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Post by Richard W on May 5, 2015 14:00:03 GMT -5
If I had a tambourine thrown at me by Linda Ronstadt, after getting hit I would probably brag and tell everyone who listens, "I got hit by Linda Ronstadt!" Or, "I'm Linda Ronstadt's greatest hit!"
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 5, 2015 16:52:27 GMT -5
the second one I hate to admit is very funny (just cause the good adlib and play on words). one for rich lol!!!! I haven't chimed in on this but she and the others around where she threw it are too very lucky that nobody was seriously hurt. I mean the past is past but hopefully it was a learning experience. eddiejinnj
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Post by jay15206 on May 5, 2015 17:27:11 GMT -5
Why would anyone want to take pictures at a concert? I'm there to listen to music. It's so annoying to have to deal with morons and their cameras.
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Post by erik on May 5, 2015 17:35:03 GMT -5
Quote by jay15206:
Well, unfortunately some people at these concerts not only don't seem to give a hoot in hell about the singer or his/her music, they don't care about the rules either. Same with people yapping and yapping on their frigging cell phones.
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 5, 2015 18:04:56 GMT -5
well to be honest, imo, it is a cool way of getting a live pic of the best singer in the world. I mean with facebook (of which i am not a member but i have seen several people's pages) it seems everybody is putting in what they had for dinner and taking pic. i would want one of a legend that i went to see. now, whether it is the most considerate thing to do that is another story and one i take seriously based on in this case Linda's request. Wanting a picture of such a significant event in and of itself is something imo people would want for themselves. my first concert of Linda's, i did take some pics at Rutgers but it was a huge place and i was in back on floor. with cameras of that day i was probably the only one who could tell it was linda ronstadt. that was before i knew of her feelings re: pics. eddiejinnj
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Post by jay15206 on May 5, 2015 18:07:36 GMT -5
well to be honest, imo, it is a cool way of getting a live pic of the best singer in the world. I mean with facebook (of which i am not a member but i have seen several people's pages) it seems everybody is putting in what they had for dinner and taking pic. i would want one of a legend that i went to see. now, whether it is the most considerate thing to do that is another story and one i take seriously based on in this case Linda's request. Wanting a picture of such a significant event in and of itself is something imo people would want for themselves. my first concert of Linda's, i did take some pics at Rutgers but it was a huge place and i was in back on floor. with cameras of that day i was probably the only one who could tell it was linda ronstadt. that was before i knew of her feelings re: pics. eddiejinnj I stopped going to concerts because of people like you, Eddie.
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Post by moon on May 6, 2015 22:28:52 GMT -5
Whoa...I had forgotten about all of these incidents. I'm sure glad she never got that mad at me! I'm very tiny and if she punched me, I'd probably be in "groupie heaven" with multiple fractures. There's a fine line between being feisty and completely out of control--ouch!!!
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Post by moon on May 6, 2015 22:32:06 GMT -5
Whoa...I had forgotten about all of these incidents. I'm sure glad she never got that mad at me! I'm very tiny and if she punched me, I'd probably be in "groupie heaven" with multiple fractures. There's a fine line between being feisty and completely out of control--ouch!!!
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Post by moon on May 6, 2015 22:38:47 GMT -5
One of these days i will figure out how to reply to someone using their quote.
I wasnt advocating violence by liking that LR punched out obnoxious drunks. But i do like her fiesteness. What is she about 5'2? Makes for quite an imagine of her punching out some drunk.
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 7, 2015 6:38:45 GMT -5
jay,(people like you not a cool thing to say) I said I did it once. I was 17 yo. like some say here lots of artists allow pics. i said I take seriously when an artist asks that no pics be taken. I just said the impulse to do so is understandable. Moon, you just hit the quote button at top right. I don't really use it because especially if using a long post it just becomes repetitious. I know you were referring to me. I asked you to clarify that not because I believed you were advocating violence but at the same time I don't know you and am loyal to the forum and its decorum that's all. welcome to the forum, jay. it is great you have recently posted so much. eddiejinnj
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Post by linda on May 7, 2015 9:07:08 GMT -5
well to be honest, imo, it is a cool way of getting a live pic of the best singer in the world. I mean with facebook (of which i am not a member but i have seen several people's pages) it seems everybody is putting in what they had for dinner and taking pic. i would want one of a legend that i went to see. now, whether it is the most considerate thing to do that is another story and one i take seriously based on in this case Linda's request. Wanting a picture of such a significant event in and of itself is something imo people would want for themselves. my first concert of Linda's, i did take some pics at Rutgers but it was a huge place and i was in back on floor. with cameras of that day i was probably the only one who could tell it was linda ronstadt. that was before i knew of her feelings re: pics. eddiejinnj I stopped going to concerts because of people like you, Eddie. Jay, that's not very nice to address Eddie like that. People in this forum are a good bunch.
