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Post by the Scribe on May 20, 2013 14:44:14 GMT -5
I would feel stranded in the boondocks. You are right, as you get older you need to be near to medical facilities, shopping, etc. and you can be alone by just staying in but go out and be in a crowd when you want.
Green acres ain't the place to be. Farm livin' aint the life for me. Land spreadin' out so far and wide. I'll Keep Manhattan, and give you that countryside.
New York is where I'd rather stay. I get allergic smelling hay. I just adore a penthouse view. Dah-ling I love you but give me Park Avenue.
...The chores. ...The stores. ...Fresh air. ...Times Square
You ain't my wife. Hello, city life. Green Acres we ain't there.
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Post by Dianna on May 20, 2013 15:03:17 GMT -5
LMFAOOOOOO THAT IS ME AND BRIAN TO A T!
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Post by the Scribe on May 20, 2013 15:05:01 GMT -5
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Post by sliderocker on May 21, 2013 13:26:59 GMT -5
Slide, I think you mentioned you are in Oklahoma. hope you are safe. don't know how close you are to the tornadoes. Yes, I spent the first winter /spring away from so ca and I do miss the year round sunshine, although our summers here are beautiful and better than so ca.. it didn't get horribly cold here, maybe the lowest, the high 20's but maintained 30's 40's, which isn't bad.. We're thinking about renting the house out through an agent and going back to cali.. until we reach retirement age.. but I'm not sure because I don't like the fact being out in the woods when we're older.. when you're in a big city, you can be alone but you're not really alone.. you feel safer and there is more help if that makes sense I'm safe, Dianna, thanks for asking. I stay with my brother so I don't have to spend as much money on gas for work (own a house though - which my niece is living in) and the tornado which decimated Moore yesterday afternoon was on track for my brother's house unless it turned or dissipated. Luckily, it dissipated about three to four miles from here. The tv stations were covering the tornado live and it was horrific watching it tear up Moore, which was hit by a tornado in May 1999. That tornado was pretty horrific but not as bad or as deadly as this one. I don't know why the death toll is as high as it is, why the people who died didn't take shelter instead of going about their business. There are a lot of people here who just think they can ride out a storm like that with no consequences. As for the kids who died, that's tougher because I think they were in schools or day care centers. In this tornado-prone state, I don't know why it's not mandated by law that schools and day care centers must have storm shelters for the safety of the adults and especially the safety of the kids. Regarding living out in the woods, the boonies, when one is older, I had the same reservation when my parents lived out in the country when they were older and their health was declining, especially my dad's. What was scary was the idea that if they needed medical attention right away, they were at least five miles from the nearest town with ambulance services. And that was back in the day when there was no 911 or 911 addresses. The irony though is that when time is of the essence, with certain medical conditions, it doesn't matter if you're five minutes away or thirty minutes away. Five minutes can be five minutes too long for a heart attack or stroke victim. Or a drowning victim. When my dad had a stroke in the 90s, it took the ambulance and paramedics about ten minutes to arrive, and another ten minutes to prep him for the ride to the hospital. He lived only a few months past that stroke. And I really came to the conclusion that it wouldn't have made that much of difference if my parents had been living out in the country during their end days. Medical help can sometimes arrive in a timely manner but still be too late.
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Post by erik on May 21, 2013 14:40:27 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker re. Oklahoma tornado:
From what I've heard and seen, the twister developed extremely rapidly and grew to a monstrous size; at its peak, one storm chaser thought it looked like it was two miles wide at the base.
And while it's the 200 mile-an-hour-plus winds that do the damage to anything that's not nailed down, the reason so many seemingly solid structures were destroyed was because of the extreme drop in air pressure inside the funnel. Such structures basically exploded when the funnel went through Moore.
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Post by sliderocker on May 21, 2013 15:49:54 GMT -5
From what I've heard and seen, the twister developed extremely rapidly and grew to a monstrous size; at its peak, one storm chaser thought it looked like it was two miles wide at the base. And while it's the 200 mile-an-hour-plus winds that do the damage to anything that's not nailed down, the reason so many seemingly solid structures were destroyed was because of the extreme drop in air pressure inside the funnel. Such structures basically exploded when the funnel went through Moore. The tornado did develop rapidly but the weathermen on tv watching the storm on their radio, and with on-air live coverage of the storm from their storm chasers in helicopters with cameras, had warned viewers about fifteen to twenty minutes before the storm dropped a tornado that the signatures for a tornado on their radar systems were there, and that the signs indicated it was going to be a large tornado. The warning sirens also sounded well in advance that people should've gone to their shelters or sought out shelter. People here can sometimes be so cavalier about tornadoes. "It won't come here" or "They always sound the sirens and the weathermen are always going on about tornado warnings, but nothing ever happens." They think because the last time a warning was given and nothing happened, it's safe to go about their business. The tornado actually started out southwest of Moore by Newcastle, not a great distance of miles but still enough time that people should've been paying attention. The tornado came down near a casino and the first thought was the casino was going to take a hit, with hundreds of people inside. The tornado just barely went north of the casino. One of the most frightening images of all was one of the tv station helicopters had their cameras directed on traffic on I-35 about two minutes before the tornado was going to be crossing that highway. It was bumper to bumper and traffic was stopped. And you could hear the tension and fear in the voices of the weathermen as it was clear no one was getting out of their vehicles, but just waiting for traffic to move. You're exactly right about the winds and about the low pressure dropping to such a degree that a house explodes. The reason most people die in tornadoes is because the winds of the tornado picks up the debris of the destroyed homes and property and turns them into projectiles. Or it can pick up a person or other living being and slam them into a solid object. Another horrific sight of yesterday's tornado for those watching on tv was seeing horses flying through the air. The horses perished but in a tornado, their remains were also potential projectiles that could kill others. The tornado yesterday was actually the third time since 1999 that Moore had been hit by a tornado. The one that hit in between 1999 and yesterday hit my friend's house. He was sleeping in an armchair at the time at the time storm hit. That tornado picked up him and his armchair and slammed them into the hallway of his home. He survived, luckily. He went outside to survey the damage and was stunned to see the tornado had speared a long telephone/utility pole through his pickup. He was shaken by the event and remained that way for some time. Tornadoes are storms that need to be feared and not be messed with. And when warnings are given for a certain area, people need to get to shelter immediately rather than going about their business.
