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Post by philly on Jan 17, 2013 17:18:55 GMT -5
"I grew up about twenty miles outside Tucson, and at the time there wasn't a soul in sight. We lived on a dirt road with ten acres around us. I didn't go to kindergarten, so the first grade was a hell of a shock, because I didn't know any people that weren't related to me. So I was a loner. I've been this way ever since three. I find that a lot of people I know in the entertainment world like humanity in general but don't love individuals. I'm exactly the opposite. I think humanity is kind of horrendous but that some individuals are really nice. Basically, I like zebras better than humans," she says. I can't recall where I read it, but wasn't there an interview where she said her family were kind of nudists at home, being so isolated?
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 17, 2013 17:52:48 GMT -5
"I grew up about twenty miles outside Tucson, and at the time there wasn't a soul in sight. We lived on a dirt road with ten acres around us. I didn't go to kindergarten, so the first grade was a hell of a shock, because I didn't know any people that weren't related to me. So I was a loner. I've been this way ever since three. I find that a lot of people I know in the entertainment world like humanity in general but don't love individuals. I'm exactly the opposite. I think humanity is kind of horrendous but that some individuals are really nice. Basically, I like zebras better than humans," she says. I can't recall where I read it, but wasn't there an interview where she said her family were kind of nudists at home, being so isolated? That's a new one on me!
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Post by eddiejinnj on Jan 17, 2013 18:19:09 GMT -5
never heard the nudist one. eddiejinnj
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Post by musicaamator on Jan 17, 2013 20:55:20 GMT -5
i believe we discussed that linda is now on the internet and does look at youtube. anything, i have seen her write or speak based on something she wrote has always been well thought out. i think that she would have to gather a lot of info and really outline and organize the material. it could be quite a task but as far as us fans, we surely will appreciate it. eddiejinnj Nice to know that she is connected to the web and it floors me to know that she does youtube too. Of her clips available on YT, the quotes have all been pretty much positive and good, particularly of how she looked back then. But who wouldn't be smitten by her?
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Post by Dianna on Jan 18, 2013 3:24:30 GMT -5
[/quote] I can't recall where I read it, but wasn't there an interview where she said her family were kind of nudists at home, being so isolated?[/quote]
That's funny, never heard of that one either. Can you blame them considering Tucson in the summertime!
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Post by MokyWI on Jan 18, 2013 14:19:10 GMT -5
I would have to see the nudist quote to believe it. My first thought was, if she did in fact say such a thing, it would have been in relation to the intense heat in Tucson during the summer months. I would bet money on this quote not being real. Prove it by giving a link to it. There is very little I have not read when it comes to articles and interviews, and I have never read anything like that. She came from a very catholic family and coming from one myself I know the shame that comes with that religion. Show me the money...I am from Missouri, the show me state.
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Post by Dianna on Jan 18, 2013 15:46:26 GMT -5
I would have to see the nudist quote to believe it. My first thought was, if she did in fact say such a thing, it would have been in relation to the intense heat in Tucson during the summer months. I would bet money on this quote not being real. Prove it by giving a link to it. There is very little I have not read when it comes to articles and interviews, and I have never read anything like that. She came from a very catholic family and coming from one myself I know the shame that comes with that religion. Show me the money...I am from Missouri, the show me state. I know.. news to us here. I came from a catholic family too.. my mother is pretty conservative/modest and my dad was more liberal for his times I suppose.. it was more of a oblivious thing with my father tho.. one incident, he thought thieves during middle of the night had stolen his car.. turns out it was one of my brothers going on a joyride.. Story goes my dad ran out of the house naked to claim his car then he drove it back naked. lol.
