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Post by rick on Feb 18, 2013 0:32:13 GMT -5
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 18, 2013 4:39:35 GMT -5
Very sad ending. I was never quite a fan of Mindy's although it seemed her career went downhill as fast as it had risen. Bizarre that she committed suicide by gun - most female suicides are by overdoses and not by guns. I assume there will be an autopsy to verify she killed herself though I sometimes think coroners can make mistakes in calling someone's death a suicide. Sometimes, the mistakes are intentional so that insurance companies don't have to pay on large dollar policies.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 8:45:28 GMT -5
I would hate to think that insurance companies would enter into it, but I have do doubt as to their amorality...
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Post by markv on Feb 18, 2013 8:52:58 GMT -5
Mindy has a version of "Long Long Time".
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Post by erik on Feb 18, 2013 9:38:41 GMT -5
You never like to use the word "statistic" when talking about deaths of this kind inside the music industry, but I'm sad to say this is what Mindy seemed to be. A sad thing to hear about just the same.
Incidentally, for those who might be interested in knowing, it is on Mindy's 1997 album If I Don't Stay The Night that you will find her cover of "Long Long Time" that markv mentions.
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Post by the Scribe on Feb 18, 2013 10:50:40 GMT -5
I assume she got into drugs and drugs will open people up to all kinds of demons that even the most "grounded" person has trouble overcoming.
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Post by erik on Feb 18, 2013 10:56:30 GMT -5
Yes, and so much more: bad relationships, and at least one relationship that was downright abusive. That makes it all the more hard to take, regardless of whether one was a fan or not (IMHO).
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 18, 2013 14:02:09 GMT -5
I would hate to think that insurance companies would enter into it, but I have do doubt as to their amorality... I doubt the insurance companies would be denying a claim publicly, but they could get assistance from the state and politicians. When child actress Dana Plato died in Oklahoma as a result of a drug overdose, the state coroner's office called her death a suicide. The problem with that verdict was that as troubled as she was, she left no suicide note. The coroner based his suicide verdict on her then-recent troubles, such as her appearance on the Howard Stern Show. The fact that she had a million dollar insurance policy that paid off in the event of death (except if the person committed suicide) played absolutely no role in the verdict. But, Oklahoma has always been a pro-business state, with the politicians not being able to do enough to help the corporations stick it to the citizens by turning the screws as tight as they can, and then making them even tighter. Plato had had her troubles but a lot those troubles were in the further past and she was recovering and rebuilding her life at the time of her death. Most drug overdose deaths in Oklahoma were and are regarded as accidental but where there is a suicide verdict, it's usually because there was an insurance policy with a high dollar payoff. And the state's coroner's office has been described as corrupt, although I don't know if that's because they truly are that corrupt or because it's an office the state's politicians like to meddle into the business affairs of the coroner's office. It's probably both. Several years back, there were several hundred cases with pending autopsy results, including some from previous years. I don't know how other states's coroner offices are, but I know I wouldn't want to die accidentally in Oklahoma with a million dollar insurance policy to be paid off to my survivors. Oklahoma would find some way to help the insurance company deny that payment. |
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 18, 2013 14:09:45 GMT -5
Ironically, she had written a song in light of her fiance's death earlier, titled "I'll See You Yesterday." It was a song to help those contemplating suicide. She had been a self-admitted in-house patient at some kind of hospital, helping her deal with the suicide death of her fiance, and presumably trying to help her from taking the same course of action. She managed to talk her way out of the hospital just a short time before she took her own life.
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Post by the Scribe on Feb 18, 2013 18:22:17 GMT -5
Suicides often beget suicides. I have seen that happen often.
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Post by JasonKlose on Feb 18, 2013 19:49:52 GMT -5
I wasn't a fan myself but knew of her. My brother is probably more familiar with her work, being that he is a huge country music fan. I'm not.....only like a handful of artists. But this is a sad story. I heard she was troubled for a while but never expected to hear anything like this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 21:36:44 GMT -5
A permanent solution to a temporary problem as the old saying goes.. sad
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Post by erik on Feb 18, 2013 22:19:02 GMT -5
I do feel that it wasn't just the personal, chemical, and mental demons she had to deal with. Fellow country artist Pam Tillis lamented in a Facebook post that the industry wanted to peg a "bimbo" image on her, and make her a "blonde Shania", which ought to show you that sad tendency of the Nashville star-making machinery to make copies of everyone.
I do think that, without all those pressures placed on her, Mindy was going places, as could be gauged by the fact that she did cover "Long Long Time", which is such a gut-wrenching song to do (just ask Linda herself). She was willing to take chances with her material, doing more than the standard Nashville schtick, but I don't think she was ever given that chance. And given those circumstances, and what followed, it sadly doesn't surprise me that she fell off the map like she did.
But I'm in no position to judge her final actions. I only hope she is now able to find the peace that she couldn't find in this life.
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Post by the Scribe on Feb 19, 2013 10:53:17 GMT -5
For those who haven't heard it yet:
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