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Post by travis222 on Apr 15, 2014 13:35:47 GMT -5
When does the Billboard top 200 album chart come out? Looks like Linda may land in the top 10. First time in too many years. I wonder how many people will buy it thinking it`s a new collection? |
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Post by Richard W on Apr 15, 2014 14:44:37 GMT -5
I imagine for most people -- present company excluded -- many of the songs will be "new." When you consider the unreleased track, the three tracks from "Adieu False Heart" which didn't exactly burn up the charts, plus the non-Ronstadt-album duets with Sinatra and Middler, that's quite a few "new" songs for many people.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Apr 15, 2014 16:55:10 GMT -5
new partners waltz is also a non-Ronstadt album duet. so many songs would be new for very casual/new fans. eddiejinnj
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Post by travis222 on Apr 17, 2014 6:12:56 GMT -5
Well, the first numbers are out. Duets debuted at number 32 on the Billboard top 200 album chart. Not what I hoped for, but maybe word of mouth will help push it higher.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Apr 17, 2014 7:25:41 GMT -5
I think that is fantastic. wonder if it is on the country charts as well? I merged the 2 Billboard threads together. Was just lookin on the chart and there is a link to one of her Billboard articles about the rrhof below her entry. so there is some promo there and hey I hope it blazes up the chart. eddiejinnj
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Post by Richard W on Apr 17, 2014 7:59:04 GMT -5
Well, a Ronstadt album debuting in the top 40 in 2014 -- that to me is quite something, especially when you consider what positions her last several studio albums reached, let alone where they debuted.
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Post by fabtastique on Apr 17, 2014 8:39:11 GMT -5
actually thats quite amazing I think ....
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Post by erik on Apr 17, 2014 8:48:10 GMT -5
I know it isn't quite what we wanted, given the kind of incredible avalanche of good press she's had this month, but I like it enough. It bodes well.
And who knows? It may be the kind of renaissance we've been wanting for years.
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Post by charlotte on Apr 17, 2014 11:09:20 GMT -5
Just wonderful. The praise has been lavish really for a collection we know fairly well. Linda still has a limited digital presence - only us and facebook (which is maintained probably by Simon and Schuster or someone else), no twitter or whatever the folks are using, did not see any print ads. Even the deceased Johnny Cash has an official site but not our Linda - thus this is a terrific showing. Linda had her first hit 47 years ago, stepped as far away from celebrity as one could and so this strikes me as very satisfying.
Bravo, keep pushing for that live recording!
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Post by MokyWI on Apr 17, 2014 11:34:31 GMT -5
This is nice to see but I highly doubt that it will go any higher (hope I am wrong), most albums these days can chart high while actually selling very little. For an album in this day and age to climb after first week usually needs a hit single or some kind of performance to increase sales the second week of release. The HBO broadcast could help but by then it's my guess Duets will have fallen below #100 and I would be surprised if it is still in the top #200 by the end of May. The business is so awful these days an album release can debut in the top five and be off the charts within a month with less than a quarter million sold by that time. Stevie Nicks last solo release IN YOUR DREAMS debut in the top five a couple years ago. Nicks did almost every talk show possible toured extensively behind it. Within six weeks it was off the charts and a year after release it had sold a little over 250,000 copies. Stevie put Fleetwood Mac's last tour off for six months to go back out on the road in hopes of getting a gold album out of IN YOUR DREAMS. I could be wrong at this point but I don't think IN YOUR DREAMS has even hit the gold mark yet in the US. Global sales I would imagine has made IN YOUR DREAMS a gold album by now. Stevie sells well in Britain due to Fleetwood Mac originating from there. Ronstadt has never had much of a market outside the US since her heyday. Having said this I am pleased and surprised Duets debuted as high as it has.
Duets didn't make the Billboard's Country Album Chart. At least not the top 25 that is shown online. Does anyone know if the Billboard Country Album Chart goes beyond the top 25? I am guessing it might for those who pay for a subscription
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Post by mykeindc on Apr 17, 2014 19:26:01 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is Linda's highest position on the charts since Cry Like A Rainstorm, which was 25 years ago.
--MikeinDC
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Post by erik on Apr 17, 2014 20:46:31 GMT -5
Quote by mykeindc:
I do believe it is; in fact, between that album and this collection, she had only gotten as high as #62 (Trio II in 1999).
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Post by charlotte on Apr 18, 2014 10:06:08 GMT -5
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Post by Robert Morse on Apr 18, 2014 12:07:00 GMT -5
-- Linda Ronstadt, "Duets" - No. 32 - New Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee Linda Ronstadt roars back onto the Billboard 200, as her new compilation "Duets" debuts at No. 32 — her highest charting album since 1990.
The multi-genre performer last went higher with that year's "Cry Like a Rainstorm, Howl Like the Wind" (featuring Aaron Neville), which peaked at No. 7 on March 17, 1990. That set spawned three hit singles on the Billboard Hot 100, including the smash No. 2 cut "Don't Know Much," featuring Neville. (It also produced her so-far final Hot 100 entry, "When Something Is Wrong With My Baby," which topped out at No. 78.)