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Post by the Scribe on May 21, 2013 17:57:30 GMT -5
There is an awesome video out there, about 20 or so minutes of this tornado from its formation to its killer status. What an awful thing it was.
Moore - Oklahoma City Tornado 2013 | Part 1-6
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Post by Dianna on May 21, 2013 19:54:36 GMT -5
those videos are devastating. ugh, I can't even begin to imagine what those poor people are going through, especially one that size. My heart goes out to all. I would think everyone who lives in the tornado alley would have an escape or shelter. this is really bad
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Post by sliderocker on May 22, 2013 15:24:54 GMT -5
those videos are devastating. ugh, I can't even begin to imagine what those poor people are going through, especially one that size. My heart goes out to all. I would think everyone who lives in the tornado alley would have an escape or shelter. this is really bad It looks more scary and devastating up close. The tornado was 1.3 miles wide and at its largest, classed as an E-5 tornado, the largest possible tornado. There was a "debris ball" (debris being carried through the air around the tornado) from the tornado that was nearly three miles wide. The helicopter pilots who were chasing the storm had to continually readjust their positions as several times, their helicopters came close to being sucked in by the winds of the tornado. And they were several miles away from the tornado!
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Post by sliderocker on May 22, 2013 16:17:07 GMT -5
I knew it was just a matter of time...the Westboro nut jobs are weighing in with their thoughts on the tornado in Moore. God is mad with people in Oklahoma for supporting a gay basketball player, so God's hatred of gays caused him to drop a tornado right in the heart of an Oklahoma City sururb that is predominantly Republican. Maybe it doesn't occur to the nutjobs that if God was mad at Oklahoma, it might be because of the state being pro-Republican. Of course, I am not really suggesting God is doing any such thing as wiping people off the face of the earth because he's mad about their politics or religious beliefs. But, the people here have taken to the Oklahoma City Thunder basketball players and they don't seem bothered by the fact one of the players is gay. But, this state is one of the most conservative and there are people here who probably agree with the nutjobs. But, if the Westboro nutjobs plan on showing up at any of the funerals to picket the dead, there are conservatives here who get just as angry as any liberal at anything the Westboro nutjobs do. And many of them are bound and determined that if the Westboro nutjobs show up to picket, they won't have an easy time of it. As it is, they won't be allowed anywhere near where the funerals are taking place but they make conservatives angry here with their antics. Things could get ugly at some point but if they did, the Westboro nutjobs would get no sympathy from me. They'll deserve whatever they get.
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Post by Dianna on May 23, 2013 0:01:20 GMT -5
slide, it was only a matter of hours before they weighed in.. sorry about that.I can't imagine anyone who would agree with those people especially under these horrible circumstances.
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Post by sliderocker on May 23, 2013 4:18:29 GMT -5
slide, it was only a matter of hours before they weighed in.. sorry about that.I can't imagine anyone who would agree with those people especially under these horrible circumstances. We've got some nutjobs but as conservative as this state is, just the mere mention of Westboro raises their blood pressure. Sadly, these nut jobs give all of Christianity a bad name and not every variation of Christianity agrees with the nutjobs. But, they are powerless to stop them because it's not their particular brand of Christianity the Westboro nuts belong to. They're affiliated with the Baptists but I'm not even sure the Baptists claim them. Some of the people here who don't like Westboro or doesn't want them around are Baptist and are ashamed of the connection. What I'd like to see happen is if they try to come to Oklahoma to picket, would be for the businesses along any possible routes refuse service to them. Don't sell them gas, food, provide hotel accomodations, turn them away, intimidate the hell out of them and make them feel unwanted. I would say encourage the police departments in various cities to stop them at every turn and make it even more difficult to get to their destination, but I wouldn't want the police getting into trouble for intimidating them/ I have too much respect for them, for what they do and have to put up with to suggest that. But, it would be tempting...
