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Post by the Scribe on Jun 27, 2017 1:03:34 GMT -5
I thought this was made for her:
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and this one for Ruthmary and Gilbert
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Post by Mr. Kaplamsky on Jun 27, 2017 6:25:22 GMT -5
I Need Love by Nona Hendryx
People In Love by Lulu
Geen Birds Fly by Melba Moore
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Post by erik on Jun 27, 2017 8:52:07 GMT -5
"Do You Know Who I Am?" (written by Bobby Russell, and recorded by Elvis during his 1969 Memphis sessions with Chips Moman)
"Without Love (There Is Nothing)" (R&B standard first recorded by Clyde McPhatter in 1957, and since done by, among others, Elvis, Ray Charles, and Tom Jones)
"Wasted Time"; "I Can't Tell You Why" (done by Linda's favorite in-house desperadoes)
"Wild Horses" (yes, the Rolling Stones song that she wanted but knew she wasn't going to get back in 1970)
"Crazy Love" (Poco)
...and that's just for starters, folks.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jun 27, 2017 10:20:59 GMT -5
"In My Life" "The Shoop Shoop Song" I agree with Erik re: "Wild Horses". It would have been great because of her passion to do the song. "One Step Up" "My Heart Will Go On" "Beautiful Child"
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Post by markm on Jun 27, 2017 11:14:47 GMT -5
Which Way to Nowhere (Webb) Boats Against the Current (Carmen) Ask the Lonely (Holland-Dozier-Holland)
And with Aaron Neville: Sometimes Love Forgets (recorded by Phoebe Snow and Steve Goodman) I suggested this to Linda when we spoke once - and she wrote it down on a piece of paper and put it in her purse. :-)
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 27, 2017 11:19:04 GMT -5
"Burning Bridges" - written and recorded by Walter Scott - also recorded by Glen Campbell, who also had a modest hit with the song.
"Baby Don't Get Hooked on Me" - Mac Davis' hit
"Sweetheart" - country-styled song written by Barry and Maurice Gibb and released by them as the Bee Gees
"Sunshine" - the 1971 hit by Jonathan Edwards
"And the Grass Won't Pay No Mind" -Linda sang a snippet of this song on the Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour with Glen and Neil Diamond. She did a lovely version and should've recorded it properly.
"A Stranger in My Place" - written by Kenny Rogers but credited to him and First Edition member Kin Vassy (for the arrangement). Anne Murray recorded the song and had a hit with it, but I believe Linda could've done a better job.
"Rhythm of the Rain" - I don't think there's any version of the Cascades hit sung by a female performer. Would be interesting to hear if there is.
"Loving You" - the Elvis hit
"Jump into the Fire" - always loved this Harry Nilsson song and Linda could've shown off her rock vocal chops and had little bit of fun with this fun tune.
"Lover's Cross" - Linda singing Jim Croce's tune perhaps would've been one of the most ironic songs she could've recorded, given the relationships she had that didn't work out.
"It's a Matter of Time" - the B-side of Elvis' hit "Burning Love" was a song written specifically for Elvis by Clive Westlake. The song would've been right up Linda's country road.
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Post by Dianna on Jun 27, 2017 12:54:09 GMT -5
wow.. just off the top of my head:
My Baby thinks he's a train- Roseanne Cash
Why Not Me-The Judds
Queen of Hearts- Juice Newton
When hearing these songs, I always imagine Linda's vocals
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Post by JazzFusion/Pop Spin-off to AOR on Jun 27, 2017 14:48:18 GMT -5
There was a sideband of Stewart Copeland (Police), Stanley Clarke, and Deborah Holland (she has/had a band with Wendy Waldman). I think any of their songs - which featured Deborah's vocals (even though the two gentleman, particularly Stanley Clarke, are world-class musicians) - would have been great material for Linda's voice.
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 27, 2017 14:49:33 GMT -5
And with Aaron Neville: Sometimes Love Forgets (recorded by Phoebe Snow and Steve Goodman) I suggested this to Linda when we spoke once - and she wrote it down on a piece of paper and put it in her purse. :-) Wonder if Linda ever got around to recording the song and it remains unreleased? As I mentioned in my group of songs, I would've suggested Linda record the Jonathan Edwards song "Sunshine" because I think she could've related to the lyric "he can't even run his own life/I'll be damned if he runs mine" in the song's chorus. Because Jonathan's hit was acoustically driven by guitars, I would also have suggested a Linda version be driven by electric guitars. Just to have made it different from Jonathan's hit. (When I think of the songs I wished Linda had recorded, I also think of how I would've liked her to have recorded them too.)
