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Post by Linda on Sept 22, 2014 8:57:26 GMT -5
I was reading about the latest in lack of taste by Miley Cyrus regarding the display with the Mexican flag last week. That is a slap in the face for any Mexican-American and for anyone who actually was there and had to watch it . I am not a Mexican-American and I was offended. I know that Linda is a true activist for many, but , damn that Cyrus is a disappointment. I wonder what Linda may think of her now. |
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Post by erik on Sept 22, 2014 8:59:25 GMT -5
I'd have to think that she'd come after Ms. Cyrus with a hatchet, this even though Miley's godmother is a good friend of Linda's, Dolly Parton (GASP!!!)
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Post by jay15206 on Sept 22, 2014 9:06:33 GMT -5
a good friend of Linda's, Dolly Parton I thought they weren't such good friends as a result of Dolly's cavalier attitude towards recording Trio II. N'est-ce pas? |
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Post by erik on Sept 22, 2014 9:16:50 GMT -5
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I think they ironed out that disagreement by the time of Trio II's actual release in 1999. But even so, I think Linda would be furious at Miley for doing it, not just to the Mexican flag, but also to the American one as well. I know I would. I think she's a spoiled little b**ch!
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Post by jay15206 on Sept 22, 2014 10:25:30 GMT -5
Quote by jay15206: I think they ironed out that disagreement by the time of Trio II's actual release in 1999. But even so, I think Linda would be furious at Miley for doing it, not just to the Mexican flag, but also to the American one as well. I know I would. I think she's a spoiled little b**ch! Miley Cyrus is someone I have no problem ignoring. I didn't know about the Mexican flag business, and thank you, but I don't wish to know any more. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 10:44:47 GMT -5
Agreed; outlandish stunts are a poor substitute for talent...
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Post by sliderocker on Sept 22, 2014 11:38:50 GMT -5
Agreed; outlandish stunts are a poor substitute for talent... It was in very bad taste and offensive, but look at all the publicity and talk her stunt is generating. More than the act deserves. Cyrus probably didn't realize it would turn into as big a brouhaha as it did but all things considered, Mexico has bigger problems to deal with than an offensive incident with their flag, and they have overlooked bigger crimes by some of their own citizens. A month, a year from now, this incident won't even be remembered by most and any conviction by Mexico would probably be a symbolic one at best if Cyrus stays out of Mexico. But even so, the penalties for desecration of the Mexican flag aren't all that severe, $1200 and 36 hours in jail. The best penalty for this stunt would've been to ignored it and let the story died a quick death. As you rightly note, outlandish stunts are a poor substitute for talent. As for what Linda thinks, she probably would be disappointed in Cyrus but I don't know if such disappointment would lead to anything further on her part beyond maybe making a comment about it, if that. Of course, there are some in the news media who wouldn't mind milking the story for what it's worth and egging things on, which would be all the more reason to let the story die. |
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Post by Linda on Sept 22, 2014 13:03:10 GMT -5
Agreed; outlandish stunts are a poor substitute for talent... Well said. |
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Post by Snidely on Sept 22, 2014 15:18:38 GMT -5
She seems to have an obsession with sex, specifically anal sex. She needs to satisfy those urges offstage as they are in bad taste. In most parts of this country and probably others as well you could be fined and arrested just by exposing life like sex toys.
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Post by Dianna on Sept 22, 2014 15:43:47 GMT -5
I was reading about the latest in lack of taste by Miley Cyrus regarding the display with the Mexican flag last week. That is a slap in the face for any Mexican-American and for anyone who actually was there and had to watch it . I am not a Mexican-American and I was offended. I know that Linda is a true activist for many, but , damn that Cyrus is a disappointment. I wonder what Linda may think of her now. Patriotic wise I don't feel it's a slap in the face to mexican americans as it would be too the people of mexico..we are after all americans.. at least for me it wasn't. I was more embarrassed for miley cyrus, that she is a reflection of us, american people, and once again, how stupid and disrespectful we as americans look. |
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Post by erik on Sept 22, 2014 17:22:20 GMT -5
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That's probably the best way of looking at this whole thing. She is an embarrassment overall, of that I don't think there is a whole lot of dispute.
