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Post by sliderocker on Jan 7, 2023 19:18:59 GMT -5
Last night, while watching videos on TikTok, waiting for sleep to win out, I came across a very young singer by name of Tori Holub. I'm guessing Tori to be about 22 or 23 years of age. She is a fantastic vocalist, but her talent is such it can send chills down your spine. Tori's singing voice is a virtual clone of Karen Carpenter's singing voice. Or would that be she is the reincarnation of Karen?
Watching Tori sing last night on the short videos on TikTok, I thought she was lip synching at first but I became convinced last night she was no lip syncher at all. And other than Tori being the reincarnation of Karen Carpenter and having a fascination for their songs, and the songs of Olivia Newton-John, I can't explain how her singing voice is identical to Karen's. She's better than any guy trying to sing like Elvis. This girl is that good.
A couple of Carpenters songs sung by Tori. Close your eyes and you'll swear you're listening to Karen.
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Post by musedeva on Jan 15, 2023 0:18:48 GMT -5
WOW she's incredible!!! IF that's her.....the sync on her speaking voice seems to be off a bit...so the song vocal is a bit off
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Post by musedeva on Jan 15, 2023 0:27:39 GMT -5
...getting more hope for the Future...hearing her!!! Wow....her tone actually is a bit brighter, more golden than Karen....hopefully she won't go into the dark corners of life
A Star is Born!!! my Karen freak buddy singer musician is gonna flip when he hears Tori!!!
...I just wanna know about RICHARD!!!!
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 15, 2023 8:51:37 GMT -5
WOW she's incredible!!! IF that's her.....the sync on her speaking voice seems to be off a bit...so the song vocal is a bit off /quote] It's definitely Tori. I was spooked when I heard her singing and thinking it was Karen at first, but I asked her and she said it was definitely her singing. I still get chills listening to this young lady sing in Karen's voice. I've always believed in reincarnation, but now I've got to ask those who say we all come back in our soul groups, that if this is Karen reincarnated, did she choose to return before Richard returned to the spiritual realm and returned with her? Or did she return to be with Richard to continue the Carpenters' legacy?
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 15, 2023 9:05:17 GMT -5
...getting more hope for the Future...hearing her!!! Wow....her tone actually is a bit brighter, more golden than Karen....hopefully she won't go into the dark corners of life A Star is Born!!! my Karen freak buddy singer musician is gonna flip when he hears Tori!!! ...I just wanna know about RICHARD!!!! She will do well, I think, as if she's Karen reborn, I don't think she returned with the demons that took her life at the age of 32. Makes me wonder about Linda's rebirth, if she will still want to be a singer in her next life and without all her self doubt as a vocalist and her more divaish qualities? I remember chatting with Rob in Arizona on a thread about Linda and reincarnation and felt Linda's next life might be that of a nun, being the opposite of an atheist. But, there are a lot of competing theories about reincarnation these days. My own theory is we reincarnate because we want to return, not because we have to return. But, I am seriously wowed and impressed by Tori as a vocalist, regardless of whether she is Karen reborn or not, yet it does give one hope for all the artists we have known who crossed over. And our loved ones and ourselves when it's our time.
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Post by musedeva on Jan 15, 2023 13:26:03 GMT -5
I think she's about 16-17, in her parents home...."they" haven't found her yet
love the fact she is recording in protools , i.e. KNOWS how to record
the Tibetans say its just a 49 day "vacay" we have between lives, but there is another school of thought that it could be around 30 years or so, Karen passed what? '82? so we're looking at a 20-25 year trip on the other side....who knows....there are ways to look at two birth charts and see it
where is her Olivia stuff? wanna hear that!!!
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Post by musedeva on Jan 15, 2023 13:26:41 GMT -5
she should learn the Luther version of Superstar....I love that version of Leon's master, er mistresspiece
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Post by RobGNYC on Jan 15, 2023 13:47:07 GMT -5
she should learn the Luther version of Superstar....I love that version of Leon's master, er mistresspiece Leon and Bonnie Bramlett.
