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Post by memac62 on Mar 22, 2021 9:57:13 GMT -5
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Post by PoP80 on Mar 22, 2021 12:21:20 GMT -5
Very pleased to hear about this. The Azoff Group is so right about the importance of preserving her legacy and introducing her to young people. Most of the younger generations has no clue what a trailblazer Linda was and her continuing inspirational work. They may vaguely know a couple of her big hits, but that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of her greatness!
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Post by RobGNYC on Mar 22, 2021 12:35:32 GMT -5
These deals make me nervous. They sound good at the initial level but what if the Azoff Group is acquired by a company that has no idea what Linda's music means? I'm thinking of Norton Simon acquiring Halston. That made sense but after a few more acquisitions/reorganizations, Playtex and Beatrice Foods owned Halston and he lost control of his name and image.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Mar 22, 2021 12:58:46 GMT -5
I agree, Rob, that it makes me nervous. I am not saying anything negative about what others here or Linda has to say. It's just that "you never know" feeling.
If Linda is happy then at this point I am happy for her too!!!! eddiejinfl
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Post by memac62 on Mar 22, 2021 13:16:56 GMT -5
This is from Variety:
Terms of the deal were not disclosed, beyond a rep noting that the deal encompasses the masters Ronstadt owns and the royalties from the ones she does not — it was not immediately clear which masters from the singer’s 50-plus-year career she owns — and that although Ronstadt’s name and likeness are not included in the deal, Iconic may use them to promote the catalog.
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Post by mcd4959 on Mar 22, 2021 14:00:52 GMT -5
While I share the tentative-ity (is that a word?) of the concerns...I'll try to be positive. This likely means reissues, box sets, extras like outtakes, demos, maybe some video even...could be great if done with care. If they just slam out the next 15 rounds of hits in varying formats, that would stink. I'm hoping for more care like the DCC & MFSL editions of the LPs & CDs. 50th Anniversary edition of HLAW anyone?
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Post by fabtastique on Mar 22, 2021 15:13:39 GMT -5
Let’s hope it means some new releases !
Can’t wait to see what becomes of this
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Post by Linda fan 5 on Mar 22, 2021 15:52:47 GMT -5
A few months ago she announced some good digital soundboard recordings had been found. It’s my guess she and John Boylan and Janet Stark we’re faced with the question of how to fix them up and get them out there. Maybe it’s a more daunting enterprise than they can handle alone. So they go looking for help and enter Irving, someone Linda knows and trusts. So it all makes sense. So we get live tracks remastered and hopefully some terrific rare stuff too. On Spotify now there is a live concert from 1973 that would not be digital but it sounds good and could be improved by tech savvy studio types. Included are live versions of “Nightingale,” “I Believe In You,” and “Crazy Arms.” It’s not new, most of you have already heard it. She’s performing at the Site and it’s going on the radio but chats with the band so much land they tune their instruments often so the host sounds a little flustered. He’s asking questions and crickets, no answer. It’s nice to have it on Spotify. The last time this happened it was the 1980 concert that become her only live record. It could be happening again with this one that someone found a decent enough recording.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 16:27:17 GMT -5
Shame that executive was quoted including the F-word ><
While we can all hope this deal means good things, time to buy what's been released already in case things don't work out.
Linda is sorting out her estate & legacy, good but sad too.
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Post by Guest. on Mar 22, 2021 16:27:49 GMT -5
Great news her legacy will be in highly competent, devoted hands. While there has been a significant surge in praise, attention and celebration of all things Ronstadt her on-line presence is scattered at best and she has been so ambivalent about self- promotion. Boylan and Stark are loyalists but modern media ain't their thing. My goodness I can name many lightweights dead or alive whose catalogs and images have been better managed. That so- called official fb page is some intern in the UK who spells her name wrong. The fan sites have done a better job - this being one of the best. Yet many just seem to oggle her photographs. It can only get better.
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Post by erik on Mar 22, 2021 18:15:07 GMT -5
While I can understand the trepidation some have about Linda selling any part of her catalog to anyone, I don't know of any better hands it could have fallen into than the "czar", as it were, of her favorite bunch of in-house desperados, and someone she has known for almost 50 years.
