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Post by erik on May 1, 2019 13:36:30 GMT -5
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Post by the Scribe on May 1, 2019 14:45:41 GMT -5
Anything more than that would probably not come with Linda's approval or blessings but it must be a nice feeling to have such a work of art about one's career which was a work of art itself.
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Post by germancanadian on May 1, 2019 15:18:34 GMT -5
I hope it will air at the Toronto International Film Festival in September. She has a really good fan base in Canada.
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 1, 2019 16:38:24 GMT -5
If the film is in another festival will it have been released to nationwide markets before then or just in NYC area where it was in first festival? My impression of film festivals are for films prior to release or ones presented to maybe later get a release or small budget films that wouldn't be shown in traditional cinemas in regular release. eddiejinnj
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Post by erik on May 1, 2019 18:08:08 GMT -5
Quote by eddieinnj:
The nanosecond that somebody gets an answer to that one, I'm sure it'll get posted.
And believe me, I would like to see this film released to theaters, even if it isn't as many as, say, AVENGERS: ENDGAME.
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Post by the Scribe on May 1, 2019 18:56:24 GMT -5
Quote by eddieinnj: The nanosecond that somebody gets an answer to that one, I'm sure it'll get posted. And believe me, I would like to see this film released to theaters, even if it isn't as many as, say, AVENGERS: ENDGAME. I would settle for our Valley Art Theatre which at one time was the only theatre in Tempe owned by the Harkins family but now is mostly their outlet for indie films, art films, etc. They kept and remodeled it because the owner of the Harkins chain was born in the theater itself while Dad and mom ran it. I can only imagine that night. The last movie I went to was An Inconvenient Truth and then Al Gore brought the movie to life with his roadshow which I also saw. It was a very long time ago. This would be a big event for me if it happens. Could be emotional though.
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Post by erik on May 1, 2019 19:14:27 GMT -5
Quote by ronstadtfanaz:
There is a similar theater just five miles from where I live: the Laemmle Theater on Colorado Boulevard in Pasadena, where they show indie films, art films, foreign films, and documentaries. That would be good enough for me.
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Post by the Scribe on May 1, 2019 20:36:11 GMT -5
I would expect Rob Epstein to release a trailer of the documentary. He has them on most of his other works. Hopefully soon. Be on the lookout.
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Post by musedeva on May 2, 2019 14:30:09 GMT -5
OMGawdess!! missed the last 4 pages!! so happy it filmed
"Maddeningly Shallow Look"
that's a Song Baby!!hahaah
Okay....everyone collectively breath, exhale and visualize: NETFLIX this early SUMMER!!!
ya know they're cuttin' deals right now!!
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Post by germancanadian on May 2, 2019 17:36:03 GMT -5
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Post by erik on May 2, 2019 21:56:23 GMT -5
Quote by germancanadian:
I saw that review earlier today...and I'm still trying to size up what's being said about both the documentary film itself and Linda as well. There are things in it that kind of bother me, to be perfectly honest.
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Post by Mused on May 3, 2019 1:08:26 GMT -5
you mean re: being bothered...the commentary about "sold out white audiences"...hahah I thought it was a great play on words..yeah
that was about as racist a commentary I've seen in quite a while...but its factual, eh?
Quote by germancanadian: I saw that review earlier today...and I'm still trying to size up what's being said about both the documentary film itself and Linda as well. There are things in it that kind of bother me, to be perfectly honest.
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Post by Mused~ on May 3, 2019 1:16:51 GMT -5
THIS is the Best one!! Just Loverly Thanks for the link Erik...Very Good Information. I hope we don't have to wait until CNN airs the documentary.
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Post by Mused on May 3, 2019 1:25:42 GMT -5
Sheryl!!!
Def the best to Cover MamaCitah!!! Yes!
Crack Band and TIGHT harmonies......Sheryl is sooooo Cool luv those shoes!!!
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Post by Richard W on May 3, 2019 8:12:15 GMT -5
That Remezcla review was irritating. I can't stand reviewers that focus more on what's NOT in a film, what the film DOESN'T say, rather than evaluating what's right in front of their faces. I can't stand it when they drag all their luggage into the theater and expect the film to carry all of it. It seems as if this reviewer would only be satisfied if Linda's musical story (emphasis on musical) were embedded in a 10-hour documentary on the history and sociological struggles and cultural sufferings of Mexican-Americans in the 20th century. That Linda herself (evidently and as far as we have been told) did not suffer overt discrimination or repression because of her ethnic roots is some sort of strike against her. That she apparently suffered more discrimination for being female in a male-dominated industry just isn't suffering enough for this reviewer. Nope. Linda in this movie has to represent all Mexican-Americans and tell all of their stories, not just her own.