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Post by Dianna on May 7, 2015 22:35:00 GMT -5
I stopped going to concerts because of people like you, Eddie. People in this forum are a good bunch. I agree ...and what's with the snarky little attacks going on?. There are many regulars on this forum who have been commenting for years. as of late there have been several hit and run troll ish like remarks from out of nowhere.. am I wrong? Maybe a little more respect?
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Post by jay15206 on May 7, 2015 22:45:06 GMT -5
People in this forum are a good bunch. I agree ...and what's with the snarky little attacks going on?. There are many regulars on this forum who have been commenting for years. as of late there have been several hit and run troll ish like remarks from out of nowhere.. am I wrong? Maybe a little more respect? I don't see what I said wrong. It is nothing but the truth that I stopped going to concerts because of the picture takers. If you take pictures at concerts, you are a reason I don't go to concerts. Why is it wrong to say this? We were talking about people who annoy Linda at concerts, including photographers. I'm not Linda, obviously, but I completely agree with her. There is no reason for a concertgoer to bring a camera to a concert.
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Post by Dianna on May 7, 2015 22:53:22 GMT -5
Jay think for a moment of how you wrote what you did to eddie. "It's people like you" ect ect. It was a rude comment. IMO there are other ways you could have got your point across without sounding rude or discourteous. but whatever.
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Post by Tony on May 7, 2015 23:17:33 GMT -5
"I quit going to concerts because people taking pictures annoyed the hell out of me." That would be one way of expressing yourself without insulting another member of the forum.
As for myself, I find other things more annoying. Chatterboxes. People who arrive late. (This was a problem at the Mellencamp concert I attended last month. I went mainly to enjoy the opening act, Carlene Carter. And people kept pouring in and getting in front of me while she was doing her solo set.) People who can't stay in their seat. (I made the mistake of getting floor seats for Mellencamp and everyone thinks they should stand up the whole time. I would have enjoyed the concert more if I had the foresight to purchase front row balcony seats.)
Picture taking not so much an issue at an outdoor concert or festival type show. It can be annoying in a theater, but I've never found it to be as big an issue as chatterboxes, latecomers, and standers.
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Post by Dianna on May 7, 2015 23:40:56 GMT -5
Or.. people next to you smoking weed.. LOL. I'll never forget. my very first concert back in 1980 at the Forum in Los Angeles (Linda Ronstadt) I went with my mom, aunt and uncle but I sat apart from them with my best friend.. the kids in front of us reeked of pot.. at an indoor venue no less.. LOL
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Post by Guest on May 8, 2015 0:09:05 GMT -5
I can see why a flash would be annoying but not a non-flash or video camera. At one time Linda took time out for people to take their photos and said please no more after this. People go for different reasons (to concerts) including for photos and videos as a keepsake. Most are not trying to sell them, just for private use.
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Post by simpledream on May 8, 2015 0:21:45 GMT -5
during the last eagles concert in Australia, the band banned iphones, cameras, ipads ... what a joy ... have been at concerts in recent years sitting near people who spend the entire concert filming with ipads - a big distraction to audience members let alone the performers. what's the point?
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Post by Guest on May 8, 2015 4:13:45 GMT -5
I can see their point but I can see yours too, especially if they get in your way or it is continuous. I personally don't like crowds of noisy, crazy, rude, drunk people which happens in large venues without fail. Not even for Linda. If you buy a ticket for something like that you must expect the atmosphere or be pleasantly surprised when it turns out otherwise. Don't see the point of going to something like that.
