybe I should check it out.. |
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Post by PoP80 on Jan 26, 2015 21:21:51 GMT -5
I'm not sure what those flashing things are. They look like virtual gifts. Maybe I should check it out.. Maybe they're Gilbert's ashes being scattered about?  |
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 26, 2015 22:11:03 GMT -5
Okay, but I still didn't get an answer, Who is her favorite author and does she have a dog I would love to see how hard LR would laugh at our crazy questions. OMG, what if she does read this blog. lol If Linda is here, she has an open invitation to chat with me on any subject of her choosing. I'd love to have an opportunity like that. But, in all honesty, I don't think she's here or knows about this fan site about her. I've known of other singers who have chatted with their fans, and sometimes the fans knew it and sometimes they didn't. In most instances, a performer doesn't want you to know you are talking to them. One reason is a privacy concern but the other is if you know you are talking with a celebrity, would you be more inclined to be like a gushy fan who could make the performer feel embarrassed? Whereas if you don't know you are talking with a celebrity, you're more likely to be yourself around them and then they are more likely to enjoy talking to you. |
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Post by Linda B on Jan 27, 2015 15:06:24 GMT -5
I'm not sure what those flashing things are. They look like virtual gifts. Maybe I should check it out.. Maybe they're Gilbert's ashes being scattered about? Move over Sliderocker , we have another ghoul. Lol |
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Post by erik on Jan 27, 2015 18:46:20 GMT -5
Quote by Linda B:
Stranger and more ghoulish things have been said about Elvis and Michael Jackson, I can assure you of that.
And even though the Ronstadts were perhaps Tucson's most celebrated family even before Linda herself became well-known, it's still a nice ironic touch for the city's main transit center to have the name it has, given how much time Linda spent on tour buses in her career.
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Post by linda on Jan 28, 2015 17:07:44 GMT -5
Quote by Linda B: Stranger and more ghoulish things have been said about Elvis and Michael Jackson, I can assure you of that. And even though the Ronstadts were perhaps Tucson's most celebrated family even before Linda herself became well-known, it's still a nice ironic touch for the city's main transit center to have the name it has, given how much time Linda spent on tour buses in her career. I think you are right about that, lol. I do think that the Ronstadt name was quite prevalent and still is in the Tucson area before anyone had heard of Linda. It does make you realize that she came from good stock, as they say. |
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Post by erik on Jan 28, 2015 18:23:14 GMT -5
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And I think the land itself formed Linda's character in a lot of ways as well, as she detailed in the first chapter of her memoir, with its attendant desert predators (scorpions; tarantulas; rattlesnakes); the cacti; the extreme heat of summer; and the annual summer monsoons that come in July and August. I think all of that made her a very resilient person when she entered such a potentially predatory place as the music industry in the mid-1960s.
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Post by linda on Jan 29, 2015 11:53:10 GMT -5
Quote by linda: And I think the land itself formed Linda's character in a lot of ways as well, as she detailed in the first chapter of her memoir, with its attendant desert predators (scorpions; tarantulas; rattlesnakes); the cacti; the extreme heat of summer; and the annual summer monsoons that come in July and August. I think all of that made her a very resilient person when she entered such a potentially predatory place as the music industry in the mid-1960s. Erik: I completely agree with you. Predatory is the perfect word choice. I thought that when I read her book. I believe that the character of people is formed from the environment (literally and figuratively ) as well as their ethic/moral upbringing. The last part wasn't meant as a religious hint. I always thought she was a well rounded, decent person, with a hell of alot of talent. By the way, I am formerly " Linda B" in previous posts. |
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Post by erik on Jan 29, 2015 19:15:50 GMT -5
Quote by linda:
And I think it helps that she was always very close to her family even after she had left in 1965 to go to Los Angeles. Those close family ties, plus her memories of growing up and appreciating what was very much a semi-rural life was what I feel informs a lot of the way she approaches certainly the more roots-oriented aspects of her music (country; folk; blues; bluegrass; rock; the Mexican influences). Those things I don't think ever left her, even after she had become extremely popular from the mid-1970s on.
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Post by linda on Jan 29, 2015 19:41:14 GMT -5
Quote by linda: And I think it helps that she was always very close to her family even after she had left in 1965 to go to Los Angeles. Those close family ties, plus her memories of growing up and appreciating what was very much a semi-rural life was what I feel informs a lot of the way she approaches certainly the more roots-oriented aspects of her music (country; folk; blues; bluegrass; rock; the Mexican influences). Those things I don't think ever left her, even after she had become extremely popular from the mid-1970s on. Agreed. What I feel gives her even more credit is the fact that she has kept her life in check after all she has accomplished in her life and career. |
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Post by erik on May 3, 2021 8:49:23 GMT -5
Quote by heartbreaker: As I understand it, her niece Mindy is still keeping her aunt's country, rock, and Mexicana roots alive in a tribute band (The Tributaries, I think the name is) in Tucson; while her second cousin Britt divides her time between Arizona and Nashville. Britt, in fact, has worked with Alice Wallace, an Americana-type singer/songwriter who recently covered Linda's 1970 classic "Long Long Time":  |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 13:04:18 GMT -5
I expect the Ronstadt family know where or what. Linda's grandfather Fred & grandmother have humble grave markers. But there is the transit building named in honour of the family. I feel Linda may wish to be remembered for her own, and as part of her family's collective contribution to people's welfare, musically and supportively.
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Post by RobGNYC on May 8, 2021 14:43:42 GMT -5
  I did not know that Linda's cousin Suzy, was the ex-girlfriend & inspiration of Jimmy Webb for many of his heartbreak songs, wow! Yes, including "Where's the Playground Susie?," which Linda has said is one that she wanted to record (as "Where's the Playground Baby"). Bobbie Gentry covered it as "Where's the Playground Johnny." |
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Post by Patti on Feb 3, 2024 17:31:39 GMT -5
That means his ashes were scattered around Tucson's Ronstadt Transit Center (which stands on that property) and may have ended up on a bus to New York, and California, and Phoenix, and .... Maybe, but the impression I got is that his ashes were scattered on a part of the land that was still rural in nature. Or maybe it was more rural in 1995 when he passed than what it is now? Ronstadt Transit Center in Downtown Tucson was around where Ronstadt hardware was, not their a rural ranch. |
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I would love to see how hard LR would laugh at our crazy questions. OMG, what if she does read this blog. lol