Also, I'm getting sick of race and identity politics constantly being thrown up all over everything. For one thing, "Mexican" is not a race, it's an ethnicity. For another, the whole concept of "race" is about as meaningful as phrenology. Maybe "racist" is just easier to say than "ethnicist". And of course the reviewer couldn't resist bringing up the fact that it was two white men with their inherent "white gaze" who [took the time, money, and effort] made this film, completely straight-gazing (if you will) over the fact that both filmmakers are gay, a fact that is hardly relevant to the film but that I point out as an example of the reviewer's identity-politics hypocrisy.
Crap! I've got to stop.
I don't know why this particular review set me off this morning. Perhaps I need more coffee and some Linda tune-age to perk up me spirits. (But no canciones since I'm a white guy/Anglo and I couldn't possibly properly appreciate an art form and a culture that is not my own. Maybe I should just stick with Pat Boone.)
I guess I've just had my fill this week (and the one before, and the one before that, and the one...) of identity politics and tribalism. Tribalism. It will be the death of us all, if climate change doesn't get us first.
Crap! Music, now!, before I...
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Post by erik on May 3, 2019 9:22:48 GMT -5
Quote by mused:
I don't know if that's what the reviewer Candace Frederick had in mind, but to me she did come off as implying that the film should have been much more about Linda as something of a political animal because of her ethnic heritage, rather than her status as an iconic singer whose diversity just happened to spring in part because of that heritage. And whether Ms. Frederick intended it or not, I felt she kind of sold both Linda and Linda's Mexican-American heritage short with the way she framed the review.
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Post by the Scribe on May 3, 2019 16:51:44 GMT -5
Quote by mused: I don't know if that's what the reviewer Candace Frederick had in mind, but to me she did come off as implying that the film should have been much more about Linda as something of a political animal because of her ethnic heritage, rather than her status as an iconic singer whose diversity just happened to spring in part because of that heritage. And whether Ms. Frederick intended it or not, I felt she kind of sold both Linda and Linda's Mexican-American heritage short with the way she framed the review. I think the fact that Linda took on the ethno-racism activist mantle late in her career lends itself to scrutiny by that community. It was an evolving passion for her. Years ago when Canciones de mi Padre was released most of the reviews that came later when Amazon began to sell it were very good but several complained the music was not authentic and we would be better served buying records from the original Mexican artists of those songs. Of course, I had to chime in and explain to these people that it was Linda Ronstadt, Linda Ronstadt's voice that brought all of us gringos to the Mariachi party. It was the voice that introduced us to it and the voice that made us appreciate that genre as an art. We would never have come to it any other way except for Linda Ronstadt. She brought us into that culture and likewise she took it out of the flea markets and turned it into a vehicle for Latin-Mexican American pride especially among the Hispanic youth who needed that boost in our less than appreciative society. This film may not be all it can be but it will spawn more as it is a great jumping off point and introduction to who Linda Ronstadt is and why she was such a force. A humble one at that.
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Post by Richard W on May 3, 2019 17:52:54 GMT -5
I agree with everything you say, Ronstadtfanaz. What irritated me about that review was that the reviewer held the film to task for not delving into the socio-political aspects of Linda's life, when the purpose of the movie was to document her musical/artistic life.
Your post reminds me of when Canciones came out and the Chicago Tribune reviewer accused Linda of cultural appropriation, obviously ignorant of her ethnicity, something that Linda herself never tried to hide, even if she didn't declare it from the rooftops.
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Post by erik on May 3, 2019 18:17:47 GMT -5
Quote by ronstadtfanaz:
I think she delved into talking about her ethnic background as early as 1971 in interviews with Circus and Rolling Stone, so it's not like it wasn't there long before (but then, people don't actually read anymore). The other example of Linda showing her Mexican-American roots was when she recorded "Lo Siento Mi Vida" on Hasten Down The Wind, a song she wrote with her father and with her long-time sideman Kenny Edwards. Again, another case of people not paying attention. But then, as 1987 is coming to a close, she releases Canciones De Mi Padre, and certain critics acted as if she pistol-whipped them with her heritage.
