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Post by Dianna on Dec 7, 2012 14:12:06 GMT -5
Whether I am going to Hell or not I am in training here in Arizona. I heard that by the end of this century average daily temps will be 7 degrees above todays average temps. ugh! fix your a/c lol
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Post by the Scribe on Dec 7, 2012 14:29:07 GMT -5
Whether I am going to Hell or not I am in training here in Arizona. I heard that by the end of this century average daily temps will be 7 degrees above todays average temps. ugh! fix your a/c lol The cremation process is half-complete. (have you seen our governor?)
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Post by sliderocker on Dec 7, 2012 14:48:49 GMT -5
well ms eadie makes a lot of sense. As far as hell, who knows? but there has to be a need for that too or the horror of the serious repercussions.... I better not do that or else I'm going to hell.. we all have free will, you know.. some people have that auto inner sense of doing the right thing.. but were not perfect.. and some don't.. I'll admit to having shades of grey and thinking.. I better do the right thing because I don't want to go to hell. lol With the Christians, you don't believe in Jesus or God, there's a place for you in hell with all the other rotten souls of humanity. The muirderers, rapists, adulterers, child molesters, drug users, prostitutes, Hitler and despotic government figures who murdered their people on a grand scale. But, never a word about Republican politicians who con Christians with lies about what they believe. Curiously, I recall reading a debate within a debate last year going on between various Christian people as to whether the lowest of humanity could get into heaven if they said they believed in Jesus. Some Christians were of the opinion that even though the criminal might be a believer, he or she will still end up in an extremely hot place after death because of what they did in life. So, according to them, belief in Jesus is not enough to save you from hell. Others were of the opinion that if you believe in Jesus and even if you were the worst kind of sinner, you are saved because of that belief, no matter what. I can't see anyone but the most hardened of all criminals going to hell, if there is a hell. My argument is that when someone talks about someone who they think is going to hell, such as someone who used drugs or became a prostitute, they - and we - don't know what there was in their lives which led them to that kind of lifestyle. And we don't know how they feel about it, whether they revel in being what they are or whether they loathe themselves because of it. Neither the Christian person or we are qualified to sit in judgement of that person. If there is a judgement day, what they did will be judged at that point by God or a life review board or by themselves or what have you. It's not going to be up to us to decide the fate of others as we'll have our own fates to worry about. And the Christians sometime forgets that applies to them as well.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 7, 2012 15:15:17 GMT -5
well slide somebody who abuses drugs. alcohol ect IMO, is only hurting themselves or possibly family if they have any or others drinking when driving.. I don't see a vice as hell worthy.. lol it must be very difficult for that individual to over come..taking meds or drugs to escape or feel better just doesn't seem evil in my opinion.. just hurts your physical body in the end. You're right about prostitution and walking in that person's shoes and people will look down upon that.. we all do.. not something to achieve or be proud of.. but maybe like eadie describes, they were hand picked or wanted that role for some other reason or maybe they just like sex a lot. lol Sometimes I really dislike talking to born again people because like rob or you mentioned on this thread.. everything is so final and hard headed.. and no thought provoking, its like that old story about the ham -mother cut the edges off , and nobody knew why.. she just did it because her mother did it...to fit the then small pan.. lol. I ask questions and if it doesn't make sense I investigate further..
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Post by the Scribe on Dec 7, 2012 16:26:03 GMT -5
You're right about prostitution and walking in that person's shoes and people will look down upon that.. we all do.. not something to achieve or be proud of..
I don't look down upon prostitution. Seems to me if you have to do it you may as well get paid for it if you can. Do we really need vice squads? really? I rarely will vote for more money for police if I know there is a vice squad on a force because it is a waste of money that should be used for real crimes and criminality. Let's throw a guy in jail that steals a loaf of bread worth $1 but let a Wall Street Banker steal millions and get away with it. Social services welfare is miniscule compared to Corporate welfare yet a segment of our society with big mouths and racist hearts seem to control things. I do however believe that societal crimes should be punished here and not left for some "tribunal" in the sky or it becomes self-perpetuating.