What we the fans will get out of it is anyone's guess...and in some ways that's part of the fun (IMHO).
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Post by eddiejinnj on Mar 23, 2021 5:53:01 GMT -5
Welcome, guest, to the forum. We talk about her name being misspelled all the time. It is very frustrating. Thank you for your compliment of this site. We all work hard to make this site extremely informative and hopefully fun at the same time. It is easy to join the forum and if you feel comfortable; maybe you can tell us how you became a Linda fan. Thanks again for your input!!! eddiejinfl
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Post by alyn on Mar 23, 2021 6:14:52 GMT -5
Shame that executive was quoted including the F-word >< While we can all hope this deal means good things, time to buy what's been released already in case things don't work out. Linda is sorting out her estate & legacy, good but sad too. I agree about the use of the f-word... I hate it with a passion that it can be dropped in like that, absolutely no need at all... it's kind of like a showing-off thing and (as they used to say) shows a poor command of the English language. |
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Post by sliderocker on Mar 23, 2021 7:21:02 GMT -5
Shame that executive was quoted including the F-word >< While we can all hope this deal means good things, time to buy what's been released already in case things don't work out. Linda is sorting out her estate & legacy, good but sad too. I agree with you, to some degree, but I also believe the various labels Linda has been on have done nothing to promote her artistry. She's retired and can't sing because of her illness. I know Azoff has managed some of the artists Linda was associated with and it makes sense she'd want to go with someone who will promote her. I've never liked Azoff but I can't explain that dislike. But, I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope he treats Linda right. And hope that if he doesn't, Linda and John put a clause in the contracts allowing the rights to revert back to her. |
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Post by sliderocker on Mar 23, 2021 7:30:40 GMT -5
Let’s hope it means some new releases ! Can’t wait to see what becomes of this I would hope it does, but I wouldn't bet on it being released in the form of a CD or vinyl album. At least not right away. Capitol acquired the Bee Gees catalog from Barry Gibb and the estates of his brothers, but like Reprise before, nothing has been done with the catalog. The Gibb family moved the catalog from Reprise because they did nothing beyond reissuing the first four albums by the Bee Gees and compiling their mid-70s albums on one cheap set. And Capitol hasn't done anything with their catalog. Digital downloading and streaming may be the best way if there are unreleased tracks to be heard by Linda. And surely there are. |
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Post by fabtastique on Mar 23, 2021 7:32:10 GMT -5
ANYTHING will do at the moment! 😉
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Post by eddiejinnj on Mar 23, 2021 13:13:46 GMT -5
Hey Alyn: Where you been bloke? We missed ya!!!! Well, especially the f-bomb being used in Linda's name as if it is her middle name. It's just a form of odd respect one uses talking to friends not in professional journalism. Hopefully, they will start doing projects/releases right out of the gate and we will worry less about the deal (though technically it is Linda's catalog and life but we all want the best for her). eddiejinfl
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Post by RobGNYC on Mar 23, 2021 13:29:07 GMT -5
On "Linda F. Ronstadt," agree that it's become a form of respect. I heard a story about a guy who was waiting in line for a taping at 30 Rock and Barbra Streisand walked by. He said to his friend "that's Barbra F---ing" Streisand." She turned around and said "finally, someone got my name right."
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Post by erik on Mar 23, 2021 18:00:11 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker re. Irving Azoff:
I think it's because he has never known to be easy with the moneymen who run the labels and who siphon off royalty money from the talent, and that rubs some people the wrong way. He is, to some of these people, Satan, but, in Don Henley's own words with respect to his stewardship of the Eagles, "he's our Satan." And it does seem like he has looked out for the Eagles--a total contrast to one Colonel Tom Parker, who shafted his one and only client with mediocre B-grade movies in the 1960's, and too much touring and too much Las Vegas in the 1970's.