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 8, 2015 7:06:19 GMT -5
there are times depending on the concert where you get to see or meet the artist even Linda afterward as in the case of the book tours etc. what about artists that don't mind and it is a daytime concert. people are taking pics with their phones etc.. I am not a big camera buff so AGAIN this does not apply to me other than a naïve 17 yo who went to his first concert and I got there like noon to see if we could see Linda going in. we saw her bus outside the big Rutgers hall where she played. we were sooooo excited. Anyway, it all good. eddiejinnj
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Post by Richard W on May 8, 2015 8:19:07 GMT -5
There's this entire culture now that feels compelled to document everything. Just look at recent concert footage from any act and you'll see the majority of the audience with their smart phones in the air.
When you are filming, you are not in the moment. You are more concerned with documenting the performance and less with experiencing it.
Leave the damn phones in your pocket and enjoy the show.
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Post by moe on May 8, 2015 8:25:09 GMT -5
People in this forum are a good bunch. I agree ...and what's with the snarky little attacks going on?. There are many regulars on this forum who have been commenting for years. as of late there have been several hit and run troll ish like remarks from out of nowhere.. am I wrong? Maybe a little more respect? Dianna, you are correct in your assesment, I've noticed it too. Even thought I don't participate in other forums I have the feeling that, unlike here, rudeness and going for snark/shock are valued elsewhere. I certainly noticed that on YouTube it seems there is a direct correlation between the number of comments and the corrosive nature of the comments. I also think that there is a correlation between being a fan of Linda and a more reserved approach to discourse that is for the most part demomstrated here. I would suggest that we all (members and guests) put away the ad-hominim attacks and stick to arguing ideas. The only reason to make a personal attack is that you have no rational argument to put forth. I would like to comment that the one person in the war room which you may be refering to turned out to be an ok sort once given a chance. Finally, once again great avatar!
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Post by erik on May 8, 2015 9:23:56 GMT -5
Quote by moe:
I tend to think there isn't much in the way of policing on YouTube, which is how attacks get posted with depressing regularity. Some might say that us moderators here, myself included, are a little bit too tolerant of attacks. That is probably true, but only as far as it goes. When I do see some kind of smear here, I respond in kind without becoming like the one doing the attacking.
In terms of Linda, of course, it would be easy to go into Taylor Swift mode and say "Haters gonna hate, hate, hate", but, as everyone here knows, I find that a terribly juvenile thing to say. I just use the quote that Memphis DJ George Klein was known to say about a good friend of his: "If you're a fan, no explanation is necessary. If you're not, no explanation is possible." (the good friend Klein was referring to, by the way, was one Elvis Aaron Presley).
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Post by Dianna on May 8, 2015 12:02:20 GMT -5
Finally, once again great avatar! Thanks Moe.. I picked this avatar because it looks like Linda is channeling Sophia Loren or Disney's Esmeralda from Hunchback of Nortre Dame. She has so many looks!
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Post by Dianna on May 8, 2015 13:21:09 GMT -5
Quote by moe: I tend to think there isn't much in the way of policing on YouTube, which is how attacks get posted with depressing regularity. Some might say that us moderators here, myself included, are a little bit too tolerant of attacks. That is probably true, but only as far as it goes. When I do see some kind of smear here, I respond in kind without becoming like the one doing the attacking. In terms of Linda, of course, it would be easy to go into Taylor Swift mode nds say " Haters gonna hate, hate, hate", but, as everyone here knows, I find that a terribly juvenile thing to say. I just use the quote that Memphis DJ George Klein was known to say about a good friend of his: " If you're a fan, no explanation is necessary. If you're not, no explanation is possible." (the good friend Klein was referring to, by the way, was one Elvis Aaron Presley). Well on youtube you will find a lot of hit and run offenders.. people think they can unload their hate and say whatever they want to I know I have many times. lol. but I really shouldn't.. we treat it like we do someone who has cut us off while driving.. give them the finger and yell something obscene. lol. guilty! This forum people have been coming for years. we wouldn't tell our co workers to F off or a neighbor we see every day it's common courtesy. but I agree it should be used at all times. not just familiar places. .
