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Post by eddiejinnj on Feb 8, 2023 15:38:53 GMT -5
Thank you so much, all for the updates. I know in the past record sales of a single did not constitute necessarily what placement it had as radio play we factored in. So is she going to be number 4 on the Billboard Top 100. Does trending/radio play factor in? Thanks again for everybody's due diligence.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Feb 8, 2023 15:50:28 GMT -5
I feel the resurgence of this song is for all us fans that stood by Linda through thick and thin. I/We stood by in many cases an underdog who received a lot of criticism that us fans had to endure as a result. I was made fun of liking Linda and she was not into her fans at all, being ungracious at times. I was bold enough that when i was on the hs radio station I played like 80% Linda. I feel vindicated. I hope whoever bought her catalog does well. This is so cool that what I/we liked is new again. Cause everything old is new again. eddiejinfl
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Post by PoP80 on Feb 8, 2023 17:03:42 GMT -5
I'm pleasantly surprised that the episode generated so much buzz about the song. I never considered Long, Long Time to be an obscure song, but that might be my skewed perspective. I'm happy younger fans are discovering Linda, and older fans have a reignited spark of appreciation. As Eddie said, we diehard fans have stuck by Linda since the beginning. You have to be tone deaf not to hear her magnificent voice, whether or not, she was always the "flavor-of-the-month."
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Post by gr on Feb 8, 2023 18:58:25 GMT -5
Glad the veil of time is being lifted off younger generations, and glad Linda is still here to see it happening.
As for a biopic.. I hope not. Biopics require substantial drama to be compelling, vs biographies which just document a life and its achievements. I've loved Linda for years but I'd be the first to admit beyond music there's not much for a biopic to go on, which in other biopics leads to making stuff up (see Bohemian Rhapsody).
I feel like one of the prerequisites for a compelling biopic is a person who is a bit messy in their personal life and has lots of big ups and downs and struggles that were somewhat verifiably known. I'm no expert on all things Ronstadt, but Linda seems to me to be someone who had a comfortable childhood, great success in her career and not much real personal struggle that we know about.. not like Janis Joplin or Whitney Houston. The personal triumph and tragedy stuff -- the dirt, if you will -- stuff a biopic audience would want to know is stuff she's never shared nor will ever share with the public. If it even exists. Therefore I feel like a biopic would just be a recital of her basic bio details and career, which was amply covered in The Sound of My Voice.
I watched her biography and while it was interesting I felt like as far as getting a window into her mind/soul it was all arms length. We didn't really get to know what things outside of music went on with her behind the scenes, relationship details etc. We just know bullet point facts for the most point.. who she dated and when, maybe she did drugs maybe she didn't.. etc. I'm worried if they make a biopic they'll jazz it up with nonsense based on tabloid rumor.
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Post by erik on Feb 8, 2023 19:14:25 GMT -5
Quote by PoP80:
I too think it is a very big deal that this song is generating the kind of buzz it is. As for "Long Long Time" being an "obscure" song--well, to be fair, it is, or at least was, to the current generation of listeners before it got used in The Last Of Us; and in any case, we are likely three generations of listeners removed from when it was a hit to start with in 1970. It is not obscure to those of us who are fans, of course.
Even more importantly, it is certainly at least as well-known to those fans of Linda's who are also in the music business, and who do this, and many of Linda's other songs, in their concerts or on their albums, which in itself is a big deal, since many of them (including Trisha Yearwood, for starters) make these songs well known to their own fanbases who might not otherwise have even heard of them or of Linda herself.
Part of the problem we've had as fans is that in the period between 1991 and 2006, the final fifteen years of her recording career, Linda was involved in projects that the record-buying public wasn't all that psyched up about, for whatever reasons, so it was easy for the media to just dismiss her as a relic. And even in the nine and a half years since she announced she had to stop singing because of what she thought in 2013 was Parkinson's Disease (re-diagnosed as Progressive Supranuclear Palsy), the media oftentimes only gave her a passing glance at best before focusing on more shallow people in the industry who are only famous for being notorious.
Does this buzz around "Long Long Time" change things? I hope it does.
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Post by erik on Feb 9, 2023 13:44:51 GMT -5
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Post by PoP80 on Feb 9, 2023 16:29:48 GMT -5
That's so "rad!" Linda is a trendsetter once again...
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Post by Holly on Feb 9, 2023 16:51:17 GMT -5
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Post by Holly on Feb 9, 2023 17:01:14 GMT -5
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Post by eddiejinnj on Feb 9, 2023 17:02:28 GMT -5
What the heck is the Lyric Find US and Global charts? Cool it Number One in Rock Digital Sales but it is not rock. Is there still a Hot 100 Chart and where is the song on that? eddiejinfl 5050
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Post by eddiejinnj on Feb 9, 2023 17:04:05 GMT -5
I always thought the pic of that bathroom was cool. eddiejinfl
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Post by MokyWI on Feb 9, 2023 17:29:19 GMT -5
What the heck is the Lyric Find US and Global charts? Cool it Number One in Rock Digital Sales but it is not rock. Is there still a Hot 100 Chart and where is the song on that? eddiejinfl 5050 It has not charted on the Hot 100 yet.