The new compilation -- which happens to include "Don't Know Much" -- boasts collaborations with Don Henley, Bette Midler, Frank Sinatra, Dolly Parton and Emmylou Harris. Her No. 2 Hot 100 hit with James Ingram, "Somewhere Out There," is also included. (One previously-unreleased cut rounds out the 15-song collection: "Pretty Bird," with Laurie Lewis.)
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Post by charlotte on Apr 18, 2014 13:38:10 GMT -5
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Post by MokyWI on Apr 18, 2014 16:44:04 GMT -5
It would be great to see all this press take Duets even higher on the chart in the next few weeks. Either way, this feels pretty darn good for a die hard like myself. CONGRATULATIONS to Miss Ronstadt and all of us here on this board. Many of us have been members for, what now...let's see, I remember becoming a member back when We Ran was about to be released. I think that was late 97 when the news of that album was posted on this site. We have hung in there and never gave up on "Our Girl"...then again why would we with all the excellent music released after Linda's stardom days. Which reminds me, does anyone know what has happened to ronstadtazfan? He used to post often and I have not noticed him around for a long while now. I hope he is well. I always enjoyed his input and he is a big animal advocate which always wins in my book.
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Post by Richard W on Apr 18, 2014 19:53:59 GMT -5
It would be great to see all this press take Duets even higher on the chart in the next few weeks. Either way, this feels pretty darn good for a die hard like myself. CONGRATULATIONS to Miss Ronstadt and all of us here on this board. Many of us have been members for, what now...let's see, I remember becoming a member back when We Ran was about to be released. I think that was late 97 when the news of that album was posted on this site. We have hung in there and never gave up on "Our Girl"...then again why would we with all the excellent music released after Linda's stardom days. Which reminds me, does anyone know what has happened to ronstadtazfan? He used to post often and I have not noticed him around for a long while now. I hope he is well. I always enjoyed his input and he is a big animal advocate which always wins in my book. I've been wondering too, Mike, and noticed his absence. He should be a pretty happy guy based on all this. |
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Post by Partridge on Apr 18, 2014 22:52:54 GMT -5
This was a surprising chart entry for me since I have not seen this CD for sale in any store.
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Post by sliderocker on Apr 19, 2014 11:42:30 GMT -5
This was a surprising chart entry for me since I have not seen this CD for sale in any store. Makes you wonder as to which stores Billboard is gleaming their information from? Definitely not Walmart which doesn't allow Billboard's beloved Soundscan system into their stores to count sales of recordings. Funny thing about Billboard's charts: the Eagles' "Long Road Out of Eden" was only sold in Walmart stores (from what I record reading), an exclusive deal between Walmart, the Eagles and their record company, which technically meant LROOE shouldn't have charted at all in Billboard. It made number one. Billboard found a way to take in sales in Walmart stores so that the Eagles had a number one album. As far as I know, that's something Billboard did for no other artist who also had an exclusive deal with a store chain. And all other albums sold in Walmart that charted still didn't have those sales counted in Billboard. In old days (before Soundscan), Billboard obtained information from about 15,000 stores. And I suspect they and/or the record companies multiplied the sales figures, claiming millions more were being sold than were actually being reported. But, the thing was no one saw the actual sales figures that went into making up the Billboard charts. You had to take them at their word that the charts were an accurate reflection of the sales. After Soundscan came along, they started including sales figures. I recall one of the Bee Gees's final albums ("Still Waters") that made it to number 16 on the Top 20 albums charts only sold about 35,000 copies before disappearing from Billboard's album chart. You could be forgiven for thinking the album was a huge bust but the album was certified by the RIAA as gold and then as platinum. So how did Billboard miss all those sales? Billboard also missed the sales of the Bee Gees's next album, which was the live album "One Night Only." Again, did poorly in Billboard but it was certified gold and also believe it was certified platinum as well by the RIAA. Billboard somehow misses a lot of sales, and if the way they counted the Bee Gees albums are any indication, the same is very likely happening with sales of Linda's "Duets." But, I still don't trust Billboard as a reliable source on sales because they are missing sales. |
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Post by Robert Morse on Apr 19, 2014 13:35:01 GMT -5
Looks like Duets is back up to #2 on Amazon:)
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Post by eddiejinnj on Apr 22, 2014 18:35:52 GMT -5
duets is currently number 2 on the barnes and noble site. good to hear. can't wait to see where it goes on billboard. eddiejinnj
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Post by kgreen on Apr 23, 2014 5:41:20 GMT -5
A chart to watch is Amazon Best Sellers for 2014. Duets is up to 31 for this year so far. Additional sales will move it up so this is a good indicator if it continues to sell. It has steadily moved up the past few weeks. Every other day it seems to go up one or two positions. The only thing is, how much of a sales indicator is Amazon in general?