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Post by sliderocker on Dec 7, 2012 16:51:30 GMT -5
well slide somebody who abuses drugs. alcohol ect IMO, is only hurting themselves or possibly family if they have any or others drinking when driving.. I don't see a vice as hell worthy.. lol it must be very difficult for that individual to over come..taking meds or drugs to escape or feel better just doesn't seem evil in my opinion.. just hurts your physical body in the end. You're right about prostitution and walking in that person's shoes and people will look down upon that.. we all do.. not something to achieve or be proud of.. but maybe like eadie describes, they were hand picked or wanted that role for some other reason or maybe they just like sex a lot. lol Sometimes I really dislike talking to born again people because like rob or you mentioned on this thread.. everything is so final and hard headed.. and no thought provoking, its like that old story about the ham -mother cut the edges off , and nobody knew why.. she just did it because her mother did it...to fit the then small pan.. lol. I ask questions and if it doesn't make sense I investigate further.. I agree with you about people who drug or drink hurting themselves and their family, but even on some of that, there is a reason why some are doing it. It's difficult to unerstand the people who take street drugs (as opposed to drugs obtained from their doctors because of a medical issue) who want to take them simply because they want to get high. You have to wonder if they even think about the high being worth the cost because of what it can to do to you in the long run, like ruin your liver and kidneys or ultimately taking your life. Excessive drinking because you like the buzz it gives you likewise can lead to health problems or an early grave. It's hard to feel for them. But, the people who take drugs or drink to excess because there's something inside their soul that's hurting them are the ones I feel sorry for, knowing there's nothing anyone can really do to help them as long as they keep whatever's bothering them to themselves. But, about people judging othrs, I think we will all walk in another person's shoes during our incarnations, if we haven't already. I think that's the only way you can know what it was like for that person. As a believer in reincarnation and parallel worlds I also think it's possible we could be living other lives right now, walking in those same shoes. In one of those parallel worlds, we could be the wealthiest person - money wise - on the planet, or maybe the poorest (but rich in spirit) or living the worst life one could live. I just hope I wouldn't be a judgemental Christian type on one of those worlds, though I probably am .
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Post by Dianna on Dec 7, 2012 17:20:23 GMT -5
You're right about prostitution and walking in that person's shoes and people will look down upon that.. we all do.. not something to achieve or be proud of.. I don't look down upon prostitution. Seems to me if you have to do it you may as well get paid for it if you can. Do we really need vice squads? really? I rarely will vote for more money for police if I know there is a vice squad on a force because it is a waste of money that should be used for real crimes and criminality. Let's throw a guy in jail that steals a loaf of bread worth $1 but let a Wall Street Banker steal millions and get away with it. Social services welfare is miniscule compared to Corporate welfare yet a segment of our society with big mouths and racist hearts seem to control things. I do however believe that societal crimes should be punished here and not left for some "tribunal" in the sky or it becomes self-perpetuating. well, for me, I could never do that w/o a relationship/emotion or love attached.. not moral or judging others, just my own feeling and self respect..I'd probably collect cans first. infact I know I would but I don't need a lot or can do w/o to survive..Others might have a detachment towards sex and intimacy or other reasons and that's fine for them. Rob, I don't have a lot of compassion for greed either.. and i wonder about those souls eadie talks about.. people that have so much material stuff and power who do nothing to earn it or abuse it. You can't really be happy always wanting more and more stuff.
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Post by the Scribe on Dec 7, 2012 18:11:28 GMT -5
Rob, I don't have a lot of compassion for greed either.. and i wonder about those souls eadie talks about.. people that have so much material stuff and power who do nothing to earn it or abuse it. You can't really be happy always wanting more and more stuff.
I don't understand people with great wealth not giving back to humanity or animality on a grand scale. I think we are ultimately judged not on how much or how little money or wealth we have but what we did with what he had while we are here. And that would go for our spare time as well. If you had great financial wealth that you may or may not have shared but you gave the wealth of your time towards doing good things that would go a long way in my book as well. I don't think hoarding money is a good thing. You can't take it with you. Make it work in the best manner possible. Be a light.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 7, 2012 18:27:25 GMT -5
I don't either. I think many do, people who are chosen or pick the roles as a celebrity/artist for instance, if you notice, do a lot of good be it inspiration or to bring forth an awareness, they are there for a reason.. others may do it on a smaller level. I don't have to a lot of money to give lol.. and my choice and compassion is more with animals.. everyone has their role, some an advocate for the enviornment.. people or animals.. We adopted another puppy a lab (and btw) she loves my other 2 and vice versa. I think the problem is like eadie has mentioned in an interview I YT'd.. is the ego.. people make it all about them..