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 18, 2013 15:48:20 GMT -5
I would have to see the nudist quote to believe it. My first thought was, if she did in fact say such a thing, it would have been in relation to the intense heat in Tucson during the summer months. I would bet money on this quote not being real. Prove it by giving a link to it. There is very little I have not read when it comes to articles and interviews, and I have never read anything like that. She came from a very catholic family and coming from one myself I know the shame that comes with that religion. Show me the money...I am from Missouri, the show me state. I've kind of got my doubts as well, Mike, although I think it possible Linda did say it. But, I also think she could've been pulling the writer's leg or was just getting annoyed with the questions she was being asked like she was in the October 1985 Esquire article where the writer was asking her about "Long, Long Time." Linda also talked to Rolling Stone in the 80s where she seemed to be angry and annoyed with an interviewer. I sometimes wondered if Linda was burned out on doing interviews or if she was like ABBA's Agnetha Faltskog, who did not like being asked certain type of questions? Faltskog mentioned two such questions, one being what was her favorite color(?), the other being what did she do on an ordinary Sunday(?). I could see her point on the first question - it's a kiddie question you're asking of an adult, which is kind of ridiculous to be asking an adult. The other question, I think, was more like what do you do on the rare moments when you have an off day? Maybe the writer asking such a question would've done better to have phrased it that way as the other way seems to imply that every day in Faltskog's life was an extrordinary day. As for Linda and nudity, I also recall that when she left home at 18, her dad allegedly said something to her about never appearing nude in any of the men's magazines. I recall that story being mentioned in conjunction with the story of Hustler magazine offering Linda three million dollars to be photographed in the nude. It's possible Linda's family could've been nudists if their ranch home were far enough away from neighbors and far enough away from highways and back roads where they couldn't be seen. In 1950s America, in Arizona, that would've been possible. But, if it did take place, it probably wasn't an everyday thing.
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 18, 2013 16:37:44 GMT -5
Linda was ahead of her time. If she was like most youth with good looks and a nice body she would have had naked photos taken (which could possibly turn up at some point). Photos in themselves are not bad. If it were a porn skit that would be something else. I would like copies of any photos.
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Post by 70smusicfan on Jan 18, 2013 17:02:02 GMT -5
I think you are all misremembering an article from the granddaddy website. As I remember, there was a quote somewhere that WHEN THEY WERE TODDLERS they SOMETIMES ran around the ranch without clothes as was typical in many Mexican families. I know a lot of uptight WASP families where little children sometimes do the same thing.
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Post by philly on Jan 18, 2013 18:19:15 GMT -5
I think you are all misremembering an article from the granddaddy website. As I remember, there was a quote somewhere that WHEN THEY WERE TODDLERS they SOMETIMES ran around the ranch without clothes as was typical in many Mexican families. I know a lot of uptight WASP families where little children sometimes do the same thing. Thanks. You're probably right, I've had no luck finding anything about it now. I figured someone here might have an idea about it. It was several years ago, and I was reading scores of articles about Linda at the time.
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Post by erik on Jan 18, 2013 18:42:41 GMT -5
Quote by sliderocker: It was actually in July 1995, but yes, the RS interviewer was clearly annoying the hell out of her, and asking her the kind of "Gotcha" questions that could make Linda really steamed: www.ronstadt-linda.com/artrs95.html
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Post by MokyWI on Jan 18, 2013 18:48:22 GMT -5
wasn't she offered one million not three million to pose for Hustler?
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Post by musicaamator on Jan 18, 2013 19:41:23 GMT -5
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Post by sliderocker on Jan 19, 2013 4:24:18 GMT -5
wasn't she offered one million not three million to pose for Hustler? I know musicamator has already posted the crappy pdf file showing Linda being offered a million, but I believe it was reported elsewhere that she was offered three million, It's possible Flynt initially offered a million but then upped the offer to three million, as that's the figure that has been stuck in my head all these years since the story was first reported way back when.
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 25, 2013 20:46:43 GMT -5
In the comic strip Peanuts, Snoopy walks up to Charlie Brown and his sister Sally, giving them each a great big hug. When he rests his head on their shoulders a little heart floats up into the air around them. In the last panel as Snoopy walks off smiling from ear to ear, Charlie Brown says to the puzzled Sally, "You can always tell when he's been listening to his Leo Buscaglia tapes."Do you think Linda is a hugger?
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Post by philly on Jan 26, 2013 3:20:52 GMT -5
In the comic strip Peanuts, Snoopy walks up to Charlie Brown and his sister Sally, giving them each a great big hug. When he rests his head on their shoulders a little heart floats up into the air around them. In the last panel as Snoopy walks off smiling from ear to ear, Charlie Brown says to the puzzled Sally, "You can always tell when he's been listening to his Leo Buscaglia tapes."Do you think Linda is a hugger? Sure. There was an interview in her home when little Mary would come over to Linda for hugs. Her kids probably could get a hug anytime they wanted one, unless she was holding something off the hot stove.