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Post by Mr. Kaplansky on Jun 27, 2017 16:21:27 GMT -5
I Dont Know How To Lovre Him by Helen Reddy
Lazy Afternoon by Barbra Streisand
Spring Can Really Hang You Up The Most by Bette Midler
Here Comes The Flood by Bette Midler
Which Way To Main Street by Wendy Waldman
Sweet Harmony by Maria Muldaur
That Man Is My Weakness by Rita Coolidge
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Post by erik on Jun 27, 2017 18:25:19 GMT -5
With respect to the Stones' "Wild Horses"--Linda did mention it in her memoir that she really wanted the song, but, after Gram Parsons apparently did some, how shall we say, a**-kissing with Keith Richards, the song went instead to Gram and his Flying Burrito Brothers, who recorded it on their album Burrito Deluxe in 1970 (a whole year before it ever appeared in the Stones' version on Sticky Fingers). Linda may have subliminally known she wasn't going to get it, but its C&W/rock feel and lyrics would have been very appropriate for her at that time.
Another song worthy of consideration is "Hurt". And no, it's not the Nine Inch Nails record that Johnny Cash recorded near the end of his life. This is an R&B song written by Jimmie Crane and Al Jacobs back in 1954, making it kind of an early rock ballad, which became a big R&B hit for the legendary Roy Hamilton that year, then a big Top Ten hit for Timi Yuro in 1961, and then a #28 hit for The King in May 1976. As Linda had a penchant for passion and poignancy over her entire career span, regardless of genre, I would have loved to have seen her take on this song.
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Post by markm on Jun 28, 2017 9:53:26 GMT -5
sliderocker: Wonder if Linda ever got around to recording the song and it remains unreleased?
That was in 2005, so I doubt it. It would have been a great duet for them, though. And she lit up when I told her that Snow and Goodman had recorded it.
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jun 28, 2017 10:16:07 GMT -5
I forgot about that song "Sunshine". I loved it. Radio played it a lot when I was a kid. I think we used to sing it in chorus in school. It is weird with "Wild Horses" in that Linda could have recorded it in her career if she wanted. At first, I think out of respect for Gram/musicianship she let them record it and probably didn't want 2 versions out at the same time. After that maybe out of respect to Gram's memory she didn't record it. eddiejinnj
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 28, 2017 13:25:37 GMT -5
Linda herself has a long list of songs she wished she recorded. Unlike those on our list they seemed to be more in the tradition of the American Songbook. That being said we are very lucky to have the rich catalog of songs we've got. Kind of amazing actually. We are the lucky fans compared to other fans of different singers.
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Post by PoP80 on Jun 28, 2017 14:40:49 GMT -5
True that!! I can think of many songs that she would have slayed, but she has her own personal taste about the material that she chooses. She has such a vast body of work and there's something for everyone. Not many artists endure for that length of time, especially maintaining such high quality vocal ability and impeccable musical vocabulary.
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Post by erik on Jun 28, 2017 18:32:06 GMT -5
Quote by eddieinnj re. "Wild Horses":
Well, she respected Gram up to a point. But she does recount in her memoir being at an all-night jam session with Gram, Keith, and Bernie Leadon; and after Bernie left, she was left in the dress she wore on Playboy After Dark, this was in October 1969, asking Gram for a ride home, which would have been on a motorbike. In the shape he was in that night, loaded on marijuana and pills, had he actually tried to take her home on that motorbike, it's all too possible that he would have crashed it, and probably killed both himself and Linda right then and there. Linda certainly admired Gram's musical acumen, but she also clearly wasn't a fan of how he comported himself; and she vowed never to take in one of these all-night jams without her own ride.
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 28, 2017 18:59:25 GMT -5
sliderocker: Wonder if Linda ever got around to recording the song and it remains unreleased? That was in 2005, so I doubt it. It would have been a great duet for them, though. And she lit up when I told her that Snow and Goodman had recorded it. Pity. I'm guessing that was about the time she was recording with Ann Savoy, and it's kind of surprising she didn't contact and record the tune with him as he was based out of New Orleans, I believe. Would've made a great one off or bonus tune for "Adieu, False Heart."