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Post by the Scribe on May 3, 2019 18:26:16 GMT -5
Quote by ronstadtfanaz: I think she delved into talking about her ethnic background as early as 1971 in interviews with Circus and Rolling Stone, so it's not like it wasn't there long before (but then, people don't actually read anymore). The other example of Linda showing her Mexican-American roots was when she recorded "Lo Siento Mi Vida" on Hasten Down The Wind, a song she wrote with her father and with her long-time sideman Kenny Edwards. Again, another case of people not paying attention. But then, as 1987 is coming to a close, she releases Canciones De Mi Padre, and certain critics acted as if she pistol-whipped them with her heritage. I have a Hit Parader from 1970 where Linda states her goal as a musical artist was to become the greatest Mexican singer. She goes on to mention Lola Beltran as her major influence. I have used that article to refute people's opinion that Linda was just trying to make $$$ on the Mexican bandwagon. It was mostly Chicanos that were saying that. That article usually shut them up and shut their argument down. It was Linda's destiny to become a cultural icon and bridge for the Mexican and American community. She has brought us together in a special way.
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Post by Richard W on May 3, 2019 18:30:10 GMT -5
She is proud of her Mexican roots and culture, and always has been. But she also, as an American, had other interests, casting a wider net beyond heritage.
That she didn't focus exclusively on Mexican music is an issue for some people. As if ethnicity defines—or should define—all, and is the only legitimate direction you're allowed to explore.
Linda's brilliance and originality are that, wide as that net was, she always caught what she was after. All of the styles and genres she sang in were authentic to her art.
Linda may not agree with that next to last sentence, but she would with the last one. She's said so herself, albeit in different words.
Viva Linda!
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Post by erik on May 3, 2019 18:39:17 GMT -5
Quote by ronstadtfanaz:
I guess when you are a Mexican-American woman with fairly White skin like Linda is, you fool a lot of people in the Chicano community.
I've mentioned this any number of times, but I always wished Linda could have recorded an album that combined her country, rock, and Mexican influences, in terms of some songs in English and Spanish, and instrumentation from each style. Strangely enough, an album along those lines came out just fourteen months ago, in March 2018...and oddly enough, it was a gal with Mexican lineage (which, like Linda, was inherited from her father) from Toronto named Lindi Ortega, entitled Liberty.
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Post by erik on May 4, 2019 22:14:05 GMT -5
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Post by musedeva on May 5, 2019 18:17:33 GMT -5
Well...in the End of It All...whatever that turns out to be....esp. now that the Pentagon and Navy are admitting the UFO's all about....in the end when we discover that the Aliens from multiple star systems have been "mixing it up" with our DNA for Eon's and that we're all a earthpool hybrid from various galaxies...maybe then it'll make sense to stop the separatist song
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Post by the Scribe on May 5, 2019 18:38:35 GMT -5
Well...in the End of It All...whatever that turns out to be....esp. now that the Pentagon and Navy are admitting the UFO's all about....in the end when we discover that the Aliens from multiple star systems have been "mixing it up" with our DNA for Eon's and that we're all a earthpool hybrid from various galaxies...maybe then it'll make sense to stop the separatist song
Trio - After The Gold Rush (Official Music Video)
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Post by musedeva on May 7, 2019 18:50:03 GMT -5
Lets start placin' BETS!!! Netflix OR Amazon Prime? ? [HBO Now?]
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Post by erik on May 7, 2019 22:03:18 GMT -5
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 8, 2019 6:56:37 GMT -5
I just can't stand the plethora of spelling mistakes in articles, etc. The author writes "now" instead of "know" early on in the review. I am really not being picky as I find it almost rampant. It just worries me for future generations. eddiejinnj
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Post by erik on May 8, 2019 8:34:25 GMT -5
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The unfortunate truth is that most news organizations seem to no longer bother with editing or spell-checking of any kind anymore, which leads to some very sloppy writing (though the misspelling of Linda's last name, with a 'D' between 'Ron' and 'stadt', is the most egregious example [IMHO]).
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Post by eddiejinnj on May 8, 2019 10:57:39 GMT -5
You got that rt!!!!! eddiejinnj
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