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Post by JasonKlose on Feb 4, 2013 22:21:03 GMT -5
My personal belief about whether Linda is religious or not: I think she is more spiritual than anything. I'm the same way.
I am a Christian and a member of a Lutheran church, but I have not attended church in quite a long time. For one, my job does not allow it; I have to work weekends. And second, my religious views have just changed in recent years. I don't like people putting their religion on me and trying to influence me in any way. I don't feel comfortable in church any more. I'm definitely more of a spiritual person, in how I live my life, how I treat other people, in my relationships with others.
I think Linda is the same way. When she recorded her Christmas album, she said she didn't have a religious bone in her body. I think she's a very caring person, in that she accepts all people and their beliefs and doesn't discriminate. There are so many different religions and beliefs; so who's to say which ones are right and which ones aren't?
This reminds me of another celebrity years ago. I remember watching a biography of Michael Landon on A&E in the late '90s, in fact I still have it on tape. Look at the good wholesome family shows he starred in and produced. "Little House on the Prairie" in particular mentioned God and preached religion quite often. His character was very religious an had very strong faith. But his good friend and co-star on "Little House," Merlin Olsen, said Michael was not that religious of a man, as far as attending church every Sunday. However, Merlin said that in the way Michael lived his life and how he treated people, he thought he was a very religious man. Also his show "Highway to Heaven": they said it wasn't so much about religion, but just doing the right thing. That I think summed it up perfectly.
Maybe I'm getting off the topic with Linda, but I think it's very similar to her beliefs.
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Post by the Scribe on Feb 4, 2013 22:36:13 GMT -5
If I had to guess I would say Linda may be more pantheistic than anything, kind of like Einstein was. My arguement with Einstein would be that past life evidence is so abundant and undeniable. Doing the right thing would be a great religion in itself and I am always surprised by people who are surprised that non-believers are capable of being good people. One only need to look at the history of the two or three major religions to see what a crock they are feeding people that easily buy into it.
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 6, 2013 15:28:33 GMT -5
If I had to guess I would say Linda may be more pantheistic than anything, kind of like Einstein was. My arguement with Einstein would be that past life evidence is so abundant and undeniable. Doing the right thing would be a great religion in itself and I am always surprised by people who are surprised that non-believers are capable of being good people. One only need to look at the history of the two or three major religions to see what a crock they are feeding people that easily buy into it. I'm a deist, which I guess is the same or almost the same as pantheism, yet I also believe in reincarnation. The belief in reincarnation doesn't preclude the existence of God (or Gods and Goddesses) as I don't know what force could be holding the universe together or even put it there in the first place. When it comes to religious - Christian - people believing that non-believers are capable of being good people, I don't think that's the exact take they have. It's the belief that if you don't believe like they believe, you're going to end up in hell for your non-belief. You can be a good soul allthrough your life, from birth to death, but if you don't acknowledge Jesus as your savior, you go to hell. My counterpoint to that is if true,we all stand before God in heaven on some far off judgement day, how will the Christian fanatic react when God lets a non-believer into heaven? Are they going to march up to God, incensed, that God has let in an undesirable and demand that person's removal? Would they froth at the mouth if they were one of the ones who spoke venomous hatred for Linda because of her political beliefs, and she's allowed to be closer to God than they are? And what if she's given charge over them? (Wait a minute, would that be hell?)My counterpoint to a Christian person is always that it's not God threatening to send me to hell for what I believe, but that Christian person. And, as I always tell them, they don't get a say as to who does and who doesn't go to heaven or to hell. God can just as easily admit a non-believer into heaven just as easily as he can send a Christian superfanatic to hell. The God they purport to believe in is the one who gets to make the call, yet way too many seem to believe they will get a say. Hopefully, they won't be disppointed if it's not what they hoped for or they have to reincarnate as cave dwellers on some supercold little dinky planet in the Alpha Centauri system.
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Post by the Scribe on Feb 6, 2013 19:36:02 GMT -5
I think once we're dead we are more likely to do what we are told.
All that crap from Earth falls away with the new world before us.