I don't think Linda would have ever sold her catalog to Azoff if she hadn't known him for as long as she has, and vice versa. And I think Azoff knows that Linda, even if she isn't the most technically savvy person on earth, is still very cagey and intelligent.
Watch this space.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 18:53:46 GMT -5
Need to have my own copies of Linda, not downloaded stuff interweb & OS dependent etc.
I do enjoy free music online but as tasters for what I buy on disc. Immediate acquisition is the only time I break my rule.
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Post by 70smusicfan on Mar 23, 2021 19:13:21 GMT -5
One thing I hope they do right away - The What's New concert has NEVER been issued on DVD, and I don't even know where my VHS is.
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Post by sliderocker on Mar 23, 2021 23:08:27 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker re. Irving Azoff: I think it's because he has never known to be easy with the moneymen who run the labels and who siphon off royalty money from the talent, and that rubs some people the wrong way. He is, to some of these people, Satan, but, in Don Henley's own words with respect to his stewardship of the Eagles, "he's our Satan." And it does seem like he has looked out for the Eagles--a total contrast to one Colonel Tom Parker, who shafted his one and only client with mediocre B-grade movies in the 1960's, and too much touring and too much Las Vegas in the 1970's. I don't think Linda would have ever sold her catalog to Azoff if she hadn't known him for as long as she has, and vice versa. And I think Azoff knows that Linda, even if she isn't the most technically savvy person on earth, is still very cagey and intelligent. Watch this space. I know the reason David Crosby sold his catalog was because with his music (and the music of all the other artists) being played on Youtube, he had a complaint that he was not getting a fair royalty from Youtube for the music being played. I think artists get a royalty that's less than a penny, if I remember rightly. And Crosby's argument is one I can agree with.He's not being paid very much. Linda has some Youtube airplays that are in the millions and by the time you add the airplay and how much money they pay her, it's probably not very much money. Downloads and streaming usually give artists half of the money, which is a much better royalty. But, if a download of Linda's has only sold 500,000 downloads at $1.29 per download, Linda's royalty would be $322,500. Pretty nice payday. 500,000 views on Youtube. The artist royalty supposedly works out to .00175, meaning Linda would get $875. Youtube charges $2.75 to $9.00 per thousand views (in payouts) and takes 45% to pay to the copyright holder. Videos must also be viewed for a certain period of time before the party starts getting paid. It's claimed Youtube royalties are on par with record royalties, but I'm sorry. I just don't buy it. I have to think if an artist has a million selling album released by the record company, his or or her or their record company is going to pay them royalties which may exceed a million dollars. I'm not one to buy the argument "Your artist royalty rate is only .00175, so therefore you and your band have earned $1750, less your manager commissions. Enjoy your money!" IMHO, record companies have simply found another way to screw around on the royalties they should be paying artists. And there's no doubt they are in collusion with Youtube. So, the artists have to sell their catalogues. How sad. |
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Post by rick on Mar 24, 2021 0:20:46 GMT -5
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Post by alyn on Mar 24, 2021 10:43:59 GMT -5
Hey Alyn: Where you been bloke? We missed ya!!!! Well, especially the f-bomb being used in Linda's name as if it is her middle name. It's just a form of odd respect one uses talking to friends not in professional journalism. Hopefully, they will start doing projects/releases right out of the gate and we will worry less about the deal (though technically it is Linda's catalog and life but we all want the best for her). eddiejinfl Eeyup Eddie all well over here in the land of Boris The Joke thank you :-) Yeah I kind of get that with the expletive middle name.... I do. I shouldn't be so old fashioned.... I clearly have double standards though as I remember laughing out loud at Linda's outburst on the live FM show from My Father's Place in 1974 where she states that she was told not to use the words 'sh*t, f*ck or brassiere'... I just listened again as I couldn't remember the exact show, and it is a Quality Moment, the band's reaction behind her is great :-) All well with you Eduardo?
