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Post by ausfan2 on Jan 28, 2012 5:30:24 GMT -5
Before listening to the 3 known live songs of the Stone Ponies in concert at the Bitter End I have included a copy of the Different Drum Album version for comparison purposes:
Different Drum Live
One for One
New Hard Time
Bitter End Interview
(A copy was posted on the old forum site)
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 28, 2012 11:15:51 GMT -5
Actually, the song in the video for "One For One" (not "One By One") is "New Hard Times." A few people noted the error on youtube when the song was posted there but the person who posted the video never corrected the song title. As for the Stone Poneys, I don't consider the musicians backing Linda at that time to have been the Stone Poneys. I recall that issue was brought up on youtube and someone replied the musicians were promoted as the Stone Poneys and regarded themselves as the Stone Poneys. But, I guess the real question would've been did Linda consider the musicians to be the Stone Poneys? I can see where they may have used the name for the name recognition associated with "Different Drum," but I don't think any of these guys stuck around as the next time a band was seen (pre-"Long, Long Time") backing Linda, it was a different set of musicians. They seemed more like pick up musicians, musicians needed for the moment rather than for the long term.
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Post by erik on Jan 28, 2012 12:11:32 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker:
Yes, in general, Linda was working with a pick-up crew of L.A. musicians and it was still being called the Stone Poneys. I think the last time Linda, Bobby Kimmel, and Kenny Edwards performed as a trio was on a bill with the Byrds and the Buffalo Springfield in San Diego on January 20, 1968, just as "Different Drum" was nearing its peak position on the Hot 100. From that point forward, Linda was to all intents and purposes a solo artist. It may not have been the situation she wanted, but I think she knew it was probably inevitable.
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Post by Ive Got To Know on Jan 28, 2012 19:51:56 GMT -5
Also, those Live From The Bitter End shows were recorded in a studio made to look like the Bitter End rather than the actual venue.
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 29, 2012 0:45:19 GMT -5
Yes, in general, Linda was working with a pick-up crew of L.A. musicians and it was still being called the Stone Poneys. I think the last time Linda, Bobby Kimmel, and Kenny Edwards performed as a trio was on a bill with the Byrds and the Buffalo Springfield in San Diego on January 20, 1968, just as "Different Drum" was nearing its peak position on the Hot 100. From that point forward, Linda was to all intents and purposes a solo artist. It may not have been the situation she wanted, but I think she knew it was probably inevitable. I thought the guy playing guitar to Linda's left might have been Bobby Kimmel, as I think I recall reading he did appear with Linda at some venues following Kenny Edwards's departure from the group. There's some similarities but not enough for an exact match. The other guitarist didn't appear to be a bad guitarist but like the rest of the musicians, he was just totally unrecognizable. Given their short tenure, I have to wonder whether the band just didn't work out and Linda or her manager dismissed them in favor of finding better musicians or whether the musicians didn't see having a long term success as a member of Linda's band? I couldn't see Linda having any kind of major success with that band playing on her records. They weren't horribly bad but neither were they exceptionally good, but I do think the reason they didn't hang around was that someone didn't consider them good enough to stay in the picture. |
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jan 29, 2012 11:14:27 GMT -5
so that was not actually the bitter end? wow, it would seem that it is a very early music video then. such a revolutionary she is lol!!!! eddiejinnj
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Post by Ive Got To Know on Jan 31, 2012 19:26:42 GMT -5
so that was not actually the bitter end? wow, it would seem that it is a very early music video then. such a revolutionary she is lol!!!! eddiejinnj Live From The Bitter End was a syndicated TV show |
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Post by erik on Jan 31, 2012 19:43:26 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker:
Well, she did have many band line-ups back then. When she started her solo career in 1969, it was with the Corvettes, including Chris Darrow and Bernie Leadon; and then in 1970, it was with Swampwater, which included John Beland and Gib Guilbeau. Although these shifting line-ups made for some strange moments in her career, Linda clearly had the ability to be a leader, and all of the musicians who performed with her have had only great things to say about her.
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Post by John on Sept 22, 2023 10:00:09 GMT -5
Also, those Live From The Bitter End shows were recorded in a studio made to look like the Bitter End rather than the actual venue. Yes, I was in the small audience at the TV station. I got to chat with the main star, Chuck Jackson, and an up and coming lead singer of the Stone Poneys, Linda Ronstadt, between tapings. We were seated at tables to resemble the night club. Every song was lip synced. Linda said she was from Tucson, AZ and I offered to show her around NYC , but they were playing at the actual club that evening so she had to decline. |
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Post by eddiejinnj on Sept 22, 2023 14:11:13 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum, John. Wow, great story. Thanks for sharing it. eddiejinnj
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