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Post by charlotte on Apr 24, 2014 11:24:41 GMT -5
Linda hangs in on the Billboard Album charts at 72. Her Duets release remains atop the cd charts Amazon #3, Barnes and Noble #2, cd universe #1, Target #2. Etc. There is also a roots/rock radio lisitng that had Duets at #8 on airplay. As described by others Billboard is an odd combo of downloads and other criteria. Still it is impressive for Linda whose music naturally inspires attention without any highly coordinated public relations or digital push. Seems Duets is going to have a very healthy shelf life. Noticed new releases on Amazon of Hasten, Living inthe USA and Prisoner in Disguise -does anyone know what these are about?
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Post by fool;s gold on Apr 24, 2014 12:29:22 GMT -5
Noticed new releases on Amazon of Hasten, Living inthe USA and Prisoner in Disguise -does anyone know what these are about? Yes, those are the 70's albums of Linda's. |
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Post by Richard W on Apr 24, 2014 12:50:23 GMT -5
You probably meant, since they're listed under "new releases" and they're not, if they've been given some sort of special sonic treatment.
I don't have an answer.
As far as I know, LITUSA has never been MoFi'ed or remastered on gold, etc.
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Post by charlotte on Apr 24, 2014 16:10:28 GMT -5
Thanx Richard - was wondering if they were remastered or something like that. More likely they are just quick reissues thus the modest price point. Like you said before eveyone is getting in on the act.
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Post by kgreen on Apr 25, 2014 20:48:20 GMT -5
A chart to watch is Amazon Best Sellers for 2014. Duets is up to 31 for this year so far. Additional sales will move it up so this is a good indicator if it continues to sell. It has steadily moved up the past few weeks. Every other day it seems to go up one or two positions. The only thing is, how much of a sales indicator is Amazon in general? So this Amazon category of Best Sellers for 2014 intrigues me. www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014/music/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar#2Don't know how many Amazon actually sells but I would think quite a few. Last week this record was #31 for the year. New records enter the chart and some stop selling. If a record continues to sell it will go higher and at the end of the year, whoever sells the most must have done OK. Linda has incrementally gone up over the past 3 weeks, from #68 to now #26.....and rising. This is . . Not bad for a record that has been out only a few weeks. |
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Post by sliderocker on Apr 26, 2014 0:53:49 GMT -5
Don't know how many Amazon actually sells but I would think quite a few. Last week this record was #31 for the year. New records enter the chart and some stop selling. If a record continues to sell it will go higher and at the end of the year, whoever sells the most must have done OK. Linda has incrementally gone up over the past 3 weeks, from #68 to now #26.....and rising. This is . . Not bad for a record that has been out only a few weeks. I don't know how many copies Amazon has sold but I don't think one could venture a guess that would accurately be in the ballpark. That ranking could reflect a handful of sales or a lot of sales but without actual numbers, you just don't know how many copies have been sold. I think of it as like a giant store chain, much like Wal Mart and Target are giant store chains. Wal Mart does not report to Billboard, so any copies of "Duets" being sold in Wal Marts goes unreported. Look at the number of Wal Marts there are across the US. That could be a lot of sales being missed. Then again, Wal Mart does not have a large inventory of cds like they used to have. I don't know if Target reports to Billboard but they also don't have a large inventory.. Amazon may not report to Billboard but what about their sources that supply the cds? The only guess I would make is that the album has sold well but the only proof of how well it has done or will do would be the awarding of a gold (500,000 sold), platinum (1,000,000 copies sold) or diamond (10 million copies sold) record award by the RIAA for certified album sales. Anything else may be inaccurate because it's represents only a portion of all available retail outlets. |
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Post by kgreen on Apr 27, 2014 5:12:13 GMT -5
A chart to watch is Amazon Best Sellers for 2014. Duets is up to 31 for this year so far. Additional sales will move it up so this is a good indicator if it continues to sell. It has steadily moved up the past few weeks. Every other day it seems to go up one or two positions. The only thing is, how much of a sales indicator is Amazon in general? So this Amazon category of Best Sellers for 2014 intrigues me. www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014/music/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar#2Don't know how many Amazon actually sells but I would think quite a few. Last week this record was #31 for the year. New records enter the chart and some stop selling. If a record continues to sell it will go higher and at the end of the year, whoever sells the most must have done OK. Linda has incrementally gone up over the past 3 weeks, from #68 to now #26.....and rising. This is . . Not bad for a record that has been out only a few weeks. As of 6 am on 4/27, this record is now #24 on the best seller of 2014 list on Amazon, up two more notches so it is definitely selling on Amazon. |
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Post by kgreen on Apr 27, 2014 5:21:26 GMT -5
#1 Bestseller on Barnes & Noble
#1 Bestseller on CD Universe
Is it possible Linda has a real hit record and we may never know unless the record company certifies it?
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