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 6, 2013 20:49:40 GMT -5
I think once we're dead we are more likely to do what we are told. All that crap from Earth falls away with the new world before us. I think we lose our clothing, all those things we had in life that made us who we were, and we put on new clothing for the next life. I think we'd all like to come back in a new and improved edition. I still question whether we have to come back we screwed up in a previous life or whether we come back because we want to come back. I tend to lean towards the latter because the old life will be forgotten once we are conscious and in the earthly plane again. Maybe our subconscious or astral mind (or whatever you want to call it) will remember the previous lives but if we can't remember a previous life when we have reincarnated, how can we right a wrong from a previous life? Still, I've also thought it possible if we are here again because of wrongs in a past life, are we here because of major wrongs or could a minor wrong trip us up and get us another Earth run? Or you had to come back because a wrong you didn't know you had committed in a previous life? But, getting back to the idea of losing the clothing or trappings of a previous life and getting this back to being Linda related, I sometimes wonder how could Linda or Elvis or any of the other celebrities ever have a better life than what they had during their run during their current or last life cycle? Would they have the chance to have the same type of life although maybe fine tuned so that it was different to some degree? Or could an angel or a god decree that because Linda was who she was in this life, she'll have to take on a different type of life in the next, maybe one that's not so glamourous, whether personally or professionally. If our next life is made by what we did in this life, Linda should be more beautiful and successful than ever, unless her negatives (whatever they are) would be so bad they'd end up taking it away from her.
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Post by macbanshee on Feb 14, 2013 22:56:59 GMT -5
I think Linda is a very spiritual person, but between the judgmental experiences of going to Catholic School and the right-wing judgmental Evangelicals who have give Christianity a bad name, I think she has been turned off to that kind of theology. She certainly hangs out with some religious people and just spoke at a church in San Francisco.
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Post by the Scribe on Feb 15, 2013 11:04:12 GMT -5
I think Linda is a very spiritual person, but between the judgmental experiences of going to Catholic School and the right-wing judgmental Evangelicals who have give Christianity a bad name, I think she has been turned off to that kind of theology. She certainly hangs out with some religious people and just spoke at a church in San Francisco. She mentioned at that appearance that she was "agnostic." The term agnostic is somewhat non-committal can't make my mind up however Gnosticism is so very interesting which leads me to speculate as to her conversations with George Lucas on religion. Both were fans of Joseph Campbell who actually filmed his Power of Myth at George's home with Linda in attendance. Imagine my surprise on the last episode to see Joseph lecturing to a small group of people and then the camera focuses on Linda Ronstadt! Couldn't believe my eyes but once I put 2 + 2 together it made sense. Interestingly, she chose the subject title for her recent appearance in SF "The Power of Music." Maybe she is on to something and could come up with a "series" of her own. It would be a lasting and momentous legacy if she did. She should work with George to develop that and then be the narrator.
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Post by sliderocker on Feb 15, 2013 17:33:31 GMT -5
She mentioned at that appearance that she was "agnostic."
Actually, at that appearance, she said, I am not a complete agnostic. She didn't qualify it one way or the other as to whether she leans toward being an atheist or has a belief in a god, although if she does, I think it would be one that is not the Christian variety.
The term agnostic is somewhat non-committal can't make my mind up however
Exactly, and I thought Linda left herself some room to manuever on the issue.
Gnosticism is so very interesting which leads me to speculate as to her conversations with George Lucas on religion. Both were fans of Joseph Campbell who actually filmed his Power of Myth at George's home with Linda in attendance. Imagine my surprise on the last episode to see Joseph lecturing to a small group of people and then the camera focuses on Linda Ronstadt! Couldn't believe my eyes but once I put 2 + 2 together it made sense.
Gnosticism was something I was interested in, to see if it could mesh with deism, but I haven't had the time to search for books or articles to read or programs to watch on the subject. I've never heard of Joseph Campbell although his Power of Myth sounds like it could be interesting, although he also sounds like he would have a problem with all beliefs that encapsulate a spiritual belief, which would, I think, include gnosticism. Power of Myth also sounds like it could also apply to our political structure and also to the various urban legends in which people repeat unverified stories or exaggerate or take comments out of context to support their beliefs.
Interestingly, she chose the subject title for her recent appearance in SF "The Power of Music." Maybe she is on to something and could come up with a "series" of her own. It would be a lasting and momentous legacy if she did. She should work with George to develop that and then be the narrator.