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jun 28, 2017 19:15:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I read that too re: Gram and never not having a ride. I just think that she respected other musicians especially those she was close with/admired. She is not a "step on your toes" kind of person imo. Just the opposite in many ways. She really touted and worked hard in saying Raitt was not getting the recognition she deserved and was instrumental in getting Emmylou a record contract as I recall. eddiejinnj
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Post by sliderocker on Jun 28, 2017 19:31:42 GMT -5
Linda herself has a long list of songs she wished she recorded. Unlike those on our list they seemed to be more in the tradition of the American Songbook. That being said we are very lucky to have the rich catalog of songs we've got. Kind of amazing actually. We are the lucky fans compared to other fans of different singers. I've never seen her list. It would be curious to see what songs she would've recorded if she'd had the time. When it comes to the American songbook genre, I think that had to be a list compiled during the 80s when that genre was successful for her. I don't believe it would've been a list dating all the way back to the 60s or 70s, when she alternated between wanting to be a country singer and a rock singer. But, as much as I love that genre and Linda singing those songs, had to wonder if she was being discouraged by her record company and management from recording American songbook songs? Along the lines of been there and done that? While the albums were successful or appeared successful, maybe each American songbook album Linda released was less successful than the previous? Not in the sense the public could tell but in the way her record company could see that maybe the writing was on the wall for the songbook series. I've sometimes wondered if Linda would've recorded the songs she recorded if her various managers had worked on getting her more original material? Getting original material from the record company or setting up publishing companies on her behalf? Record companies used to have A&R departments that worked on finding good songs for artists to record if the artist didn't write at all or not much, or they didn't have their own publishing companies. Of course, I think Linda may not have liked the idea of recording original material but if I had been her manager, I would've stressed some of the songs she recorded had already been done thousands of times by other artists. Did those songs really need one more cover? But, always wished she'd had more access to original material and less of a reliance on songs everybody and their mother had already covered. Sometimes the songs she recorded were beneath her amazing talent, although by doing them, she elevated the songs and made them better than what they were.
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 28, 2017 23:37:11 GMT -5
I made a playlist on youtube of songs I believe to be originally recorded by Linda either as a solo artist or as a guest or duet. Once I find I am wrong I remove a song. I have struggled with the definition of "original" and "cover" and "remake." It seems the definitions have changed over the years.
Regarding the list I have taken some off and then put them back on as my information changes. For instance, I am almost sure Mr. Radio is original to the writer but secondhandsongs.com says it is original to her. I always thought their research was sound but not on this song.
secondhandsongs.com/artist/1626/originals#nav-entity
I have considered scrapping the "original" title and just going with "FIRST CHARTED" instead. In this case there would be many more to add to Linda's collection. I obviously can only include songs on this playlist that appear on youtube. Not all are on youtube.
All in all I believe it is fairly safe to say that Linda was the original artist on about 50 or so songs, give or take a few. If anyone has more to add to this list after doing your research or songs I should remove after doing your research please let me know. Thanks.
ronstadtfanaz Linda Ronstadt Originals playlist:
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUMq4sB5dsC8I6DOmcAhi_2uixQpRrwag
These are some of the definitions I am working with:
What is a cover?
A cover is a song that is performed by a performer different from the original performer. A cover must be published on a release.
The term "cover" goes back decades when cover version originally described a rival version of a tune recorded to compete with the recently released (original) version.
Cover versions (as the term is now used) are often contemporary versions of familiar songs.
In popular music, a cover version or cover song, or simply cover, is a new performance or recording of a previously recorded, commercially released song by someone other than the original artist or composer.
Defining the original
The original is defined as "the first public version" of a song, "public" being the key of the definition. In this sense, traditionals have no original. As a consequence we will create an original, with credits to "traditional", and without any performer.
An "original song" is one which is brand new, not copied from any other songs, and is a "one of a kind" creation. It might have lyrics, and it might not.
A mashup (also mesh, mash up, mash-up, blend, bootleg[1] and bastard pop/rock) is a song or composition created by blending two or more pre-recorded songs, usually by overlaying the vocal track of one song seamlessly over the instrumental track of another.[2] To the extent that such works are "transformative" of original content, in the United States they may find protection from copyright claims under the "fair use" doctrine of copyright law.
Remixes
Technically, all mashups are remixes. But while most are made up entirely of plundered material, some bootleggers have fused old a cappella tracks with completely new compositions of their own device.