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Post by fabtastique on Sept 25, 2014 2:58:03 GMT -5
she is a stupid girl resorting to shock tactics due to lack of talent .... really wish she would go away
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Post by sliderocker on Sept 25, 2014 17:16:25 GMT -5
she is a stupid girl resorting to shock tactics due to lack of talent .... really wish she would go away The same thing's been said about Madonna, her imitator, wanna-be-Madonna Lady Gaga, Alice Cooper, his imitator Marilyn Manson, Kiss, David Bowie, et al. It's all been done before shock theatrics. Madonna caught flack in her time. So did Cooper and Bowie. And Kiss scared the beejesus out of some people. And the same sentiment was always expressed, that being they wished they would go away, which as hitmakers they eventually did but many are still around. Cyrus will, I think, be extremely embarrassed when she gets older and her older self looks at her younger self and wonders what the hell was she thinking? If anything, I think some of the artists who shocked with their theatrics should've kept that up as it was what made them successful. When they became part of the pop-rock establishment and stopped doing it, people lost interest in them despite what talent they had. And I'm sure Miley's shock theatrics is a reaction to her wholesome clean Disney image as "Hannah Montana." HM was not who she was and she may be trying to get away from that image, which if that's the case, she is succeeding. |
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Post by erik on Sept 25, 2014 18:17:09 GMT -5
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True, and this whole business of twerking, etc., is a whole world apart, to put it quite mildly, from her Hannah Montana image. But this is truly extreme of her. Really, she's as fruity as a nutcake (sic) (LOL).
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Post by sliderocker on Sept 25, 2014 19:19:45 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker: True, and this whole business of twerking, etc., is a whole world apart, to put it quite mildly, from her Hannah Montana image. But this is truly extreme of her. Really, she's as fruity as a nutcake (sic) (LOL). It's worlds apart from Miley's "Hannah Montana" image and Cyrus is as nutty as a fruitcake, but all things considered, I thought being "spanked with the Mexican flag" (the description I saw in the story on the brouhaha) was a fairly lame stunt with the reaction by the Mexican government more overblown than the story warranted. Jim Morrison must be laughing his a** off, wherever he's at and feeling somewhat incredulous over how people got so worked up over the issue |
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Post by fabtastique on Sept 26, 2014 6:34:08 GMT -5
I see Madonna and Gaga differently ... There is an underlying talent with them, whereas I don't see that with MC
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Post by erik on Sept 26, 2014 8:33:42 GMT -5
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I would agree. The thing, is though, that I am not sure their talents have much of anything to do with making great music so much as they do with shocking people with sex to get attention.
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Post by sliderocker on Sept 26, 2014 15:23:55 GMT -5
I see Madonna and Gaga differently ... There is an underlying talent with them, whereas I don't see that with MC Madonna and Lady Gaga have talent but by resorting to stunts, they undermined their talent, much in the way Cyrus is doing now. Madonna didn't really need to resort to the shock theatrics but such stunts are guanteed coverage by the news media. And Lady Gaga has been accused of ripping off what Madonna did, which is probably true (I don't know as I don't follow Gaga musically or what she does outside of music) and Cyrus will probably come in for the same criticism. But, people can sometimes be totally off the mark about a performer. I remember quite a few naysayers in the 80s saying Madonna had no talent, which was why she resorted to stunts. She proved them wrong. Entertainment history is full of naysayers who said certain entertainers in all genres had no talent and wouldn't last, only to be proved wrong time and time again. I won't say Cyrus is talentless anymore than I would Madonna or Gaga are talentless but as a performer, she maybe needs to cut back or stop altogether with the stunts and show what she's capable of as a performer. But, again, I see her stunts as maybe a need to break away and grow up from her Disney/ "Hannah Montana" image, a need to remind people she's a young woman now and no longer a child actor. |
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Post by erik on Sept 26, 2014 15:52:15 GMT -5
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It then begs the question of just how long she feels she has to keep at this. She still isn't being taken seriously in any way, shape, or form as a woman. Her act, in my opinion is, almost straight out of...how shall I put it...the Pussycat Theatre.
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Post by sliderocker on Sept 26, 2014 16:27:01 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker: It then begs the question of just how long she feels she has to keep at this. She still isn't being taken seriously in any way, shape, or form as a woman. Her act, in my opinion is, almost straight out of...how shall I put it...the Pussycat Theatre. Cyrus is still incredibly young - almost 22 years old. My guess would be she's getting some very bad career advice from her manager. Her focus should be on making recordings and/or taking on movie and/or tv roles. But, it may be here that Hollywood will not allow her to grow up. That's a difference between her and Madonna and Lady Gaga. Madonna and Gaga did not start out in their teens and have success in their teens. It's tougher for a child star to break out of that mold because either Hollywood doesn't want you as an adult or the public loses interest in you once you're no longer a kid. Or it's both. The public had no interest in Tiffany or Debbie Gibson once they were no longer kids. Tiffany actually had it worse as she lost favor with the public while still a teen and she couldn't do anything to get her career relaunched. As a songwriter, Gibson tried her hand at writing more adult-oriented songs but again, the public would have none of it. The only thing the public wanted was more "Only In My Dreams" and "Lost In Your Eyes." They didn't want "Mind*Body*Soul." Gibson is still an incredible talent and someone who should've had and deserved dozens of hit records but once she grew up, that was it. Don't call us, we won't call you. But, as for Cyrus, her management really should look at moving her away from the stunts as staying with it will likely be fatal to her career. |
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