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Post by the Scribe on Dec 21, 2012 20:45:10 GMT -5
yes, there is an Afterlife TV:Proof Of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon's Journey Into The Afterlife with Dr. Eben Alexander III
"Proof Of Heaven is Dr. Eben Alexander III's #1 New York Times Bestselling book about his near-death experience. A Harvard and Duke associated academic neurosurgeon, Dr. Eben Alexander's brain was suddenly attacked by a rare illness. In fact, it was the part of the brain that essentially makes us human, thereby making his near-death experience much more compelling to scientists and skeptics because his brain was incapable of imagination or hallucination. For seven days he lay in a coma while journeying into the afterlife. Guided by a spiritual being yet having no memory of his physical (human) existence, Eben learned about life after death, our purpose for being here, the power of prayer, insights about why evil is allowed to exist in our world, and so much more. I'm honored to share this in-depth interview with one of the most likable and eloquent scientists of our time." ~ Bob Olson, Afterlife TV Heaven Is Real: A Doctor’s Experience With the AfterlifeOct 8, 2012 1:00 AM EDT When a neurosurgeon found himself in a coma, he experienced things he never thought possible—a journey to the afterlife. (Page 1 of 4) As a neurosurgeon, I did not believe in the phenomenon of near-death experiences. I grew up in a scientific world, the son of a neurosurgeon. I followed my father’s path and became an academic neurosurgeon, teaching at Harvard Medical School and other universities. I understand what happens to the brain when people are near death, and I had always believed there were good scientific explanations for the heavenly out-of-body journeys described by those who narrowly escaped death. The brain is an astonishingly sophisticated but extremely delicate mechanism. Reduce the amount of oxygen it receives by the smallest amount and it will react. It was no big surprise that people who had undergone severe trauma would return from their experiences with strange stories. But that didn’t mean they had journeyed anywhere real. Although I considered myself a faithful Christian, I was so more in name than in actual belief. I didn’t begrudge those who wanted to believe that Jesus was more than simply a good man who had suffered at the hands of the world. I sympathized deeply with those who wanted to believe that there was a God somewhere out there who loved us unconditionally. In fact, I envied such people the security that those beliefs no doubt provided. But as a scientist, I simply knew better than to believe them myself. In the fall of 2008, however, after seven days in a coma during which the human part of my brain, the neocortex, was inactivated, I experienced something so profound that it gave me a scientific reason to believe in consciousness after death. I know how pronouncements like mine sound to skeptics, so I will tell my story with the logic and language of the scientist I am. Very early one morning four years ago, I awoke with an extremely intense headache. Within hours, my entire cortex—the part of the brain that controls thought and emotion and that in essence makes us human—had shut down. Doctors at Lynchburg General Hospital in Virginia, a hospital where I myself worked as a neurosurgeon, determined that I had somehow contracted a very rare bacterial meningitis that mostly attacks newborns. E. coli bacteria had penetrated my cerebrospinal fluid and were eating my brain. When I entered the emergency room that morning, my chances of survival in anything beyond a vegetative state were already low. They soon sank to near nonexistent. For seven days I lay in a deep coma, my body unresponsive, my higher-order brain functions totally offline. Then, on the morning of my seventh day in the hospital, as my doctors weighed whether to discontinue treatment, my eyes popped open. more: www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/07/proof-of-heaven-a-doctor-s-experience-with-the-afterlife.html
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Post by Dianna on Dec 22, 2012 14:13:27 GMT -5
Rob, did you read his book? I might want to get the book. interesting about the sister he had not ever met or known. Also, many mention the "life review." as reliving experiences good and bad throughout our lives and how it affected others. I think many of us go through that in our daily lives, probably more 1 sided lol.. I know I have many times.