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Post by Dianna on Jun 30, 2013 16:23:21 GMT -5
Death Valley California nearing 130 degrees today. !!!! It's in the 70's here but feels more like 80's.. Keep cool people!!!
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Post by erik on Jun 30, 2013 18:48:44 GMT -5
Quote by Dianna:
Which, incidentally is just four degrees off the all-time world-record high established there on July 10, 1913, almost exactly a century ago, when it topped off at 134.6.
The heat here in L.A., which was dry for the last couple of days if on the extreme side, is now being made worse by an increase in humidity--possibly the onset of the monsoonal flow of moisture that regularly streams into the Southwest out of northern and central Mexico at some point during the summer. The temperature/heat index is approaching extremely dangerous levels in places.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 30, 2013 19:36:16 GMT -5
I know.. it's unusually hot in many places.. strange for early summer... here's a song that takes me back to my youth in southern california!! summertime
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Post by the Scribe on Jul 1, 2013 12:36:20 GMT -5
By living in the Phoenix area Hell won't seem so bad by the time I arrive.
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Post by erik on Jul 1, 2013 22:21:21 GMT -5
For anyone's store of information, the monsoon storms that happen in the Southwest and here Southern California at various times during the summer are known as "chubascos", which, contrary to what one might think, is actually derived from the Portuguese word "chuva", which means Rain. It happens when a big dome of high pressure is locked in place over the Four Corners (where Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, and Colorado intersect). Air flows around high pressure centers in a clockwise flow; and at the southern perimeter of the high, the air flow is out of the southeast, allowing for moist air off the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific to flow northward. Once it hits the superheated air of the Sonoran Desert, big thunderstorms form, mostly during the late morning/early afternoon, often creating strong winds (which whip up dust storms), lightning, and, if fortunate enough, heavy rains (dry lightning, however, can touch off brushfires, as the folks in Prescott, AZ can tragically attest to).
We've got our first taste of it right now, with temperatures here in L.A. hovering at close to 100 degrees, and humidity in the 30-40% range, which makes it feel like a sauna.
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Post by musicaamator on Jul 2, 2013 6:34:26 GMT -5
Just as a contrast to what is being experienced out West, SW, etc, it was only 66 degrees here yesterday--which is about 20 degrees below normal. Plus we had 11 consecutive days of rain (not constantly) but always occurring.
(Mind you, I am out in NW Ohio...)
For those going through the heatwave (no pun intended), keep safe and cool.
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Post by Dianna on Jul 2, 2013 12:32:15 GMT -5
For anyone's store of information, the monsoon storms that happen in the Southwest and here Southern California at various times during the summer are known as "chubascos", which, contrary to what one might think, is actually derived from the Portuguese word "chuva", which means Rain. It happens when a big dome of high pressure is locked in place over the Four Corners (where Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, and Colorado intersect). Air flows around high pressure centers in a clockwise flow; and at the southern perimeter of the high, the air flow is out of the southeast, allowing for moist air off the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific to flow northward. Once it hits the superheated air of the Sonoran Desert, big thunderstorms form, mostly during the late morning/early afternoon, often creating strong winds (which whip up dust storms), lightning, and, if fortunate enough, heavy rains (dry lightning, however, can touch off brushfires, as the folks in Prescott, AZ can tragically attest to). We've got our first taste of it right now, with temperatures here in L.A. hovering at close to 100 degrees, and humidity in the 30-40% range, which makes it feel like a sauna. wow.. I know parts of LA and San Bernd/Riverside get really hot and ugh when it gets humid. all you can do is pray for rain.. The humidity in northern coastal oregon is there but it's so mild you can hardly feel it.. Low 70's high 60's all week w/ partly cloudy and sunshine for the 10 day.. If we go back to calif it won't be until late october. lol Music, Enjoy your odd weather for now.. because it's not gonna stay that way
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Post by the Scribe on Jul 2, 2013 15:50:59 GMT -5
Chubascos?
Wasn't that a Star Wars character? I am still trying to get used to the word the weather channel has been trying to push on us for the same thing: Haboob
I thought the terms Monsoon & Duststorm were quite suitable as is.
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Post by erik on Jul 2, 2013 17:25:44 GMT -5
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Post by Dianna on Jul 2, 2013 17:53:41 GMT -5
ha ha at the star wars reference.. I learn new words here everyday!
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Post by Dianna on Sept 4, 2013 15:17:51 GMT -5
I mentioned to a friend out in Long Island.. in a perfect world.. I'd love to live in new england in the fall.. so calif- winter through about June then coastal oregon all summer long. All week here will be 70's high and 55 lows.. My kind of weather!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 16:25:08 GMT -5
I mentioned to a friend out in Long Island.. in a perfect world.. I'd love to live in new england in the fall.. so calif- winter through about June then coastal oregon all summer long. All week here will be 70's high and 55 lows.. My kind of weather!!! You and me both...
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Post by the Scribe on Sept 4, 2013 17:04:22 GMT -5
DEDICATION TO ROBERT AND DIANNA:
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