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Post by fabtastique on Aug 2, 2014 14:39:25 GMT -5
I was watching a film tonight, Kristen Wiig in "Girl Most Likely" from 2012 - it has a brief but very powerful snippet of Linda singing "I Just Don't Know a What To Do With Myself" .... First time I've heard this in a film - really pleased to see this!
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Post by eddiejinnj on Aug 2, 2014 17:53:08 GMT -5
cool to hear!!! that is a powerhouse song. eddiejinnj
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Post by Richard W on Aug 3, 2014 9:01:50 GMT -5
Love the vocal homage to Dusty at the very end of that song.
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Post by Richard W on Aug 3, 2014 13:35:28 GMT -5
Including Linda's version of that song is a nice acknowledgment of some of the spectacular music she made in the '90s, music that, even considering all of the recent Linda-related articles and interviews, seems to always get overlooked.
I mean, anyone else who put out the albums "Winter Light", "Feels Like Home" and "We Ran" would certainly have three acknowledged spectacular feathers in their hats, but for some reason these three albums are treated as footnotes, of they're given any treatment at all. (To say nothing of her role as producer and Dennis James's glass album.)
As we all know, Linda's career did not end in the '80s. I wish everyone else would acknowledge that.
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Post by fabtastique on Aug 3, 2014 14:59:26 GMT -5
Her 90s albums were great.
Winter Light should have been a huge album, it's still a mystery to me why it was so universally ignored by the record buying public?
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Post by erik on Aug 3, 2014 19:49:54 GMT -5
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As much as I like Linda, which is as much as anybody else here, there are times when I have to be honest, even if it means stepping on people's toes. At least prior to when her thyroid condition felled her in 1996-97, I honestly believe, even though it pains me to say it, that some of the blame for Winter Light and Feels Like Home underperforming in terms of record sales must be placed at Linda's own feet, partly because she did a bare minimum of promotion for either album, and also partly because of the four-year gap between the release of Cry Like A Rainstorm in the fall of 1989 and the release of Winter Light in the fall of 1993 that was filled by two Spanish language albums (Mas Canciones; Frenesi) that really didn't sell especially well. People here can disagree with my assessment, but at least I am making an honest assessment, and not sugarcoating.
At the same time, though, I have always loved Winter Light and We Ran; and, even though I find it to be a problematic album at times, Feels Like Home is much better than most of the half-a**sed pop (and country) from that same time frame.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 20:06:03 GMT -5
Linda was likely busy with her young children at the time, as well as her thyroid issue. There was also that unpleasant issue with the infamous stalker around that time...
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Post by Moon on Aug 3, 2014 21:07:57 GMT -5
I have been re-discovering Linda R music as of late and never realized how wonderfull her 90's recordings are until I did a "Linda R Youtube binge". For that matter, I didnt even know she did recording in the 90's until I you tube binged. Its been fun discovering a whole new part of her music repertoire and its is amazing these recordings were not huge sellers!!!
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Post by ausfan2 on Aug 3, 2014 22:17:34 GMT -5
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Post by fabtastique on Aug 4, 2014 0:09:32 GMT -5
Is the public that fickle? When I bought CdmP, Mas Canciones and Frenesi I'd never listened to any music like that ... let alone bought any! Surely a return to classic pop that was showcased on a Winter Light would have been heralded and celebrated?
Anyone I play that album to absolutely loves it.
I'm glad IJDKWTDWM was picked up for this soundtrack - it's an amazing vocal by Linda!
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Post by eddiejinnj on Aug 4, 2014 7:49:31 GMT -5
the 4 yr gap between pop albums is not a long time especially nowadays. the 90's is I believe when artists started doing that. plus there was no recording gaps for linda she just did 2 other albums that imo are great. plus, has anybody ever thought that why would she think (though she says sales commercial considerations are not that important to her) that the 2 90's latin albums would not do well. canciones was an enormous success. plus then she had cry which was huge. I have disagreed re: the promotion stuff re: the 90's albums. she was on all the shows and though I hate to say it because it nauseates me, many saw a different Linda (not boy scout Linda). I actually couldn't believe I heard her in a pretty long interview play clips promo on z100 in nyc for Winter Light. the station ru paul was on for awhile I believe. they were definitely a top 40 pop/rock/dance station. Winter Light is an art album that is very sophisticated and was hard for her to get it mainstreamed as far as singles. she did do ok on the adult contemporary charts. she did album signings in person for dedicated. I believe that was good promotion on a grass roots get out there with the fans level. eddiejinnj
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Post by Richard W on Aug 4, 2014 8:38:42 GMT -5
I agree with some of what has been said about Linda promoting (or not) her '90s albums, but that still doesn't alter the fact that over a decade later, the people writing about her and interviewing her are evidently unaware of those recordings. And while I, too, have issues with Feels Like Home while still admiring it, something like Winter Light is a brilliant album that you would almost have to turn a blind eye to not to in order to ignore it.