I've sort of wondered what Linda might do once she finishes writing her autobiography, if she is still writing her book! She might not want to do much of anything beyond sitting back and enjoying herself in retirement. With her health issues that we've been discussing, I wonder if she's given any thought to possibly making some public service announcements for the Hashimoto's disease and the diabetes? Until reading that she suffered from the Hashimoto's disease, I never knew the disease existed. Never heard the first thing about it. There's quite a few public service commercials for diabetes yet I'm surprised celebrities haven't been tapped to drive home the point that diabetes affects people from all walks of life, celebrities included. It's a dangerous disease if left untreated, and there's no telling how many people have it but don't know it because they don't see a doctor. As far as I know, there's no PSAs for asthma although the drug companies tout their drugs for treating the ailment, but maybe there should be PSAs for asthma because I have heard of people dying from an asthma attack. That's something that shouldn't happen, which it doesn't on a widespread basis, but it happens here and there. And again, it's something that shouldn't happen.
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Post by the Scribe on Feb 15, 2013 19:05:25 GMT -5
Here you go:
In the opening scene they walk into the house on Skywalker Ranch where Linda may have been living at the time? Or at least spending lots of time there for sure. Pretty cool.
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Post by the Scribe on Sept 26, 2013 15:15:47 GMT -5
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Post by musicaamator on Sept 26, 2013 15:30:47 GMT -5
^^^I'm sorry but I had to laugh out loud on the line about each dating famous men in the first article there--Linda with Lucas was not the funny part, but the one about whom Selena dated was. Poor Selena...
(Flame me all you want on this post, but I cannot stop laughing about that one.)
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Post by Robert Morse on Sept 26, 2013 19:23:25 GMT -5
If I had to guess I would say Linda may be more pantheistic than anything, kind of like Einstein was. My arguement with Einstein would be that past life evidence is so abundant and undeniable. Doing the right thing would be a great religion in itself and I am always surprised by people who are surprised that non-believers are capable of being good people. One only need to look at the history of the two or three major religions to see what a crock they are feeding people that easily buy into it. I'm a deist, which I guess is the same or almost the same as pantheism, yet I also believe in reincarnation. The belief in reincarnation doesn't preclude the existence of God (or Gods and Goddesses) as I don't know what force could be holding the universe together or even put it there in the first place. When it comes to religious - Christian - people believing that non-believers are capable of being good people, I don't think that's the exact take they have. It's the belief that if you don't believe like they believe, you're going to end up in hell for your non-belief. You can be a good soul allthrough your life, from birth to death, but if you don't acknowledge Jesus as your savior, you go to hell. My counterpoint to that is if true,we all stand before God in heaven on some far off judgement day, how will the Christian fanatic react when God lets a non-believer into heaven? Are they going to march up to God, incensed, that God has let in an undesirable and demand that person's removal? Would they froth at the mouth if they were one of the ones who spoke venomous hatred for Linda because of her political beliefs, and she's allowed to be closer to God than they are? And what if she's given charge over them? (Wait a minute, would that be hell?)My counterpoint to a Christian person is always that it's not God threatening to send me to hell for what I believe, but that Christian person. And, as I always tell them, they don't get a say as to who does and who doesn't go to heaven or to hell. God can just as easily admit a non-believer into heaven just as easily as he can send a Christian superfanatic to hell. The God they purport to believe in is the one who gets to make the call, yet way too many seem to believe they will get a say. Hopefully, they won't be disppointed if it's not what they hoped for or they have to reincarnate as cave dwellers on some supercold little dinky planet in the Alpha Centauri system. It is never a wise move to make broad generalizations about a group of people - in this case Christians. Being Catholic I find it offensive. Iam Catholic yet firmly believe you have the right to believe in who ever or what ever you want. That is your choice and not for me to say. However, this post does nothing but bash Christians - while bashing is the very thing you appear to be ranting about.
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Post by Robert Morse on Sept 26, 2013 19:29:00 GMT -5
I would have to see the nudist quote to believe it. My first thought was, if she did in fact say such a thing, it would have been in relation to the intense heat in Tucson during the summer months. I would bet money on this quote not being real. Prove it by giving a link to it. There is very little I have not read when it comes to articles and interviews, and I have never read anything like that. She came from a very catholic family and coming from one myself I know the shame that comes with that religion. Show me the money...I am from Missouri, the show me state. Funny, as a Catholic, I never found it a religion of shame. Catholic grammar school and high school and again never any shame. Perhaps the shame is more related to family than religion-but that is only a guess on my part. I have always found it perplexing when adults bash religion based on something that happened in grammar school as opposed to coming at it from an adult perspective.
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