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Post by tonygent on Feb 9, 2023 18:41:30 GMT -5
The last time I posted was a long long time ago. To respond to edfieinnj remarks. lyric ranking takes the top trending lyric searches around the world and in the USA Lindas numero Uno on both these charts . I would screenshot these two charts . Who knows if this will happen in our lifetime again. www.billboard.com/charts/lyricfind-global/www.billboard.com/charts/lyricfind-us/Lyric find ranking charts what lyrics people are searching for . Which song in my opinion have captured the national and global zeitgeist. Which I find meaningful. It takes a fine interpreter of song to make one interested in the 50 year old music lyrics. Which is interesting for an artist like Linda Ronstadt who’s spent a majority of her career defying trends , and in some way unintentionally setting some . Which has always made me as a (I don’t like the term “fan”) meaningful listener and yakker of her music appreciate and respect her.
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Post by erik on Feb 9, 2023 19:42:55 GMT -5
Anybody else besides me noticed that there is at least one major publication that, to my knowledge, has remained conspicuously silent about all this renewed attention Linda has been getting?
Does the name Rolling Stone mean anything to anyone anymore? (he asked rhetorically)
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Post by Holly on Feb 10, 2023 1:14:32 GMT -5
The Last of Us REACTION VIDEOS for Episode 3 LONG LONG TIME
(these reaction videos are multiplying like zombies)
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+last+of+us+episode+3+long+long+time+reaction+videos
They all have one thing in common. Gut wrenching crying. If you like to see grown men and women cry this is the place to go. Even therapists are crying. I have never seen anything like it. There is even talk that this will be an award winning show as one of the best of all time. I wonder how much coming out of the pandemic has affected us all emotionally and this episode allows us all to have that one last cry? or has made us more sensitive?
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Post by Holly on Feb 10, 2023 5:24:33 GMT -5
Has anyone seen The Last of Us series so far? Coincidence that the two states where the Long Long Time singer has lived is the epicenter? Can't make this stuff up.
Interesting article in real life:
Dangerous fungal illness rapidly spreading across country, doctors warn www.yahoo.com/news/dangerous-fungal-illness-rapidly-spreading-182156354.html
Chris Oberholtz
Thu, February 2, 2023 at 11:21 AM MST
SAN FRANCISCO – Doctors are warning of a dangerous fungal illness rapidly spreading across the country, especially affecting those living or visiting the California and Arizona areas.
If you think it sounds like something from the cutting room floor of "The Last of Us" series, where a parasitic fungal infection devastates mankind, there are some very base-level similarities.
"The Last of Us": Could fungal infections cause human brain disturbances? FOX 26 Houston
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Post by tonygent on Feb 10, 2023 9:10:59 GMT -5
The Last of Us REACTION VIDEOS for Episode 3 LONG LONG TIME
(these reaction videos are multiplying like zombies)
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+last+of+us+episode+3+long+long+time+reaction+videos
They all have one thing in common. Gut wrenching crying. If you like to see grown men and women cry this is the place to go. Even therapists are crying. I have never seen anything like it. There is even talk that this will be an award winning show as one of the best of all time. I wonder how much coming out of the pandemic has affected us all emotionally and this episode allows us all to have that one last cry? or has made us more sensitive?
I think crying has less to do with sensitivity and more with culture and science . I also believe it takes courage to cry. Then there are those who can’t cry. Back to the song, the song cries. Linda Ronstadt ( The Long Long Time singer as you described ) voice has always resonated a cry . Maybe Ronstadt’s voice is an outlet for those who are suppressed in their emotions. It affords a way to exorcise a demon of suppression Suppressed emotion that lead to sickness, heart disease , early death and sometimes wars. Way Off topic, but valley fever has been around a long time, like my migraines and allergies. Not even Covid can suppress them. It’s been a long long time since I’ve had a good cry while listening to a good song. They really don’t make them like they used to, Mark Anthony
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Post by eddiejinnj on Feb 10, 2023 14:05:42 GMT -5
Well, I must be a very courageous person. I cry often for various reasons including my depressive illness but it is therapeutic often for me. I will always remember Phoebe Snow whom I thought had some pipes and was a courageous and loving person said that Linda has "this cry in her voice. It is like she is crying while singing". I sure hope she gets on the top 100 chart above the 25 position mark it peaked at last time 53 yrs ago. All have a safe and peaceful weekend. eddiejinfl
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Post by PoP80 on Feb 10, 2023 17:07:10 GMT -5
I love the "cry" in Linda's voice. It's an innate quality. If anyone remembers Connie Francis, she had that also. Anyhow, as I said before, episode 3 of 'Last of Us' made me tear up because of Linda more than the storyline, but it was a very poignant love story. It's also refreshing to see men cry, and it's nothing to be ashamed of.