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Post by sliderocker on Dec 23, 2012 15:55:11 GMT -5
Rob, did you read his book? I might want to get the book. interesting about the sister he had not ever met or known. Also, many mention the "life review." as reliving experiences good and bad throughout our lives and how it affected others. I think many of us go through that in our daily lives, probably more 1 sided lol.. I know I have many times. I'm about a quarter of the way through my copy of the book, and his near-death experience I think is slightly different to what other people have reported. For instance, I can't recall others mentioning flying through the air, seeing others below him in villages doing things and with an angel who communicates through telepathy. He writes of being in a darkness and a perception of something or others being around him in that darkness, which was kind of scary. It's not a particularly big book, page wise, and the print makes it an easy read. I'm kind of surprised I haven't finished the book by now but guess that's from not having enough time off from work to do everything I'm trying to do on the two days I have off per week. Maybe it's because I'm older and my eyes can't read like they used to do? I used to be able to read a book with 250-400 pages in a single day. Now, I get by reading 100 pages if I'm lucky. Is the book worth one's time? I think so. The perspective is different, which to me lends a little more credibility because he doesn't appear to be someone with a super religious belief, trying to bend you to his religion or what his religion says. Of course, the skeptics are all over his book trying to disprove it and the super religious crowd likewise are saying he's wrong. One of the super religious even wrote a counterpoint book in an effort to rebut what he writes. I'm not sure any of the skeptics or super religious have even read the first page because both have that mindset that what they think or know about a subject is right and those who disagree with them are wrong. When it comes to either group, I'm skeptical of anything they have to say because of their attitude. Both want evidence but when it's given, it's rejected without any thought.
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Post by the Scribe on Dec 24, 2012 1:30:57 GMT -5
No, I haven't read the book yet. I will say that religion has nothing to do with anything relating to death and dying. It is a process we all will have to go through and we all end going back up to the place from where we started. That place is real, this place isn't.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 24, 2012 2:12:04 GMT -5
No, I haven't read the book yet. I will say that religion has nothing to do with anything relating to death and dying. It is a process we all will have to go through and we all end going back up to the place from where we started. That place is real, this place isn't. we won't know for sure until we arrive there (hopefully) I think with the way the world is, especially in these times, many people have given up on humanity, and that's fair IMO. So listening to other's NDE gives hope for how we should as humans be living our lives here on earth.. it's a nice dream.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 26, 2012 12:35:08 GMT -5
I had to take my puppy out early this am, went back to sleep with the tv news on.. I dreamt about this beautiful waterfal with pretty colors.. sounds like an out of body or NDE.... I was going over the fiscal cliff. lol.. don't ever fall asleep in front of the tv..
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Post by the Scribe on Dec 27, 2012 20:03:15 GMT -5
I had to take my puppy out early this am, went back to sleep with the tv news on.. I dreamt about this beautiful waterfal with pretty colors.. sounds like an out of body or NDE.... I was going over the fiscal cliff. lol.. don't ever fall asleep in front of the tv..
That is how Linda Ronstadt named a cat I had rescued around the holidays years ago. He was abandoned at a local desert park with his mouth sewn shut. I got to him just in time and needed a name for him which came to me as I dozed while watching the wonderful La Pastorela. Michael (Linda) appeared through the clouds above looking down on me and the kitten and yelled, "his name is Archie!" and so it was.
And speaking of dogs, I had an interesting discussion with old friends (all registered and raised Republicans) at Christmas dinner regarding the afterlife entwined with a Republican theme. Because of my animal rescue activities I lamented that God may not be a CAT which leaves me screwed because I mostly rescue cats (and some dogs) on a daily basis but mostly CATS. God (dog spelled backwards) would send me to Hell for such things. Therefore Hell would be filled with Republicans/Conservatives like THEM (where else could they go?) and ME. I have managed to crack their shells a bit over the years so there is hope in this crazy world.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 27, 2012 20:22:56 GMT -5
One question? Knowing your views, how on earth did you survive that meal? lol
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Post by the Scribe on Dec 27, 2012 22:05:51 GMT -5
One question? Knowing your views, how on earth did you survive that meal? lol Oh, I am very nice in person with little to no ranting. It is more give and take discussions and I always have my facts so they are open. Plus they like me and I like to educate them.
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Post by Dianna on Dec 28, 2012 2:55:39 GMT -5
I don't doubt you are a nice person.. Interesting thought of converting those with opposing views.. I don't have the patience nor does my approach.. I need to work on that. Getting back to strange dreams.. last night I a weird one.. I dreamt Albert Einstein (of all people???) had taken to me.. and he was trying to give me a gift, which I refused.. I remembered the dream later then tried to analyze it.. either I am refusing knowledge or having an open mind (as I described in the first part of this paragraph.. that or some crazy old man with weird hair has a late Christmas gift for me. ha..