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Post by fabtastique on Mar 26, 2021 12:12:08 GMT -5
I hope we get some special editions with unreleased tracks ... even cleaned up versions of the ones we know / have already such as :
- Every Little Bit Hurts, I'm Restless, alt version of Trouble Again which I think were all intended for CLARHLTW
- Price Of Love from Get Closer
- Lago Azul
- The Man I Love recorded for the TV show The Young Indiana Chronicles
- Someday My Prince Will Come from Snow White & 7 Dwarfs
- Telling Me Lies - solo version from Trio
That would do for a start !
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Post by Richard W on Apr 8, 2021 8:24:27 GMT -5
Did anyone else read about this?
It was in the Chicago Tribume last week. This is from Rolling Stone:
Following deals with the Beach Boys and David Crosby, Linda Ronstadt is the latest artist to sell her catalog to Irving Azoff’s new company Iconic Artists Group.
Although Ronstadt is one of the best-selling artists of all time, the fact that she’s not a songwriter makes her deal different from the Beach Boys, who sold a controlling interest in their intellectual property, and from David Crosby, whose deal contained his publishing rights. Instead, Iconic has acquired Ronstadt’s assets, in a sale that includes name and likeness to promote the masters.
Iconic’s partnership with Ronstadt, her longtime manager John Boylan, and personal assistant Janet Stark will aim to preserve her legacy in the digital era — including working with streaming services and social media, rolling out reissues, focusing on anniversaries, and more.
The company announced the signing on Monday morning, during Women’s History Month and shortly after Ronstadt’s documentary The Sound of My Voice won a Grammy for Best Music Film. In the fall of 2022, she’ll release Feels Like Home: A Song for the Sonoran Borderlands, a book honoring her Mexican roots.
Azoff released a heartfelt statement about signing Ronstadt, who famously hired Don Henley and Glenn Frey as her backing band, leading them to form the Eagles in the early Seventies.
“In 1972 when I arrived in Los Angeles to pursue my dreams in the music business, as fate would have it, I soon thereafter became best friends and manager to Glenn Frey and Don Henley,” Azoff telling Rolling Stone. “Without Linda Ronstadt and John Boylan, there would have never been an Eagles. We were friends and family and grew up together, and what a ride it has been. The countless tours together with the Eagles and Linda and their collaborations are the backbone of the history of Southern California music.”
“For Linda and John to entrust us with the honor of furthering her work is one of the most satisfying moments of my career,” he continued. “Linda’s talent is unparalleled, but her courage and commitment to make important music of many genres is her legacy. We will preserve that legacy for her at all costs. Thank you, Linda and John. We won’t let you down.”
Added Ronstadt: “I’m very pleased about this partnership. It’s extremely gratifying to be in the company of Irving Azoff, his team, and his family of great artists, many of whom have been my friends and colleagues for years. It feels like home.”
Beth Collins and Susan Genco, co-presidents of the Azoff Company, spoke with Rolling Stone about the deal and Ronstadt’s role as a woman trailblazer.
“For someone who was so massively successful and could have exploited her power, she never forced anyone to give her publishing on songs, which she easily could have done,” Genco says. “It was really important to us that legacy to be preserved, especially as two women in the business. Beth and I both have teenage daughters and they need to know about Linda Ronstadt. They need to understand the barriers that she broke in addition to the beautiful songs that she brought to people. She was the Taylor Swift of her time.”
“There’s a lot of interest in publishing assets right now in songs and compositions,” she added. “Anyone who would have looked at Linda Ronstadt and said, ‘We’re not interested in that deal because it doesn’t include publishing,’ wouldn’t be the right home. We look at it and say, ‘It’s Linda fucking Ronstadt.’ For her to let us come in and help her, it says a lot. And we don’t take that trust lightly.”
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Post by erik on Apr 8, 2021 8:31:37 GMT -5
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Post by Richard W on Apr 8, 2021 9:23:12 GMT -5
Thanks, Erik. I should have known it would already have a thread here! |
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Post by eddiejinnj on Apr 8, 2021 10:27:30 GMT -5
Hey, Rich, how r you? eddiejinfl?
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Post by fabtastique on Jun 1, 2021 0:12:16 GMT -5
Was hoping something might have happened under this deal by now ….
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