Besides the indifference to Winter Light, what's also puzzled me is how Canciones was such a sensation (especially in Latin markets) but Mas Canciones was a comparative commercial dud. In my book, Mas Canciones contains some of Linda's most stunning Latin vocals. Why it didn't follow Canciones to commercial success is a head-scratcher.
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Post by erik on Aug 4, 2014 9:23:37 GMT -5
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In terms of Canciones De Mi Padre doing so well, and Mas Canciones not doing nearly so, I can only speculate that audiences were expecting another pop album from Linda (and this was also the same time [late 1991] that she had out "Dreams To Dream" from AN AMERICAN TAIL: FIEVEL GOES WEST); and then when that wasn't what they got, they bolted, and left whatever album sales Mas Canciones got to the Latin music audience. Frenesi did, if anything, even worse in terms of record sales (it may have been a big seller with Latin audiences, but overall it was on the Billboard Top 200 album for a single week, peaking at a lowly #192).
As for those write about and interview her, and are so unaware of what she did in the 1990s, I'd point out that Linda herself doesn't even mention Winter Light, Feels Like Home, or We Ran even once in her own memoir. Again, some of that blame for the lack of attention for those albums must rest with Linda herself. Still, you'd think that somebody in the media would have done some more research into her 90s pop phase and asked her more about those albums.
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Post by Moon on Aug 4, 2014 12:10:46 GMT -5
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Post by Moon on Aug 4, 2014 12:16:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the links!!!! Will have fun with them. How did almost an entire decade of LR music go unnoticed!!!! I became a fan of LR when she recorded Whats New. After whats new i became more of a fan of her 70's work.
But the recordings of the 90`s just passed right me!!!
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Post by fabtastique on Aug 4, 2014 13:50:32 GMT -5
Frenesi is such a great album ... I play it at dinner parties etc, I even played a few tracks at a Latin club late one night - they went down really well, people danced!
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Post by Mr. Kaplansky on Aug 7, 2014 8:06:59 GMT -5
When Canciones De Mi Padre was released, I was disappointed after hearing it. I thought that it would have been better if she could have somehow sung the english lyrics for these songs with the same music accompaniment, but am not sure if that is possible. I only speak and understand english.
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Post by fabtastique on Aug 7, 2014 9:42:37 GMT -5
singing the songs in English would make the whole purpose of the album irrelevant .... I love all her Spanish albums, and speak virtually nothing of the language.
I think you can appreciate the music, the emotion and her voice without understanding the words - although I think all the CDs have lyrics in english in the booklets??
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Post by Richard W on Aug 7, 2014 10:32:14 GMT -5
The English lyrics are in the booklets, so understanding the songs doesn't take much effort -- beyond reading.
The songs were written in Spanish so the lyrics and melodies mesh in an organic way that they wouldn't if the lyrics were transcribed.
A (very) simple example is the English "merry Christmas" and the Spanish "felice Navidad." That extra Spanish syllable makes translating an English Christmas carol with those words into Spanish rather awkward. The same goes for the reverse.
Besides, what fabtastique said about singing the songs in English making the whole concept/purpose of the album irrelevant is perfectly true. These songs Linda's father sang were Spanish-language songs.
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Post by erik on Aug 7, 2014 14:03:15 GMT -5
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And it would sound awkward, it seems to me, to do these songs in English with the inherent Mariachi/ranchera instrumentation.
I know I've mentioned this before, but I always wished that she had done a concept album that evenly combined her Mexican music roots with the country and rock music she was known for--especially given the fact that several individual songs of hers over the years ("Lo Siento Mi Vida"; both English and Spanish versions of "Blue Bayou"; "Carmelita"; "Adonde Voy"; and "The Dreams Of The San Joaquin") did combine all three styles.
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Post by fabtastique on Aug 8, 2014 0:52:25 GMT -5
Yes I agree an album of "modern" pop or country/rock sounding tunes sung in Spanish would have been really interesting. I love Adonde Voy, another great powerful vocal
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Post by erik on Aug 8, 2014 8:36:49 GMT -5
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Actually, I was thinking of some of the songs being done in English and others in Spanish, with a combination of country, rock, and Mexican music instrumentation being featured. "Adonde Voy" is an example of such, but there is also her old band the Eagles' "It's Your World Now", which had woodwinds and Mariachi brass on it.
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