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Post by the Scribe on Dec 28, 2012 13:22:55 GMT -5
Some minds are firmly closed and will never become open. Typically they are very far to the right and not worth the time to persuade as it will never happen. They choose what they believe even against the facts.
The Einstein dream is an interesting one and your evaluation of it may be correct. Maybe he was trying to give you a box of bagels? Do you have something against bagels or breads?
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Post by Dianna on Dec 30, 2012 17:19:40 GMT -5
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Post by the Scribe on Dec 31, 2012 12:33:09 GMT -5
Very interesting story from a very sweet woman. I feel fortunate that I never had to physically die to learn and understand life and death, why we are here, etc. Our existence here is the actual dream of sorts and to get back home we have to leave this body behind and "sort of" wake up on the other side. Not everyone has a good time of it though. It is better to understand it while here and not fumble around once your body becomes useless and "uninhabitable." Make sure that when that door of light opens up you go through it or you may have to stay behind for awhile until you figure out what to do. And religion has nothing to do with any of it. It is all a natural process. Thanks for introducing me to that website: nhne-pulse.org/aboutnhne-page/There is a lot of things there I am interested in.
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Post by Dianna on Jan 7, 2013 16:48:44 GMT -5
re-religion. What I've observed is sort of a mixed bag with these nde's, some people see a spirit guide as the woman kelli described or something else and many others see or have visions of Christ. With a lot of these experiences it's hard to say what is truth or what the mind might create. I've read some where the person was high as kite- tripped out and had an experience..enough said. lol I have my own beliefs which have been confirmed to me in several ways.. weird things happen or even a knowing that pushes you to do something you wou;d not normally do.
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 9, 2013 10:52:53 GMT -5
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 9, 2013 12:16:28 GMT -5
Oprah Interviews Betty Eadie & Elizabeth Taylor About Their NDEs. Eadie dies 20 years to the day after ronstadtfanaz was born. Hers is the most compelling story because she seems to remember more about the process at any length.
some other interesting youtubes:
Hinduism says :Our soul is covered with subtle body and finally covered by gross body. Hindu scriptures provided detail description about soul and type of body.All observations can be found in more detail what researchers are saying, in vedic literature. We all should take up VEDIC science seriously without falling prey to mullas.
Actually knowledge is delivered depending upon audience.In Islam the level of understanding was very low.So knowledge revealed to them was that much which they can digest.On the contrary, Sanatan dharma consisted more elevated and God conscious people.So they were the right people to receive complete knowledge. We can say Quran and Bible as pocket dictionaries and vedic literature as Chambers dictionary. Again I am not comparing but teachings of other religion are found in vedas in detail
Dr. Moody's Life After Life
In Life After Life Raymond Moody investigates case studies of people who experienced clinical death and were subsequently revived. This classic exploration of life after death started a revolution in popular attitudes about the afterlife and established Dr. Moody as the world's leading authority in the field of near-death experiences. The extraordinary stories presented here provide evidence that there is life after physical death, as Moody recounts the testimonies of those who have been to the other side and back -- all bearing striking similarities of an overwhelming positive nature. These moving and inspiring accounts give us a glimpse of the peace and unconditional love that await us all.
Saved By The Light
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 9, 2013 14:22:19 GMT -5
I keep going back to Betty Eadie as her story is compelling and she seems to have the most detail which rings true because of other things I have read about or experienced myself. Ironically, many years ago and soon after reading Betty's book I met a guy who was good friends with Betty and he confirmed for me that she was not making any of her story up as he knew her to be an honest person full of integrity. Talk about synchronicity!
Around that time a close personal friend's mother was dying of cancer. (Wisconsin) I was living in Arizona. It was time to bring in Hospice. Typically they send one person over to assist but in this case several hospice volunteers wanted to attend at a time. Word quickly spread throughout the local hospice community that my friends mom wasn't just dying. She was having visions and she was speaking out as to what she was seeing and holding conversations with the spirits that began to parade before her. I would say she was half-in and half-out of her new world and this world all the while narrating what was going on that those here could not see. It was in these conversations with my friend that I realized these are many of the things Betty Eadie had spoken of in her book. Her mom's late night narrative of her appearance before the "Council of Elders" was something that Betty spoke about and that was the thing that clinched it for me about Betty words being true. She also spoke to old family members whom my friend had no recollection of until after some research. She spoke to them in present tense however she would say things like "oh look, there is great uncle Teddy" or "aunt Luisa" and then commence to talking with them as if they were there, here and now. She would also answer questions or clarify at times to those present in this state of existence on Earth.