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 16, 2023 21:10:43 GMT -5
I think she's about 16-17, in her parents home...."they" haven't found her yet love the fact she is recording in protools , i.e. KNOWS how to record the Tibetans say its just a 49 day "vacay" we have between lives, but there is another school of thought that it could be around 30 years or so, Karen passed what? '82? so we're looking at a 20-25 year trip on the other side....who knows....there are ways to look at two birth charts and see it where is her Olivia stuff? wanna hear that!!! She may only be about 16 or 17 years old, but I certainly thought she was older. I am amazed nonetheless by her being so tech savvy as much as I am amazed by her singing and singing like Karen. Reincarnation wise, I remember reading when I was around 16 that a century passes at least between lives, but that clearly is not the case. There are videos on YouTube from the LMN cable channel from the series The Ghost Inside My Child, which tells the stories of kids who may have had a previous past life. One young boy may have been a woman who died in the 90s or early 2000s in an apartment fire in Chicago. The woman leaped to her death, possibly thinking she may have stood a chance of surviving the fall. Seem like she fell from the eighth story window of her apartment. There was another LMN series where people were hypnotized and recalled past lives. I believe most people wait around 25 to 35 years, possibly to give their family members time to rejoin them on the other side before returning here or to other planets. Or even parallel worlds. One woman I chatted with on Facebook who was a published author indicated before we proceed to a future life, we relive our lives (the ones we have now) in parallel lives where we live our lives differently than we lived them here. That's an interesting possibility. So, on some parallel world, I am a teacher or a policeman or a rock musician married to Linda. Maybe all three or more. Everything we possibly wanted to be or wanted to do. (Heavens! I just recalled I once mentioned to a coworker who asked me how many kids I had and I jokingly said 69. She thought it was impossible that I could have that many kids and of course she was right, but I asked her if she'd like to have number 70? She was thinking about it! Now, is there another me on a parallel world somewhere with 70 kids?) On Tori singing Olivia Newton-John, she performed I Honestly Love You in tribute to Olivia when Olivia passed away on TikTok. I believe the video of that performance is on YouTube. I'm not sure of how many Olivia songs she has done, maybe just that one as she seems very focused on Karen's songs. I'll look on my emails and see if I emailed the TikTok performance to my sister or brother and post it here.
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Post by musedeva on Jan 18, 2023 17:47:04 GMT -5
that's hilarious...i just got on Toris' you tube...no olivia...and now the two recorded Karen songs are gone...shorts are still up.....well I messaged ol R.C. thru instagram...who knows...you would think alot of others,,,including her, would of linked her to him already
for me,,,,I am DONE with this dimension!!! following Howdie Mckowskis' work the past few months, I don't want to ever ever come back here to this largely suffering cesspool with a few green and blue green watery pastures thrown in seasonally!..AND!! quite frankly for near 20 years I have always believed the way to "get off the wheel" was to follow the Artists' path........anyone that seems to really really pursue Art will, at the same time, be quite self observant............
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 19, 2023 15:39:09 GMT -5
that's hilarious...i just got on Toris' you tube...no olivia...and now the two recorded Karen songs are gone...shorts are still up.....well I messaged ol R.C. thru instagram...who knows...you would think alot of others,,,including her, would of linked her to him already for me,,,,I am DONE with this dimension!!! following Howdie Mckowskis' work the past few months, I don't want to ever ever come back here to this largely suffering cesspool with a few green and blue green watery pastures thrown in seasonally!..AND!! quite frankly for near 20 years I have always believed the way to "get off the wheel" was to follow the Artists' path........anyone that seems to really really pursue Art will, at the same time, be quite self observant............ Tori performing I Honestly Love You is on TikTok. Again. Some people don't like the fact her voice is like Karen's and they have given her grief occasionally and they may have gotten her videos taken down. I found out she is only 18 years old, will be 19 this year and it's a pretty horrible thing to do to someone that young to knock her because she sounds like Karen. Fans can be so insanely cruel to performers. I hope Richard checks her out. I believe she would be thrilled, though she may also be nervous about the prospect of Richard knowing. She's still a kid. I've tried emailing the TikTok video of Tori singing Olivia's song to my computer where I could download it on my computer and then add it here. But, it won't load in an email because TikTok states it's more than 25 MB and is too large for an email. Really? I will see if I can find a way around that and still post it here. I've got an idea I'm going to try here shortly and I'm hoping that idea will work. From what I have read about reincarnation, it's possible to stop reincarnating as it's said we all have a choice and a say in the matter if we want to reincarnate. It's voluntary. And we're not just limited to this messed up world, but we can choose other planets to live on. I also believe reincarnation is the yin and yang effect. There are things we can experience on the spiritual side that we can't experience on the physical side and vice versa, so we're always going back and forth between the two. So we keep coming back to experience life in a new edition. We make up what our lives will be before we incarnate and if we don't like what we came up with, well, we apparently have a contract we agree to on living this life and we must fulfill that contract before we can move on to anything else.
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 24, 2023 4:12:23 GMT -5
Okay, this is for you Musedeva.
Tori singing Olivia's I Honestly Love You from TikTok Hope it works
https://www.tiktok.com/@ladyofthecanyons/video/7147748482118421806
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Post by musedeva on Jan 25, 2023 3:40:00 GMT -5
OMGAWDESS!! she sounds soo Olivia-Karen'd!!! lovely...and e i g h t e e n.....