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Post by Mr. Kaplansky on Feb 11, 2023 5:05:56 GMT -5
It's too bad Linda didn't win the grammy For Long Long Time. She lost to "I'll never fall in love again" by Dionne Warwick. I think even the other 3 songs nominated were better songs than Dionne's song: Ain't no mountain high enough-Diana Ross, Snowbird-Anne Murray, Fancy-Bobby Gentry.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Feb 11, 2023 5:32:25 GMT -5
Always thought Dionne's song was so catchy when I was a kid. Not a fan of Diana's at all. "Snowbird" light fare to me and is Bobbie Gentry's "Fancy" the same one Reba sings? eddiejinfl
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Post by RobGNYC on Feb 11, 2023 8:29:08 GMT -5
Yes, same “Fancy.” Bobbie wrote it. Brilliant. She should have won the Grammy.
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Post by markm on Feb 11, 2023 8:50:05 GMT -5
Hi all, A question. (Sorry if it's already been asked.)
I don't hear a pedal steel in Long, Long Time. I hear a harpsichord. In that YouTube video where the guy "deconstructs" the song, he claims it's a pedal steel. Is it? Does anyone know if there's a harpsichord and if so who played it? Am I hallucinating?
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Post by RobGNYC on Feb 11, 2023 10:24:18 GMT -5
Hi all, A question. (Sorry if it's already been asked.) I don't hear a pedal steel in Long, Long Time. I hear a harpsichord. In that YouTube video where the guy "deconstructs" the song, he claims it's a pedal steel. Is it? Does anyone know if there's a harpsichord and if so who played it? Am I hallucinating? I thought the same thing. I hear a harpsichord too. I haven’t been able to find harpsichord in any of the album credits (Discogs, etc.)
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Post by Biff McFly on Feb 11, 2023 10:35:58 GMT -5
The two instruments can sound similar since they are both plucked with a plectrum. The biggest tell is in the sustain after the plectrum attack. The harpsichord is acoustic and the pedal steel is electric. It is definitely a pedal steel. The pedal steel player was Weldon Myrick.
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Post by erik on Feb 11, 2023 13:25:29 GMT -5
From what I've read (and this would include Linda's first memoir), what Weldon Myrick did on that recording was to attach an electronic device to his pedal steel guitar to make it sound like a "gritty string section" (those being Linda's words) which he himself called the Goodlettsville String Quartet, while Buddy Spicher overdubbed a viola over his violin. The harpsichord on the song was played by Norbert Putnam, who also was on bass and made the arrangement of the song (he would go on to work with some guy named Elvis Presley [LOL]).
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Post by RobGNYC on Feb 11, 2023 13:48:22 GMT -5
From what I've read (and this would include Linda's first memoir), what Weldon Myrick did on that recording was to attach an electronic device to his pedal steel guitar to make it sound like a "gritty string section" (those being Linda's words) which he himself called the Goodlettsville String Quartet, while Buddy Spicher overdubbed a viola over his violin. The harpsichord on the song was played by Norbert Putnam, who also was on bass and made the arrangement of the song (he would go on to work with some guy named Elvis Presley [LOL]). Thanks Erik, I should have researched it better. I was pretty sure I was hearing a harpsichord since it's maybe my favorite instrument—must have been all those Partridge Family songs that did it. With you providing Norbert Putnam's name, I found the credit for "Long Long Time" in the "Retrospective" notes (he gets an arranger/conductor credit on the back of “Silk Purse”). For the record, there is also harpsichord on “Different Drum" and "Hobo" (both Don Randi). www.discogs.com/release/15593383-Linda-Ronstadt-A-Retrospective
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Post by Biff McFly on Feb 11, 2023 15:32:14 GMT -5
I knew about Weldon Myrick doing the string part with the electronic box which is known as a distortion box while Buddy Spicher overdubbed a viola over his violin. He supposed to have used the steel guitar through a Dan Armstrong "orange fuzz tone" box with a lot of reverb along with a volume pedal. Sometimes he would track each part separately. He did this technique on other artists' songs as well. He would do this live with 2 other steel players with each taking a separate part. Later he used a Boss Tone electronics box. I thought maybe he did the harpsichord part too, but I guess not. You can actually make a steel guitar (and electric guitar) sound like a harpsichord. You can also make them sound like steel drums too.
As a side note Jeff "Skunk" Baxter played the "string" parts on Charlie Freak by Steely Dan using the same technique of using a pedal steel and distortion box. Jeff Baxter played in Linda's band briefly in '74. Jeff Baxter is the one playing congas in You're No Good on the Midnight Special (the one with Clydie King in the gold outfit).
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Post by rick on Feb 11, 2023 16:04:07 GMT -5
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Post by PoP80 on Feb 11, 2023 16:26:22 GMT -5
Props to Elliot Mazur also for arranging and producing LLT. All of the elements put together worked as a magical formula. It seems like a "simple" song, but the use of the different instruments blended so well together. Whether Linda had been half-asleep or wide-awake during the recording, it would have been brilliant. I wonder what she would have changed in the phrasing if she had a do-over?
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