So that is how I came to believe in Betty's story, Betty's experience. It is the type of thing we each have to come to on our own as no amount of preaching can be as powerful as our own experiences.
I was open to all of these things as a child who experienced nightly visitations, ghostly apparations and bizarre happenings I did not understand. I was very quiet about these things and did not share with my family because I thought there was something wrong with me. Violent shaking of my body, strange noises that would come down from our attic going room to room in the hallway outside my bedroom until it reached my room (lastly) shaking all the furniture and then me. (no wonder I found solace in Linda Ronstadt and her music...ha...I needed some comfort and I found it there...at least) But enough about me.
I think Betty's story is most compelling and puts a lot of the pieces together even though it is from a Christian or Catholic viewpoint of which I am neither. Betty explains that while we will all have similar core experiences after death our personal experience will still be colored by our most recent beliefs. I had wished she would have been an agnostic or an atheist as that would have been most interesting in itself.
The basic message is that we, as individuals do not die, we move on leaving behind our experiences and lessons that helped us grow and enrich our essence. We will most likely meet up with our loved ones again at some point and may or may not repeat a life here on Earth. It appears to depend on many factors.
If you have an interest in this subject then Betty's story is the one to explore. She has since elaborated on her experiences with other books and her website, numerous television and several radio plus personal appearances. One of my favorites, Art Bell even interviewed Betty. (interesting that it was on 9/9/99)
Betty's website:www.embracedbythelight.com/Joe EadieWomen Speak Out Series of 5 videosKathy Lee Crosby interview Spanish tvSeattle Inands Art Bell Radio Interview
oddly it is in pieces on different sites by different people. one ends abruptly and you have to go to the second to pick it up. she is interviewed by the master, Art Bell. Just listening to him is worth it, nevermind Betty who begins in hour 2. they don't make this easy.
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 9, 2013 17:18:49 GMT -5
I was reminded from the Art Bell interview of a story Betty told. After she died and was in the presence of God or a master she was told to look downward and say what she saw. He was showing her a man that appeared to be a bum or homeless person. She said I see a bum. He then lifted this bums physical body to expose his soul body which was so bright that it was blinding showing that this bum was a highly evolved soul that lived the difficult life of a bum who was to live for ONE moment that was about to happen where a lawyer was to pass by him, their eyes would meet and that chance meeting would change the lawyers life forever in that he would then do great works for the benefit of all. That so called bum was then to die after that as his purpose was completed. Not even the bum outwardly knew of his purpose there because his memory, like ours is taken away when we enter this lifetime.
I forgot about that story and often think how terrible I am for being so critical of Republicans and Conservatives that seem to make life so miserable for so many with their selfishness, greed and racism. (sigh) I also have to wonder why those who have great financial wealth in this life do little to help others in every way possible. I suppose even wealth can be a trap to overcome.
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Post by erik on Jan 9, 2013 18:26:09 GMT -5
Quote by ronstadtfanaz:
I think it's because having all that money can cause someone to think they live in an alternate reality not like the one the rest of us poor schmucks have to live in. But then there are people like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates who actually do live in the real world and who give generously without coming even remotely close to threatening their own security.
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Post by Dianna on Jan 9, 2013 18:30:49 GMT -5
That is a wonderful story Rob. It does make a lot of sense. There are also many rich people who seem to do a lot to help others, they might have a gift whish allows them great wealth but with that comes responsibility. For me and as little I can do to help, the causes that surround me are often (even w/o wanting to) involves animals. I collect vintage kitchen bowls and stuff like pyrex and hazel atlas. (you'll be happy about this lol) This last bid I won is going towards a non profit kitty rescue ..100 percent, which is cool, the bowls were 100.00. Makes me happy!!
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 9, 2013 19:52:49 GMT -5
You may have just saved a cat that was to be euthanized. That cat may get adopted or adopt someone itself (knowing cats) that could change someone's life, lower their blood pressure, give them some needed unconditional love, etc.
You are right Erik, some wealthy people do good things but are they doing it to be good or is it just a tax write off or a sincerely good thing? or pushing a nefarious agenda like eugenics?
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