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Post by moe on May 8, 2015 15:44:18 GMT -5
Quote by moe: I tend to think there isn't much in the way of policing on YouTube, which is how attacks get posted with depressing regularity. Some might say that us moderators here, myself included, are a little bit too tolerant of attacks. That is probably true, but only as far as it goes. When I do see some kind of smear here, I respond in kind without becoming like the one doing the attacking. In terms of Linda, of course, it would be easy to go into Taylor Swift mode nds say " Haters gonna hate, hate, hate", but, as everyone here knows, I find that a terribly juvenile thing to say. I just use the quote that Memphis DJ George Klein was known to say about a good friend of his: " If you're a fan, no explanation is necessary. If you're not, no explanation is possible." (the good friend Klein was referring to, by the way, was one Elvis Aaron Presley). Well on youtube you will find a lot of hit and run offenders.. people think they can unload their hate and say whatever they want to I know I have many times. lol. but I really shouldn't.. we treat it like we do someone who has cut us off while driving.. give them the finger and yell something obscene. lol. guilty! This forum people have been coming for years. we wouldn't tell our co workers to F off or a neighbor we see every day it's common courtesy. but I agree it should be used at all times. not just familiar places. . Sometimes ignorance keeps me out of trouble-if I knew how to comment on you-tube I'd probably be a hit and run bomber too-anonymity can be a potent drug which reinforces your flying bird point Dianna
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Post by philly on May 8, 2015 16:23:49 GMT -5
In 2010 there was a youtube video of Linda's 1977 Atlanta performance of Blue Bayou, near the top was the comment "She's a junkie" Linda's son, who I've never seen commenting on her videos shot back "I know for a fact she's not!" That video was taken down or removed some months later. I think a lot of people who post videos aren't aware they can either block or screen comments. I haven't felt the need to do that on my YT channel. Only had to delete a few that were so dumb I was probably doing the hater a favor by hiding their lameness. I mean, another crack about weight and the cheesecake factory? Sheeeesh!
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Post by ausfan2 on May 31, 2015 2:40:32 GMT -5
This quote from a May 11, 1995 article by Jonathan Takiff (Knight Ridder/Tribune News Service) sums up Linda's approach to music:
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Post by PoP80 on May 31, 2015 8:40:55 GMT -5
Well, she was able to accomplish that and stay true to her roots. Viva Linda!
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Post by sliderocker on May 31, 2015 9:32:29 GMT -5
In 2010 there was a youtube video of Linda's 1977 Atlanta performance of Blue Bayou, near the top was the comment "She's a junkie" Linda's son, who I've never seen commenting on her videos shot back "I know for a fact she's not!" That video was taken down or removed some months later. I think a lot of people who post videos aren't aware they can either block or screen comments. I haven't felt the need to do that on my YT channel. Only had to delete a few that were so dumb I was probably doing the hater a favor by hiding their lameness. I mean, another crack about weight and the cheesecake factory? Sheeeesh! I don't post negative comments about the artists or their songs on youtube. That comment about Linda, "She's a junkie" was an irresponsible comment. What has saddened me about youtube is seeing the number of people making nasty comments about the artists. I did read another comment on Linda by someone who said they knew her and who had called her fat and who said she was very sick. I wondered about who that person was because the comment was from around 2010 or 2011, and thought it wasn't their place to disclose personal problems or to make such a hurtful comment about Linda's weight. I couldn't imagine that person being a friend of Linda's unless that friendship was over and the person was still angry about it. Maybe the wedge had been Linda's weight and health problems and that person had tried to talk to her about it and she shut them down? But, why post a personal attack on youtube on one of her videos, since she said she never watches them? Still, artists may be watching and reading themselves, curious about what videos exist, both professional and amateur. In fact, I know of one female singer who came across a video someone had made of her most famous hit song and she responded to some of the comments. Wasn't Linda, but unless a performer tips their hand or someone knows them personally to know they don't do it, one never knows. One might be in the presence of the performer and never even know it. Linda said she doesn't watch any of her videos but if she did, I think she'd be more curious about what people have to say about her than anything else, which is why I think she could be even here, lurking on this list, seeing what the fans have to say but not actively participating. But, if we knew she was here, we might ruin it for her by then asking her too many questions instead of us discussing her and her music.
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