...obviously an old (er) soul.....
incredible she's getting that quality of vocal on that lil hand held...I've got to migrate to doin that!
thank YOU
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Post by alyn on Jan 25, 2023 6:59:13 GMT -5
Honestly? a lot of over-reactions here, she has a strong voice and is a good mimic, but let's not go over-board people :-) She's talented, and hopefully will find the right level for the potential she has.
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 25, 2023 11:38:41 GMT -5
OMGAWDESS!! she sounds soo Olivia-Karen'd!!! lovely...and e i g h t e e n..... ...obviously an old (er) soul..... incredible she's getting that quality of vocal on that lil hand held...I've got to migrate to doin that! thank YOU You're welcome and my pleasure, Muse :-)
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 25, 2023 12:09:51 GMT -5
Honestly? a lot of over-reactions here, she has a strong voice and is a good mimic, but let's not go over-board people :-) She's talented, and hopefully will find the right level for the potential she has. Going overboard, Alyn? I think not. This young girl is remarkable in that she does sound like Karen Carpenter. Is she the reincarnation of Karen? I don't know, but no Elvis impersonator has ever been able to get close to Elvis's actual singing voice. And it is Tori singing and not Karen. I just wonder how many of us would have the same reaction if Linda was no longer with us (perish the thought) and a young female singer comes along and she sounded like Linda. As I mentioned, I'm a believer in reincarnation. And Tori was singing before she was 18 years old and she is a Carpenters fan and Olivia fan.My jaw dropped when I heard her singing like Karen, and my initial reaction was like, "Are you kidding me?" I couldn't believe it but I chatted with her and with others and believe me, there are others whose reactions are way over the moon hearing her sing. ANd she has many detractors who think she is faking. I don't think so but people have the right to not believe. What they don't have is the right to be mean and nasty to her or bullying her. That kind of behavior is unacceptable. I don't begrudge the Linda impersonators, just as I don't begrudge the Elvis impersonators. But, just as the Elvis impersonators can't get that close to his voice, Linda's impersonators don't get that close to Linda either. Tori sounds like Karen and hearing her sing can spook you the first time you hear her. And she's not an impersonator. I'm wishing her tremendous success but it will be tough because there's bound to be Carpenter fans who will resent her for her ability to sound like Karen. There's no need for any Carpenters' fan to resent Tori. We're coming up on the 40th anniversary of Karen's passing on February 4th. Tori is respectful of Karen and the Carpenters. And in Tori, fans of the Carpenters have someone who sings like Karen enough (closer than close) that she will remind fans of the Carpenters and their music. The Carpenters haven't been on anyone's radar in a long time and they were a well liked duo back in the day. And hopefully, people will check out Tori and check out the Carpenters again.
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Post by alyn on Jan 28, 2023 3:53:09 GMT -5
yes, going overboard... imho
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Post by musedeva on Jan 31, 2023 18:29:14 GMT -5
yeah,,,,I hear ya....its just that it is SO Rare to hear that,,,all those qualities...but across the board,,,,,there are so many nice voices out there compared to several years ago....inspiring
BTW,,,,mimic-ing......ability to, IMHO, is the basis of vocal musicality....its not necessarily a skill to be used re: others' voices,,,,,but other instruments/sounds/moods/colors etc.,
Honestly? a lot of over-reactions here, she has a strong voice and is a good mimic, but let's not go over-board people :-) She's talented, and hopefully will find the right level for the potential she has.
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Post by musedeva on Jan 31, 2023 18:35:15 GMT -5
<abbr>.........</abbr>I don't begrudge the Linda impersonators, just as I don't begrudge the Elvis impersonators. But, just as the Elvis impersonators can't get that close to his voice, Linda's impersonators don't get that close to Linda either. Tori sounds like Karen and hearing her sing can spook you the first time you hear her. And she's not an impersonator. I'm wishing her tremendous success but it will be tough because there's bound to be Carpenter fans who will resent her for her ability to sound like Karen. ........... hopefully, people will check out Tori and check out the Carpenters again.
Yeah.....on the spectrum of "impersonating" a vocal....it is very rare that her tone/inflections are that close I think......
...the flip side, like I've said for Eons.....its really really dangerous to cover another vocal of the same sex, esp if the age or popularity is still within a mass audience....the Ear naturally wants to compare....so females covering male vocals is always cool and vice versa
its our own original interpretation of something new or never done before that is best,,,,,I always get this feedback from others,,,even way before I finally got my jaw problem under control....re: my original stuff....
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