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Post by vikingfan on Jun 29, 2017 15:35:03 GMT -5
Touch Your Soul-Phoebe Snow Tell Me Just One More Time-Jennifer Warnes Put Me on Top-Aimee Mann The Last Resort-Eagles Taking You Home-Don Henley Way of the Heart-Karla Bonoff On the Mend-Foo Fighters Don't Let it Bring You Down-Neil Young
So many more I can't think of right now...
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Post by erik on Jun 29, 2017 19:00:35 GMT -5
Oh hell, why don't I take this a step further?
Another song I've thought Linda would have done a good rendition of is "Long Black Limousine", which was written back in 1958 by Bobby George and Vern Stovall, and is a classic C&W narrative of a guy who remembers an ex of his who left their small town vowing to come home in a fancy car, which she does--except it's a hearse. A number of versions of this song are out there (strangely, none of them have ever been hits): Glen Campbell did this back in 1963; Merle Haggard in 1967; Jodi Miller in 1968; O.C. Smith in 1968; and Elvis (in Elvis' case, it was the first thing he recorded when he began working with Chips Moman at American Studios in January 1969). I've always thought of it as a perfect fit for Linda, whether she does it in a straight C&W fashion, or the R&B-influenced way that Elvis did it:
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Post by fabtastique on Jun 29, 2017 23:59:27 GMT -5
I really wish the long rumoured Jimmy Webb album would have materialised. His songs are wonderful and Linda sings them so well
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Post by erik on Jun 30, 2017 8:52:47 GMT -5
Quote by fabtastique:
I too wish she had gotten around to it. For all the static that Jimmy has gotten over the years, it's no accident that he's probably the most frequently covered songwriter of our time whose last name isn't either Lennon or McCartney. And both Linda and Glen Campbell are his supreme interpreters.
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Post by the Scribe on Jun 30, 2017 9:23:33 GMT -5
Quote by fabtastique: I too wish she had gotten around to it. For all the static that Jimmy has gotten over the years, it's no accident that he's probably the most frequently covered songwriter of our time whose last name isn't either Lennon or McCartney. And both Linda and Glen Campbell are his supreme interpreters.
I wonder if there is enough old material of Linda's and Jimmy's to put an album together? She did produce Suspending Disbelief and may have had a song or two that was shelved that she sang on with Jimmy. Plus we have The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Shattered, Still Within the Sound of My Voice, All I Know, Adios.... am I missing something obvious? Possibly do a Linda and Glen mash up on one of the songs.
There was also talk of an album with Aaron Neville and one with J D Souther which may have just been an album of her singing his songs but they did have some nice duets.
And there certainly is enough "orphan songs" live and studio to make a couple of complete albums. Just look at my duets and orphans playlists on youtube. Some really great stuff there i.e. Lion In The Winter, The Water Is Wide, The First Cut, Fill My Eyes, Under African Skies, Very Lovely Woman, Falling Star, Price of Love, The Man I Love, Dreams to Dream, Hearts Against The Wind, Walkin Down The Line, any number of Spanish songs, etc.
www.youtube.com/channel/UCozprmpaSDD21BvRVJj7q4g
John Boylan probably holds the key to any of this. He knows what is good and what isn't and what might work and what might not. There are clearly many songs "off album" that most people have no clue about.
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Post by erik on Jun 30, 2017 9:59:29 GMT -5
Quote by ronstadtfanaz:
I also think, though, that he would want to get Linda's blessing first. While I know Linda's right in being super-careful not to believe in all the good things that get said about you any more than you should about the bad things, I have always believe that she's far too hard on herself. While a lot of her early stuff is raw and unpolished, I still think there is as much value in that as there is in the later material that was delivered with the right sheen.
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Post by fabtastique on Jul 2, 2017 8:48:01 GMT -5
Also a Burt Bacharach collection would be wonderful - especially after the two tunes on Winter Light 👍🏻
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Post by suzannes on Jul 2, 2017 17:45:44 GMT -5
I agree Fabtastique! I loved her work on Winter Light; songs that I have always song before by Dusty Springfield and Dionne Warwick. I think that album is some of her best singing
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Post by hellenio3 on Jul 2, 2017 23:20:15 GMT -5
Great singer and stars.I love classic.
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Post by musedeva on Jul 3, 2017 1:37:20 GMT -5
did she ever work with any of Fleetwood Mac??? I don't think so...but I can hear her doing christines stuff
it would of been awesome to hear her added as lead on some of the selections here;
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